Hey Dave, who is the fiscal responsible party?
Ray O'Hara
click the link and then tell me who is responsible
The Repubs grew federal spending more, 12.1% [R]to 9.9% [D]
the national debt more 36.4%[R] to 4.2% [D]
but they increased the DNP less, 10.7% [R]to 12.6%[D].
So who is the party of responsiblity.
David E. Powell
If you are talking the 1980s tax revenue taken in went through the
roof after Reagan's tax cuts.
Of course Tip O'Neill and the Democrat controlled Congress forced a
lot of increases in welfare spending through. Had that not happened
the budget would have been balanced with quite a surplus left over.
Welfare Reform finally happened in the 1990s when the GOP won a
majority in Congress. President Bill Clinton signed it.
I am not sure which Dave this was directed at. Is Frogwatch named
Dave? If so my bad.
Jack Linthicum
wrote:
Froggie is a Dave. The Republicans are the nays here:
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 111th Congress - 2nd Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the
direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Amendment (Reid Amdt. No. 3305 )
Vote Number: 12 Vote Date: January 28, 2010, 11:41 AM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Amendment Agreed to
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 3305 to S.Amdt. 3299 to H.J.Res.
45 (No short title on file)
Statement of Purpose: To reimpose statutory pay-as-you-go.
Vote Counts: YEAs 60
NAYs 40
Ray O'Hara
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yes Frog is Dave.
Reagan ruined the economy anf G.H.W.Bush with his tax cuts did a lot to
mitigate the Reagan disaster.
some folks made out under the "trickle down" Reaganomincs but it wasn't the
working people not the United States as a whole.
the same folks made out that always make out under Repubs, the
super-wealthy.
We have class warfare in this country, ands being waged from the top down.
the top 10% get 70% of the wealth.
dott.Piergiorgio
> Reagan ruined the economy anf G.H.W.Bush with his tax cuts did a lot to
> mitigate the Reagan disaster.
> some folks made out under the "trickle down" Reaganomincs but it wasn't the
> working people not the United States as a whole.
> the same folks made out that always make out under Repubs, the
> super-wealthy.
> We have class warfare in this country, ands being waged from the top down.
well, Marxism is a direct descendent of the Enlightment era, and if one
try replacing "aristocrats" with "capitalists" isn't far from the
current situation...
Best regards from Italy,
Dott. Piergiorgio.
Frogwatch
Ray:
I have just spent th entire day motoring into nearly 20 kt winds and
am too beat to think. Fortunately, I found a marina before it got
dark cuz I ussually just go too far and then have to anchor.
So, I am too tired to comprehend.
Andrew Swallow
Upper class twits succeeded in being absentee landlords to country
estates. Unfortunately for the communists firms need hands on
managers that are competent.
Andrew Swallow
dott.Piergiorgio
>> well, Marxism is a direct descendent of the Enlightment era, and if
>> one try replacing "aristocrats" with "capitalists" isn't far from the
>> current situation...
> Upper class twits succeeded in being absentee landlords to country
> estates. Unfortunately for the communists firms need hands on
> managers that are competent.
trouble here, "managers" and "competent" together are rather oxymoron....
...even on the capitalist side.
Dott. Piergiorgio.
dott.Piergiorgio
Upper class twits succeeded in being absentee landlords to country
> :> estates. Unfortunately for the communists firms need hands on
> :> managers that are competent.
> :
> :trouble here, "managers" and "competent" together are rather oxymoron....
> :
> :...even on the capitalist side.
>
> You've never actually worked for a living, have you?
I can write hours on the Weberian analysis of protestant work ethic, but
I prefer to not waste time here, so I limit to point to you that if I
don't work, effectively I give one more workplace to people whose
actually needs an income....
It's a thing called "solidarity", but I suspect you can't grasp the
meaning in your calvinist and darwinian vision of the world.....
Dott. Piergiorgio M. d'Errico.
Richard Casady
Andrew Swallow
Andrew Swallow
Ray O'Hara
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why is people getting a fair deal Marxism?
that's the claim that the rightwing alwauys makes.
fair is not communist.
the fact is we are practicing capitalism as if we are determinred to prove
Karl Marx right.
dott.Piergiorgio
> the fact is we are practicing capitalism as if we are determinred to prove
> Karl Marx right.
It's what I call "imbalance of ideology", whose isn't dissimiliar to an
imbalance of power, the absence of a counterbalancing force led the
opposite ideology to grow disproportionally like a cancer (and ending so).
this can be read somewhat thru another German philosopher's eyes, Hegel,
whose thesis-antithesis-synthesis (IMRHO) sum up perfectly the current
situation, and the sore need of the third element of this triad. whose
is (IMO) sorely needed.
if one simply do the mean between the unchecked capitalism and royal
socialism [1] the result encompass a spectrum from keynesian new deals
to socialdemocratic welfare states, but I think that the things aren't
not so simple as seems. because they depends also on a really functional
electoral parlamentary democracy, whose is becaming more influenced from
the unchecked capitalism.
This influence is becoming more or more evident, and here lies one of
the main dangers, because this is evolving in an increasing mistrust of
the common people in parliamentary proceedings; the danger are obvious,
people start to look for alternatives, and where the mean sociocultural
level is comparatively low (or the people are really in dire situation)
led to every conceivable type of evils.
At least here (EU) the situation is well recognized and here lies the
rationale of the tendencies toward a certain proven political system,
but this is not the main point.
The main point, is that there's looming rather interestig Great Years,
as I mentioned often...