For the Gun Goofballs...a tribute to Charleton Heston
Dr. James West, Ph.D.
April 6, 2008
Charlton Heston passed away at 84
April 8th, 2008
Steven Gonzales, High school football player shot to death at party
April 7th, 2008
3-Year-Old Kills Herself With Parent's Gun
April 7th, 2008
3-Year-Old Kills Himself With Sheriff's Sergeant's Gun
April 7th, 2008
Man Opens Fire on Child's Birthday Party; 5-year-old girl, 48-year-old woman dead
April 7th, 2008
Man Shoots, Kills Girlfriend as She Leaves Church
April 7th, 2008
Teenager Ends Gas Station Argument With a Gun
April 7th, 2008
Woman Shot to Death in VFW Parking Lot While Waiting to Pick Up Friend
April 7th, 2008
Student Killed in Crossfire at College Party
April 7th, 2008
Dylan Dennie; Middle school student killed with grandmother's gun
April 7th, 2008
Chinese Food Deliveryman Shot in Mouth
April 7th, 2008
Police Officer Shot and Killed in Line of Duty
April 7th, 2008
Gun Violence Takes Another Life in Flint, Michigan
April 7th, 2008
Son Kills Mom, Dad
April 7th, 2008
Man in Car With Girlfriend Shot in Head, Killed
April 7th, 2008
15-Year-Old Boy Killed in Drive-By Shooting
April 7th, 2008
"I come to see my daddy and my brother to enjoy myself, and somebody killed my daddy and my brother. Oh man."
Tiger
Off topic, insulting for calling those who own firarms "goofballs." Then
followed by a set of random crime events that could have been achieved
by a knife, bat or a gallon of unleaded & a match.
xwkf...@nospam.net
Read the thread son. People who want to carry guns about in public places
-- are gun goofballs. And every cop in the country will tell you that
too.
Wayne
<xwkf...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:JPLKj.6118$Oa2.5118@trndny06...
> In <47FB8636...@hotmail.com>, on 04/08/2008
> at 10:50 AM, Tiger <Lana_...@hotmail.com> said:
>
>
>
>>Dr. James West, Ph.D. wrote:
>>>
>>> April 6, 2008
>>> Charlton Heston passed away at 84
>>>
>>> April 8th, 2008
>>> Steven Gonzales, High school football player shot to death at party
>>>
>>> April 7th, 2008
>>> "I come to see my daddy and my brother to enjoy myself, and somebody
>>> killed my daddy and my brother. Oh man."
>>>
>>> http://michaelmoore.com/
>
>>Off topic, insulting for calling those who own firarms "goofballs." Then
>>followed by a set of random crime events that could have been achieved
>>by a knife, bat or a gallon of unleaded & a match.
>
> Read the thread son. People who want to carry guns about in public places
> -- are gun goofballs. And every cop in the country will tell you that
> too.
Don't have a CCW, do you?
Felix D.
"Tiger" <Lana_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:47FB8636...@hotmail.com...
Red Cloud
Stupid moron. Accidentally shooting can't be replaced by knife
slashing or match fire on gasoline.
Jeffrey Hamilton
Really ?
Quote:> by a knife, bat or a gallon of unleaded & a match
That would indicate a level of physical involvement way beyond the simple
step of pulling a trigger which is so, so easy.
I think your example falls a little short of making your intended point.
Care to try again ?
cheers....Jeff
>
Dr. James West, Ph.D.
>
April 8th, 2008
Dad Killed by Stray Bullet While Playing With Sons in Yard
April 8th, 2008
Man Orders Burger, is Killed
April 8th, 2008
Man Shot in Head Outside Karaoke Bar
April 8th, 2008
Man Kills Neighbor With Gun
April 8th, 2008
High School Football Player Shot to Death at Party
April 8th, 2008
Teen Sentenced For 15-Year-Old's Slaying, 18 years to life
beausabre
wrote:
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj227/REN237/KennedyCar1.jpg
While we're at it, lets ban motorcycles which much more dangerous than
autos and general aviation, which is much more dangerous than
commercial air travel and while we're at it, no one needs a car that
can do more than 100 mph, so lets ban sports and other high
performance cars and....well, you get the idea
I''ve spent a lifetime around firearms, never shot anyone, never
wanted to shoot anyone, never known anyone else who did either.
SNIP
Ever figure out how to write your own posts instead of spamming the
Net?
Roger Conroy
"Dr. James West, Ph.D." <na...@nobull.com> wrote in message
news:HbGdneig1f5jpGbanZ2dnUVZ_quhnZ2d@toastnet...
Mr. Heston has a totally irrefutable alibi for the times/dates of all the
incidents you mention - so what is your point?
Just because there are SOME assholes who cannot be trusted to use firearms
responsibly is no reason to mistrust ALL firearms users/owners.
Jeffrey Hamilton
"Roger Conroy" <rogerconr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ftkjg4$6dl$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
type * parade and festive event _after_ a _ murderous_ gun-event_ at a local
high school ?
Such nice people, those NRA type's, so community minded.
Such good timing for a *festive, joyous, opportunity to celebrate* the
death, of those youngster's.
So, the original question stands, Who pried his *dead fingers off* ?
'Nuff said.
cheers....Jeff
David Phillips
<bbere...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>Wasn't *Bowling For Columbine* all about the NRA showing up for a *Shriners
>type * parade and festive event _after_ a _ murderous_ gun-event_ at a local
>high school ?
>Such nice people, those NRA type's, so community minded.
>Such good timing for a *festive, joyous, opportunity to celebrate* the
>death, of those youngster's.
The NRA had its convention in Denver that year, and cancelled
everything except for the meetings that are required by its
incorporation charter (whatever its called) under the laws of New
York State.
They could not move its convention given the limited time between the
murders and the convention.
Benny Hill
"Jeffrey Hamilton" <bbere...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
news:i_uLj.51200$612....@read1.cgocable.net...
>
> >
> Wasn't *Bowling For Columbine* all about the NRA showing up for a *Shriners
> type * parade and festive event _after_ a _ murderous_ gun-event_ at a local
> high school ?
> Such nice people, those NRA type's, so community minded.
> Such good timing for a *festive, joyous, opportunity to celebrate* the
> death, of those youngster's.
>
> So, the original question stands, Who pried his *dead fingers off* ?
>
> 'Nuff said.
>
> cheers....Jeff
Another dunbass canucky that has "no" clue what he is
talking about.
Kent Finnell
"Jeffrey Hamilton" <bbere...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
news:i_uLj.51200$612....@read1.cgocable.net...
>
So, Jeffery, do you always enjoy spreading lies? There was
NO Shriners type parade or festive event. Quite the
contrary. The annual meeting at Denver had been planned
several years in advance. Thousands of NRA members had
purchased tickets and arranged for transportation and
lodging.
The NRA is incorporated in New York and the state requires
that the NRA have an annual business meeting with board
members and others. REQUIRED, not suggested. The usual
annual meeting includes demonstrations and displays of new
products and entertainment (comedians, singers,
commentators). Everything but the actual business meeting
and serious, substantive speeches were canceled. There was
no parade, no festive events. Michael Moore lies, and by
extention, so do you.
>
> So, the original question stands, Who pried his *dead
> fingers off* ?
It sure as hell wasn't you.
>
> 'Nuff said.
No, you've lied ... er, said ... more than enough.
>
--
I am the NRA and I vote!
Kent Finnell
From the Music City, USA
Dr. James West, Ph.D.
>
> Michael Moore lies,
Son, you are one of the "Wackos" Mr. Moore is talking about:
How to Deal with the Lies and the Lying Liars When They Lie
about "Bowling for Columbine"
by Michael Moore
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/
i.e. you are a lying piece of shit gun goofball...
;-)
Kent Finnell
> Kent Finnell wrote:
>>
>> Michael Moore lies,
>
> Son, you are one of the "Wackos" Mr. Moore is talking
> about:
To be named a "wacko" by Michael Moore is an honor.
>
> How to Deal with the Lies and the Lying Liars When They
> Lie
> about "Bowling for Columbine"
> by Michael Moore
> http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/>
Let me guess ... by telling more lies?
>
> i.e. you are a lying piece of shit gun goofball...
>
> ;-)
The smiley doesn't make you any less of a liar. At least I
use my own name, not stealing the name of the Robert Conrad
character in the "Wild, Wild West" with title enhancements.
You and Moore are liars.
--
"No law ever written has stopped any robber, rapist or
killer,
like cold blue steel in the hands of their last intended
victim."
-W. Emerson Wright.
------
Tiger
Read it already. Thousands cary everyday, Without any issues. These are
a series of random criminal acts and accidents that could have still
been done by other means or tools. Sorry your off base. Carry a firearm
alot, & not a goofball by any means. I Could list just as many stories
of guns saving lives by the law abiding.
Tiger
Kid pulls trigger on gun and dies. Kid plays with fire and burns house
and dies. Kid falls in swimming pool and can't swim and dies. So the
result is the same. None is any worse & is replaceable as a cause of death.
Tiger
or even a Ryder truck. Just a galllon of gas & some matches killed 87
people in NYC in 1987 at the Happy land Social Club. Far cheaper than
any gun, available anywhere, require little skill to use. The person
commited to taking life cares little for the method.
Tiger
UH,Not even close....... The NRA's National Yearly convention was in
Denver a few weeks after the events in Columbine. Not a parade nor in
anyway mocking the tragic event. The NRA has a Mebership of millions and
represent a wide crossection of America's best & brightest. They have
done more for the community in education, suproting wildlife, &
suporting law enforcement than any other group half it's size since 1871.
Jeffrey Hamilton
"Benny Hill" <B_H...@usa.net> wrote in message
news:oNvLj.114661$yE1.41541@attbi_s21...
was Bowling for Columbine refering too, regarding the NRA.
Jeffrey Hamilton
"Kent Finnell" <kent...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:_HxLj.30871$dT.2...@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
I'm commenting on a fucking film idiot !
A film that won many awards, I might add.
If the film is a lie, then sue him and prove your point. Failing to do that
then address what Michael Moore and Bowling for Columbine was refering to.
Jeffrey Hamilton
Except for the proliferation of _SO_ MANY_ GUNS_ and _SO_EASY_TO_GET_. Not
the same at all!
Jeffrey Hamilton
....and Timothy McVeigh beat that record all to hell with a little gasoline
and fertilizer. And your point is ?
Kent Finnell
>
> "Kent Finnell" <kent...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:_HxLj.30871$dT.2...@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>>
>>>>
Yeah, the fucking film idiot is Michael Moore (punctuation,
like words, has meaning, Jeffy).
> A film that won many awards, I might add.
BFD. The Academy voted politics, not facts. The most of
the awards were for documentaries and "Bowling for
Columbine" was not a documentary, it was propaganda.
> If the film is a lie, then sue him and prove your point.
I have no grounds to sue him. Like my lawyer brother-in-law
once told me, "You can sue for anything, but winning and
collecting are entirely different."
> Failing to do that then address what Michael Moore and
> Bowling for Columbine was refering to.
I saw the film on a cable outlet, in its entirety, with only
advertisement interruptions. The film was a clever editing
job attacking America in general and the Second Amendment,
the NRA, and Charlton Heston specifically. Your hero,
Michael Moore, is a fat slob with feet of clay. A great
film editor, but still a fat, lying slob, or deleting the l,
SOB.
SaPeIsMa
A bunch of misinformation and outright lies to gull the ignorati such as
you.
And clearly Moore succeeded in your case
SaPeIsMa
More kids drown in buckets and bathtubs than are shot
About 5 times more
And it wouldn't happen "Except for the proliferation of _SO_ MANY_ BUCKETS_
and _BATHTUBS_SO_EASY_TO_GET_. Not the same at all! "
Now do you see how stupid and ignorant you are ?
SaPeIsMa
Something that you still keep missing
Why is that ?
SaPeIsMa
Just because one bunch of ignorati believe the lies and misinformation in
the film does NOT make it true for all that
And just because same bunch of ignorati decide to award it a questionable
"prize" changes nothing either
The lies and disinformation in "Bowling for Columbine" have been proven a
long time ago
Too bad you're still not up to speed
Start here
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%2B%22Bowling+for+Columbine%22+%2Blie
gjan...@nospam.net
When are you right wingers going the get the message that statments made
on usenet by other nuts are not proof of anything!
In <h4mdnRTaeKJ3F2LanZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@cpinternet>, on 04/11/2008
Benny Hill
If you're a Mike Moore fan,, what more do I need to say. he's a loon
and so are you.
>
Benny Hill
Post Scriptem: you could also actually read something like this:
http://www.findoutmoore.com/
Frank
>
>
Let us know when Michael Moore kills himself with his fork ;)
Jeffrey Hamilton
"SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8q2dnRfOu_AhFGLanZ2dnUVZ_oGjnZ2d@cpinternet...
Who the fuck is talking about bathtubs and buckets?
Are bathtubs and buckets designed to fire a projectile to kill something ?
Ya fuckin' moron.
Jeffrey Hamilton
"SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
If they were lies the NRA would have his ass for grass.
Clearly they haven't, so it would appear and I quote you:
"A bunch of misinformation and outright lies to gull the ignorati such as
you."
You bought into the NRA mindset and bullshite, you drank the koolaid.
Loser.
Jeffrey Hamilton
"SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
Sue him in court and prove your point.
Jeffrey Hamilton
and _so_are_you_!
Jeffrey Hamilton
I could, but why should I read something about Michael Moore, written by the
people he attacks ?
Kent Finnell
"You want the truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"
Moore lies, often subtly, but he lies. Sue him? It cannot
be done by me or any of the other posters here because we
would have no standing in court. The NRA cannot because it
is, by nature of being incorporated, an artificial person
and a public person at that. Unless it can prove slander or
liable causing serious harm, it cannot sue. That's the
reason public figures like politicians, movie stars, sports
figures, rappers and the like cannot sue every time some
tells a lie or half-truth about them. Carol Burnett was one
of the few public figures to successfully sue a tabloid that
said that she was an alcoholic. It was an out and out lie
and especially harmful to Burnett because her mother was an
alcoholic and Burnett was very much offended. And she had
damned good lawyers.
What are you going to do when the Supreme Court finds for
Heller in D.C. vs.. Heller? Cry a lot? Wet your pants?
Hide under your bed?
--
"No law ever written has stopped any robber, rapist or
killer,
like cold blue steel in the hands of their last intended
victim."
-W. Emerson Wright.
------
BigRedWingsFan
<gjan...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:taNLj.6$nT1.5@trndny09...
>
>
> When are you left-tards going the get the message that statments made
> on usenet by other nuts such as me are not proof of anything!
You've finally resorted to talking to yourself, Edie?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v715/rayskwire/Random/Too_Much_Computer.gif
Scout
I acknowledge your desire to hold a double standard.....and then you wonder
why people treat you as an idiot.
gjan...@nospam.net
You changed my text -- like the right wing kook IDIOT LIFER that you are.
-->Here is what I wrote asshole:
"When are you right wingers going the get the message that statements made
on usenet by other nuts are not proof of anything!"
Thus, you altering my statement is libel. It what you right wing cowards
resort to when you have nothing worth saying -- but lack the self-control
to just shut up.
In your case, your bi-polar and its about time from you burst out like an
idiot for the next several days.
In <66a32cF...@mid.individual.net>, on 04/11/2008
BigRedWingsFan
<gjan...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:mBSLj.34$gT3.10@trndny02...
>
>
>
> You changed my text -- like the right wing kook IDIOT LIFER that you are.
> -->Here is what I wrote asshole:
>
> on usenet by other nuts such as me are not proof of anything!"
>
> resort to when you have nothing worth saying -- but lack the self-control
> to just shut up.
>
> In your case, your bi-polar and its about time from you burst out like an
> idiot for the next several days.
English isn't your native language is it?
Now, FOAD, little Eddie Letourneau Jr.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v715/rayskwire/Random/Too_Much_Computer.gif
Benny Hill
<gjan...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:mBSLj.34$gT3.10@trndny02...
>
>
>
> You changed my text -- like the right wing kook IDIOT LIFER that you are.
> -->Here is what I wrote asshole:
>
> "When are you right wingers going the get the message that statements made
> on usenet by other nuts are not proof of anything!"
>
> Thus, you altering my statement is libel. It what you right wing cowards
> resort to when you have nothing worth saying -- but lack the self-control
> to just shut up.
Libel is a legal term dim bulb. It usually involves having to prove
damage(s). Or are you a lawyer too??? This is a semi public forum
in which anybody can say anything they choose.
>
> In your case, your bi-polar and its about time from you burst out like an
> idiot for the next several days.
>
BWA, HA, BWA, HA,,,, there I had a good cry, Im over it now.
Benny Hill
>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Another dunbass canucky that has "no" clue what he is
> >> > talking about.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Another typical "gun crazy" *whatever* reponding ad hominen. OK genius,
> >> what
> >> was Bowling for Columbine refering too, regarding the NRA.
> >>
> >
> > If you're a Mike Moore fan,, what more do I need to say. he's a
> > loon
> > and so are you.
> >>
> >
> And if your a right-wing NRA retard, what more can I say ? They are retards
> and _so_are_you_!
>
Well dumb shit I dont belong to the NRA, I give my money to
the Second Amendment Foundation. So who is the retard here???
Hint,,,,,,,,, it aint me. Your just another lib ideologue, with
feelings of superiority, and utopia.
Benny Hill
>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Another dunbass canucky that has "no" clue what he is
> >> > talking about.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Another typical "gun crazy" *whatever* reponding ad hominen. OK genius,
> >> what
> >> was Bowling for Columbine refering too, regarding the NRA.
> > \
> >
> > Post Scriptem: you could also actually read something like this:
> > http://www.findoutmoore.com/
> >
>
> I could, but why should I read something about Michael Moore, written by the
> people he attacks ?
Because you might (oh no) "learn" something, but go ahead and
remain stupid. It wasnt written by people he "attacks"
SaPeIsMa
Because Moore needs to resort to lies and half-truths and innuendo to attack
them
Whereas the people who respond to the attack don't have a need to do
that
A fool only looks at one side of an argument
The intelligent person looks at both BEFORE making a decision
SaPeIsMa
You would first have to open your eyes to EVEN HAVE ANY chance of that
statement being close to the truth
> Who the fuck is talking about bathtubs and buckets?
I am
Too bad that even the obvious has trouble penetrating your skull
> Are bathtubs and buckets designed to fire a projectile to kill something ?
1) Indeed guns are designed to fire a projectile, BUT the claim that "guns
are designed to fire a projectile to kill something" is a BLATANT LIE
Want proof, just look at all the guns used in BOTH the Summer and
Winter Olympics
How many of them were designed to "kill something" ?
NOT A SINGLE ONE
2) And nonetheless, even though buckets and bathtubs were NOT designed to
fire a projectile, they STILL cause 5 times more children's deaths than
guns.
> Ya fuckin' moron.
That's a perfectly good signature in your case.
But why do you insist on proving it EVERY TIME you post ?
SaPeIsMa
What makes you imagine that the NRA would have ANY interest to "have his
(Micheal Moore's) ass for grass" ?
All they need to demonstrate is that MM is a bald-faced liar
Something that NOT ONLY the NRA has done, but other groups NOT affiliated to
the NRA have ALSO done.
> "A bunch of misinformation and outright lies to gull the ignorati such as
> you."
>
And yet, you keep proving me right
> You bought into the NRA mindset and bullshite, you drank the koolaid.
>
1) I'm not even a member of the NRA
So NO, I have NOT "drunk their Cool-Aid (whatever that may be)
2) Do you even KNOW the history of WHY and HOW the NRA was founded ?
Maybe you should find out by educating yourself first
3) Do you even KNOW who funds the NRA ?
It's NOT the so-called "Gun Lobby" since the NRA is a MAJOR PART
of said "Gun Lobby"
(But that just proves the stupid recursiveness of your
mindset)
And it's NOT the Gun manufaturers either
Maybe you should find out by educating yourself first
Or are you just another hoplphobe parrot repeating the Michael
Moore lies ?
>
> Loser.
>
I do love your signatures
You keep demonstrate that you know what you are.
SaPeIsMa
Dummy,
Why should I sue Michael Moore in Court
And for what exactly ?
And by the way, his lies, just like yours have done me no REAL harm.
So technically, I would have no standing to sue him OR YOU anyway
But hey, that's one of those finer technicalities that are beyond
the ken of simpletons \such as you
SaPeIsMa
>
> "Benny Hill" <B_H...@usa.net> wrote in message
> news:bKNLj.115853$yE1.74689@attbi_s21...
>>
>> "Jeffrey Hamilton" <bbere...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>> news:c4LLj.51241$612....@read1.cgocable.net...
>>>
>>> >
>>> what
>>> was Bowling for Columbine refering too, regarding the NRA.
>>>
>>
>> If you're a Mike Moore fan,, what more do I need to say. he's a
>> loon
>> and so are you.
>>>
>>
> And if your a right-wing NRA retard, what more can I say ? They are
> retards and _so_are_you_!
>
Are you stupid enough to presume that JUST because somebody doesn't agree
with you, they AUTOMATICALLY are members of the NRA ?
LOL
How dumb can you get ?
Oh wait, what am I saying..... <snicker.>
Morton Davis
<gjan...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:taNLj.6$nT1.5@trndny09...
>
>
> When are you right wingers going the get the message that statments made
> on usenet by other nuts are not proof of anything!
>
>
Dr. James West, Ph.D.
he he he... this is a good example of the thinking of these gun goofballs.
"Hey, criminals don't obey laws, why should we? Laws don't work, only
law-abiding citizens obey laws."
...or some such nonsense...
Fortunately, they are well marginalized by normal society.
To me, they are a bit like the Flat Earth Society.
Enjoy...
;-)
gjan...@nospam.net
What's the matter asshole lifer - you don't like being pointed out a
bi-polar that needs more meds?
...and I bet you are going to have a snit here for a week just to prove
you are what I said.
Track the right wing ass boys. He'll prove me right, like he always does.
In <66ac5eF...@mid.individual.net>, on 04/11/2008
tj4...@nospam.net
Well son, we know that you clearly do eat shit -- since we all know that
one right wing kook quoting antoher right wing, is not proof of anything.
Yet you offer it, and whine when its rejected.
In <LuWLj.116470$yE1.86477@attbi_s21>, on 04/12/2008
Hal
> "Jeffrey Hamilton" <bberesf...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>
> news:i_uLj.51200$612....@read1.cgocable.net...
>
>
>
> > Wasn't *Bowling For Columbine* all about the NRA showing up for a *Shriners
> > type * parade and festive event _after_ a _ murderous_ gun-event_ at a local
> > high school ?
> > Such nice people, those NRA type's, so community minded.
> > Such good timing for a *festive, joyous, opportunity to celebrate* the
> > death, of those youngster's.
>
>
>
> > cheers....Jeff
>
> Another dunbass canucky that has "no" clue what he is
> talking about.
Dunbass? Is that a kind of fish or are you just failing as a bigot?
Benny
WHY DON'T YOU HANG IT UP, YOU IGNORANT COMMUNIST BASTARD.
Benny
I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE EVER HEARD ANYONE MAKE A MORE IGNORANT STATEMENT.
Benny
> "Tiger" <Lana_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47FECCF5...@hotmail.com...
>
>>Jeffrey Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>>"Tiger" <Lana_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:47FB8636...@hotmail.com...
>>>Really ?
>>>Quote:> by a knife, bat or a gallon of unleaded & a match
>>>
>>>That would indicate a level of physical involvement way beyond the simple
>>>step of pulling a trigger which is so, so easy.
>>>
>>>I think your example falls a little short of making your intended point.
>>>Care to try again ?
>>>
>>> cheers....Jeff
>>>
>>
>>Realy? One on the worst mass murders in Us history was not even by a gun
>>or even a Ryder truck. Just a galllon of gas & some matches killed 87
>>people in NYC in 1987 at the Happy land Social Club. Far cheaper than any
>>gun, available anywhere, require little skill to use. The person commited
>>to taking life cares little for the method.
>>
>
>
> ....and Timothy McVeigh beat that record all to hell with a little gasoline
> and fertilizer. And your point is ?
And your point is?
Benny
> On Apr 8, 5:25 am, "So-called Dr. James West, Ph.D." <n...@nobull.com>
> wrote:
>
> http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj227/REN237/KennedyCar1.jpg
>
> While we're at it, lets ban motorcycles which much more dangerous than
> autos and general aviation, which is much more dangerous than
> commercial air travel and while we're at it, no one needs a car that
> can do more than 100 mph, so lets ban sports and other high
> performance cars and....well, you get the idea
>
> I''ve spent a lifetime around firearms, never shot anyone, never
> wanted to shoot anyone, never known anyone else who did either.
But don't you sometimes get a slight urge to play doctor yourself and
give really ignorant life forms like dr james a 357 injection?
>
>
>
>
>>http://michaelmoore.com/
>
>
> SNIP
>
> Ever figure out how to write your own posts instead of spamming the
> Net?
Get a life
<Xg...@gunless.com> wrote in message
news:20080412142846.154$M...@newsreader.com...
> Heston's beloved gun won't save him in Hell where he now resides!
>
> Good riddance to gun rubbish!
>
The only rubbish around here is you. Are you proud of slandering a great
man?
Jim
Zomby...@cox.net
>Heston's beloved gun won't save him in Hell where he now resides!
>
>Good riddance to gun rubbish!
>
I hope you never have the need for one, cause I'd just laugh.
--
"Before all else, be armed" -- Machiavelli
La N
<Zomby...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On 12 Apr 2008 18:28:44 GMT, Xg...@gunless.com wrote:
>
>>Heston's beloved gun won't save him in Hell where he now resides!
>>
>>Good riddance to gun rubbish!
>>
> I hope you never have the need for one, cause I'd just laugh.
> --
Geeze, Wolfie ... for a minute I thought you were going to invoke the
Beatles song ...
Happiness is a warm gun (bang bang, shoot shoot)
Happiness is a warm gun (bang bang, shoot shoot)
When I hold you in my arms
And I feel my finger on your trigger
I know nobody can do me no harm
Because (happiness) happiness is a warm gun (bang bang, shoot shoot)
Happiness is a warm gun
Yes it is
- nilita
Zomby...@cox.net
wrote:
Except The Beatles were doing a double entendre on that one. Sort of
like the "Little man in the Boat" ain't a sailor.
La N
<Zomby...@cox.net> wrote in message
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I know, Wolf Man, but wouldn't you rather be making love than war? ... %)
- nilita
R AR
"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:EHoMj.9546$682.2654@edtnps90...
Now days I think war may be safer.
Zomby...@cox.net
wrote:
If you are in a War, you are fucked.
Zomby...@cox.net
Full body Condoms come to mind.
Tiger
> "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8q2dnRfOu_AhFGLanZ2dnUVZ_oGjnZ2d@cpinternet...
>
>>"Jeffrey Hamilton" <bbere...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>>news:29LLj.51244$612....@read1.cgocable.net...
>>
>>>
>>>>Red Cloud wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Apr 8, 7:50 am, Tiger <Lana_sa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>slashing or match fire on gasoline.
>>>>
>>>>Kid pulls trigger on gun and dies. Kid plays with fire and burns house
>>>>and dies. Kid falls in swimming pool and can't swim and dies. So the
>>>>result is the same. None is any worse & is replaceable as a cause of
>>>>death.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Except for the proliferation of _SO_ MANY_ GUNS_ and _SO_EASY_TO_GET_.
>>>Not
>>>the same at all!
>>>
>>
>>More kids drown in buckets and bathtubs than are shot
>> About 5 times more
>>And it wouldn't happen "Except for the proliferation of _SO_ MANY_
>>BUCKETS_
>>and _BATHTUBS_SO_EASY_TO_GET_. Not the same at all! "
>>
>>Now do you see how stupid and ignorant you are ?
>>
>>
>
> I clearly see how ignorant and stupid you are.
> Who the fuck is talking about bathtubs and buckets?
> Are bathtubs and buckets designed to fire a projectile to kill something ?
> Ya fuckin' moron.
>
>
Guns are used for purposes other than killing. Shooting has been a
Olympic event for years. Hundreds attend the National matches at Camp
Perry, OH every year. Guns serve good & evil. Your focus is just on evil.
FD
wrote:
> Heston's beloved gun won't save him in Hell where he now resides!
>
> Good riddance to gun rubbish!
We would not need guns if there was not so much hatred in the world. Be
nice.
Zomby...@cox.net
Truer words have never been spoken. Majority of people who legally
carry handguns do so for defensive purposes, not offensive ones.
La N
"FD" <F...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Hatred and fear.
- nilita
Jeffrey Hamilton
They certainly are, ever heard of Susan Natrass ?
visit this: http://www.traphof.org/inductees/nattrass_susan.htm
You'd be surprized at how many people she hasn't shot.
cheers.....Jeff
Jeffrey Hamilton
<Zomby...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Totally agreed, now if only....
cheers.....Jeff
Tiger
Let's see what you say Next time a Katrina type disaster comes and the
looters knock on your door......
Billzz
FD
Tiger <Lana_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I was standing up for your hero, Heston. You are an idiot.
Sheldon
> -- are gun goofballs. And every cop in the country will tell you that
> too.
So, based on your logic every cop is a gun goofball. Everyone in the
military is a gun goofball. You said it, not me.
SaPeIsMa
"Sheldon" <she...@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
news:r9WdnRpZW6E0GoPV...@comcast.com...
1) Please leave the ID of the poster you are responding to
It gives us an idea of how seriously (or not) we should take the
original poster
2) Most "street" cops are PRO-gun and PRO-carry (open or concealed)
It's the "chiefs", who being political animals, are more apt to be
anti-carry
Dr. James West, Ph.D.
>
>>> Read the thread son. People who want to carry guns about in public
>>> places
>>> -- are gun goofballs. And every cop in the country will tell you that
>>> too.
>>
Was that "research" done by a gun goofball?
Do those cops think it ok to carry a shotgun too?
ha ha ha!!! you gun goofballs crack me up...
;-)
fnij...@nospam.net
Stop living in your fantasy world gun nut. No police chief anywhere is
going to let someone walk down the street armed -- even if legal --
without thinking its a nut case and having the person under constant
surveillance.
In <m7mdnbV21Oc_AoPVnZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d@cpinternet>, on 05/05/2008
fnij...@nospam.net
Run along junior. Your attempt at writing fiction has failed.
In <r9WdnRpZW6E0GoPV...@comcast.com>, on 05/04/2008
Herb Martin
<fnij...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:%DCTj.4985$cD3.1455@trndny02...
>
> Stop living in your fantasy world gun nut. No police chief anywhere is
> going to let someone walk down the street armed -- even if legal --
> without thinking its a nut case and having the person under constant
> surveillance.
People do it regularly in Virginia and other states such as North Carolina.
Concealed Carry permit holders in Virginia MUST either disarm or
reveal their firearm when entering restaraunts (and certain other locations)
which serve alcohol so this is common as well.
In the (few) cases where police have over reacted to Open Carry
recently in VA, they almost always end up with a political stink,
rebukes from the City Council, (re)training of police officers, or
similar problems.
Open Carry states include: VA, NC, KY, VT, NV, ID, WY,
MT, SD, AK, and some others with varying rules.
If you wish to continue your ignorant rant about open carry then
you should definitely take it to the forums for OpenCarry.com:
Isn't it terrible when those pesky facts get in the way of your most
cherished misconceptions and futile ignorance?
fnij...@nospam.net
Run along gun nut and play your fantasy games somewhere else. No one
anywhere gets to walk around with a weapon in public without raising
suspicion, and usually bringing on surveillance too.
In <481efc56$1$30498$4c36...@roadrunner.com>, on 05/05/2008
Herb Martin
<fnij...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:lhDTj.5067$ch1.491@trndny09...
>
> Run along gun nut and play your fantasy games somewhere else. No one
> anywhere gets to walk around with a weapon in public without raising
> suspicion, and usually bringing on surveillance too.
Isn't it terrible when those pesky facts get in the way of your most
cherished misconceptions and futile ignorance?
If you wish to continue your ignorant rant about open carry then you
should definitely take it to the forums for OpenCarry.com:
When you best 'argument' is calling people names or otherwise trying
to demean and demonize you pretty much know that YOU HAVE
NO VALID CASE for your beliefs.
Enjoy reality.
Civic Virtue
<ne...@learnquick.com> wrote:
>Concealed Carry permit holders in Virginia MUST either disarm or
>reveal their firearm when entering restaraunts (and certain other locations)
>which serve alcohol so this is common as well.
I have never seen a gun shop into which they would allow one to carry
a loaded gun. I always thought it ironic that CostCo would take so
much flak for their stance prohibiting carry when virtually all gun
stores are "no carry" zones.
Another point is that you may not carry in any location "where
government business is transacted". If it's such a grand idea, then
you should be allowed to carry in our lawmakers' offices, but they
exepmt themselves right up front.
fnij...@nospam.net
You're another gun nut asshole that needs to run along. its amazing how
stupid you idiots are; I didn't say you asses can't carry a weapon -- I
said " No one anywhere gets to walk around with a weapon in public without
raising suspicion, and usually bringing on surveillance too."
You own gun nut website says the same thing -- in many more words. Now go
play asshole somewhere else. It idiots like the gun nuts here that are
the reason " No one anywhere gets to walk around with a weapon in public
without raising suspicion, and usually bringing on surveillance too."
Now run along and let it sink in!
In <481f063a$1$30514$4c36...@roadrunner.com>, on 05/05/2008
Bama Brian
Funny isn't it; how our government at all levels now fears the citizens
it serves and must search them before allowing them to talk to their
servants?
Makes one wonder just what they are doing that they have such fear.
--
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana, 1863 - 1952
Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
RD (The Sandman)
>
> Stop living in your fantasy world gun nut. No police chief anywhere
> is going to let someone walk down the street armed -- even if legal
> -- without thinking its a nut case and having the person under
> constant surveillance.
Do you think he is paranoid about all those officers under his command
that walk down the street armed? If not, why not.
> In <m7mdnbV21Oc_AoPVnZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d@cpinternet>, on 05/05/2008
> at 12:43 AM, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@Hotmail.com> said:
>
>
>
>
>>"Sheldon" <she...@XXXXXXXXsopris.net> wrote in message
>>news:r9WdnRpZW6E0GoPV...@comcast.com...
>>>> Read the thread son. People who want to carry guns about in public
>>>> places
>>>> -- are gun goofballs. And every cop in the country will tell you
>>>> that too.
>>>
>>> So, based on your logic every cop is a gun goofball. Everyone in
>>> the military is a gun goofball. You said it, not me.
>>>
>
>
>>1) Please leave the ID of the poster you are responding to
>> It gives us an idea of how seriously (or not) we should take
>> the
>>original poster
>>2) Most "street" cops are PRO-gun and PRO-carry (open or concealed)
>> It's the "chiefs", who being political animals, are more apt
>> to
>>be anti-carry
>
>
>
--
RD (The Sandman)
War is absolute hell.....but to give in
to terrorism is much, much worse
RD (The Sandman)
news:481efc56$1$30498$4c36...@roadrunner.com:
>
> <fnij...@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:%DCTj.4985$cD3.1455@trndny02...
>>
>> Stop living in your fantasy world gun nut. No police chief anywhere
>> is going to let someone walk down the street armed -- even if legal
>> -- without thinking its a nut case and having the person under
>> constant surveillance.
>
>
> People do it regularly in Virginia and other states such as North
> Carolina.
>
> Concealed Carry permit holders in Virginia MUST either disarm or
> reveal their firearm when entering restaraunts (and certain other
> locations) which serve alcohol so this is common as well.
>
> In the (few) cases where police have over reacted to Open Carry
> recently in VA, they almost always end up with a political stink,
> rebukes from the City Council, (re)training of police officers, or
> similar problems.
>
> Open Carry states include: VA, NC, KY, VT, NV, ID, WY,
> MT, SD, AK, and some others with varying rules.
Arizona is also open carry.
> If you wish to continue your ignorant rant about open carry then
> you should definitely take it to the forums for OpenCarry.com:
>
> http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/
Thanks for the link.
RD (The Sandman)
news:ac4u14daunml6ehbe...@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 5 May 2008 07:23:49 -0500, in alt.war.vietnam "Herb Martin"
> <ne...@learnquick.com> wrote:
>
>>Concealed Carry permit holders in Virginia MUST either disarm or
>>reveal their firearm when entering restaraunts (and certain other
>>locations) which serve alcohol so this is common as well.
>
> I have never seen a gun shop into which they would allow one to carry
> a loaded gun.
You are in the wrong area. Most of the gun shops here allow open carry
or concealed of loaded firearms within their stores. It is just that it
must remain holstered.
SaPeIsMa
"Civic Virtue" <gw...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ac4u14daunml6ehbe...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 5 May 2008 07:23:49 -0500, in alt.war.vietnam "Herb Martin"
> <ne...@learnquick.com> wrote:
>
>>Concealed Carry permit holders in Virginia MUST either disarm or
>>reveal their firearm when entering restaraunts (and certain other
>>locations)
>>which serve alcohol so this is common as well.
>
> I have never seen a gun shop into which they would allow one to carry
> a loaded gun.
LOL
Then you probably have not been to a lot of gun shops
I have yet to see a gun shop where I was not allowed to carry.
At one shop, I was even asked if I would mind letting them see what I was
carrying (CZ 100 in 40 S&W), which meant drawing and unloading the firearm
Before I did so I asked them if they were sure.
Their response was, "You do it right, and we'll have no problems..."
> I always thought it ironic that CostCo would take so
> much flak for their stance prohibiting carry when virtually all gun
> stores are "no carry" zones.
>
Thoughts based on ignorance are not worth much
Which pretty well explains why your conclusion is clueless
> Another point is that you may not carry in any location "where
> government business is transacted". If it's such a grand idea, then
> you should be allowed to carry in our lawmakers' offices, but they
> exepmt themselves right up front.
>
At least they try
You will be seeing a lot of those "exceptions" being removed after the
Parker decision, since they will be found to be unconstitutional.
And if some agencies balk, you can expect to see lawsuits pop up to
challenge such restrictions
Civic Virtue
<SaPe...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I have never seen a gun shop into which they would allow one to carry
>> a loaded gun.
>
>LOL
> Then you probably have not been to a lot of gun shops
>I have yet to see a gun shop where I was not allowed to carry.
>
>At one shop, I was even asked if I would mind letting them see what I was
>carrying (CZ 100 in 40 S&W), which meant drawing and unloading the firearm
>Before I did so I asked them if they were sure.
>Their response was, "You do it right, and we'll have no problems..."
Yes... it's always, "Wow! That's a neat gun. May I see it, please?"
Of course, had you refused, you would have been told to leave the
property. Few retailers actually have a sign posted; however, if a
person with a weapon comes to their attention, then that person will
be asked to remove the weapon immediately. The policy is usually in
the "employee handbook", so an employee with a gun would be
trespassing, customers only if they refuse to leave when told.
If you don't believe me, find the manager of any retail store, tell
him or her that you have a gun, and see how long they let you stay.
Civic Virtue
Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>> I have never seen a gun shop into which they would allow one to carry
>> a loaded gun.
>
>You are in the wrong area. Most of the gun shops here allow open carry
>or concealed of loaded firearms within their stores. It is just that it
>must remain holstered.
I doubt it; however, I do not know where "here" is, so I'm not
claiming you're untruthful. I think that you'll probably be picked up
by a sales person who will ask if he can examine the gun, generally
with: "Is that a 1911 .45? Wow! May I see it? (I've never actually
seen one of those before!)" That's what one said to me, anyway. The
shop was in Stephenville, MT. Maybe the 1911 .45 wasn't used that far
north, I don't know.
RD (The Sandman)
> On Mon, 05 May 2008 11:31:39 -0500, in alt.war.vietnam "RD (The
> Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>> I have never seen a gun shop into which they would allow one to carry
>>> a loaded gun.
>>
>>You are in the wrong area. Most of the gun shops here allow open carry
>>or concealed of loaded firearms within their stores. It is just that
it
>>must remain holstered.
>
> I doubt it; however, I do not know where "here" is, so I'm not
> claiming you're untruthful. I think that you'll probably be picked up
> by a sales person who will ask if he can examine the gun, generally
> with: "Is that a 1911 .45? Wow! May I see it? (I've never actually
> seen one of those before!)"
Most of them will simply nod to you and go on about their business as you
do.
That's what one said to me, anyway. The
> shop was in Stephenville, MT. Maybe the 1911 .45 wasn't used that far
> north, I don't know.
I am in southern Arizona. Most shops here have no problems with you
carrying a loaded firearm in their stores. All of their employees also
do. 1911's are all over the country. I personally carry a revolver but
there are tons of 1911s in the area.
RD (The Sandman)
> On Mon, 5 May 2008 11:30:33 -0500, in alt.war.vietnam "SaPeIsMa"
> <SaPe...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> I have never seen a gun shop into which they would allow one to
>>> carry a loaded gun.
>>
>>LOL
>> Then you probably have not been to a lot of gun shops
>>I have yet to see a gun shop where I was not allowed to carry.
>>
>>At one shop, I was even asked if I would mind letting them see what I
>>was carrying (CZ 100 in 40 S&W), which meant drawing and unloading the
>>firearm Before I did so I asked them if they were sure.
>>Their response was, "You do it right, and we'll have no problems..."
>
> Yes... it's always, "Wow! That's a neat gun. May I see it, please?"
> Of course, had you refused, you would have been told to leave the
> property.
We don't get that. Apparently folks around here are so used to seeing
guns that they don't really care what you carry unless you are in a
conversation with one of the employees and the subject comes up.
> Few retailers actually have a sign posted;
That's true. Of course, some of those signs say "No Gun Allowed" and some
of those signs say "Leave it Holstered".
however, if a
> person with a weapon comes to their attention, then that person will
> be asked to remove the weapon immediately.
Not here in southern Arizona unless the property is posted "No Guns
Allowed" and I don't shop in those.
> The policy is usually in
> the "employee handbook", so an employee with a gun would be
> trespassing, customers only if they refuse to leave when told.
>
> If you don't believe me, find the manager of any retail store, tell
> him or her that you have a gun, and see how long they let you stay.
I carry openly in many of the stores around here including WalMart when I
go there from time to time.
Zomby...@cox.net
What is really funny is the majority of Cops I know personally, or
have even talked to on the matter have absolutely no problem at all
with legally licensed firearms carriers. They actually see them as
"Force" multipliers.
After all in the U.S. Law Enforcement (as opposed to Police/Cops) will
readily admit there isn't much they can do to protect the average
citizen, just clean-up the mess after it occurs. More or less they
are just Societal Garbagemen.
--
Zomby...@cox.net
wrote:
Absolutely, regular non-political appointed "Street" Cops see properly
trained & licensed citizens as Force Multipliers. Your average street
cop is more then aware that they cannot be everywhere at once,
especially when they are so often assigned revenue generating duties
(Speed Traps) over neighborhood patrols.
Simply look at the average response times for most departments. You
might as well call the undertaker given the amount of time it will
take most departments to come clean-up the mess as opposed to the
rescue.
Zomby...@cox.net
<na...@nobull.com> wrote:
>SaPeIsMa wrote:
>>
>>>> Read the thread son. People who want to carry guns about in public
>>>> places
>>>> -- are gun goofballs. And every cop in the country will tell you that
>>>> too.
>>>
>> Most "street" cops are PRO-carry (open or concealed)
>
>Was that "research" done by a gun goofball?
>
Come up with "any" research that says other then the "Political
Appointee" Cops, that Law Enforcement is anti-RKBA. If you have
trouble using Google I'm quite sure a PhD could read up on how to use
it.
>
>Do those cops think it ok to carry a shotgun too?
>
As long as you are properly trained & licensed. However, you are the
one constantly nattering on about carrying a shotgun as a concealed
weapon -- something extremely difficult to do.
>
>ha ha ha!!! you gun goofballs crack me up...
>
You victims waiting to happen crack me up even more.