Sumbarines and go-go dancers?
Read Mecleary
I am doing a bit of research for a friend of mine who will shortly be
giving a speech about the military. As part of his piece, he plans on
making reference to an incident in which a U.S. Navy submarine deployed
from San Diego, CA with a go-go dancer on the dive plane. If anyone
could tell me the year, the name of the submarine, or the final
disposition of this occurrence, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks
in advance!
Read Mecleary
sea...@ix.netcom.com
twidget
this is one of those submarine legends-when we first heard of it, in
1981, it was a submarine out of charleston, south carolina. and the
officer of the deck (and instigator) was a young junior officer who
later became the co of uss boston (he was my xo on kamehameha)
don't believe the hype...
stsc(ss), retired.
Brian Engler
twi...@rt66.com (twidget) wrote:
>stsc(ss), retired.
I recall an incident in which a dancer named Cat (or Kat?) Futch, or
some similar name, performed on a submarine sail--prior to a
deployment, I think. It's a pretty hazy memory--late '70s or early
'80s sounds like a reasonable guess, and I remember it being in the
Southeast--Charleston, perhaps, or Mayport, FL. The C.O. was relieved
post-haste. I was in the Navy at the time and, despite the lack of
detail recalled, I am fairly sure it was a true incident and real
scandal--one which the Navy handled immediately and decisively, which
may be why, thankfully, it has not remained in the public's eye over
the years.
- - -
Brian D. Engler
Burke, Virginia U.S.A.
ben...@erols.com
ben...@erols.com
Steve Bartman
ben...@erols.com (Brian Engler) wrote:
>I recall an incident in which a dancer named Cat (or Kat?) Futch, or
>some similar name, performed on a submarine sail--prior to a
>deployment, I think. It's a pretty hazy memory--late '70s or early
>'80s sounds like a reasonable guess, and I remember it being in the
>Southeast--Charleston, perhaps, or Mayport, FL. The C.O. was relieved
>post-haste. I was in the Navy at the time and, despite the lack of
>detail recalled, I am fairly sure it was a true incident and real
>scandal--one which the Navy handled immediately and decisively, which
>may be why, thankfully, it has not remained in the public's eye over
>the years.
Your memory is good. Her name WAS Cat Futch, and it was USS FINBACK. I
'think' it was coming out of Norfolk (the Norfolk Virginian-Pilot
printed her bikini-clad promo glossy and a short caption. She
resembled Cheryl Ladd of Charlie's Angels in build, had a 'Farrah-cut'
on the hair, and a LOT of teeth.) I believe the CO hired her to thank
the crew for busting hump on an availability. I don't know if she was
on the sail plane or the afterdeck--I seem to remember it was the
latter. I think she went off in the pilot boat.
I cut the picture out and saved it for several years--I was either
grade 10 or 11, which would make it about 1975-ish.
I believe the CO was relieved. Actually, I think he got a message
after they dived and commenced the transit to turn around and come
back, and he was fired on the pier. There was a short flurry of
national editorial cartoons about it also. Remember, this was the
mid-70s, post-Vietnam military doldrums. The press was up on bashing
the Navy.
Hey, sorta like now!!
Steve Bartman
sbar...@ix.netcom.com
Ray Wilson
Sounds exactly like something we'd do... Probably a good boat.
Ray
ex-boomer puke.
SSBN-656(G)
David DeFalco
Read Mecleary wrote:
>
> I am doing a bit of research for a friend of mine who will shortly be
> giving a speech about the military. As part of his piece, he plans on
> making reference to an incident in which a U.S. Navy submarine deployed
> from San Diego, CA with a go-go dancer on the dive plane. If anyone
> could tell me the year, the name of the submarine, or the final
> disposition of this occurrence, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks
> in advance!
>
> Read Mecleary
> sea...@ix.netcom.com
Sounds like a great way to get underway. Didja pack a g-string and
tassels in yer seabag, Sue???
DD
Cole Pierce
In article <4tig2q$i...@ftp.ee.vill.edu>, toll...@monet.vill.edu (Michael Tollefson) writes:
|> Read Mecleary (sea...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
|> : I am doing a bit of research for a friend of mine who will shortly be
|> : giving a speech about the military. As part of his piece, he plans on
|> : making reference to an incident in which a U.S. Navy submarine deployed
|> : from San Diego, CA with a go-go dancer on the dive plane. If anyone
|> : could tell me the year, the name of the submarine, or the final
|> : disposition of this occurrence, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks
|> : in advance!
|>
|> : Read Mecleary
|> : sea...@ix.netcom.com
|> It was the Finback.
|> It was Cape Canaveral.
|> ...best, Mike T.
And the captain was relieved for cause. What a shame. I'll bet he had
a crew that would do anything, go anywhere for him.
gun one
Peter
In article <4tig2q$i...@ftp.ee.vill.edu>, toll...@monet.vill.edu says...
>
>Read Mecleary (sea...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>: I am doing a bit of research for a friend of mine who will shortly be
>: giving a speech about the military. As part of his piece, he plans on
>: making reference to an incident in which a U.S. Navy submarine deployed
>: from San Diego, CA with a go-go dancer on the dive plane. If anyone
>: could tell me the year, the name of the submarine, or the final
>: disposition of this occurrence, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks
>: in advance!
>
>: Read Mecleary
>: sea...@ix.netcom.com
Just out of curiosity...what is your friend's agenda vis-a-vis the military?
Is he anti-military? It just strikes me as a *very odd* incident (if indeed
it deed occur) to include in a "speech about the military"?
What is his purpose in using this alledged incident?
Pete
Michael Tollefson
Read Mecleary (sea...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: I am doing a bit of research for a friend of mine who will shortly be
: giving a speech about the military. As part of his piece, he plans on
: making reference to an incident in which a U.S. Navy submarine deployed
: from San Diego, CA with a go-go dancer on the dive plane. If anyone
: could tell me the year, the name of the submarine, or the final
: disposition of this occurrence, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks
: in advance!
: Read Mecleary
: sea...@ix.netcom.com
Spads Forever
In article <31FCE2...@nortel.com>, David DeFalco <za...@nortel.com> wrote:
> Read Mecleary wrote:
> >
> > I am doing a bit of research for a friend of mine who will shortly be
> > giving a speech about the military. As part of his piece, he plans on
> > making reference to an incident in which a U.S. Navy submarine deployed
> > from San Diego, CA with a go-go dancer on the dive plane. If anyone
> > could tell me the year, the name of the submarine, or the final
> > disposition of this occurrence, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks
> > in advance!
> >
> > Read Mecleary
> > sea...@ix.netcom.com
>
>
> Sounds like a great way to get underway. Didja pack a g-string and
> tassels in yer seabag, Sue???
>
>
> DD
I *knew* this was coming...
I think her g-strings are all leather. Personally, I believe all such,
eh-hem, exhibitions should be of a more private nature. Somehow or
another I don't think the fecal material would've hit the rotary
oscillator quite so fiercely if this dance had taken place somewhere
inside and not on the boat, ya know? And no, I didn't pack mine...but
that snake is still around here somewhere....just covers what's
necessary....as long as she (the snake) doesn't move.
Tex
--
...Navy Wings are made of Gold...
Fred E. Hayes 412-963-4669 {sun53}
Don't forget about the Greenhouse.
Cat Futch later joined the Marines (believe it or not).
Michael Tollefson wrote:
>
> Read Mecleary (sea...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> : I am doing a bit of research for a friend of mine who will shortly be
> : giving a speech about the military. As part of his piece, he plans on
> : making reference to an incident in which a U.S. Navy submarine deployed
> : from San Diego, CA with a go-go dancer on the dive plane. If anyone
> : could tell me the year, the name of the submarine, or the final
> : disposition of this occurrence, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks
> : in advance!
>
> : Read Mecleary
> : sea...@ix.netcom.com
ocar...@mnsinc.com
>>I recall an incident in which a dancer named Cat (or Kat?) Futch, or
>>some similar name, performed on a submarine sail--prior to a
>>deployment, I think. It's a pretty hazy memory--late '70s or early
>>'80s sounds like a reasonable guess, and I remember it being in the
>>Southeast--Charleston, perhaps, or Mayport, FL. The C.O. was relieved
>>post-haste. I was in the Navy at the time and, despite the lack of
>>detail recalled, I am fairly sure it was a true incident and real
>>scandal--one which the Navy handled immediately and decisively, which
>>may be why, thankfully, it has not remained in the public's eye over
>>the years.
>
>Your memory is good. Her name WAS Cat Futch, and it was USS FINBACK. I
>'think' it was coming out of Norfolk (the Norfolk Virginian-Pilot
>printed her bikini-clad promo glossy and a short caption. She
>resembled Cheryl Ladd of Charlie's Angels in build, had a 'Farrah-cut'
>on the hair, and a LOT of teeth.) I believe the CO hired her to thank
>the crew for busting hump on an availability. I don't know if she was
>on the sail plane or the afterdeck--I seem to remember it was the
>latter. I think she went off in the pilot boat.
>
Connie Stevenson was relieved of command. While he sometimes
approached a problem from a different angle, the crew was said to
have high morale and be quite competent.
Paul F Austin
In article <4to4p4$4...@ftp.ee.vill.edu> toll...@monet.vill.edu (Michael Tollefson) writes:
>From: toll...@monet.vill.edu (Michael Tollefson)
>Subject: Re: Sumbarines and go-go dancers?
>Date: 31 Jul 1996 17:22:44 GMT
>: Finback was departing Fort Lauderdale en route Norfolk. On arrival,
>: Connie Stevenson was relieved of command. While he sometimes
>: approached a problem from a different angle, the crew was said to
>: have high morale and be quite competent.
>Trust me...It was Cape Canaveral. Ms Futch moved from a show at the
>Green House bar to the sailplane via the crew's mess. And what she did
>in the crew's mess is why the CO was really fired.
The State Representative for this district (Melbourne Fla) is _Howard
Futch_(good guy). Anyone know if there's a relationship?
In politics, sincerity is everything.
If you learn to fake that, you've got it made.
-------------------------------------
Paul Austin
PAU...@HARRIS.COM
Michael Tollefson
: Finback was departing Fort Lauderdale en route Norfolk. On arrival,
: Connie Stevenson was relieved of command. While he sometimes
: approached a problem from a different angle, the crew was said to
: have high morale and be quite competent.
Trust me...It was Cape Canaveral. Ms Futch moved from a show at the
Green House bar to the sailplane via the crew's mess. And what she did
in the crew's mess is why the CO was really fired.
...best, Mike T. (on SUBLAMT staff at the time)
Paul J. Adam
In article <4to4p4$4...@ftp.ee.vill.edu>, Michael Tollefson
<toll...@monet.vill.edu> writes
>Trust me...It was Cape Canaveral. Ms Futch moved from a show at the
>Green House bar to the sailplane via the crew's mess. And what she did
>in the crew's mess is why the CO was really fired.
>
>...best, Mike T. (on SUBLAMT staff at the time)
Go on then. What happened in the crew's mess? You can't leave us in
suspenders like this...
--
"There are four kinds of homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable and
praiseworthy."
Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
Paul J. Adam pa...@jrwlynch.demon.co.uk
Tim McFeely
sbar...@ix.netcom.com (Steve Bartman) wrote:
>ben...@erols.com (Brian Engler) wrote:
>>I recall an incident in which a dancer named Cat (or Kat?) Futch, or
>>some similar name, performed on a submarine sail--prior to a
>>deployment, I think. It's a pretty hazy memory--late '70s or early
>>'80s sounds like a reasonable guess, and I remember it being in the
>>Southeast--Charleston, perhaps, or Mayport, FL. The C.O. was relieved
>>post-haste. I was in the Navy at the time and, despite the lack of
>>detail recalled, I am fairly sure it was a true incident and real
>>scandal--one which the Navy handled immediately and decisively, which
>>may be why, thankfully, it has not remained in the public's eye over
>>the years.
>Your memory is good. Her name WAS Cat Futch, and it was USS FINBACK. I
>'think' it was coming out of Norfolk (the Norfolk Virginian-Pilot
>printed her bikini-clad promo glossy and a short caption. She
>resembled Cheryl Ladd of Charlie's Angels in build, had a 'Farrah-cut'
>on the hair, and a LOT of teeth.) I believe the CO hired her to thank
>the crew for busting hump on an availability. I don't know if she was
>on the sail plane or the afterdeck--I seem to remember it was the
>latter. I think she went off in the pilot boat.
Shit, this happened all the time in Groton, except it wasn't on the
boat. Fleet hogs would come out and flash us (or sometimes strip) on
the AMTRAK bridge, the (usta be in Groton, now New London) Lorlei, the
old Croaker pier, and any other damn place a female could find a place
to stand in view of the boat. Funny as hell. Lookout used to call 'New
contact, bearing XXX, range XXX, contact appears to be a large
biologic'. Every once in a while the lookout would amend the above
call with 'Damn, I know her'.
>I cut the picture out and saved it for several years--I was either
>grade 10 or 11, which would make it about 1975-ish.
>I believe the CO was relieved. Actually, I think he got a message
>after they dived and commenced the transit to turn around and come
>back, and he was fired on the pier. There was a short flurry of
>national editorial cartoons about it also. Remember, this was the
>mid-70s, post-Vietnam military doldrums. The press was up on bashing
>the Navy.
>Hey, sorta like now!!
What goes around, comes around....
>Steve Bartman
>sbar...@ix.netcom.com
Scope's under...
Tim McFeely
ex-TM2(SS)...a dying breed
ad...@osfn.rhilinet.gov
Michael Tollefson
: Go on then. What happened in the crew's mess? You can't leave us in
: suspenders like this...
Well, she did typical stripper things to typical sailors in the typical
way when the cops aren't around.
...best, Mike T.
Graydon
Paul J. Adam (pa...@jrwlynch.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <4to4p4$4...@ftp.ee.vill.edu>, Michael Tollefson
: <toll...@monet.vill.edu> writes
: >Trust me...It was Cape Canaveral. Ms Futch moved from a show at the
: >Green House bar to the sailplane via the crew's mess. And what she did
: >in the crew's mess is why the CO was really fired.
: >
: >...best, Mike T. (on SUBLAMT staff at the time)
: Go on then. What happened in the crew's mess? You can't leave us in
: suspenders like this...
Doubtless she was permitted to review a classified publication.
--
saun...@qlink.queensu.ca | Monete me si non anglice loquobar.
Paul J. Adam
In article <4tqs2g$6...@ftp.ee.vill.edu>, Michael Tollefson
<toll...@monet.vill.edu> writes
>Well, she did typical stripper things to typical sailors in the typical
>way when the cops aren't around.
Oh, is that all? I thought she must have managed something really
startling to get the CO canned... :)
(depends on your definition of "typical stripper" and "typical sailor",
I guess)
tbm1...@gmail.com
> I am doing a bit of research for a friend of mine who will shortly be
> giving a speech about the military. As part of his piece, he plans on
> making reference to an incident in which a U.S. Navy submarine deployed
> from San Diego, CA with a go-go dancer on the dive plane. If anyone
> could tell me the year, the name of the submarine, or the final
> disposition of this occurrence, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks
> in advance!
>
> Read Mecleary
> sea...@ix.netcom.com
damdu...@yahoo.co.uk
>On Friday, July 26, 1996 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, Read Mecleary wrote:
>> giving a speech about the military.
>> sea...@ix.netcom.com
>
>Bill m here, em2ss crew member uss finback during the above event. I was the JA phone talker on the bridge that day. Cat was on the port fairwater plane as we left port for daily ops. finback was stationed in Norfolk va. happened in july 1975. contact me for more info
Dennis
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Dennis
> Cat Futch USS Finback 1977
thereof for the recent spate of US Navy ship collisions?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Finback_(SSN-670)
The Go Go Dance
On 10 July 1975, the captain of the Finback permitted a topless farewell
dance to be performed on the diving plane of the sail by a local go-go
dancer known as Cat Futch (Cathy Susan Futch[1]) as the vessel departed
Port Canaveral, Florida. On 1 August 1975, when the Navy brass learned
of the incident, the submarine was ordered back to port and the captain
was relieved of his command,[2] "pending the investigation of an
incident of a non-operational nature."[3] The captain, Cdr. Connelly D.
Stevenson, 41, gave permission for the act as a reward for performance
by his crew during a major overhaul at the Naval shipyard in Portsmouth,
Virginia, the preceding year which cut two months off of a scheduled 12-
month overhaul at considerable savings to the government. Stevenson was
seeking to be reinstated in his command and said that he did not know
how the incident had leaked to the media. "I'm in the middle of Navy
proceedings in my behalf and I'm already concerned that the press just
has not done my cause any good and it's certainly my intention not to
continue the press activity," he stated in a 9 September 1975 Washington
Post report that publicly broke the incident.[4]
Ultimately, Admiral James L. Holloway III, Chief of Naval Operations, on
2 October 1975, found the former commander of Finback "guilty of
permitting an action, which could have distracted the attention of those
responsible for the safe navigation of the nuclear-powered submarine
maneuvering in restricted waters." Holloway agreed with subordinates
that Stevenson had failed to exercise good judgement and did not follow
regulations governing civilian visitors to naval vessels. Stevenson's
next assignment was to the Naval Research Laboratory in London, and
although technically still eligible for the promotion list such
consideration was unlikely under the circumstances and he subsequently
left active duty.[5]
An article in the February 2010 issue of Naval History, published by the
United States Naval Institute, Annapolis, Maryland, categorizes this
episode as "one of the most notorious incidents in the history of the
Navy's nuclear-powered submarine force."
thow...@gmail.com
She was the infamous dancer on the bow of the sub, USS Finback as it departed Port Canerval, Fl on deployment.
She was born in 1958, and died in 1998, at 40 years old, no cause of death listed.
What few know, she felt the notoriety ruined her life, and she felt very badly for the Skipper of the Sub who was relieved of his command, and later left the Navy. She thought joining the Marine Corps would change her life, I met her during Recruit training at Parris Island, however she dropped out almost immediately. She was a nice, sweet girl, but troubled.
What was not printed was that she was just 18 years old at the time.
David E. Powell
Thank you for your service, too.
betrayt...@gmail.com
betrayt...@gmail.com
Dennis
> On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 11:16:32 PM UTC-4, thow...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Cathy Susan Futch, aka Cat Futch. From Titusville, Fl
>> She was the infamous dancer on the bow of the sub, USS Finback as it
>> depa
> rted Port Canerval, Fl on deployment.
>> She was born in 1958, and died in 1998, at 40 years old, no cause of
>> deat
> h listed.
>> What few know, she felt the notoriety ruined her life, and she felt
>> very
> badly for the Skipper of the Sub who was relieved of his command, and
> later left the Navy. She thought joining the Marine Corps would change
> her life, I met her during Recruit training at Parris Island, however
> she dropped out almost immediately. She was a nice, sweet girl, but
> troubled.
>> What was not printed was that she was just 18 years old at the time.
>
> Thank you for the details. That is a very rough story, sad to hear it
> went down like that for her and the others. >
> It makes me wonder what
> would happen if every one of us out there had something we did at 18
> blow up in the worst possible way it could have.
Ask Brett Kavanaugh
Tho I'm not nearly as sympathetic for him, in fact not at all.
Dennis
Fred J. McCall
GMT:
>
>Ask Brett Kavanaugh
>
Why? He didn't do anything.
--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates
ZZyXX
> Dennis <tsalagi...@hotmail.com> wrote on 24 Sep 2018 06:10:51
> GMT:
>
>>
>> Ask Brett Kavanaugh
>>
>
> Why? He didn't do anything.
>
>
give it to the Judiciary Committee?
Fred J. McCall
2018 11:20:26 -0700:
female friend of Ford's, say it never happened.
--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson
Byker
> listed.
>What few know, she felt the notoriety ruined her life, and she felt very
ZZyXX
> ZZyXX <zz...@CampSoda-Restoration-Project.tv> wrote on Mon, 24 Sep
> 2018 11:20:26 -0700:
>
>> On 9/24/18 4:57 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>>> Dennis <tsalagi...@hotmail.com> wrote on 24 Sep 2018 06:10:51
>>> GMT:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ask Brett Kavanaugh
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why? He didn't do anything.
>>>
>>
>> wow, you have knowledge that no one else has? why don't you go to DC and
>> give it to the Judiciary Committee?
>>
>
> They already have it. All the named people involved, including a
> female friend of Ford's, say it never happened.
>
>
Fred J. McCall
2018 11:23:39 -0700:
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
ZZyXX
Fred J. McCall
pro-Trump.
--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine
tRudy Crayola
don't doubt that some were dancing etc. Can you prove otherwise. No?
Then shut the fuck up.
--
Rudy's Nut & Fruit farm- Sacramento
tRudy Crayola
Now that is true.
ZZyXX
ZZyXX
>
> Now that is true.
>
>