I have canceled my internet account so I am not spending mucho bucks
for nothing and am likely to change providers when I get back to a
more reasonable cost expenditure than my present wallet vacuum. If
anyone needs to e-mail me when I am gone you can use:
My webpage and present e-mail address are shutdown. INSG projects such
as the Facilities database will be completed on my return.
I will post a few more articles and respond until about 1000 hours
tomorrow. See you all in a couple of months.
Tim McFeely
Looking forward to 'Diving Officer, submerge the ship' one more
time....
> Tomorrow, with a full seabag, I climb down the hatch of a certain USN
> SSN and head to sea. First time in a couple of years. After a few
> weeks of work-up and weapons shooting, we will stop for some warshots
> and then onwards to places unknown (well I know, but I ain't telling).
> I am looking forward to riding with not a whole lot to do, but conduct
> some tests and play a lot of spades.
>
Lucky Bastard, I can smell the oil now. And I bet you're getting
per-diem too... Bring me back a cup of black'n'bitter ;)
BlackBeard
-. .- -..- --.-
De Profundis
fair winds and following seas.
shit. need any extra messcranks?
.max
who sometimes wishes he was still in...
>Tomorrow, with a full seabag, I climb down the hatch of a certain USN
>SSN and head to sea. First time in a couple of years. After a few
>weeks of work-up and weapons shooting, we will stop for some warshots
>and then onwards to places unknown (well I know, but I ain't telling).
>I am looking forward to riding with not a whole lot to do, but conduct
>some tests and play a lot of spades.
>I have canceled my internet account so I am not spending mucho bucks
>for nothing and am likely to change providers when I get back to a
>more reasonable cost expenditure than my present wallet vacuum. If
>anyone needs to e-mail me when I am gone you can use:
>My webpage and present e-mail address are shutdown. INSG projects such
>as the Facilities database will be completed on my return.
>I will post a few more articles and respond until about 1000 hours
>tomorrow. See you all in a couple of months.
>Tim McFeely
>Looking forward to 'Diving Officer, submerge the ship' one more
>time....
Sorry, underway has been postponed until 3/18 because the nukes broke
the hibatchi. Maybe some of you nuke types can help me. There was a
parade of braid and intellectual looking sandcrabs heading for ERLL
forward (688 class). Feed pumps maybe?? I forget what the hell else is
down there other than HP air dehydration stuff, bunch of pumps and
shit, sampling station, and them neat reactor periscopes!!!!. What
else? Yeah, scratch my ERLL sig for the front part. I can remember
most of the TG Lube oil, MSW/ASW bays, and that other square looking
lube oil thingie for the main engines and reduction gears, ohh yeah
the PLO bay.
Tim McFeely
Still looking forward to 'Diving Officer, submerge the ship' one more
time....
regards
Ron Hanks
> tim...@mail.usa.net (Tim McFeely) wrote:
> >Tomorrow, with a full seabag, I climb down the hatch of a certain USN
> >SSN and head to sea.
> >
> Snip, snip, snip
> >
> >Tim McFeely
> >
>
> Take care and have a good cruise!
>
> Regards
> Bob Keeter>
Agreed (snip) and speaking of that are you going to get a cruise haircut?
Sam
ex-EM2
CV-62 (going out in style?)
All right, NOW I'm getting worried. You all had me convinced that
the China think would blow over and now we get:
- deployments to the Taiwan area,
- Pearl Harbor is reported "empty",
and
- now Tim disappears on a sub.
Coincidence? I think not!
If Arved disappears I'm gonna panic :-)
Safe voyage, Tim.
> Tomorrow, with a full seabag, I climb down the hatch of a certain
> USN SSN and head to sea ...
"Haze gray and underway" has a wonderful ring, but what exactly does
it mean? Is it traditional, or did Mr McFeely invent it?
--Robert Almgren
alm...@math.uchicago.edu
: "Haze gray and underway" has a wonderful ring, but what exactly does
: it mean? Is it traditional, or did Mr McFeely invent it?
: --Robert Almgren
: alm...@math.uchicago.edu
It's a traditional description of the normal surface-ship (target) Navy.
Mr. McFeeley did not make up the phrase.
Ron Miller
(One ship, one crew - the Black & Blue)
>In article <DoCGL...@ridgecrest.ca.us>, Bob Keeter
><b_ke...@owens.ridgecrest.ca.us> wrote:
>> tim...@mail.usa.net (Tim McFeely) wrote:
>> >Tomorrow, with a full seabag, I climb down the hatch of a certain USN
>> >SSN and head to sea.
>> >
>> Snip, snip, snip
>> >
>> >Tim McFeely
>> >
>>
>> Take care and have a good cruise!
>>
>> Regards
>> Bob Keeter>
>Agreed (snip) and speaking of that are you going to get a cruise haircut?
>Sam
>ex-EM2
>CV-62 (going out in style?)
That depends!!!! My hair is probably shorter than most of the crew to
begin with, but I'll be damned if I shave off my beard!!!
Scope's under...
Tim McFeely
ex-TM2(SS)...a dying breed
tim...@mail.usa.net
INSG web pages at http://www.webcom.com/~amraam/insg.html
and http://www.usa.net/~timmcf/insgmain.html
> tim...@mail.usa.net (Tim McFeely) writes:
> > Tomorrow, with a full seabag, I climb down the hatch of a certain USN
> > SSN and head to sea. First time in a couple of years.[...]
> > Tim McFeely
> >
> > Looking forward to 'Diving Officer, submerge the ship' one more
> > time....
>All right, NOW I'm getting worried. You all had me convinced that
>the China think would blow over and now we get:
>- deployments to the Taiwan area,
>- Pearl Harbor is reported "empty",
>and
>- now Tim disappears on a sub.
>Coincidence? I think not!
>If Arved disappears I'm gonna panic :-)
>Safe voyage, Tim.
Thanks. Not to worry, wrong ocean, but I do agree about Arved. Also,
someone holler long and hard if Harold enlists while I am gone!!!!
Thoughts?
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"It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word."
And don't forget the fast attack guy's motto:
"Fast and black and never come back"
(referring to large amounts of at sea time)
:-)
Jim Petroski NASA/Lewis Research Center
Space Experiments Dept. Cleveland OH
ADF, Inc. / SETAR Team email: jpet...@lerc.nasa.gov
PHaSE Project -- Physics of Hard Spheres Experiment
The above views are my own and not ADF/SETAR Team/NASA's.
V/R,
Cliff
Cogito, ergo, zoom.
I think, therefore I speed.
>"Haze gray and underway" has a wonderful ring, but what exactly does
>it mean? Is it traditional, or did Mr McFeely invent it?
We used that expression ten years ago on
the 'PRISE.
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It only applies to part of the Navy. I guess it depends on whether you
will be covering aircraft, submarines, SEALs, and the Marines too.......
How about "To Hell and Back on a Fast Attack" ?
Has a ring to it, doncha think? :-))
Ron Miller
Hows about "Sea Power"?
> Eureka! I have found it! :)
> I've been looking for a better name for the navy section of my
> homepage--"Navy Pages" is rather drab--and I think "Haze gray and
> underway" may be just the ticket....
>
> Thoughts?
>
Subs equivelant
"Fast attack black and never come back"
..always at sea
in addition to being appropriate! I always had a hell of a time explaining
to folks that just because we were back from deployment didn't mean we
weren't underway again. We averaged being under weigh 60-70% of the time
that we weren't forward-deployed.
This is but one of many similar sayings we used to mumble from time to time.
There were others, and variations on a theme. Here's some (help me out on
this, guys!)
"Haze gray and under way, fossil fuel, the only way."
"Surface Line, Mighty Fine" quickly became "Surface Line, wasted time."
"If you can't stab your buddy in the back, you don't belong in Surface
Warfare."
two "Fly Navy" bumper stickers could be made into one "Fly Away Navy" bumper
sticker.
And the all-time favorite chant: "We love it here, we love it here,
****ing A we love it here!"
U.S. Navy--200 years of tradition unblemished with progress.
8-)
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A liberal doesn't want you to have a gun, so that he or she
will feel safe.
A conservative doesn't care what you have, as long as he
or she feels safe.
>Sorry, underway has been postponed until 3/18 because the nukes
>broke the hibatchi.
Knock off the HiBitching Bubblehead! You've still got it a lot
better than the poor SOB's that gotta fix the darned thing.
Hold that bubble,
--
A to Z * Age and Treachery
* will always prevail
* Over Youth and Vigor
I agree about Harold.
I'm quite OK. I'm geographically separated, and anyway, I'm working on
techniques to use "noise hole" technology to locate your subs right now.
Once I've done this, Paul Jonathan Adam can fire a Spearfish. When it
hits, Blackbeard can use the string technique (for about 2 milliseconds)
and give the newbies a thrill.
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I like it!
-- DLH "Warhammer"
+"Haze gray" was the desired color of exhaust from your boilers - not too
+black and not too white. Kind of overshadowed today by colorless gas
+turbine exhaust! Also doubt Mr. McFeely's sub put out too much haze gray!
+ It is a colorful saying, though (pun intended).
When burning black oil, you want the stack gases as clear as possible for
efficiency. Period.
Nick
W.E. Nichols Christopher Columbus was a great navigator who
w...@infi.net discovered America cursing the Atlantic
Gotcha, Nick. A light brown haze from the stacks means burning at max
efficiency. The bird farms you were on didn't like that though, so they
steamed with clear stacks. Clear stacks are an indication of excess air,
which carries away heat, which reduces efficiency.
Dick OKeefe
+W.E. Nichols (w...@infi.net) wrote:
+: cphil...@aol.com (CPhill6149) Banged on the keyboard and wrote:
+
+: +"Haze gray" was the desired color of exhaust from your boilers - not too
+: +black and not too white. Kind of overshadowed today by colorless gas
+: +turbine exhaust! Also doubt Mr. McFeely's sub put out too much haze gray!
+: + It is a colorful saying, though (pun intended).
+
+: When burning black oil, you want the stack gases as clear as possible for
+: efficiency. Period.
+
+: Nick
+: W.E. Nichols Christopher Columbus was a great navigator who
+: w...@infi.net discovered America cursing the Atlantic
+
+Gotcha, Nick. A light brown haze from the stacks means burning at max
+efficiency. The bird farms you were on didn't like that though, so they
+steamed with clear stacks. Clear stacks are an indication of excess air,
+which carries away heat, which reduces efficiency.
Maybe. Beings that I am not a BT I can't dispute you. However comma the
stack watch will get his face ripped off by the Air Boss is the color of
smoke is not to his satisfaction. Clear, most of the time except when
changing speeds.
The colored stack gases is an indication of incomplete burning of the fuel.
Your stement does not compute.
Nick
W.E. Nichols Chelsea asked her dad, "Do all fairy tales begin with once upon
w...@infi.net a time...?" Bill Clinton replied, "No. Some begin with 'After I'm
elected...'"
Does so :) Maximum power tends to be found at slightly rich fuel-air mixtures.
Maximum efficiency, at slightly lean mix.
--
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him. You have offered a definite answer to a definite problem. For better
or for worse, you have acted decisively.
In fact, the next move is up to him." <R.A. Lafferty>
Paul J. Adam pa...@jrwlynch.demon.co.uk
"Haze gray and underway" is a expression to denote the "REAL" Navy,
related to "Sailors belong on ships, and ships belong at sea".
Real ships are long and pointy, stay on top of the water, and don't
allow airplanes to play on the roof!
--
Bob McKellar - Former Pork Chop, Uncle Sam's Tin Can Navy
> "Haze gray and underway" is a expression to denote the "REAL" Navy,
> related to "Sailors belong on ships, and ships belong at sea".
> Real ships are long and pointy, stay on top of the water, and don't
> allow airplanes to play on the roof!
And has two rows of gunports along the sides?
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+ w...@infi.net "W.E. Nichols" writes:
+> The colored stack gases is an indication of incomplete burning of the fuel.
+> Your stement does not compute.
+
+Does so :) Maximum power tends to be found at slightly rich fuel-air mixtures.
+Maximum efficiency, at slightly lean mix.
My initial statement was "When burning black oil, you want the stack gases
as clear as possible for efficiency. Period."
At the beginning this thread was titled "Haze gray and underway, or Jet
Black and coming back". This refers to the only two types of ships there
are; Submarines and Targets, the targets generally being painted haze
gray.
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Over Youth and Vigor. DBF!!!
Sounds good to me. Although I will accept one row of gunports. There has
not been a _real_ USN ship at sea since the Constitution. Like there
has not been a _real_ marine since Tripoli.
regards
Ron Hanks
On Sun, 31 Mar 1996, "Woody" wrote:
> c...@sava.gulfnet.com,
>
> Back off, pal. They're not called ships, they're boats, and there're
> only two kinds: (1) aircraft carriers and (2) targets.
You're mistaken in thinking that the submarine community will allow you
to say that and escape.
> When the NCA dials 911 emergency, the first question they ask isn't
> "where're the frigates" or "where're the destroyers." They want to know
> where the carriers are.
Right behind the subs, who have to watch their asses.
>I dunno about now, but when I was in
>Machinist's Mate A School at Great Mistakes,
>my instructor made it quite plain that any
>ship HE ever sailed in had better not have
>ANY gray in that stack gas, or there'd be
>heck to pay!
Late in the summer of 1962, I was an MM striker working in the forward
engine room of USS Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. (DD850), homeported at Newport
RI. The then-President and his entourage allegedly were at the family
compound as we transited the channel inbound for the first time after a
Gitmo shakedown -- and experienced a fuel-air mixture foul-up of the sort
that expelled a *HUGE* cloud of very black smoke. Whether JFK actually
noticed the smoke is open to question. But the bridge sure saw it - -
speaking of *heck* to pay.
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causes.''
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+Nick Nichols fingered:
+
+>> There was one destroyer in the TF who stood out. Black smoke coming
+from her stack [...etc., snip] Then from the Tin Can comes the William
+Tell Overture. [...snip] <<
+
+ Do you recall what ship this was??
I tried, but it was a long time ago. We had kinda a special relationship
with this particular can. This wasn't the only "hot shot can." Others had
pieces of music they played on break away. Then you had the Sara who played
the "Rooster Crow" just before passing the word to standby for shot lines.
Nick
: Late in the summer of 1962, I was an MM striker working in the forward
: engine room of USS Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. (DD850), homeported at Newport
: RI. The then-President and his entourage allegedly were at the family
: compound as we transited the channel inbound for the first time after a
Slight problem here: the Kennedy family compound is in Massachusetts,
nowhere near Newport.
Andrew Toppan noted:
>: Late in the summer of 1962, I was an MM striker working in the forward
>: engine room of USS Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. (DD850), homeported at
>Newport
>: RI. The then-President and his entourage allegedly were at the family
>: compound as we transited the channel inbound for the first time after a
>Slight problem here: the Kennedy family compound is in Massachusetts,
>nowhere near Newport.
No problem, actually. When you're rich, you can have *lots* of compounds.
The Kennedy's have Hyannis, of course. In the early 60's, they also had a
mansion (okay, technically not a compound) at Newport overlooking the
channel. (JFK and Jackie were married in Newport, BTW). And the great man
himself embarked in the DD850 to watch at least one installment of the
1962 America's Cup races.
Cheers.
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We used to have Marines hanging on the rails, watching an UNREP in
fascination. I've got some beautiful pictures.
We had betting games going on whether the sailor would nail the
replenishment ship with the shot line. And if it did, where would the
weight go.
There was this one ship, when we were in the North Arabian Sea, the CO
of the ship would put this gorgeous little girl (I mean, _well_ endowed)
out on the bridge wing, and let her do the coordination and signalling.
After a while, since 1000 binoculars and weapons sights were already
trained on her, and she knew it, she'd give up, and just start waving
and smiling. Hell, even our boat's CO would be glued to the binos, and
he was happily married. He was grabbing them from the air spotter.
You know, they played something too when they broke away. Is doing this
tradition?
Yes, for those that bother. Also break battle flags, go fast, do all that "Gee, whiz" stuff. This leads to some
interesting combinations:
The Ark (USS ARKANSAS) playing "Wild Thing" as she breaks aways and does a 25+ knot turn
right_across_the_bows_ of the UNREP ship and us (USS TEXAS). USS CAMDEN playing the _entire_ "Fanfare
for the Common Man" and still not being clear of the bow.
On SoCar, we got away with using AC/DC once. The XO did not know what the song was....
(I had been looking for "Take this job and shove it," but no one had a copy.)
My first CO wanted the rudder-in-the-stops manuever - looks neat. Nothing like a 25+ knot 30 degree turn
200 yards away to make the AOE OOD really not like driving the dump truck he's got. My next CO refused to
let me do that radical a departure. I figure, built like a sports car, drive it like one.
--
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Phases of a Project:
1 -- Exultation
2 -- Disenchantment
3 -- Search for the Guilty
4 -- Punishment of the Innocent
5 -- Praise for the Uninvolved
- Anon.
+You know, they played something too when they broke away. Is doing this
+tradition?
I wouldn't say tradition, but it it done frequently for effect.
Most ships play a breakaway song as they accelerate away from unrep. My
ship (USS Chandler DDG-996) didn't use one--with our gas turbine engines we
accelerated away so fast, we wouldn't'a had time for more than the first
verse anyway. My favorite part of the breakaway was when we'd go full
rudder in a turn away at 25+ knots just as soon as our stern passed the
unrep ship's bow (yes, we accelerated that fast!). We'd have the Bosun's
Mate of the Watch pass the word to "Stand by for heavy rolls while
maneuvering", over the helm would go, and you could watch the inclinometer
roll on over to 30-35 degrees. That's why the gas turbine ships have a
handhold cable running the width of the pilothouse.
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The reason the battle of the sexes will never be won is that
it's so much fun fraternizing with the enemy.
> Most ships play a breakaway song as they accelerate away from unrep. My
> ship (USS Chandler DDG-996) didn't use one--with our gas turbine engines we
> accelerated away so fast, we wouldn't'a had time for more than the first
> verse anyway. My favorite part of the breakaway was when we'd go full
> rudder in a turn away at 25+ knots just as soon as our stern passed the
> unrep ship's bow (yes, we accelerated that fast!). We'd have the Bosun's
> Mate of the Watch pass the word to "Stand by for heavy rolls while
> maneuvering", over the helm would go, and you could watch the inclinometer
> roll on over to 30-35 degrees. That's why the gas turbine ships have a
> handhold cable running the width of the pilothouse.
>
> Jeff
Hey, us steam ships got one o' them too. Serves more use in heavy seas, though.
PS: steam will also get you to 25+ at the bow.......
GZ
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>Subject: Re: Haze gray and underway
>Bruce Lewis <bc...@deltanet.com> wrote:
>Late in the summer of 1962, I was an MM striker working in the forward
>engine room of USS Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. (DD850), homeported at Newport
>RI. The then-President and his entourage allegedly were at the family
>compound as we transited the channel inbound for the first time after a
>Gitmo shakedown -- and experienced a fuel-air mixture foul-up of the sort
>that expelled a *HUGE* cloud of very black smoke. Whether JFK actually
>noticed the smoke is open to question. But the bridge sure saw it - -
>speaking of *heck* to pay.
Seem to remember waaaaay back when an anecdote in the _Reader's
Digest_ "Humor in Uniform" section. Seems POTUS JFK was touring
a boat.
At one point he stopped and asked the captain, "Are all of
your men wearing socks?" The captain, of course, replied in the
affirmative.
JFK then pointed out one of the men who wasn't wearing socks.
Before the captain could come up with a reply, JFK added,
"Of course, I could never get McGillicudy to wear socks, either."
Joe Bednorz The Lurking Horror
: We used to have Marines hanging on the rails, watching an UNREP in
: fascination. I've got some beautiful pictures.
: We had betting games going on whether the sailor would nail the
: replenishment ship with the shot line. And if it did, where would the
: weight go.
: There was this one ship, when we were in the North Arabian Sea, the CO
: of the ship would put this gorgeous little girl (I mean, _well_ endowed)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: out on the bridge wing, and let her do the coordination and signalling.
: After a while, since 1000 binoculars and weapons sights were already
: trained on her, and she knew it, she'd give up, and just start waving
: and smiling. Hell, even our boat's CO would be glued to the binos, and
: he was happily married. He was grabbing them from the air spotter.
: You know, they played something too when they broke away. Is doing this
: tradition?
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Am I too old, or did other pre Women-on-Ships veterans initially think
"What the hell is a Sonargirl doing on the bridge wing during an unrep?"
when they first read Arved's post?
Dick OKeefe
You probably are too decrepit. But hell, you made do with what you had.
:-)
Did you use optical magnification as well?
> In article <4k31gl$8...@nntpa.cb.att.com> r...@alux1.cnet.att.com (Richard O'Keefe) writes:
> >Arved Sandstrom (asnd...@renews.physics.mun.ca) wrote:
> >
> >
> >: There was this one ship, when we were in the North Arabian Sea, the CO
> >: of the ship would put this gorgeous little girl (I mean, _well_ endowed)
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >: out on the bridge wing, and let her do the coordination and signalling.
> >: After a while, since 1000 binoculars and weapons sights were already
> >: trained on her, and she knew it, she'd give up, and just start waving
> >: and smiling. Hell, even our boat's CO would be glued to the binos, and
> >: he was happily married. He was grabbing them from the air spotter.
> >
> >Am I too old, or did other pre Women-on-Ships veterans initially think
> >"What the hell is a Sonargirl doing on the bridge wing during an unrep?"
> >when they first read Arved's post?
> >
> >Dick OKeefe
>
> You probably are too decrepit. But hell, you made do with what you had.
> :-)
>
> Did you use optical magnification as well?
I think I know this ship, USS Walter S. Diehl, on of the newer Keizer
T-AO's. Around 1990? She was know as the "Big Diehl".
Well, actually, you may be right, Brian. Because the name is familiar,
and it was in late 1990.
But I can't say anyone was really looking for the name of the UNREP
ship. We were really looking for 1000x optics to try to read her
nametag.
Not to name names, but we were on the Raleigh at the time, and the
Captain's name started with McC and ended with y.
He wasn't the only perp, though. Two Marine LtCols (Bn CO's) were on
board, too. So, I hope their wives aren't reading, either. :-)
I didn't look at it too much either, it was the other oiler in the
PG/Arabian Sea. A real bummer too because when we unreped (They X-fer
fuel to us) EW's manned FWD lookout...On the Signal Bridge;-)....With the
"Big Eyes";-)
> Not to name names, but we were on the Raleigh at the time, and the
> Captain's name started with McC and ended with y.
>
> He wasn't the only perp, though. Two Marine LtCols (Bn CO's) were on
> board, too. So, I hope their wives aren't reading, either. :-)
Let me tell you about CarGru 2, a cell phone, and a nice scanner;-)......
Where's NIS when ya need 'em.
> That's why the gas turbine ships have a
> handhold cable running the width of the pilothouse.
The USS Semmes, USS Harry E. Yarnell, and USS Blue Ridge, steam ships
all, had that same handhold cable. Semmes was rumored to roll on wet
grass, but Blue Ridge was a smooth ride, and I never needed the cable.
On Yarnell, I went through the tail end of a hurricane, and found
myself dangling from that line at one point.
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>Back off, pal. They're not called ships, they're boats, and there're
>only two kinds: (1) aircraft carriers and (2) targets.
There's only two things that float, shit and the skimmer Navy!
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> In article <Dp4AM...@avalon.chinalake.navy.mil>, \"Woody\"
> <beal%a...@mr.chinalake.mil> writes:
>
>
> >Back off, pal. They're not called ships, they're boats, and there're
> >only two kinds: (1) aircraft carriers and (2) targets.
Spoken like a true Air Force Pilot.
ooops, sorry, you mean there's a difference between a Naval Aviator and an
AFP? Well, I'll be, I wonder if it's anything like the difference between
ships and boats?
Naval Tradition Lives!!! (except among brownshoes who insist on calling
ships boats). ;)
BlackBeard
-. .- -..- --.-
De Profundis
>P210 reshaped the electrons to say:
>
>: Late in the summer of 1962, I was an MM striker working in the forward
>: engine room of USS Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. (DD850), homeported at Newport
>: RI. The then-President and his entourage allegedly were at the family
>: compound as we transited the channel inbound for the first time after a
>
>Slight problem here: the Kennedy family compound is in Massachusetts,
>nowhere near Newport.
>
:He probably means Haversmith Farm (I believe). It was Jackie's family's
:estate. Toured it when I was in Neport in '94. It is on the approaches
:into
:the harbor.
You know, I think that is what I *do* mean. Man, the damage 35 years or so
can do to the old memory cells.
Cheers.
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