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Eugene Griessel

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Apr 5, 2005, 2:08:14 PM4/5/05
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Ok. Has everybody finished laughing? Right, here goes. On some WW2
German U-boats there was something, about the size of a largish
dog-kennel, just forward of the conning tower. Sort of a rounded dog
kennel. I've never really paid much attention to the thing, assuming
it to be some sort of hydrophone stowage or a place for the captain to
store his private schnapps supply (or his dachshund). I acquired
recently Das Boot on DVD. While the gang are underwater there appears
to be a hydrophone jobby emerging ahead of the gun. Which means (if
the director was as technically accurate as everybody says) that the
dog kennel as a hydrophone stowage seems less likely. So what was
this thing? No ribald comments please! (Sarah may ignore that).

Eugene L Griessel www.dynagen.co.za/eugene

The most sophisticated machine ever built by man has in it the
inherent limitations of the human mind.

old hoodoo

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Apr 5, 2005, 2:19:58 PM4/5/05
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Eugene Griessel wrote:

That was indeed a dog house....for the "sea-dog".

Peter Skelton

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Apr 5, 2005, 2:23:22 PM4/5/05
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It's the magnetic compas housing according to

http://www.pastfoundation.org/U166/ConningTower.htm


Peter Skelton

Sarah Hotdesking

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Apr 5, 2005, 2:30:13 PM4/5/05
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"old hoodoo" <alf...@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
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Since Eugene invited my comment and you set up the joke ... if the USTAFISH
were to incorporate such a structure, it would be Fred's kennel! (Or
alternatively the housing for USTAFISH's highly sophisticated alcohol and
totty detector.)

--
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Eugene Griessel

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Apr 5, 2005, 3:57:21 PM4/5/05
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Peter Skelton <skel...@cogeco.ca> wrote:

No. I don't believe it. That has got to be a cover-up for the long
"Ultra Streng Geheim" fact that German sub skippers took their
dachshunde to sea with them. I never heard that His Majesty or Uncle
Sam had to build kennels for their magnetic compasses. Come to that
neither did Tojo or El Duce. We'll see when Rob Arndt opens his "not
to be opened for a hundred years" files that I'm right!

I see that U995's control room has a "periscope to the magnetic
compass". So perhaps they did stuff a magnetic compass into the
kennel. The question now remains, why? Did Doenitz fail compass
swinging lessons at the U-Boot Schule?

Eugene L Griessel www.dynagen.co.za/eugene

Monday is a hard way to spend one-seventh of your life

Peter Skelton

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Apr 5, 2005, 4:55:18 PM4/5/05
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:57:21 GMT, eugene..@..dynagen..co..za
(Eugene Griessel) wrote:

The German SPCA was an off-shoot of the SS, it's natural that the
Kreigsmarine did things properly.

The British animal rights societies have since become tough.
Perhaps the U-boats had kennels behind the towers. HMCS
Chicoutimi lacked hers on arrival. That would explain the leak
and fire. Eugene, you're a genius.

Peter Skelton

BF Lake

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Apr 5, 2005, 7:35:28 PM4/5/05
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"Eugene Griessel" <eugene..@..dynagen..co..za> wrote

> >It's the magnetic compas housing according to

snip snip


> I see that U995's control room has a "periscope to the magnetic
> compass". So perhaps they did stuff a magnetic compass into the
> kennel. The question now remains, why? Did Doenitz fail compass
> swinging lessons at the U-Boot Schule?

1951 Seamanship Manual Vol 3 says , "..In submarines the upper conning tower
casting is made of manganese bronze if it is within a specified distance of
the magnetic compass."

Since the Germans were entirely lacking in manganese bronze due to a
little -known clause in the Treaty, they had to go with the casing- mounted
compass, which you had to look at with a special periscope made of wood from
the Black Forest. The repeater compass, in the after part of a U-boat's
conning tower as shown in the link Peter provided, was miles from the OOW
trying to see ahead, so it was never used, and besides it was wonky due to
strange deviations (which U-boat officers also had, it is said.)

Regards,
Barry


Mark Test

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Apr 5, 2005, 8:09:12 PM4/5/05
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"Eugene Griessel" <eugene..@..dynagen..co..za> wrote in message
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> Ok. Has everybody finished laughing? Right, here goes. On some WW2
> German U-boats there was something, about the size of a largish
> dog-kennel, just forward of the conning tower. Sort of a rounded dog
> kennel. I've never really paid much attention to the thing, assuming
> it to be some sort of hydrophone stowage or a place for the captain to
> store his private schnapps supply (or his dachshund). I acquired
> recently Das Boot on DVD. While the gang are underwater there appears
> to be a hydrophone jobby emerging ahead of the gun. Which means (if
> the director was as technically accurate as everybody says) that the
> dog kennel as a hydrophone stowage seems less likely. So what was
> this thing? No ribald comments please! (Sarah may ignore that).

Sounds like you are describing a "steerable" or manually controlled
hydrophone
assembly....no?

Mark


Andy Dingley

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Apr 5, 2005, 9:21:18 PM4/5/05
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:08:14 GMT, eugene..@..dynagen..co..za (Eugene
Griessel) wrote:

>Ok. Has everybody finished laughing? Right, here goes. On some WW2
>German U-boats there was something, about the size of a largish
>dog-kennel, just forward of the conning tower.

That was the compass housing.

The "dog kennel" wasn't fitted until the mid-war and was on the bridge
of the sail. They were also known as "coal sheds" / "coal scuttles"
(I forget the exact translation) - an armoured shelter for cowering in
during air attack. They weren't popular though - bridge crew under air
attack were generally busy either manning AA guns, or getting below to
dive.

Eugene Griessel

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Apr 6, 2005, 1:40:47 AM4/6/05
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"BF Lake" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

<snip>

>Since the Germans were entirely lacking in manganese bronze due to a
>little -known clause in the Treaty, they had to go with the casing- mounted
>compass, which you had to look at with a special periscope made of wood from
>the Black Forest. The repeater compass, in the after part of a U-boat's
>conning tower as shown in the link Peter provided, was miles from the OOW
>trying to see ahead, so it was never used, and besides it was wonky due to
>strange deviations (which U-boat officers also had, it is said.)

I suggest Sarah immediately investigate these strange deviations and
report back asap. (The wearing of jackboots and fishnets cannot be
considered "deviations" amongst submariners).

Eugene L Griessel www.dynagen.co.za/eugene

History could be divided into events which do not matter and events
which probably never occurred.
- W.R. Inge

Peter McLelland

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Apr 6, 2005, 2:45:31 AM4/6/05
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"Peter Skelton" <skel...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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That has some logic to it, RN submarines had their transmitting magnetic
compass in a shielded pressure container in the fin in my day, pre fin boats
would have had to have it in some 'box' on the casing or bridge.

Peter


Arved Sandstrom

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"Sarah Hotdesking" <shart...@MAWAYshartwell.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
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> "old hoodoo" <alf...@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
> news:lFA4e.11$fn5.4@okepread01...
> >
> > Eugene Griessel wrote:
> >
> > > Ok. Has everybody finished laughing? Right, here goes. On some WW2
> > > German U-boats there was something, about the size of a largish
> > > dog-kennel, just forward of the conning tower. Sort of a rounded dog
> > > kennel. I've never really paid much attention to the thing, assuming
> > > it to be some sort of hydrophone stowage or a place for the captain to
> > > store his private schnapps supply (or his dachshund). I acquired
> > > recently Das Boot on DVD. While the gang are underwater there appears
> > > to be a hydrophone jobby emerging ahead of the gun. Which means (if
> > > the director was as technically accurate as everybody says) that the
> > > dog kennel as a hydrophone stowage seems less likely. So what was
> > > this thing? No ribald comments please! (Sarah may ignore that).
> > >
> > > Eugene L Griessel www.dynagen.co.za/eugene
> > >
> > > The most sophisticated machine ever built by man has in it the
> > > inherent limitations of the human mind.
> >
> > That was indeed a dog house....for the "sea-dog".
> >
> Since Eugene invited my comment and you set up the joke ... if the
USTAFISH
> were to incorporate such a structure, it would be Fred's kennel! (Or
> alternatively the housing for USTAFISH's highly sophisticated alcohol and
> totty detector.)

I would put Fred in there, but it would be a humane structure. It would be
a warm torpedo tube with plenty of food...I want the Mk 27 Mod 3 Fred McCall
submersible suicide torpedo to be comfortable. Perhaps his pet chihuihua
could be with him too, in a small animal capsule with a secondary explosive
charge.

Jack Linthicum has been enough of a pest that I'd have him on an
experimental rocket, pissing his pants. Knowing that the last five rockets
blew up.

Peter (both of them - Skelton and McLelland) deserve to exit from submarines
at 500 feet using Draeger gear. Good luck, dudes.

Andrew Toppan should simply be launched from a Tomahawk tube. Of course, at
the final phase, he may not be cognizant of the control procedures.

I''ll let Paul Adam select his fate.

AHS


Jack Linthicum

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Apr 6, 2005, 8:12:08 AM4/6/05
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Arved Sandstrom wrote:

> Jack Linthicum has been enough of a pest that I'd have him on an
> experimental rocket, pissing his pants. Knowing that the last five
rockets
> blew up.
>
>

I would have the assurance of a very large, heavily funded group that
despite the five failures there were very definite indications that the
rocket would probably function within expected parameters, but that was
also the findings after the previous five attempts at testing.

Peter Skelton

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Apr 6, 2005, 7:43:00 AM4/6/05
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You've been taking Craig's sauce again, haven't you? And washing
it down with sterno?

Peter Skelton

Ogden Johnson III

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Apr 6, 2005, 12:06:38 PM4/6/05
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"Arved Sandstrom" <asand...@accesswave.ca> wrote:

>"Sarah Hotdesking" <shart...@MAWAYshartwell.freeserve.co.uk> wrote

>> Since Eugene invited my comment and you set up the joke ... if the


>USTAFISH
>> were to incorporate such a structure, it would be Fred's kennel! (Or
>> alternatively the housing for USTAFISH's highly sophisticated alcohol and
>> totty detector.)

> I would put Fred in there, but it would be a humane structure. It would be
>a warm torpedo tube with plenty of food...I want the Mk 27 Mod 3 Fred McCall
>submersible suicide torpedo to be comfortable. Perhaps his pet chihuihua
>could be with him too, in a small animal capsule with a secondary explosive
>charge.
>
>Jack Linthicum has been enough of a pest that I'd have him on an
>experimental rocket, pissing his pants. Knowing that the last five rockets
>blew up.
>
>Peter (both of them - Skelton and McLelland) deserve to exit from submarines
>at 500 feet using Draeger gear. Good luck, dudes.
>
>Andrew Toppan should simply be launched from a Tomahawk tube. Of course, at
>the final phase, he may not be cognizant of the control procedures.
>
>I''ll let Paul Adam select his fate.

<Shaking head in admiration>

Talk about "Fire for effect!!"

You've still got it, Gyrene.

</Shaking head in admiration>
--
OJ III
[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]

William Black

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Apr 6, 2005, 2:24:37 PM4/6/05
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"Arved Sandstrom" <asand...@accesswave.ca> wrote in message
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> I would put Fred in there, but it would be a humane structure. It would
be
> a warm torpedo tube with plenty of food...I want the Mk 27 Mod 3 Fred
McCall
> submersible suicide torpedo to be comfortable. Perhaps his pet chihuihua
> could be with him too, in a small animal capsule with a secondary
explosive
> charge.
>

Only if you get to clean it after firing...

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe
Barbeques on fire by chalets past the headland
I've watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off Newborough
All this will pass like ice-cream on the beach
Time for tea


Sarah Hotdesking

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"Eugene Griessel" <eugene..@..dynagen..co..za> wrote in message
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> "BF Lake" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >Since the Germans were entirely lacking in manganese bronze due to a
> >little -known clause in the Treaty, they had to go with the casing-
mounted
> >compass, which you had to look at with a special periscope made of wood
from
> >the Black Forest. The repeater compass, in the after part of a U-boat's
> >conning tower as shown in the link Peter provided, was miles from the OOW
> >trying to see ahead, so it was never used, and besides it was wonky due
to
> >strange deviations (which U-boat officers also had, it is said.)
>
> I suggest Sarah immediately investigate these strange deviations and
> report back asap. (The wearing of jackboots and fishnets cannot be
> considered "deviations" amongst submariners).
>
Report back? With any luck they'll take me hostage and **** me senseless.

Sarah Hotdesking

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"Arved Sandstrom" <asand...@accesswave.ca> wrote in message
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> I would put Fred in there, but it would be a humane structure. It would
be
> a warm torpedo tube with plenty of food...I want the Mk 27 Mod 3 Fred
McCall
> submersible suicide torpedo to be comfortable. Perhaps his pet chihuihua
> could be with him too, in a small animal capsule with a secondary
explosive
> charge.
>
> Jack Linthicum has been enough of a pest that I'd have him on an
> experimental rocket, pissing his pants. Knowing that the last five rockets
> blew up.
>
> Peter (both of them - Skelton and McLelland) deserve to exit from
submarines
> at 500 feet using Draeger gear. Good luck, dudes.
>
> Andrew Toppan should simply be launched from a Tomahawk tube. Of course,
at
> the final phase, he may not be cognizant of the control procedures.
>
> I''ll let Paul Adam select his fate.
>

Feeling a bit crusty today Arved?

Eugene Griessel

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"Sarah Hotdesking" <shart...@MAWAYshartwell.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>"Eugene Griessel" <eugene..@..dynagen..co..za> wrote in message
>news:425375d8...@news.uunet.co.za...
>> "BF Lake" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> >Since the Germans were entirely lacking in manganese bronze due to a
>> >little -known clause in the Treaty, they had to go with the casing-
>mounted
>> >compass, which you had to look at with a special periscope made of wood
>from
>> >the Black Forest. The repeater compass, in the after part of a U-boat's
>> >conning tower as shown in the link Peter provided, was miles from the OOW
>> >trying to see ahead, so it was never used, and besides it was wonky due
>to
>> >strange deviations (which U-boat officers also had, it is said.)
>>
>> I suggest Sarah immediately investigate these strange deviations and
>> report back asap. (The wearing of jackboots and fishnets cannot be
>> considered "deviations" amongst submariners).
>>
>Report back? With any luck they'll take me hostage and **** me senseless.

So? What are you waiting for?

Eugene L Griessel www.dynagen.co.za/eugene

If at first you don't succeed, give up; no use being a damn fool.

Sarah Hotdesking

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"Eugene Griessel" <eugene..@..dynagen..co..za> wrote in message
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Hello. This is Messybeast Auto-Answer. Sarah Hotdesking apologises that
she cannot answer your email or post at the present time. Her calendar
reports that her current location is %%held hostage by jackboot-and-fishnet
wearing submariners and being ****ed senseless (with added flagellation)%%
This is a %%multi-day appointment%% which finishes at %%August 2005%%.
Please call again after that time. Have a nice day.

Eugene Griessel

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Apr 6, 2005, 4:22:19 PM4/6/05
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"Sarah Hotdesking" <shart...@MAWAYshartwell.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

Sounds like you're already having a nice day. Some people get all the
luck.

Eugene L Griessel www.dynagen.co.za/eugene

The day Microsoft make something which doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners (Ernst Jan Plugge)

Arved Sandstrom

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"Peter Skelton" <skel...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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[ SNIP ]

> You've been taking Craig's sauce again, haven't you? And washing
> it down with sterno?

Who needs Sterno with that sauce?

AHS


Arved Sandstrom

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"Sarah Hotdesking" <shart...@MAWAYshartwell.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
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> "Arved Sandstrom" <asand...@accesswave.ca> wrote in message
> news:hGO4e.4848$vt1.3674@edtnps90...
> > I would put Fred in there, but it would be a humane structure. It would
> be
> > a warm torpedo tube with plenty of food...I want the Mk 27 Mod 3 Fred
> McCall
> > submersible suicide torpedo to be comfortable. Perhaps his pet chihuihua
> > could be with him too, in a small animal capsule with a secondary
> explosive
> > charge.
> >
> > Jack Linthicum has been enough of a pest that I'd have him on an
> > experimental rocket, pissing his pants. Knowing that the last five
rockets
> > blew up.
> >
> > Peter (both of them - Skelton and McLelland) deserve to exit from
> submarines
> > at 500 feet using Draeger gear. Good luck, dudes.
> >
> > Andrew Toppan should simply be launched from a Tomahawk tube. Of
course,
> at
> > the final phase, he may not be cognizant of the control procedures.
> >
> > I''ll let Paul Adam select his fate.
> >
>
> Feeling a bit crusty today Arved?

It's been a two-week patrol in Paraguay, and hygiene was not good - one
wishes not to enter the rivers for fear of being eaten by various things.
So, yes, I am Crusty the Clown.

AHS


Arved Sandstrom

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"Sarah Hotdesking" <shart...@MAWAYshartwell.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
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> "Eugene Griessel" <eugene..@..dynagen..co..za> wrote in message
> news:425375d8...@news.uunet.co.za...
> > "BF Lake" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > >Since the Germans were entirely lacking in manganese bronze due to a
> > >little -known clause in the Treaty, they had to go with the casing-
> mounted
> > >compass, which you had to look at with a special periscope made of wood
> from
> > >the Black Forest. The repeater compass, in the after part of a
U-boat's
> > >conning tower as shown in the link Peter provided, was miles from the
OOW
> > >trying to see ahead, so it was never used, and besides it was wonky due
> to
> > >strange deviations (which U-boat officers also had, it is said.)
> >
> > I suggest Sarah immediately investigate these strange deviations and
> > report back asap. (The wearing of jackboots and fishnets cannot be
> > considered "deviations" amongst submariners).
> >
> Report back? With any luck they'll take me hostage and **** me senseless.

You mean they will feed you so much bangers and mash, and tea, that you will
fall asleep?

AHS


BF Lake

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"Arved Sandstrom" <asand...@accesswave.ca> wrote in message
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> > > >trying to see ahead, so it was never used, and besides it was wonky
due
> > to
> > > >strange deviations (which U-boat officers also had, it is said.)
> > >
> > > I suggest Sarah immediately investigate these strange deviations and
> > > report back asap. (The wearing of jackboots and fishnets cannot be
> > > considered "deviations" amongst submariners).
> > >
> > Report back? With any luck they'll take me hostage and **** me
senseless.
>
> You mean they will feed you so much bangers and mash, and tea, that you
will
> fall asleep?

It seems to be the right time again for the traditional smn mention of
Spotted Dick.

Regards,
Barry


Sarah Hotdesking

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"Arved Sandstrom" <asand...@accesswave.ca> wrote in message
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Even that would be agreeable. Right now I'm munching my way through acres
of vegetables and healthy stuff in an attempt to follow doctor's orders re
losing weight and reducing blood pressure (I don't do tablets).

Sarah Hotdesking

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"BF Lake" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Where was it spotted? GPS please!

Peter Skelton

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Without Sterno, you fart a nice, gentle flame you can use to
light cigarettes. The unsqueamish, ex-marines come to mind, have
been known to toast marshmallows on it.

Add sterno, you get something between a reailraod's weed-burner
and a WWII flame-thrower. Use a taper, not a match to touch it
off.

It's a shame Sarah's off on an ash-hauling expedition, I'm sure
she could think of a practical application.

Peter Skelton

Ogden Johnson III

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eugene..@..dynagen..co..za (Eugene Griessel) wrote:

>"Sarah Hotdesking" <shart...@MAWAYshartwell.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>>> >Report back? With any luck they'll take me hostage and **** me
>>senseless.

>>> So? What are you waiting for?

>>Hello. This is Messybeast Auto-Answer. Sarah Hotdesking apologises that
>>she cannot answer your email or post at the present time. Her calendar
>>reports that her current location is %%held hostage by jackboot-and-fishnet
>>wearing submariners and being ****ed senseless (with added flagellation)%%
>>This is a %%multi-day appointment%% which finishes at %%August 2005%%.
>>Please call again after that time. Have a nice day.

>Sounds like you're already having a nice day. Some people get all the
>luck.

You misspelled ****s, Eugene.

HTH. HAND.

;->

Jack Love

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Apr 7, 2005, 4:02:06 AM4/7/05
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While mortification is probably good for the soul, I recommend
tablets! Though I didn't actually need BP reduction by the usual
measures (my MD claims chronic migraines increase chances of
stroke and cardiac 'incident') I currently get some place around
100/65 ish after doing my 20 minutes of body mortification. It's
better to be quicker to the result than deader and sorrier.

And it's amazingly cheap.

Sarah Hotdesking

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"Peter Skelton" <skel...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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Ash-hauling or hauling my ass somewhere?

Sarah Hotdesking

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"Peter Skelton" <skel...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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Believe me, with the amount of fibre I'm supposed to be eating, it's
probably not wise for me to stand anywhere near a naked flame! To toast
marshmallows would seem to require either a sustained flame or a blowtorch.

I am reliably informed that one should wear underpants when allowing one's
emissions to be ignited, unless one is aboslutely certain of high pressure
and instant cessation. Otherwise there is a problem of the "Greek fire"[1]
tracking back and scorching the, er, sphincter. The gold standard is the
ability to scorch a "tudor rose" design on a wall (see Spike Milligan's war
memoirs for further information). Of course, I have never participated in
such events, but I am reliably advised that they can be impressive.

[1] derivation as per "Greek style"

Peter Skelton

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On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:44:10 +0100, "Sarah Hotdesking"
<shart...@MAWAYshartwell.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>"Peter Skelton" <skel...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 20:27:18 GMT, "Arved Sandstrom"
>> <asand...@accesswave.ca> wrote:
>>
>> >"Peter Skelton" <skel...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>> >news:joi751925ucdt50kh...@4ax.com...
>> >[ SNIP ]
>> >> You've been taking Craig's sauce again, haven't you? And washing
>> >> it down with sterno?
>> >
>> >Who needs Sterno with that sauce?
>> >
>> Without Sterno, you fart a nice, gentle flame you can use to
>> light cigarettes. The unsqueamish, ex-marines come to mind, have
>> been known to toast marshmallows on it.
>>
>> Add sterno, you get something between a reailraod's weed-burner
>> and a WWII flame-thrower. Use a taper, not a match to touch it
>> off.
>>
>> It's a shame Sarah's off on an ash-hauling expedition, I'm sure
>> she could think of a practical application.
>
>Ash-hauling or hauling my ass somewhere?

The first.

Peter Skelton

g lof2

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Sarah Hotdesking wrote:
> "old hoodoo" <alf...@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
> news:lFA4e.11$fn5.4@okepread01...
> >
> >
> > Eugene Griessel wrote:
> >
> > > Ok. Has everybody finished laughing? Right, here goes. On some
WW2
> > > German U-boats there was something, about the size of a largish
> > > dog-kennel, just forward of the conning tower. Sort of a rounded
dog
> > > kennel. I've never really paid much attention to the thing,
assuming
> > > it to be some sort of hydrophone stowage or a place for the
captain to
> > > store his private schnapps supply (or his dachshund). I acquired
> > > recently Das Boot on DVD. While the gang are underwater there
appears
> > > to be a hydrophone jobby emerging ahead of the gun. Which means
(if
> > > the director was as technically accurate as everybody says) that
the
> > > dog kennel as a hydrophone stowage seems less likely. So what
was
> > > this thing? No ribald comments please! (Sarah may ignore that).
> > >
> > > Eugene L Griessel www.dynagen.co.za/eugene
> > >

> > > The most sophisticated machine ever built by man has in it the
> > > inherent limitations of the human mind.
> >
> > That was indeed a dog house....for the "sea-dog".
> >
> Since Eugene invited my comment and you set up the joke ... if the
USTAFISH
> were to incorporate such a structure, it would be Fred's kennel! (Or
> alternatively the housing for USTAFISH's highly sophisticated alcohol
and
> totty detector.)
>
> --
I like to remind everybody that we do have a simular structure on the
USTAFISH already. It's the replacement for the crew head that was made
necessary by the old one exploding one night. ( Now I not naming names,
but we all know which group like making thing go boom don't we.)

Glenn Dowdy

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"g lof2" <glof...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1112899595.1...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

>
> I like to remind everybody that we do have a simular structure on the
> USTAFISH already. It's the replacement for the crew head that was made
> necessary by the old one exploding one night. ( Now I not naming names,
> but we all know which group like making thing go boom don't we.)
>
It's kinda a toss-up between the redlegs, the sappers and the torpedomen.

Glenn D.


Paul J. Adam

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Apr 8, 2005, 8:52:02 AM4/8/05
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In message <1112899595.1...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, g
lof2 <glof...@msn.com> writes

> I like to remind everybody that we do have a simular structure on the
>USTAFISH already. It's the replacement for the crew head that was made
>necessary by the old one exploding one night. ( Now I not naming names,
>but we all know which group like making thing go boom don't we.)

It's called "the crew"... who aboard _doesn't_ like pyrotechnics,
demolitions and other explosive events? (Even Sarah H. seems determined
to prove some sort of Big Bang theory...)
--
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
Julius Caesar I:2

Paul J. Adam MainBox<at>jrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk

Sarah Hotdesking

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"Paul J. Adam" <ne...@jrwlynch.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <1112899595.1...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, g
> lof2 <glof...@msn.com> writes
> > I like to remind everybody that we do have a simular structure on the
> >USTAFISH already. It's the replacement for the crew head that was made
> >necessary by the old one exploding one night. ( Now I not naming names,
> >but we all know which group like making thing go boom don't we.)
>
> It's called "the crew"... who aboard _doesn't_ like pyrotechnics,
> demolitions and other explosive events? (Even Sarah H. seems determined
> to prove some sort of Big Bang theory...)

Was that the explosion that occurred halfway through the inter-disciplinary
fart-lighting contest (it followed the palate-incinerating chilli cook-off)?
Now I won't name names, but we declared that explosion/conflagration the
winner.

Fred J. McCall

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"Sarah Hotdesking" <shart...@MAWAYshartwell.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

:Since Eugene invited my comment and you set up the joke ... if the USTAFISH


:were to incorporate such a structure, it would be Fred's kennel! (Or
:alternatively the housing for USTAFISH's highly sophisticated alcohol and
:totty detector.)

So either way it's mine, right? :-)


Sarah Hotdesking

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"Fred J. McCall" <fmc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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If you say so, dear. Do try to keep it tidy.

g lof2

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Yes it did occure then, but was not done "naturally". The story is that
a member of SecDet, knowing the advantage our torpedomates/brewers had,
tried to cheat by injesting certain chemicals used in "rocket fuel".
They did work, but result in the head being destroyed, and he being the
first crewmember to orbit the Earth.

Fred J. McCall

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"Arved Sandstrom" <asand...@accesswave.ca> wrote:

: I would put Fred in there, but it would be a humane structure. It would be


:a warm torpedo tube with plenty of food...I want the Mk 27 Mod 3 Fred McCall
:submersible suicide torpedo to be comfortable. Perhaps his pet chihuihua
:could be with him too, in a small animal capsule with a secondary explosive
:charge.

Nah, need a much bigger animal capsule. He's not a chihuihua. He's a
Norwegian Elkhound.

Must be time for you to visit the optometrist.


Klaus Petrat

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Ogden Johnson III

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Klaus Petrat <kla...@t-online.de> wrote:

>

Besides having a computer that produces invisible print, Klaus's
computer is a time machine.

Ogden Johnson III

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Ogden Johnson III <oj3...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Klaus Petrat <kla...@t-online.de> wrote:

>>eugene..@..dynagen..co..za (Eugene Griessel) wrote:

>>>Ok. Has everybody finished laughing? Right, here goes. On some WW2
>>>German U-boats there was something, about the size of a largish
>>>dog-kennel, just forward of the conning tower. Sort of a rounded dog
>>>kennel. I've never really paid much attention to the thing, assuming
>>>it to be some sort of hydrophone stowage or a place for the captain to
>>>store his private schnapps supply (or his dachshund). I acquired
>>>recently Das Boot on DVD. While the gang are underwater there appears
>>>to be a hydrophone jobby emerging ahead of the gun. Which means (if
>>>the director was as technically accurate as everybody says) that the
>>>dog kennel as a hydrophone stowage seems less likely. So what was
>>>this thing? No ribald comments please! (Sarah may ignore that).

>>

>Besides having a computer that produces invisible print, Klaus's
>computer is a time machine.

Make that "Wow, Klaus has a computer that produces invisible
print.", and ignore the rest, resulting from a brain fart in
mentally translating the 16:34 of the local 24-hour time display
in my copy of Agent as a 12-hour 6:34 PM time.

The Lagavulin the boss was buying at happy hour was fine. And in
ample supply.

Glenn Dowdy

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"Ogden Johnson III" <oj3...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> The Lagavulin the boss was buying at happy hour was fine. And in
> ample supply.

Very jealous.

Glenn D.


Klaus Petrat

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Apr 15, 2005, 1:54:29 PM4/15/05
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:08:14 GMT, eugene..@..dynagen..co..za (Eugene
Griessel) wrote:

>Ok. Has everybody finished laughing? Right, here goes. On some WW2
>German U-boats there was something, about the size of a largish
>dog-kennel, just forward of the conning tower. Sort of a rounded dog
>kennel. I've never really paid much attention to the thing, assuming
>it to be some sort of hydrophone stowage or a place for the captain to
>store his private schnapps supply (or his dachshund). I acquired
>recently Das Boot on DVD. While the gang are underwater there appears
>to be a hydrophone jobby emerging ahead of the gun. Which means (if
>the director was as technically accurate as everybody says) that the
>dog kennel as a hydrophone stowage seems less likely. So what was
>this thing? No ribald comments please! (Sarah may ignore that).

Everybody should have a second chance even for really ribald comments,
so let's try again:

This ominous thing in front of the tower was most important for
relaxing, since it was used as a seat, if the boat was surfaced. Its
second purpose, due to a drawing of a VIIc boat I have available, it
was a containment for the magnetic compass.

--
Best regards
Klaus Petrat

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