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Jack Linthicum

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Jun 30, 2008, 10:45:00 AM6/30/08
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In this one hour special, Air and Naval forces team up to test weapons
with a live fire attack on a modern day destroyer.

Rating: TVPG

What isn't mentioned, perhaps anytime in the program, is that the
ships are Canadian. I see the frigates Ottawa 341 and Regina 334. Lots
of playing with Sea Sparrow surface to air and Sea Witch gatling. Big
moment is the use of a Sea Sparrow as a surface to surface missile. A
little google suggests the date is 2006 and the target is the HMCS
Huron.

Jack Linthicum

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Jun 30, 2008, 11:06:42 AM6/30/08
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On Jun 30, 10:45 am, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

I might add if I wanted to attack Victoria or Vancouver I would do so
in a 30-year old unarmed and unmanned ship. Finally sunk by some of
its former crew on the Algonquin.

BF Lake

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Jun 30, 2008, 12:09:31 PM6/30/08
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"Jack Linthicum" <jackli...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I might add if I wanted to attack Victoria or Vancouver I would do so
> in a 30-year old unarmed and unmanned ship.

Too late! The "tall ships", most of them from Washington State seems like,
have captured Victoria over the weekend and are sailing today for Tacoma
with their booty. :)

Regards,
Barry


Jack Linthicum

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Jun 30, 2008, 12:26:50 PM6/30/08
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On Jun 30, 12:09 pm, "BF Lake" <non...@nospam.com> wrote:
> "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

Bad idea, the Tacomans are noted for ability to remove itinerant
seapersons from their booty. Most of my family are residents and you
will find that booty on e-bay by the weekend.

BF Lake

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Jun 30, 2008, 2:47:18 PM6/30/08
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"Jack Linthicum" <jackli...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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You have been warned. Remember, it's "two by sea" but "one" if they get
ashore and onto I-5 and try that way. (although they should be easy to
capture trapped on the I-5 most of the time)

Regards,
Barry


Jack Linthicum

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Jun 30, 2008, 2:54:41 PM6/30/08
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On Jun 30, 2:47 pm, "BF Lake" <non...@nospam.com> wrote:
> "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> news:a8fcfdd6-2ce2-408f...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jun 30, 12:09 pm, "BF Lake" <non...@nospam.com> wrote:
> > > "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>
> > > news:712c0b16-2cb3-4f6b-b848-
>
> > > > I might add if I wanted to attack Victoria or Vancouver I would do so
> > > > in a 30-year old unarmed and unmanned ship.
>
> > > Too late! The "tall ships", most of them from Washington State seems
> like,
> > > have captured Victoria over the weekend and are sailing today for Tacoma
> > > with their booty. :)
>
> > > Regards,
> > > Barry
>
> > Bad idea, the Tacomans are noted for ability to remove itinerant
> > seapersons from their booty. Most of my family are residents and you
> > will find that booty on e-bay by the weekend.
>
> You have been warned. Remember, it's "two by sea" but "one" if they get
> ashore and onto I-5 and try that way. (although they should be easy to
> capture trapped on the I-5 most of the time)
>
> Regards,
> Barry

Not many places to tie up and reach I-5, then you are stuck in the
usual 25 hour a day traffic jam.

tankfixer

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Jul 3, 2008, 3:12:37 AM7/3/08
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In article <49327f93-1e9d-467f-9a86-
78c3b8...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, jackli...@earthlink.net
says...

>
> Not many places to tie up and reach I-5, then you are stuck in the
> usual 25 hour a day traffic jam.

Portland Oregon on the Willimatte or Vancouver Washington on the
Columbia..
Easy walking distance from both berth's.

--

"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
- Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"

Jack Linthicum

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Jul 3, 2008, 6:00:40 AM7/3/08
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On Jul 3, 3:12 am, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:
> In article <49327f93-1e9d-467f-9a86-
> 78c3b8ba7...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, jacklinthi...@earthlink.net

> says...
>
>
>
> > Not many places to tie up and reach I-5, then you are stuck in the
> > usual 25 hour a day traffic jam.
>
> Portland Oregon on the Willimatte or Vancouver Washington on the
> Columbia..
> Easy walking distance from both berth's.
>
> --
>
> "Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
> - Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"

That is about 140 miles from Tacoma, the city of destination in this
discussion. Besides, walking to elevated highways is not recommended.

tankfixer

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Jul 3, 2008, 12:10:32 PM7/3/08
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In article <e197e3b7-3497-470e-b620-57bf4e97fe53
@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, jackli...@earthlink.net says...

> On Jul 3, 3:12 am, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:
> > In article <49327f93-1e9d-467f-9a86-
> > 78c3b8ba7...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, jacklinthi...@earthlink.net
> > says...
> >
> >
> >
> > > Not many places to tie up and reach I-5, then you are stuck in the
> > > usual 25 hour a day traffic jam.
> >
> > Portland Oregon on the Willimatte or Vancouver Washington on the
> > Columbia..
> > Easy walking distance from both berth's.
> >

>

> That is about 140 miles from Tacoma, the city of destination in this
> discussion. Besides, walking to elevated highways is not recommended.

They berthed on the Willimatte when they passed through earlier this
year....


Walking to is reasonabbly safe.
Walking ON is not recomended..

Jack Linthicum

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Jul 3, 2008, 1:39:55 PM7/3/08
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On Jul 3, 12:10 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:
> In article <e197e3b7-3497-470e-b620-57bf4e97fe53
> @x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, jacklinthi...@earthlink.net says...

Willamette, I spend a lot of time teaching wine merchants to say Will-
am-ette instead of Will-a-mette

Mark Borgerson

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Jul 3, 2008, 2:19:01 PM7/3/08
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In article <adacf48b-b6e9-4a76-bb9a-32fd9e52b755
@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, jackli...@earthlink.net says...
Keep up the good work. The morning paper warned of a possible
oversupply of Pinot Noir grapes here in the Willamette valley--
so the wineries will be working hard to make sure there is
plenty of good Pinot Noir to send back east.

Totally OT for SMN, but I found Willamette Valley Pinots in
Emeril's in Las Vegas and at a small restaurant near the
North Rim of the Grand Canyon last week. It looks like
our wine merchants are working hard to get Pinot Noir
to new markets.

Mark Borgerson

Jack Linthicum

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Jul 3, 2008, 2:37:47 PM7/3/08
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On Jul 3, 2:19 pm, Mark Borgerson <mborger...@comcast.net> wrote:
> In article <adacf48b-b6e9-4a76-bb9a-32fd9e52b755
> @d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, jacklinthi...@earthlink.net says...

They sell very well here in Central Florida, Total, a big time chain
of stores, has a whole wall of Oregon PNs. My problem is finding Pinot
Gris, still a bargain. We did Oregon for two weeks last September,
Coast for a few days but mostly in Hillsboro doing wineries and food,
Powells, me olde college, Reed, and the MacMenamins where we could
find them.

One gimmick the California wineries are practicing is taking their
surplus and bottling it under a one-off label. Local wine writer
mentioned that in London most of the California wines he had never
heard of.

tankfixer

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Jul 3, 2008, 2:45:05 PM7/3/08
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In article <adacf48b-b6e9-4a76-bb9a-32fd9e52b755
@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, jackli...@earthlink.net says...

> On Jul 3, 12:10 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:
> > In article <e197e3b7-3497-470e-b620-57bf4e97fe53
> > @x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, jacklinthi...@earthlink.net says...
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 3, 3:12 am, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:
> > > > In article <49327f93-1e9d-467f-9a86-
> > > > 78c3b8ba7...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, jacklinthi...@earthlink.net
> > > > says...
> >
> > > > > Not many places to tie up and reach I-5, then you are stuck in the
> > > > > usual 25 hour a day traffic jam.
> >
> > > > Portland Oregon on the Willimatte or Vancouver Washington on the
> > > > Columbia..
> > > > Easy walking distance from both berth's.
> >
> > > That is about 140 miles from Tacoma, the city of destination in this
> > > discussion. Besides, walking to elevated highways is not recommended.
> >
> > They berthed on the Willimatte when they passed through earlier this
> > year....
> >
> > Walking to is reasonabbly safe.
> > Walking ON is not recomended..
> >

>

> Willamette, I spend a lot of time teaching wine merchants to say Will-
> am-ette instead of Will-a-mette

Speeling flams are lame Jack.

tankfixer

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Jul 3, 2008, 2:47:58 PM7/3/08
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In article <4181b54b-d7c0-44b4-9c1c-2274d257e884
@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, jackli...@earthlink.net says...

Where you can find them !?
My god man we can't swing an empty bottle but to hit a Macmenamins !
They even turned my old grade school into a bed and
breakfast/resturant...
I'm glad you enjoyed the trip out. September is about the best month to
visit, still warm and the winter rains are a month off still...

>
> One gimmick the California wineries are practicing is taking their
> surplus and bottling it under a one-off label. Local wine writer
> mentioned that in London most of the California wines he had never
> heard of.
>

--

Jack Linthicum

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Jul 3, 2008, 3:17:03 PM7/3/08
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On Jul 3, 2:47 pm, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:
> In article <4181b54b-d7c0-44b4-9c1c-2274d257e884
> @l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, jacklinthi...@earthlink.net says...

Ah, the old State Home for the Mildly Uninterested?

If you haven't lived there finding one of the MacMenamin
establishments can be a matter of luck. We were looking for lunch in
McMinnville, apparently standing opposite the hotel they run there.
Went someplace else.

Rich Johnson

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Jul 3, 2008, 8:13:13 PM7/3/08
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On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:37:47 -0700, Jack Linthicum wrote:


> One gimmick the California wineries are practicing is taking their
> surplus and bottling it under a one-off label. Local wine writer
> mentioned that in London most of the California wines he had never heard
> of.

I can't believe I'm doing this

Our local liquor store is carring an aussie thing called Billy Rock
Chardonnay in a can. Is it possible that it's actually drinkable ?

--
Rich
Enfield NS
Canada

Jack Linthicum

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Jul 4, 2008, 6:17:17 AM7/4/08
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IIRC the wine in a can thing is an invention of the airlines. I was at
a winery tasting room in Mendocino County and they had an extensive
display of wines in a can. Better than trying to corkscrew a 747 full
of connoisseurs individual selections.

Andrew Chaplin

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Jul 4, 2008, 11:39:19 AM7/4/08
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"Jack Linthicum" <jackli...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Jul 3, 8:13 pm, Rich Johnson <rwh.john...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:37:47 -0700, Jack Linthicum wrote:
>> > One gimmick the California wineries are practicing is taking their
>> > surplus and bottling it under a one-off label. Local wine writer
>> > mentioned that in London most of the California wines he had never heard
>> > of.
>>
>> I can't believe I'm doing this
>>
>> Our local liquor store is carring an aussie thing called Billy Rock
>> Chardonnay in a can. Is it possible that it's actually drinkable ?
>
>
> IIRC the wine in a can thing is an invention of the airlines. I was at
> a winery tasting room in Mendocino County and they had an extensive
> display of wines in a can. Better than trying to corkscrew a 747 full
> of connoisseurs individual selections.

At the AMF(L) artillery conference at Larkhill in 1986, the Packway Mess
issued us conferenciers an "Italian boxed lunch" for a trip to the ranges. Its
"Italian" character came from the fact it included a 250 ml can of quite
drinkable red plonk, in no way degraded by its container -- a nice touch, if
you ask me.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)


Paul J. Adam

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Jul 5, 2008, 5:49:28 AM7/5/08
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In message <1uCdneNwKIS52fPV...@giganews.com>, Andrew
Chaplin <ab.ch...@yourfinger.rogers.com> writes

>At the AMF(L) artillery conference at Larkhill in 1986, the Packway Mess
>issued us conferenciers an "Italian boxed lunch" for a trip to the ranges. Its
>"Italian" character came from the fact it included a 250 ml can of quite
>drinkable red plonk, in no way degraded by its container -- a nice touch, if
>you ask me.

There was a *reason* we preferred to visit the Italians at their base
near Nasiriyah, rather than have them come to us :)

--
The nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its
warriors, will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done
by fools.
-Thucydides


paul<dot>j<dot>adam[at]googlemail{dot}.com

dott.Piergiorgio

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Jul 5, 2008, 12:49:50 PM7/5/08
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Paul J. Adam ha scritto:

> There was a *reason* we preferred to visit the Italians at their base
> near Nasiriyah, rather than have them come to us :)

Mh.... (undecided on the tone of the reply)

beh.... At least you can explain the smiley at the end ?

Best regards from ITALY,
Dott. Piergiorgio.

(uncertain if being PO'd or not; associating the former Nassirya base
with good food is at least bad taste....)

Paul J. Adam

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In message <OCNbk.11288$f86....@tornado.fastwebnet.it>,
dott.Piergiorgio <dott.Pierg...@KAIGUN.fastwebnet.it> writes

>Paul J. Adam ha scritto:
>
>> There was a *reason* we preferred to visit the Italians at their base
>>near Nasiriyah, rather than have them come to us :)
>
>Mh.... (undecided on the tone of the reply)
>
>beh.... At least you can explain the smiley at the end ?

If we went to them, we got wine with lunch. If they came to us, we all
had "orange" or "purple" or "green" (cold water with citric acid,
artificial flavour and dye added in three varieties - hard to be sure
what it was meant to taste of, but it was safe to drink and kept you
hydrated). So, given a choice, we preferred to visit the Italians.

This was back in 2005 when the Italians were looking after Dhi Qar
province and also provided the deputy commander of MND(SE), so we had a
fair few of them around.

Rich Johnson

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Jul 12, 2008, 4:31:08 PM7/12/08
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SWMBO picked up a few cans of the Billy Rock Chardonnay and I tried it.
Reasonably drinkable, for which I have a fairly simple definition:
Drinkable means that it doesn't taste like they didn't wash thier feet
when they stomped the grapes

Jack Linthicum

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Jul 12, 2008, 4:45:37 PM7/12/08
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There is also "the health or agriculture inspector approved this
batch" drinkable.

Rich Johnson

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Jul 12, 2008, 10:37:47 PM7/12/08
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The last time I tried a local wine that was the proper description. I've
heard that the product has improved but I haven't been in a hurry to try
again

tankfixer

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Jul 13, 2008, 1:37:05 AM7/13/08
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In article <tWdbk.1831$1o6.1548@edtnps83>, rwh.j...@gmail.com says...

Of course not.
But if you need to service the wheel bearings on your car it works
wonders as a solvent..

Jack Linthicum

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On Jul 13, 1:37 am, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:
> In article <tWdbk.1831$1o6.1548@edtnps83>, rwh.john...@gmail.com says...

Too much sugar

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