ACLU: Sex In Bathroom Stalls Is Private
D. Spencer Hines
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
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ACLU: Sex in Restroom Stalls Is Private
AP - Wednesday, January 16
ST. PAUL, Minn. - In an effort to help Sen. Larry Craig, the American Civil
Liberties Union is arguing that people who have sex in public bathrooms have
an expectation of privacy.
Craig, of Idaho, is asking the Minnesota Court of Appeals to let him
withdraw his guilty plea to disorderly conduct stemming from a bathroom sex
sting at the Minneapolis airport.
The ACLU filed a brief Tuesday supporting Craig. It cited a Minnesota
Supreme Court ruling 38 years ago that found that people who have sex in
closed stalls in public restrooms "have a reasonable expectation of
privacy."
That means the state cannot prove Craig was inviting an undercover officer
to have sex in public, the ACLU wrote.
The Republican senator was arrested June 11 by an undercover officer who
said Craig tapped his feet and swiped his hand under a stall divider in a
way that signaled he wanted sex. Craig has denied that, saying his actions
were misconstrued.
The ACLU argued that even if Craig was inviting the officer to have sex, his
actions wouldn't be illegal.
"The government cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Senator Craig
was inviting the undercover officer to engage in anything other than sexual
intimacy that would not have called attention to itself in a closed stall in
the public restroom," the ACLU wrote in its brief.
The ACLU also noted that Craig was originally charged with interference with
privacy, which it said was an admission by the state that people in the
bathroom stall expect privacy.
Craig at one point said he would resign but now says he will finish his
term, which ends in January 2009.
Eugene Griessel
>Hilarious!
Moenie worrie nie ou swaar. There are no females/males/shemales crazy
enough to have sex in a public restroom with you. You are quite safe.
Eugene L Griessel
I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize.
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Nik
Griessel) wrote:
>"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>
>>Hilarious!
>
>Moenie worrie nie ou swaar. There are no females/males/shemales crazy
>enough to have sex in a public restroom with you. You are quite safe.
How do you know?
Have you asked every female/male or shemale that question?
Nik
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Eugene Griessel
>On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:05:25 GMT, eugene@dynagen..co..za (Eugene
>Griessel) wrote:
>
>>"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hilarious!
>>
>>Moenie worrie nie ou swaar. There are no females/males/shemales crazy
>>enough to have sex in a public restroom with you. You are quite safe.
>
>How do you know?
>
>Have you asked every female/male or shemale that question?
Yep - the only one who said it might consider it was deaf, dumb and
blind. The guide dog objected violently to the suggestion though.
Eugene L Griessel
Eliminate government waste no matter how much it costs.
CWatters
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> Hilarious!
PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
Pepperoni
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Please do not perpetuate the troll. Trim the crossposts.
Nik
Griessel) wrote:
>Nik <repub...@email.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:05:25 GMT, eugene@dynagen..co..za (Eugene
>>Griessel) wrote:
>>
>>>"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hilarious!
>>>
>>>Moenie worrie nie ou swaar. There are no females/males/shemales crazy
>>>enough to have sex in a public restroom with you. You are quite safe.
>>
>>How do you know?
>>
>>Have you asked every female/male or shemale that question?
>
>Yep - the only one who said it might consider it was deaf, dumb and
>blind. The guide dog objected violently to the suggestion though.
I object to ad hominem arguments.
J A
> Hilarious!
>
> DSH
>
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> ACLU: Sex in Restroom Stalls Is Private
>
> AP - Wednesday, January 16
>
> ST. PAUL, Minn. - In an effort to help Sen. Larry Craig, the American Civil
> Liberties Union is arguing that people who have sex in public bathrooms have
> an expectation of privacy.
>
> Craig, of Idaho, is asking the Minnesota Court of Appeals to let him
> withdraw his guilty plea to disorderly conduct stemming from a bathroom sex
> sting at the Minneapolis airport.
>
> The ACLU filed a brief Tuesday supporting Craig. It cited a Minnesota
> Supreme Court ruling 38 years ago that found that people who have sex in
> closed stalls in public restrooms "have a reasonable expectation of
> privacy."
Damn. I was wondering why the coRuptican party chose Minnesota for
their convention.
Does the court have any rulings on sex crazed Congressmen breaking
into boys' dorms?
D. Spencer Hines
here -- as it deals with entirely different facts on the ground.
We'll see how this all plays out.
But the ACLU will defend all sorts of outrageous behavior -- including
encouraging teenage kids to use illegal drugs.
Andrew Chaplin
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> Nik <repub...@email.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:05:25 GMT, eugene@dynagen..co..za (Eugene
>>Griessel) wrote:
>>
>>>"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hilarious!
>>>
>>>Moenie worrie nie ou swaar. There are no females/males/shemales crazy
>>>enough to have sex in a public restroom with you. You are quite safe.
>>
>>How do you know?
>>
>>Have you asked every female/male or shemale that question?
>
> Yep - the only one who said it might consider it was deaf, dumb and
> blind. The guide dog objected violently to the suggestion though.
That's the essence of the punch line to an exceedingly bad joke I can no
longer tell. ;^(
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)
Dan
Sad to see a liberal organization defending your sorry ass, but that is
America for you...
Dan
Robert Peffers
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I cannot fathom what is meant by Bathroom Stalls?
Do they have public bathrooms in stalls in the USA?
I can well understand that people having a bath would want things to remain
private, though.
We have stalls in public water closets but that is somewhat different.
D. Spencer Hines
DSH
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Jeff
It appears you might be an expert on these as well as their
non-conventional uses!
The Highlander
> Some lawyers say the Minnesota Supreme Court ruling is really not operative
> here -- as it deals with entirely different facts on the ground.
>
> We'll see how this all plays out.
>
> But the ACLU will defend all sorts of outrageous behavior -- including
> encouraging teenage kids to use illegal drugs.
And acts of bestiality against innocent animals, no doubt.
What was their ruling on that - or are you lying low for the time
being?
awolfofillrepute
A WC is a Restroom, Bathroom, or even Washroom in the US. The
Bathroom terminology is usually used in the context of a private home
though. Restroom seems to be the most commonly used term in Public
Places. Some stalls have doors, some do not.
>
Personally I'd rather bath in public then take a dump.
--
"Oh bother," mummbled Pooh, as he chambered another round.
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Do`in it Woofy style since `73
awolfofillrepute
<pan...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>Some lawyers say the Minnesota Supreme Court ruling is really not operative
>here -- as it deals with entirely different facts on the ground.
>
I think it is the expectation of Privacy as far as taking a dump.
After all the purpose of a stall is to ensure privacy while taking a
dump or leak -- perhaps even changing clothes, but I don't think
anything about their innate design included sex. Otherwise they would
have put in fold-out beds.
>
>We'll see how this all plays out.
>
Badly.
>
>But the ACLU will defend all sorts of outrageous behavior -- including
>encouraging teenage kids to use illegal drugs.
>
I think their Motto is; The more outrageous the behavior the better"
>DSH
>
>Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>
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Eugene Griessel
>Personally I'd rather bath in public then take a dump.
Must have rather cramped your style as an infantryman in the desert!
Eugene L Griessel
Genius - the capacity for productive reaction against one's training.
BrianF
> I cannot fathom what is meant by Bathroom Stalls?
> Do they have public bathrooms in stalls in the USA?
> I can well understand that people having a bath would want things to
> remain private, though.
> We have stalls in public water closets but that is somewhat different.
>
they feel they need a bath. Their annoyance with my humour is no worse than
my annoyance with the ridiculous coyness of their name for a toilet.
In contrast, American public toilet cubicles always seem to be deliberately
manufactured with a fairly substantial gap on both edges of the door so the
"expectation of privacy" is null and void.
brianf
Eugene Griessel
>
>> I cannot fathom what is meant by Bathroom Stalls?
>> Do they have public bathrooms in stalls in the USA?
>> I can well understand that people having a bath would want things to
>> remain private, though.
>> We have stalls in public water closets but that is somewhat different.
>>
>When an American tells me they need to go to the bathroom, I always ask why
>they feel they need a bath. Their annoyance with my humour is no worse than
I'm usually far more blunt. I assume a puzzled expression and
earnestly enquire "you piss/crap in the bath?" when someone asks to
use the "bathroom".
Eugene L Griessel
Old age is when you find yourself using one bend-over
to pick up two things.
awolfofillrepute
Griessel) wrote:
>A Wolf of ill repute wrote:
>
>>Personally I'd rather bath in public then take a dump.
>
>Must have rather cramped your style as an infantryman in the desert!
>
Who said I was either an Infantryman, or in the Desert? Regardless,
even most Military Privy's have stalls.
>
>Eugene L Griessel
>
> Genius - the capacity for productive reaction against one's training.
>
> - I usually post only from Sci.Military.Naval -
awolfofillrepute
Griessel) wrote:
>"BrianF" <bk26...@skynet.be> wrote:
>
>>
>>> I cannot fathom what is meant by Bathroom Stalls?
>>> Do they have public bathrooms in stalls in the USA?
>>> I can well understand that people having a bath would want things to
>>> remain private, though.
>>> We have stalls in public water closets but that is somewhat different.
>>>
>>When an American tells me they need to go to the bathroom, I always ask why
>>they feel they need a bath. Their annoyance with my humour is no worse than
>
>I'm usually far more blunt. I assume a puzzled expression and
>earnestly enquire "you piss/crap in the bath?" when someone asks to
>use the "bathroom".
>
No more strange then why you would want to piss/crap in a closet, or
even put water in one. Oh, and exactly what is a "Loo", and why would
anyone want to go there?
--
"Oh bother," mummbled Pooh, as he chambered another round.
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__/o \_
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/ \
__ //\ \
__/o \-//--\ \_/
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|| \ |\ | \ |
_|| _||_|| _| |
Do`in it Woofy style since `73
awolfofillrepute
wrote:
Well imagine an Americans surprise when someone asks to go to the
"Loo" or WC. We aren't the only ones with any number of coynesses.
BTW -- Ya all still got a "Groom of the Stool"?
--
"Oh bother," mummbled Pooh, as he chambered another round.
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\____ \
/ \
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__/o \-//--\ \_/
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|| \ |\ | \ |
_|| _||_|| _| |
Do`in it Woofy style since `73
Eugene Griessel
>On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:54:54 GMT, eugene@dynagen..co..za (Eugene
>Griessel) wrote:
>
>>"BrianF" <bk26...@skynet.be> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> I cannot fathom what is meant by Bathroom Stalls?
>>>> Do they have public bathrooms in stalls in the USA?
>>>> I can well understand that people having a bath would want things to
>>>> remain private, though.
>>>> We have stalls in public water closets but that is somewhat different.
>>>>
>>>When an American tells me they need to go to the bathroom, I always ask why
>>>they feel they need a bath. Their annoyance with my humour is no worse than
>>
>>I'm usually far more blunt. I assume a puzzled expression and
>>earnestly enquire "you piss/crap in the bath?" when someone asks to
>>use the "bathroom".
>>
>No more strange then why you would want to piss/crap in a closet, or
>even put water in one. Oh, and exactly what is a "Loo", and why would
>anyone want to go there?
>--
One of the zillions of twee euphemisms for the item into which one
passes one's effluent. Derived from "Waterloo" - where poor old
Wellington no doubt did not have one. Strangely enough when it comes
to the scatological humankind is even more coy than when it comes to
human reproduction and the names for toilets/lavatories/thunder
boxes/water closests/etc are almost infinite. Why the term
"shithouse" is unacceptable in polite society is a real puzzle.
Eugene L Griessel
Intuition (n): an uncanny sixth sense which tells people
that they are right, whether they are or not.
Eugene Griessel
>On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:32:35 GMT, eugene@dynagen..co..za (Eugene
>Griessel) wrote:
>
>>A Wolf of ill repute wrote:
>>
>>>Personally I'd rather bath in public then take a dump.
>>
>>Must have rather cramped your style as an infantryman in the desert!
>>
>Who said I was either an Infantryman, or in the Desert? Regardless,
>even most Military Privy's have stalls.
In a fast moving war there is no time to build military privies. Even
the hessian and trench variety. It's a case of every man (or woman)
for themselves. I believe that during the 1st Gulf War a lot of
ladies suffered agonies trying to crouch below truck chassis in the
vain hope of some privacy while communing with nature. On of my
fondest memories is of a line of troops crouching down in a
featureless desert terrain each one with a roll of paper balanced on
their heads. (to prevent the stuff turning into sandpaper - which is
not conducive to wiping the tender parts!)
Eugene L Griessel
Intuition (n): an uncanny sixth sense which tells people
that they are right, whether they are or not.
- I usually post only from Sci.Military.Naval -
Eugene Griessel
>On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:42:31 +0100, "BrianF" <bk26...@skynet.be>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>> I cannot fathom what is meant by Bathroom Stalls?
>>> Do they have public bathrooms in stalls in the USA?
>>> I can well understand that people having a bath would want things to
>>> remain private, though.
>>> We have stalls in public water closets but that is somewhat different.
>>>
>>When an American tells me they need to go to the bathroom, I always ask why
>>they feel they need a bath. Their annoyance with my humour is no worse than
>>my annoyance with the ridiculous coyness of their name for a toilet.
>>In contrast, American public toilet cubicles always seem to be deliberately
>>manufactured with a fairly substantial gap on both edges of the door so the
>>"expectation of privacy" is null and void.
>>
>Well imagine an Americans surprise when someone asks to go to the
>"Loo" or WC. We aren't the only ones with any number of coynesses.
>
A loo or a water closet is somewhat descriptive of the receptacle to
be used. A bath is not.
Eugene L Griessel
Shotgun wedding - a case of Wife or Death.
David Biddulph
In the context of smn, surely the term is "heads"?
--
David Biddulph
Jeff
">>Personally I'd rather bath in public then take a dump.
>
> Must have rather cramped your style as an infantryman in the desert!
>
>
> Eugene L Griessel
"Never ask a man where he is going with a spade in the desert" Anthony
Quale, Ice Cold in Alex
Jeff
Eugene Griessel
Unfortunately that leaves landlubbers even more puzzled. The fact
that matelots used to hang their backsides over the side and shout
"heads" to warn their oppos not to stick a head out of the scuttle
less they collect an unexpected hair tonic notwithstanding!
Eugene L Griessel
Out of my mind. Back in five minutes.
La N
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Eugene? Wolfie? Do you guys wipe with *tissue*?
- nilita
Jack Linthicum
> "Eugene Griessel" <eugene@dynagen..co..za> wrote in message
>
> news:47947984...@news.uunet.co.za...
>
>
>
> >A Wolf of ill repute wrote:
>
> >>On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:54:54 GMT, eugene@dynagen..co..za (Eugene
> >>Griessel) wrote:
>
Just to clean the camera lens
Vince
particular you have an expectation that you can tell if someone is in
position to observe you. Observing with a hidden undisclosed camera is
a violation of privacy in such areas.
Vince
Vince
> "BrianF" <bk26...@skynet.be> wrote:
>
>>> I cannot fathom what is meant by Bathroom Stalls?
>>> Do they have public bathrooms in stalls in the USA?
>>> I can well understand that people having a bath would want things to
>>> remain private, though.
>>> We have stalls in public water closets but that is somewhat different.
>>>
>> When an American tells me they need to go to the bathroom, I always ask why
>> they feel they need a bath. Their annoyance with my humour is no worse than
>
> I'm usually far more blunt. I assume a puzzled expression and
> earnestly enquire "you piss/crap in the bath?" when someone asks to
> use the "bathroom".
>
Gee I was brought up to treat foreigners politely, even Brits
Vince
Vince
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:32:35 GMT, eugene@dynagen..co..za (Eugene
> Griessel) wrote:
>
>> A Wolf of ill repute wrote:
>>
>>> Personally I'd rather bath in public then take a dump.
>> Must have rather cramped your style as an infantryman in the desert!
>>
> Who said I was either an Infantryman, or in the Desert? Regardless,
> even most Military Privy's have stalls.
And the Privy Council? do they have stalls and paper too?
Vince
Vince
Except that in the States toilets were not routinely put in separate
rooms. In the 1880s Houses routinely had "bath" rooms (or Wash ups) into
which toilets were later installed
so it's descriptive of the room
Vince
Vince
no. the facilities were in the beak head of the ship
A beakhead is the protruding part of the foremost section of a sailing
ship. It was fitted on sailing vessels from the 16th to the 18th century
and served as a working platform by sailors working the sails of the
bowsprit, the forward-pointing mast that carries the spritsails. ....
The beakhead also housed the crew's toilets, which would drop refuse
straight into the sea without sullying the ship's hull unnecessarily.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beakhead
a matelot would have yelled gardy loo
In the meantime, the satirical pamphleteer, William Hogarth was drawing
London scenes with the contents of chamber pots being flung out of
upstairs windows and gutters full of effluvia running down the centre of
cobbled streets. The common cry when emptying a chamber pot into the
street was “garde l’eau.” (pronounced gardey loo). The English term
“Loo”, meaning toilet, is said to come from this expression.
http://www.allrite.ca/html/history_of_plumbing_and_draina.html
Vince
Eugene Griessel
Explain how the term "loo" which is a 20th century term evolved from a
a call that had been obsolete for centuries. Explain how the firm
that marketed sanitary appliances with the trademark "Waterloo"
from around the beginning of the 20th century was not involved.
Write to the Oxford English Dictionary and tell them they got it
wrong.
Eugene L Griessel
I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
Eugene Griessel
Who is talking about foreigners? I hope you don't jump to conclusions
like this in court.
Eugene L Griessel
BOSS - A personal dictator appointed to those of us
fortunate enough to live in free societies.
Bert Hyman
<bk26...@skynet.be> wrote:
> When an American tells me they need to go to the bathroom, I always
> ask why they feel they need a bath.
Are you selective in only pointing out the foibles of American English, or
do you make yourself a real pest and do the same for everyone?
I'm currently trying to figure out exactly what "whiteant" means when said
by an Australian.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
Vince
Explain how the firm
> that marketed sanitary appliances with the trademark "Waterloo"
> from around the beginning of the 20th century was not involved.
> Write to the Oxford English Dictionary and tell them they got it
> wrong.
you used the term matelot
which is a french term also
Vince
Vince
> Vince <fir...@firelaw.us> wrote:
>
>> Eugene Griessel wrote:
>>> "BrianF" <bk26...@skynet.be> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I cannot fathom what is meant by Bathroom Stalls?
>>>>> Do they have public bathrooms in stalls in the USA?
>>>>> I can well understand that people having a bath would want things to
>>>>> remain private, though.
>>>>> We have stalls in public water closets but that is somewhat different.
>>>>>
>>>> When an American tells me they need to go to the bathroom, I always ask why
>>>> they feel they need a bath. Their annoyance with my humour is no worse than
>>> I'm usually far more blunt. I assume a puzzled expression and
>>> earnestly enquire "you piss/crap in the bath?" when someone asks to
>>> use the "bathroom".
>>>
>> Gee I was brought up to treat foreigners politely, even Brits
>
> Who is talking about foreigners? I hope you don't jump to conclusions
> like this in court.
>
when a poster from skynet.be responds to a post about an American its a
fair inference
Vince
D. Spencer Hines
light British programmes tends to centre around the bathroom."
Tempest In A Chamber-pot...
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bathroom
[bath n.1]
A room containing a bath and often other toilet facilities. Hence also
euphem. for a lavatory.
1780 Coxe Russ. Disc. 99 An empty Russian dwelling, and near it a
bath-room. 1888 Barrie When a Man's Single xv. 242 What are politics when
the pipes in the bathroom burst? 1934 J. O'Hara Appointment in Samarra
(1935) iv. 108 Julian wanted to go to the bathroom after the dinner party
stood up, and on his way to the men's locker room he had to pass Mrs.
Gorman's table. 1946 ‘J. Tey’ Miss Pym Disposes ii. 9 It would show on the
bathroom scales at the end of the week, but who cared? 1956 A. Huxley
Adonis & Alphabet 260 The Prince of Venosa could never go to the bathroom
(cacare non poterat) unless he had first been flogged. 1960 Times 14 Sept.
12/7 It is necessary [in U.S.A.]+to realize just what a rest room or
bathroom is. I did find it odd+when told that a small day school+had a
bathroom on every floor. 1962 J. Braine Life at Top xiii. 144 The bathroom
cabinet crammed with eau-de-Cologne and talcum and bath salts. 1967 House &
Garden June 88/4 Bathroom scales+with magnified reading panel, 56s. 9d.
1968 Listener 22 Feb. 228/2 An unfortunate amount of the humour in other
light British programmes tends to centre around the bathroom.
OED, Second Edition
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DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
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Jeff
Termite ?
I've certainly seen it used as one word in that context.
Eugene Griessel
Whiteant usually used to mean, in Oz at any rate, an insane, mad or
eccentric person. White ants had got at his/her brain. Dunno what it
means these days though.
Seems to still be the meaning:
http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/nephandnaru/misc/ozziespeak.html
Eugene L Griessel
To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid,
you must also be well-mannered.
Eugene Griessel
Do you think we are wimps or something?
Eugene L Griessel
The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
Eugene Griessel
Do you think we are wimps or something?
Eugene L Griessel
The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
- I usually post only from Sci.Military.Naval -
Bert Hyman
That's what the words mean in the real world, but when I saw it, it
appeared as one word, as a verb: someone whiteanted someone else.
It seems from context to mean some kind of public humiliation.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23084610-2,00.html
Soldier 'handcuffed, assaulted with vibrator'
Mr Scudds said she was scared of Gurdulic but had no idea what
would happen when the unstable man arrived at her flat, angry
that his fellow soldier had "whiteanted" him and then made a
move on Clunies-Ross.
Eugene Griessel
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/white_ant
Eugene L Griessel
Give me ambiguity, or give me something else.
D. Spencer Hines
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
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loo, n.4
(lu;) [Etym. obscure.]
A privy, a lavatory. Also attrib. and Comb.
A. S. C. Ross's examination of possible sources in Blackw. Mag. (1974)
Oct. 309-16 is inconclusive: he favours derivation, in some manner that
cannot be demonstrated, from Waterloo.
[1922 Joyce Ulysses 556 O yes, mon loup. How much cost? Waterloo.
Watercloset. 1932 N. Mitford Christmas Pudding ix. 137 The absence in his
speech of such expressions as 'O.K. loo'+'we'll call it a day'.] 1940 I
Pigeon Pie ii. 27 In the night when you want to go to the loo. 1943 C.
Beaton in Horizon Jan. 37 They had dressed, teeth brushed, breakfasted, had
visited the loo, and were on their precarious journey all in a question of
fifteen minutes. 1944 Auden For Time Being (1945) 20 Between the bottle and
the 'loo' A lost thing looks for a lost name. 1954 Koestler Invis. Writing
xxxix. 419 The story of 'the loo-tank papers'+is another instance of the
cloak-and-dagger atmosphere. 1955 G. Freeman Liberty Man ii. vi. 113
Johnnie, do take him to the loo, there's a good boy. 1957 P. Wildeblood
Main Chance 57 The loo's on the landing, if you want to spend a penny. 1960
C. Mackenzie Greece in my Life 23, I think I should sigh for the old Grande
Bretagne Hotel in spite of the squalor of the loo which was no paradise for
dysentery. 1971 Petticoat 17 July 31/2 You can wait until he goes to the
loo or, if he appears to have a bladder like an ox, send him to the kitchen
for more coffee. 1972 Guardian 23 Feb. 18/5 Matching bathmats (£2.20)+and
loo seat covers (£1.80 and £1.12). 1973 E. McGirr Bardel's Murder iv. 85 A
neighbouring cat had come through the window and made away with the loo
brush. 1974 Observer 28 Apr. 28/6 The loo rolls unfurling across the pitch.
OED, 2nd Edition
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D. Spencer Hines
for the W.C. did not begin until the 20th Century?...
And that James Joyce and _Ulysses_ may have had something to do with it?
Peter Jason
"Eugene Griessel" <eugene@dynagen..co..za>
wrote in message
Very true. Here the whiteants are notorious
for surreptitiously gnawing away at wooden
building frames and walls. Like rust in car
body parts it is already too late when the
damage is noticed.
John H
boss and a fellow employee on the quiet does the same project and hands it
to the boss before you do thus leaving you looking like a slow dumb one.
Thus the fellow employee whiteanted you with the boss, so he could get ahead
in the business.
This could also be construed as "Brown nosing the Boss" or "crawling up the
bosses arse"
Or using the soldier one below,
Say two soldiers met some girls at a dance and one got on well with the girl
and made a date to meet at her house, unbeknown to that soldier the other
soldier made an earlier date and was t the home when first soldier arrived
at her flat .
Thus the 2nd soldier according to the 1st soldier would have whiteanted him
and taken the sheila he was after.
True White Ants (termites) in Australia eat out all the internal structure
of a piece of wood but leave the outside looking 100% good.
Thus you have something done without it being visible to others.
Hope that helps, might not too!! (maybe "muddies the waters" or leave the
idea "clearer than mud" as the Aussies say).
John H
"Bert Hyman" <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
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Nebulous
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Little Jamie
Ither laddies may ha's finer claes, and may be better fed,
But nane o' them a'has sic a bonnie curly heid,
O sie a blythe blink in their e'e,
As my ain curly fair-hair'd laddie, Little Jamie.
When I gang oot tae tak' a walk wi' him, alang the Magdalen Green,
It mak's my heart feel lichtsome tae see him sae sharp and keen,
And he pu's the wee gowans, and gie's them to me,
My ain curly fair-hair'd laddie, Little Jamie.
When he rises in the mornin' an' gets oot o' bed,
He says, mither, mind ye'll need tae toast my faither's bread.
For he aye gie's me a bawbee;
He's the best little laddie that ever I did see,
My ain curly fair-hair'd laddie, Little Jamie.
When I gang oot tae tak' a walk alang the streets o' Dundee,
And views a' the little laddies that I chance to see,
Nane o' them a' seems sae lovely to me,
As my ain curly fair-hair'd laddie, Little Jamie.
The laddie is handsome and fair to be seen,
He has a bonnie cheerie mou', and taw blue e'en,
And he prattles like an auld grandfaither richt merrily;
He's the funniest little laddie that ever I did see,
My ain curly fair-hair'd Iaddie, Little Jamie.
Whene'er that he kens I am coming hame frae my wark,
He runs oot tae meet me as cheerful as the lark,
And he says, faither, I'm wanting just a'e bawbee,
My ain curly fair-hair'd laddie, Little Jamie.
Bert Hyman
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> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/white_ant
Thanks!
I don't think I'll try to work that into conversations around here
just yet.
Eugene Griessel
>eugene@dynagen..co..za (Eugene Griessel) wrote in
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>
>> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/white_ant
>
>Thanks!
>
>I don't think I'll try to work that into conversations around here
>just yet.
It occassionally arises in the odd magazine/newspaper article here in
seffrica. Trouble is one gets the idea it is so fuzzy and poorly
understood that people just seem to toss it into an article where it
is in reality fairly meaningless. A case of wanting to use an "in"
word but not quite understanding what it means.
Eugene L Griessel
History is a damn dim candle over a damn dark abyss.
- W.S. Holt
Peter Jason
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John H
have simiar context.
Also "fifth Column" if done by more than one person.news:Xns9A2D50F23D...@127.0.0.1...
Tombstone
from the inside without showing their presence.
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Robert Peffers
Yes, it is circa 20c.
From the COD.
loo1 / n. Brit. colloq.
a lavatory.
[20th c.: origin uncertain]
Renia
Nebulous
"Renia" <re...@DELETEotenet.gr> wrote in message
The Moon
Beautiful Moon, with thy silvery light,
Thou seemest most charming to my sight;
As I gaze upon thee in the sky so high,
A tear of joy does moisten mine eye.
Beautiful Moon, with thy silvery light,
Thou cheerest the Esquimau in the night;
For thou lettest him see to harpoon the fish,
And with them he makes a dainty dish.
Beautiful Moon, with thy silvery light,
Thou cheerest the fox in the night,
And lettest him see to steal the grey goose away
Out of the farm-yard from a stack of hay.
Beautiful Moon, with thy silvery light,
Thou cheerest the farmer in the night,
and makes his heart beat high with delight
As he views his crops by the light in the night.
Beautiful Moon, with thy silvery light,
Thou cheerest the eagle in the night,
And lettest him see to devour his prey
And carry it to his nest away.
Beautiful Moon, with thy silvery light,
Thou cheerest the mariner in the night
As he paces the deck alone,
Thinking of his dear friends at home.
Beautiful Moon, with thy silvery light,
Thou cheerest the weary traveller in the night;
For thou lightest up the wayside around
To him when he is homeward bound.
Beautiful Moon, with thy silvery light,
Thou cheerest the lovers in the night
As they walk through the shady groves alone,
Making love to each other before they go home.
Beautiful Moon, with thy silvery light,
Thou cheerest the poacher in the night;
For thou lettest him see to set his snares
To catch the rabbit and the hares.