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Judity

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Oct 5, 2008, 12:42:32 PM10/5/08
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Any of you women joining me there?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/05/palin-misquotes-albright_n_131967.html

The more she opens her mouth, the dumber, scarier, and ruder she
appears.

Isn't ANYONE on her staff checking her speeches beforehand?

Judity
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Oct 5, 2008, 1:40:14 PM10/5/08
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I don't see the difference in the words "support" and "help".

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Anne V.

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Oct 5, 2008, 2:06:25 PM10/5/08
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Big difference in the political arena, I would think.

Anne

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Susan Mitchell

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Oct 5, 2008, 4:09:57 PM10/5/08
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There should be a common sense test for this job. She would fail, hands
down. She has no common sense. To not even know what Achilles heel is still
baffles me, but she's just a "joe sixpack" I guess. I would like to tell her
that coming, going and doing end in G!

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Marsha

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Oct 5, 2008, 5:12:42 PM10/5/08
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Judity wrote:
> The more she opens her mouth, the dumber, scarier, and ruder she
> appears.
>
> Isn't ANYONE on her staff checking her speeches beforehand?
>
> Judity

Apparently no one is checking Biden and Obama before they open their
mouth either. We can play this game of "Who's more stupid" all day, and
I'll bet Biden and Obama would lose.

A couple of good ones from Biden:

Biden ran for president 20 years ago but had to abandon his campaign
when it was discovered that he had plagiarized speeches from a British
politician, substituting in key details to make the story his own.

Biden, referring to Sen. Obama: “I mean, you got the first mainstream
African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a
nice-looking guy.”

Last summer Biden attempted to endear himself to an Indian American
supporter by telling him that in Delaware, “you cannot go to a 7-Eleven
or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.” Not only
was this an offensive line, it didn’t even make any sense: The
observation, familiar to anybody who watched a comedian on cable
television 15 years ago, is that Indian Americans are the only ones who
work in convenience stores, not that they’re the only ones who shop
there. The man can’t even keep his condescending cliches straight.
Biden asked the wheelchair-bound Missouri politician Chuck Graham to
"stand up" at a rally.

And his harrowing helicopter ride when he was forced down in
Afghanistan. He always leaves out the fact that it was snow that forced
him down, not a military attack.

Or when he announced last week that President Roosevelt went on TV
following the stock market crash of 1929. The problem was FDR wasn’t
President and TV wasn’t available yet.

“We’re not supporting clean coal,” Biden said. “No coal plants here in
America.” The problem? Obama mentioned his support of clean coal in his
acceptance speech at the Democratic National convention.

Hezbollah - "When we kicked — along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out
of Lebanon, I said, and Barack said, ‘Move NATO forces in there. Fill
the vacuum, because if you don’t know — if you don’t, Hezbollah will
control it.” Reuters thinks he meant to refer to Syria, but it still
wouldn’t be accurate to say the U.S. kicked Syria out of Lebanon. The
Lebanese kicked Syria out of Lebanon.

Katie's Restaurant - "Look, all you have to do is go down Union Street
with me in Wilmington or go to Katie's Restaurant or walk into Home
Depot with me where I spend a lot of time and you ask anybody in there
whether or not the economic and foreign policy of this administration
has made them better off in the last eight years." According to this
Delaware site, Katie's Restaurant is no longer in business; locals
remember it on Union Street 25 to 30 years ago.

And now some good ones from Obama:

If we’re going to ask questions about, you know, who has been
promulgating negative ads that are completely unrelated to the issues at
hand, I think I win that contest pretty handily.” -
Obama on Good Morning America, 9/15/08

“Israel is a strong friend of Israel.”

Obama thinks we have 57 states. As president, he thinks he'll be
dealing with foreign countries for "8-10" years. He apparently doesn't
know that he is limited to two terms, not 2 1/2.

Here’s a whole bunch on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DQLG54T4KU

Marsha/Ohio

Judity

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Oct 5, 2008, 6:19:43 PM10/5/08
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As I posted before, here is a good site to check out facts.

http://www.factcheck.org/

Neither party is free from gaffes, but Palin seems to be the scariest
of the four. In fact, she's still bringing up old items that have
been discredited.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/say-it-aint-so-sarah-pali_n_131841.html

According to the recent V-P debate, she mentioned wanting to expand
the role of Vice President.

http://beltwayblips.com/video/sarah_palin_said_she_wants_to_expand_vice_president/

McCain is old, not in the best of health with recurrent melanoma.
Added to that, his mental acuity seems to be faltering if his actions
these last couple weeks are any indication. Can you honestly see
Palin running our country if anything happened to McCain?

Also, what's the status of the lawsuit up in Alaska? I wonder if
Palin is going to wink-wink her way out of that.

Judity

Susan Mitchell

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Oct 5, 2008, 6:24:05 PM10/5/08
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No she isn't but she and the RNC have demanded it is a political attack on
her since she is VP (never mind the fact it started before she was). She had
previously agreed to fully cooperate until she was VP candidate. Now, no
cooperation and demanding it stop. Is she Cheney's twin sister?

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Marsha

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Judity wrote:

> As I posted before, here is a good site to check out facts.
>
> http://www.factcheck.org/

Everything I posted is true.

>
> Neither party is free from gaffes, but Palin seems to be the scariest
> of the four.

"Scary" seems to be an epidemic. Do you think switching "support" and
"help" is anywhere near as dumb as anything mentioned in my list?

>In fact, she's still bringing up old items that have
> been discredited.

As have Obama and Biden.

>
> According to the recent V-P debate, she mentioned wanting to expand
> the role of Vice President.
>
> http://beltwayblips.com/video/sarah_palin_said_she_wants_to_expand_vice_president/

Your point?

>
> McCain is old, not in the best of health with recurrent melanoma.
> Added to that, his mental acuity seems to be faltering if his actions
> these last couple weeks are any indication. Can you honestly see
> Palin running our country if anything happened to McCain?

See post above about Obama and Biden's health.

>
> Also, what's the status of the lawsuit up in Alaska? I wonder if
> Palin is going to wink-wink her way out of that.

Judity


I'm sure you're hoping she gets nailed. Is this the guy we're talking
about? He sounds like an excellent role model:

Troopers investigated 13 issues and found four in which Wooten (Palin's
ex-brother-in-law) violated policy or broke the law or both:

• Wooten used a Taser on his stepson.
• He illegally shot a moose.
• He drank beer in his patrol car on one occasion.
• He told others his father-in-law would “eat a f’ing lead bullet” if he
helped his daughter get an attorney for the divorce.

Beyond the investigation sparked by the family, trooper commanders saw
cause to discipline or give written instructions to correct Wooten seven
times since he joined the force in 2001, according to Grimes’ letter to
Wooten.

Those incidents included: a reprimand in January 2004 for negligent
damage to a state vehicle; a January 2005 instruction after being
accused of speeding, unsafe lane changes, following too closely and not
using turn signals in his state vehicle; a June 2005 instruction
regarding personal cell phone calls; an October 2005 suspension from
work after getting a speeding ticket; and a November 2005 memo “to
clarify duty hours, tardiness and personal business during duty time.”

Marsha/Ohio

jmorn...@aol.com

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Oct 5, 2008, 7:27:55 PM10/5/08
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I am entering into this discussion just to set a few facts straight.
The problems of officer Wooten are not what this case is about and you
know that Marsha, but I will point it out for others who are reading
this and may not know the fact. Troopergate is about using undue
influence and trying to ruin Officer Wooten's life. If SP and TP had
done something about these things before her sister got divorce, then
it might also have been different. But that didn't happen either.
Officer Wooten only was a problem after he went back to his first wife
(although the things he is accused of doing happened while he was
married to SP's sister). So he decides to go back to his first wife
and SP got pissed. She was so involved in this divorce and trying to
ruin Wooted that the judge in the divorce case had to threaten SP and
TP to dial it back or he would take actions. I have never heard of
such a thing as a judge threatening outside parties.

So then Wooten is not being fired so TP takes it upon himself to stalk
OW and take pictures of him. He had a WC injury. When they couldn't
get him fired, they went after the WC company and threatened this
owner with loss of her contract if OW's case was not denied. It was
Denied. Then the WC company got their contract renewed, even though it
was a higher price than another bidder. Funny how those things happen.

Well fortunately or unfortunately how you look at it, there is taped
proof that TP coerced someone in the WC company and that person
testified truthfully. When the house of cards came tumbling down, now
the WC company owner has changed her testimony under oath and stated
that she was afraid of the repercussions of S and TP.

Still can't get him fired to take further action.

This woman is a vindictive bitch and she had better win because going
back to AK is not going to be pretty.

So try and make it all about the actions of the trooper, who should
have been fired. But he should have been fired while he was married to
SP's sister instead of covering up why the vindictive bitch tried to
have him fired only after he left her sister like a hot cake and went
back to his first wife.

Janice

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Oct 5, 2008, 7:39:43 PM10/5/08
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Also forgot that after JM picked SP and TG moved forward, he sent a
lawyer to AK and this is committing a crime. The AKans seem to be more
pissed about JM and Republicans getting involved in this case than
anything. Whereas they might have kept this quiet, because of the
action of the JMC they are all starting to talk.

If SP keeps digging a bigger hole, she will find out just how well she
is thought of in AK. If I was her, I would drop this business trying
to connect BO with Ayers. Her skeletons are bigger than BOs and she
knows it.

Janice

Marsha

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Oct 5, 2008, 7:54:47 PM10/5/08
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What facts are you setting straight? I didn't post anything that was
incorrect and I never said it was all about Wooten. In the zeal to bury
Palin, people seem to think Wooton is pure as snow, which is far from
reality. If someone threatened to kill a member of my family or tased a
child, I'd be after them until they were in jail. Palin is being
investigated for using undue influence, but that hasn't been resolved in
a court of law yet. Until it is, it's all innuendo and, IMO, not
everything is as crystal clear as you've noted.

Marsha/Ohio

jmorn...@aol.com

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Marsha,

We will have to see how the results pan out then won't we. You see
nothing wrong with her activities because you are making it about what
OW did. This all happened before she was tapped and I wonder if she
wasn't your VP running mate if you would feel differently about some
of the things that she has done in her very short career.

If you don't see it as crystal clear, then you haven't been keeping up
on the facts because this is no hidden agenda. The testimony of these
individuals is in the newspaper. Then the phone tapes are played, if
clips are up on on the sites, then you may sing a different tune.

But we as accepting of the spin as you want. It is not likely that she
will be the VP, but if she is, it would be terrible for our country if
she had to step down because of an indictment in AK. Smells of Agnew a
tad.

Do you have any problem with her husband being a card carrying member
of a separatist party and her slinging names at BO about Ayers? I
didn't think so because you think BO is the anti-Christ.

Time will tell on this one for sure.

Janice

jmorn...@aol.com

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On another forum I set the record straight on things that she is being
accused of that were not true and there slanted. They were not put out
by the BO/JB campaign but just plain stupid zealot Dems (well I think
they were Dems anyway because why would the Reps do it). They were
possibly factual, but not correct. So wanting to be truthful, I stood
up to some pretty intense abuse because of my defense of her.

Janice

Jeannie

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"Phyllis Nilsson" <phyllis...@buckeye-express.com> wrote in
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> I don't see the difference in the words "support" and "help".

Huh? You're kidding, right? I can support someone without helping them
with their cause. I can also help someone without supporting them. I will
help a friend of mine who cheated on her husband and made a huge mess of
her life find a place to live, find childcare, etc. I am not supporting
her by any means. There is a HUGE difference in helping someone and
supporting them. I think that maybe Palin is counting on is people not
knowing the difference.

Jeannie

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Marsha <m...@xeb.net> wrote in news:gcbfi3$vgf$4...@news.datemas.de:

> I'm sure you're hoping she gets nailed. Is this the guy we're talking
> about? He sounds like an excellent role model:

But the "troopergate" scandal or whatever it is called isn't about WHAT he
did. It's about the possibility that SHE abused her power to discipline.
No matter what he did, if the proper procedures are not followed and
someone abuses power to punish them/fire them, etc., then THEY are JUST AS
GUILTY as the offender.

jmorn...@aol.com

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On Oct 5, 5:39 pm, Jeannie <jwilson...@comcastspamkills.net> wrote:
> But the "troopergate" scandal or whatever it is called isn't about WHAT he
> did.  It's about the possibility that SHE abused her power to discipline.  
> No matter what he did, if the proper procedures are not followed and
> someone abuses power to punish them/fire them, etc., then THEY are JUST AS
> GUILTY as the offender.  

Thanks for getting that part Jeannie. I would have had more respect
for many posters, if they would have said, I cannot believe JM picked
SP, but I still have to vote for JM because I think that BO would be
worse. I have prayed to God that nothing happens to JM, and I can't
even think about something happening to him. But all of these people
defending SP and saying what a great VP she will be makes me crazy.
Most people on the newsgroup can hold their own intellectually. If
they really looked at this situation with open eyes there is no way
that they could say that this woman is the best that the Republicans
have to offer. It is not tit for tat.

Janice

Marsha

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jmorn...@aol.com wrote:
> Marsha,
>
> We will have to see how the results pan out then won't we. You see
> nothing wrong with her activities because you are making it about what
> OW did.

Where did you get the idea that I see nothing wrong with her alleged
activities? If a court of law says she did something illegal, then I
will have a problem with it.

> If you don't see it as crystal clear, then you haven't been keeping up
> on the facts because this is no hidden agenda. The testimony of these
> individuals is in the newspaper. Then the phone tapes are played, if
> clips are up on on the sites, then you may sing a different tune.

Again, if it's as crystal clear as you reported, I suspect she would
already be convicted. Are you pronouncing her guilty?

> But we as accepting of the spin as you want. It is not likely that she
> will be the VP, but if she is, it would be terrible for our country if
> she had to step down because of an indictment in AK.

I don't think McCain will win. Obama has to win because, if he doesn't,
everyone will say it's because he's black and then all hell will break
loose.

> Do you have any problem with her husband being a card carrying member
> of a separatist party

See my response to Doug.

>and her slinging names at BO about Ayers?

Do you think Obama's relationship with Ayers is okay? How about Wright?
How about Reczko?

>I didn't think so because you think BO is the anti-Christ.

Not the anti-Christ. Just not good for the future of this country. I
don't want a president who will "talk" to terrorists, hoping they will
change. I don't want a president who voted against trying to save
aborted babies who were born alive. I don't want a president who will
tax to death people and businesses who earned their money just so he
could give it to deadbeats. I don't want socialism and/or communism. I
don't want a president who changes his mind about campaign
contributions, just so he could suck in more money. I don't want a
first lady who says she was never proud of her country until her husband
was nominated. I don't want a president who has for years had as his
mentor a racist radical pastor, etc. IMO, this all pales in comparison
to a VP running mate who supposedly misused her power to get a slimy
jerk who threatened a family member out of the police department.
McCain/Palin are not perfect by any means, but they are far, far better
than the alternative, IMO of course.

Marsha/Ohio

Marsha

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jmorn...@aol.com wrote:

Well, there's hope for you yet :-)

Marsha/Ohio

Marsha

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You called her a vindictive bitch twice, yet you defended her on another
forum? Interesting.

Marsha/Ohio

Kathycarp

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Are all of your Alaskan friends and family democrats? <g>

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jmorn...@aol.com

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On Oct 5, 6:26 pm, "Kathycarp" <k@thyc@rp@c...@st.net> wrote:
> Are all of your Alaskan friends and family democrats? <g>
>

No you know quite well that they are Republicans as we have discussed
this.

Janice

Kathycarp

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Oct 5, 2008, 9:33:21 PM10/5/08
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Sorry, I don't remember that. Blame it on menopause.

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Marsha

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Right. But, as I replied to JM, I never said it was all about Wooten.
My post was only to remind people that, because of the zeal to get SP at
any cost, he is not anywhere near the saint people seem to think. When
and if she's convicted, that will be another story. Not that this
supposed crime would scar anyone for life, of course.

Marsha/Ohio

jmorn...@aol.com

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On Oct 5, 6:45 pm, Marsha <m...@xeb.net> wrote:
> Right.  But, as I replied to JM, I never said it was all about Wooten.
> My post was only to remind people that, because of the zeal to get SP at
> any cost, he is not anywhere near the saint people seem to think.  When
> and if she's convicted, that will be another story.  Not that this
> supposed crime would scar anyone for life, of course.
>
> Marsha/Ohio

Marsha,

How is this a zeal to get SP? If JM would have stayed out of this and
if she
would have answered a few questions and even admitted it, it would all
be gone and no one would have spoken about it again.

It was when she was picked to be the VP, JM campaign went to Alaska
(claiming that they were BO by the way trying to dig up dirt on SP)
and make this into much more than it was. If there was no smoke. They
have already started the process to recall her AG.

Janice

Susan Mitchell

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Oct 5, 2008, 10:03:17 PM10/5/08
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But you support racist McCain, have you seen his latest stuff? Very racist.
Call it what it is. You call Obama dealing with racist pastor, McCain
happens to be very racist as is his current campaign and James Dobson's
crap.

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Marsha

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Susan Mitchell wrote:
> But you support racist McCain, have you seen his latest stuff? Very racist.
> Call it what it is. You call Obama dealing with racist pastor, McCain
> happens to be very racist as is his current campaign and James Dobson's
> crap.
>

Links?

Marsha/Ohio

Susan Mitchell

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this column from the McCain campaign's official Buchanan County
representative. You need to read this column to believe it. In "humor" he
accuses Obama of wanting to paint the White House black, supporting
reparations, changing the national anthem to the "black national anthem",
teaching "black liberation theology in all churches", and replacing the flag
with a "star and crescent logo".

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Marsha

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Susan Mitchell wrote:
> this column from the McCain campaign's official Buchanan County
> representative. You need to read this column to believe it. In "humor" he
> accuses Obama of wanting to paint the White House black, supporting
> reparations, changing the national anthem to the "black national anthem",
> teaching "black liberation theology in all churches", and replacing the flag
> with a "star and crescent logo".
>

Links?

Marsha/Ohio

Tallulah

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I saw someone on Letterman, Brian Williams, I think - who is the news
anchor who has yet to interview Sarah Palin. He said something that
really clarified it for me. He talked about how on 9/11, it had been
decided that it was too dangerous for Air Force One to land, so they
kept Bush in the air for quite a while. Meanwhile, Cheney was at the
helm making all of these decisions while our country was under
attack. Does anyone think she is ready for that? I sure don't.

Sandi

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Even if the link proved that this "county" person said such things, it
doesn't mean that John McCain is racist, and Susan knows it.

A couple of those allegations aren't racist, anyway. Does Obama
support reparations (I don't know, but maybe he does)? And black
liberation theology is not some made-up racist term; it's the name of
the movement and theology espoused by Jeremiah White. James Cone
wrote extensively on the subject, and Obama used information from him
in one of his books. Soooo....not sure how it can be racist if he
really adheres to it.

Sandi

Sandi

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> attack.  Does anyone think she is ready for that?  I sure don't.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Unfortunately (and I say that because I believe Obama will probably
win this election), I wouldn't be comfortable with the other party's
PRESIDENTIAL candidate being in charge in that situation.

Sandi

Tallulah

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> Sandi- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Well I haven't been comfortable with the person in charge now for the
last 8 years, either.

Jeannie

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Tallulah <tallulah...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:4be73cdb-6317-444e-
b4b7-4b8...@y71g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

> I saw someone on Letterman, Brian Williams, I think - who is the news
> anchor who has yet to interview Sarah Palin. He said something that
> really clarified it for me. He talked about how on 9/11, it had been
> decided that it was too dangerous for Air Force One to land, so they
> kept Bush in the air for quite a while. Meanwhile, Cheney was at the
> helm making all of these decisions while our country was under
> attack. Does anyone think she is ready for that? I sure don't.

I do not think SP is ready for that. However....I don't think BO is ready
for that either. Unfortunately, our choices are limited and I don't think
either ticket has a winning pair.

Phyllis Nilsson

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Oct 6, 2008, 11:35:50 AM10/6/08
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Sorry Jeannie, but there is no difference.

You cannot support someone without helping them in some way, even if it is
just a vote and no cash.

You cannot help your friend with supporting her and her choices.

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Phyllis Nilsson

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It is grating on my nerves when people use English incorrectly, even though
sometimes I do it myself. Bill O'Reilly used to be an English teacher, but
I swear he has forgotten what an adverb is.

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> There should be a common sense test for this job. She would fail, hands
> down. She has no common sense. To not even know what Achilles heel is
> still baffles me, but she's just a "joe sixpack" I guess. I would like to
> tell her that coming, going and doing end in G!
>
>


Kathycarp

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I will
help a friend of mine who cheated on her husband and made a huge mess of
her life find a place to live, find childcare, etc. I am not supporting
her by any means.
--------

I absolutely and wholeheartedly disagree with you. You certainly are
supporting her.

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Jeannie

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"Kathycarp" <k@thyc@rp@comc@st.net> wrote in news:KO-dnXpnzeu-
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> I absolutely and wholeheartedly disagree with you. You certainly are
> supporting her.

Well, everyone is going to have their own definition I guess. I don't
agree with her and her actions but I will help her. I won't support in
financially or emotionally but will not shut her out.

Jeannie

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Jeannie <jwils...@comcastspamkills.net> wrote in
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Okay, maybe this is a better analogy.

There's a couple broken down on the side of the road, flat tire, whatever.
I stop to help them. They mention they are atheists, whatnot. I still
will help them. That doesn't mean I support their beliefs.

RaeMorrill

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The words help and support may be close in meaning, depending on
context, but obviously the original remarks as made by Ms. Albright did
not refer to supporting a woman in a political manner. I'm rather
certain Sarah Palin would not have tried to twist them that way in the
event Hilary was the democratic nominee, do you think? You can, however,
most certainly help someone without supporting them, if support means
agreeing with their words or actions. Jeannie helping a friend, despite
the fact she apparently screwed up pretty badly, doesn't mean she is
giving approval for what she did. What would a friend do? Leave her out
on the street, particularly with a child, just because she did something
wrong - And PARTICULARLY were one considering the situation from a moral
(Christian in this case) standpoint vis-a-vis what Christ would do.

The point is really moot anyway - because a) Ms. Albright was misquoted
and b) because there was no indication Ms. Albright's statement was made
in a political context.


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Sandi

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On Oct 5, 12:42 pm, Judity <Judit...@aol.com> wrote:
> Any of you women joining me there?
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/05/palin-misquotes-albright_n_1...
>
> The more she opens her mouth, the dumber, scarier, and ruder she
> appears.
>
> Isn't ANYONE on her staff checking her speeches beforehand?
>
> Judity
> Just a thought!
> My Books would make inexpensive gifts
> 1,000 Words  or Lesshttp://tinyurl.com/68fkoo
> Home of the Red Foxhttp://tinyurl.com/yw64ar

1. Wow, talk about a tempest in a teapot.
2. I looked at the actual Starbucks cup online. It does say "help,"
but I find it interesting that the cup actually exists and I'm
surprised people weren't accusing her of making it up.
3. Who knows what the context of this statement was?
4. Help/support....tomato/tomah-to.
5. If you think making that joke is scary, you must have checked your
sense of humor at the door. Do you really believe she was seriously
saying women who don't vote for her are going to hell?

Sandi

Sandi

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On Oct 5, 12:42 pm, Judity <Judit...@aol.com> wrote:
> Any of you women joining me there?
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/05/palin-misquotes-albright_n_1...
>
> The more she opens her mouth, the dumber, scarier, and ruder she
> appears.
>
> Isn't ANYONE on her staff checking her speeches beforehand?
>
> Judity
> Just a thought!
> My Books would make inexpensive gifts
> 1,000 Words  or Lesshttp://tinyurl.com/68fkoo
> Home of the Red Foxhttp://tinyurl.com/yw64ar

Oh, yeah, one more thing...(it's a slow work day for me, apparently):

Maybe the reason no one on her staff is checking her speeches
beforehand is that she's not 100% scripted like, um, you know, the
other guy...

Sandi

Tallulah

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>>
> I do not think SP is ready for that.  However....I don't think BO is ready
> for that either.  Unfortunately, our choices are limited and I don't think
> either ticket has a winning pair.

I second that. Remember how many candidates there were in the
beginning, and this is what we wind up with? I was expecting too
much, I guess.

Kathycarp

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the vindictive bitch
-------

I don't understand. You say that like it's a bad thing. <g>

Phyllis Nilsson

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You don't have to support one's beliefs to support the person. If you help,
you are supporting them.

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Phyllis Nilsson

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That is one of the best definitions of supporting a person I've seen.

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> "Kathycarp" <k@thyc@rp@comc@st.net> wrote in news:KO-dnXpnzeu-
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I won't support in financially or emotionally but will not shut her out.


Phyllis Nilsson

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And there is the difference; giving help or support does not equate to
giving approval.

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Jeannie helping a friend, despite the fact she apparently screwed up
pretty badly, doesn't mean she is giving approval for what she did.
>

Jeannie

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RaeMorrill <RaeMorri...@no-mx.forums.yourdomain.com.au> wrote in
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> Jeannie helping a friend, despite
> the fact she apparently screwed up pretty badly, doesn't mean she is
> giving approval for what she did. What would a friend do? Leave her out
> on the street, particularly with a child, just because she did something
> wrong - And PARTICULARLY were one considering the situation from a moral
> (Christian in this case) standpoint vis-a-vis what Christ would do.

Very good point - thank you, Rae.

jmorn...@aol.com

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On Oct 6, 3:37 pm, "Kathycarp" <k@thyc@rp@c...@st.net> wrote:
> the vindictive bitch
> -------
>
> I don't understand. You say that like it's a bad thing. <g>

Ha ha, remember I have to stay on your good side.

Janice

Carol V.

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"Judity" <Judi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Any of you women joining me there?
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/05/palin-misquotes-albright_n_131967.html

>
> The more she opens her mouth, the dumber, scarier, and ruder she
> appears.
>
> Isn't ANYONE on her staff checking her speeches beforehand?
>
> Judity
> Just a thought!
> My Books would make inexpensive gifts
> 1,000 Words or Less
> http://tinyurl.com/68fkoo
> Home of the Red Fox
> http://tinyurl.com/yw64ar
>
My concern is why anyone has to go to "Hell" at all. I think that word is
very abrasive.

Carol VP
>


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