Bookshelves? name and sources
a425couple
And this is coming to a real issue because I will soon have
to be moving to a very nice house, but I want to do better on
the books and other display items (models & trophies etc.)
Currently, the books are mostly in 12 bookcases, and this
then requires several separate rooms.
I have an idea and I'd like to consider a real upgrade.
I know that in non public areas, libraries and archives use
a system where the 'bookcases/bookshelves' roll on tracks.
In this way basicly, the space that walking aisles normally
takes is saved (thus over 50% of space saved!).
The row of shelves is moved by a wheel/crank assembly.
Can somebody help me by posting either the generic or
brand names of these type of shelves?
Or even telling me of some sources?
Eugene Griessel
Dunno what they call them there but here it's known as mobile aisle
shelves.
Eugene L Griessel
What's the difference between a lawyer and a gigolo?
A gigolo only screws one person at a time.
La N
The de rigeur thing here for people who constantly add on to their library
collection is to buy components piecemeal fashion from Ikea. It's a matter
of taste, though. I don't know if you have Ikea in the States.
- nilita
John Briggs
They are called "rolling stacks". Library suppliers would act as agents
for this sort of thing. They are also used in warehousing, so are not
unique to libraries. I installed just such a system in a library about
15 years ago - and it was ripped out again a few years later...
--
John Briggs
John Briggs
Also called "mobile shelving". Needless to say, only consider it on the
ground floor - and I would recommend on a concrete floor at that... You
might also be surprised by the cost!
--
John Briggs
a425couple
Thank you very much. That was the name I needed for my searching.
Meanwhile,
http://friendfeed.com/cilip2/4c46dc97/upsetting-disregard-for-rolling-stacks
is kinda cute, and at 3:29 shows one of the rooms I'd
viewed a system in before!
Hmm (having done further searching before hitting send),
seems like most of the venders of "rolling stacks" are in UK,
anyone have an idea of what a more common USA title/name might be?
La N
As I worked for several years in the public library while attending school
and still haunt the local laundry, I know that locally they are known as
"mobile shelving".
- nil
a425couple
> a425couple wrote:
>> I have too many books I have an idea and I'd like to consider a real
>> I know that in non public areas, libraries and archives use
>> a system where the 'bookcases/bookshelves' roll on tracks.
>> In this way basicly, the space that walking aisles normally
>> takes is saved (thus over 50% of space saved!).
>> The row of shelves is moved by a wheel/crank assembly.
>>
>> Can somebody help me by posting either the generic or
>> brand names of these type of shelves?
>> Or even telling me of some sources?
>
> The de rigeur thing here for people who constantly add on to their library
> collection is to buy components piecemeal fashion from Ikea. It's a
> matter of taste, though. I don't know if you have Ikea in the States.
> - nilita
My friend, yes we do have Ikea around here
(hee hee, it's cafeteria is even a good place for lutefisk
every Christmas season!!).
Yes, indeed I may go with more regular book cases.
Meanwhile, what are the chances of next weekend
you being free to view some autos at the place I've
described for you before? (either Sat or Sun.)
La N
Damned. I'm too far away trying to tie up loose ends (even while I am
distracted .. by Usenet/Facebook once inawhile). After that I may be headed
West (close to where the autos in question tend to be). Or East.
Meanwhile, stay safe.
- nil
David Melville
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the biggest brand name is Compactus, (In Australia) which causes many
people to mistakenly refer to the unit as a whole as "compacters".
Like Duck Tape.
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Anthony Buckland
> On 20/06/2010 00:46, John Briggs wrote:
>> They are called "rolling stacks". Library suppliers would act as agents
>> for this sort of thing. They are also used in warehousing, so are not
>> unique to libraries. I installed just such a system in a library about
>> 15 years ago - and it was ripped out again a few years later...
>
> Also called "mobile shelving". Needless to say, only consider it on the
> ground floor - and I would recommend on a concrete floor at that... You
> might also be surprised by the cost!
As to the cost, I have no doubt. As to the structure needed
to support them: the Vancouver Public Library (Vancouver
BC) uses them on upper floors, which have yet to collapse.
Their building was purpose-built, so may have special
design features bearing these monsters in mind. Their
people might prove quite cooperative if you want materials
on the system's acquisition, structural demands and
cost.
La N
The Vancouver Public Library is gorgeous. MInd, it's been awhile since I
was in there; the last time I tried when I was in town, they were on strike.
- nilita
Jack Linthicum
See if your local library has a source that announces public libraries
disposing of equipment such as the shelves.
Andrew Chaplin
@news2.newsguy.com:
We use tracked shelving to archive committee document "wallets" and refer
to them as "lindias." I will have a look on Monday for a maker's name.
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Peter Skelton
<ab.ch...@yourfinger.rogers.com> wrote:
>"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hvjig10dk0
>@news2.newsguy.com:
>
>> I have too many books (at least by some peoples view!).
>> And this is coming to a real issue because I will soon have
>> to be moving to a very nice house, but I want to do better on
>> the books and other display items (models & trophies etc.)
>> Currently, the books are mostly in 12 bookcases, and this
>> then requires several separate rooms.
>>
>> I have an idea and I'd like to consider a real upgrade.
>> I know that in non public areas, libraries and archives use
>> a system where the 'bookcases/bookshelves' roll on tracks.
>> In this way basicly, the space that walking aisles normally
>> takes is saved (thus over 50% of space saved!).
>> The row of shelves is moved by a wheel/crank assembly.
>>
>> Can somebody help me by posting either the generic or
>> brand names of these type of shelves?
>> Or even telling me of some sources?
>
>We use tracked shelving to archive committee document "wallets" and refer
>to them as "lindias." I will have a look on Monday for a maker's name.
Montel makes a lot of this stuff, a minute spent on Google
searching for "library shelving" will bring him lots of answers
new and used.
Peter Skelton
John Briggs
"Purpose-built" is the key. You have to transfer the weight to the
load-bearing columns or walls. Paper is heavy. The project management
team for one of my libraries refused to believe the figures I gave them
for floor-loading. I caught one of them weighing one of my books!
--
John Briggs
John Briggs
> On Jun 19, 7:05 pm, "a425couple"<a425cou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I have too many books (at least by some peoples view!).
>> And this is coming to a real issue because I will soon have
>> to be moving to a very nice house, but I want to do better on
>> Currently, the books are mostly in 12 bookcases, and this
>> then requires several separate rooms.
>>
>> I have an idea and I'd like to consider a real upgrade.
>> I know that in non public areas, libraries and archives use
>> a system where the 'bookcases/bookshelves' roll on tracks.
>> In this way basicly, the space that walking aisles normally
>> takes is saved (thus over 50% of space saved!).
>> The row of shelves is moved by a wheel/crank assembly.
>>
>> Can somebody help me by posting either the generic or
>> brand names of these type of shelves?
>> Or even telling me of some sources?
>
> See if your local library has a source that announces public libraries
> disposing of equipment such as the shelves.
It needs to be installed by specialists.
--
John Briggs
La N
Plus, by the time they are disposed of by libraries, they are in a bit tacky
condition, and I know my esteemed friend would now like "tacky" in his new
home.
- nililta
Derek Lyons
>I have an idea and I'd like to consider a real upgrade.
>I know that in non public areas, libraries and archives use
>a system where the 'bookcases/bookshelves' roll on tracks.
>In this way basicly, the space that walking aisles normally
>takes is saved (thus over 50% of space saved!).
>The row of shelves is moved by a wheel/crank assembly.
Keep in mind that this density of storage requires specially
strengthened floors - something you're average house distinctly lacks.
D.
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Derek Lyons
>As to the cost, I have no doubt. As to the structure needed
>to support them: the Vancouver Public Library (Vancouver
>BC) uses them on upper floors, which have yet to collapse.
>Their building was purpose-built, so may have special
>design features bearing these monsters in mind.
They certainly do have specially strengthened structures, professional
architects and engineers being well aware of the special needs of
libraries.
John Briggs
> "Anthony Buckland"<anthonybuc...@telus.net> wrote:
>
>> As to the cost, I have no doubt. As to the structure needed
>> to support them: the Vancouver Public Library (Vancouver
>> BC) uses them on upper floors, which have yet to collapse.
>> Their building was purpose-built, so may have special
>> design features bearing these monsters in mind.
>
> They certainly do have specially strengthened structures, professional
> architects and engineers being well aware of the special needs of
> libraries.
Not always, not always :-)
--
John Briggs
John Briggs
> "a425couple"<a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have an idea and I'd like to consider a real upgrade.
>> I know that in non public areas, libraries and archives use
>> a system where the 'bookcases/bookshelves' roll on tracks.
>> In this way basicly, the space that walking aisles normally
>> takes is saved (thus over 50% of space saved!).
>> The row of shelves is moved by a wheel/crank assembly.
>
> Keep in mind that this density of storage requires specially
> strengthened floors - something you're average house distinctly lacks.
A concrete floor on the ground floor would be fine. The weight would be
spread evenly.
--
John Briggs
a425couple
> Am 20.06.2010 01:05, a425couple wrote:
>> I will soon have
>> to be moving to a very nice house, but I want to do better on
>> the books and other display items (models & trophies etc.)
>> Currently, the books are mostly in 12 bookcases, and this
>> then requires several separate rooms.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg9qnWg9kak
> ;-)
Wow! After letting that youtube video sink in & react some.
What a concept!!
OK, I have some varied & eclectic tastes.
Imagine this, items on the cases / walls arranged so that:
WHAT-IF (cost & weight did not matter!!)
Version #1 the walls/bookcases of a room have my
naval books (from Janes book of fighting ships to WWII books)
and facing them my collection of 1/700 model ships.
(Many of these have not seen daylight for 15 years!)
Version #2 the walls/bookcases of a room have my:
Auto racing books (from Autocourses to AutoWeek).
My die cast cars (mostly 1/48 F1 & LeMans & sports).
My trophies & flags.
Version 3 - References for general, econ & politics, etc.
a425couple
> Andrew Chaplin <ab.ch...@yourfinger.rogers.com> wrote:
>>"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> brand names of these type of shelves?
>>> Or even telling me of some sources?
>>
>>We use tracked shelving to archive committee document "wallets" and refer
>>to them as "lindias." I will have a look on Monday for a maker's name.
>
> Montel makes a lot of this stuff, a minute spent on Google
> searching for "library shelving" will bring him lots of answers
> new and used. Peter Skelton
Thank you Andrew and Peter.
a425couple
>>>> And this is coming to a real issue because I will soon have
>>>> to be moving to a very nice house, but I want to do better on
>>>> the books and other display items (models& trophies etc.)
>>>> Currently, the books are mostly in 12 bookcases, and this
>>>> then requires several separate rooms.
>>>>
>>>> Can somebody help me by posting either the generic or ----
>>>
>>> See if your local library has a source that announces public
>>> libraries disposing of equipment such as the shelves.
You would think I would still have some points of contact there
(I served as a volunteer duty, 10 years on the board of
commisioners).
Uhhh, probably not worth it. Turnover, change around & ethics.
>> It needs to be installed by specialists.
>
> Plus, by the time they are disposed of by libraries, they are in a bit
> tacky condition, and I know my esteemed friend would now like "tacky" in
> his new home. - nililta
Ha! Shows how little you can predict me!
I get along just fine with words like "functional", "tacky", "frugal",
"utilitarian", "waste not, want not".
It's the family that is trying to insist I do not need to do that anymore.
And my buying an "upgrade" is to make them happier.
La N
"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Well, I'm tacky enough to add on to my library shelving from Ikea, not to
mention the Swedish meatballs and lingonberries take out .. :)
- nilita
David Melville
wrote:
>
I just make the shit I need. It's cheaper and I get exactly what I want.
Ian Rawlings
> I just make the shit I need. It's cheaper and I get exactly what I want.
Wot, shit? I can make that.
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Frank Adam
<new...@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:
>On 2010-06-23, David Melville <davidm...@exemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>> I just make the shit I need. It's cheaper and I get exactly what I want.
>
>Wot, shit? I can make that.
>
Big deal, so you have a steel locker lined with alufoil and a heat
lamp.. ;)
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David Melville
wrote:
> On 2010-06-23, David Melville <davidm...@exemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>> I just make the shit I need. It's cheaper and I get exactly what I want.
>
> Wot, shit? I can make that.
>
Custom, though?
David Melville
Play nice.
Andrew Chaplin
> "Peter Skelton" <skelt...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message...
> > Andrew Chaplin <ab.chap...@yourfinger.rogers.com> wrote:
> >>"a425couple" <a425cou...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >>> Can somebody help me by posting either the generic or
> >>> brand names of these type of shelves?
> >>> Or even telling me of some sources?
>
> >>We use tracked shelving to archive committee document "wallets" and refer
> >>to them as "lindias." I will have a look on Monday for a maker's name.
>
> > Montel makes a lot of this stuff, a minute spent on Google
> > searching for "library shelving" will bring him lots of answers
> > new and used. Peter Skelton
>
> Thank you Andrew and Peter.
We're using TAB mobile shelving. It's quite robust stuff and it likely
doesn't come cheap.
http://www.tab.com/Products/MobileShelving/MobileTab.aspx
Ian Rawlings
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:50:50 +1000, Ian Rawlings <new...@tarcus.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2010-06-23, David Melville <davidm...@exemail.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> I just make the shit I need. It's cheaper and I get exactly what I want.
>>
>> Wot, shit? I can make that.
>
> Custom, though?
It's made on demand, although colour choices are limited.
Derek Lyons
>"La N" <nilita20...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't know if you have Ikea in the States.
>>
>
>Only for the last quarter century or so...
And only in limited areas.
Jack Linthicum
> Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> I don't know if you have Ikea in the States.
>
> >Only for the last quarter century or so...
>
> And only in limited areas.
>
> D.
> --
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>
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>
> -Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
> Oct 5th, 2004 JDL
Like where they are?
build
Do us a favour, jump off the nearest building.
Ralph E Lindberg
<9eb6b4d5-71fe-44da...@d16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Jack Linthicum <jackli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Like where they are?
Just about every metro area has at least one
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Jack Linthicum
> In article
> <9eb6b4d5-71fe-44da-a9c6-71689052c...@d16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Like where they are?
>
> Just about every metro area has at least one
>
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That's "limited" ?
Mark Borgerson
n7...@callsign.net says...
> In article
> <9eb6b4d5-71fe-44da...@d16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> Jack Linthicum <jackli...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Like where they are?
>
> Just about every metro area has at least one
>
>
There are only 38 Ikea stores in the US. Eight
are in California. There are a dozen states in the
Midwest without an Ikea store. If you live in Denver,
the closest is either somewhere in Texas or Draper, UT.
http://info.ikea-usa.com/StoreLocator/StoreLocator.aspx
Mark Borgerson
Derek Lyons
Yep. Ikea has carefully covered most major markets, but there are
noteable exceptions (Denver, Memphis, Raliegh-Durham among them).
Jack Linthicum
> Mark Borgerson <mborger...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >In article <n7bsn-CC6758.05412829062...@unknown.sj.astraweb.com>,
> >n7...@callsign.net says...
> >> In article
> >> <9eb6b4d5-71fe-44da-a9c6-71689052c...@d16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> >> Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >> > Like where they are?
>
> >> Just about every metro area has at least one
>
> >You have a limited definition of "metro area", then.
> >There are only 38 Ikea stores in the US. Eight
> >are in California. There are a dozen states in the
> >Midwest without an Ikea store. If you live in Denver,
> >the closest is either somewhere in Texas or Draper, UT.
>
> >http://info.ikea-usa.com/StoreLocator/StoreLocator.aspx
>
> Yep. Ikea has carefully covered most major markets, but there are
> noteable exceptions (Denver, Memphis, Raliegh-Durham among them).
>
> D.
> --
> Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.
>
> http://derekl1963.livejournal.com/
>
> -Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
> Oct 5th, 2004 JDL
Just got into Central Florida recently.
Anthony Buckland
"Mark Borgerson" <mborg...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.26939ef26...@news.eternal-september.org...
> ...
> There are only 38 Ikea stores in the US. Eight
> are in California. There are a dozen states in the
> Midwest without an Ikea store. If you live in Denver,
> the closest is either somewhere in Texas or Draper, UT.
In Canada we have 12, two of them in Metro Vancouver
alone, which in 2006 had 2.1 million inhabitants.
The US appears to have 30 metro areas of 1.9 million
or more, the top 12 of them with more than twice the
population of Metro Vancouver, with Metro NY having
about 10 times the population of Metro Vancouver.
The US should rise up and demand no taxation without
access to Swedish furniture (I am, by the way, still
waiting for the introduction of the Orgasm bed -- the
Ikea-deprived should look at some of the names of
their products to get the point of that).
David Melville
> FFS, 38 posts on bookshelves.
>
> Do us a favour, jump off the nearest building.
>
>
Fuck man. Moderated is that way ----->
Try out this joint during a US federal election.
frank
> I have too many books (at least by some peoples view!).
> to be moving to a very nice house, but I want to do better on
> Currently, the books are mostly in 12 bookcases, and this
> then requires several separate rooms.
>
> I know that in non public areas, libraries and archives use
> a system where the 'bookcases/bookshelves' roll on tracks.
> In this way basicly, the space that walking aisles normally
> takes is saved (thus over 50% of space saved!).
> The row of shelves is moved by a wheel/crank assembly.
>
> brand names of these type of shelves?
> Or even telling me of some sources?
Brodart sells library equipment, I use them for getting book covers.
Shelves are pricey, but are library grade. What you are looking for is
expensive as well as heavy. I seem to recall nearly a ton from the
catalog. Their catalog is free.
tankfixer
says...
The Ikea stuff I looked at wasn't too bad..
we may use some from the one line on the den we we get to redoing it
tankfixer
716890...@d16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, jackli...@earthlink.net
says...
>
> On Jun 29, 1:43ï¿œam, fairwa...@gmail.com (Derek Lyons) wrote:
> > Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >"La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> I don't know if you have Ikea in the States.
> >
> > >Only for the last quarter century or so...
> >
> > And only in limited areas.
> >
> Like where they are?