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Ac1964

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Oct 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/5/96
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We do a lot of work for Peds.

In our office some think Kindergarten is capitalized, some do not. ???

Bob Willard

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Oct 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/6/96
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Ac1964 wrote:
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> We do a lot of work for Peds.
>
> In our office some think Kindergarten is capitalized, some do not. ???


"Kindergarten" is a German word meaning children's "garden," meaning a
school or playground. In written German all nouns are capitalized. The
German word "Kindergarten" should always be capitalized, but the
commonly-used American bastardization of the word ("kindergarden") should
not be.

Bob

Elizabeth Hug

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Oct 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/6/96
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In <536ldd$c...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> ac1...@aol.com (Ac1964) writes:
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If the school name is attached to "kindergarten," then you'd capitalize
the latter; i.e., "Mary is a student at the Jones School Kindergarten."
Otherwise, I wouldn't use a capital, any more than I'd use it for:
"Mary attends school in the first grade." Isn't kindergarten
considered to be another grade?

Liz

BIRDSONG8

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Oct 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/7/96
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My Harbrace College Handbook, companion for many years, sez:

Proper names begin w/capitals, but names of classes of persons, places or
things do not.

joi

Bob Willard

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Oct 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/7/96
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Liz,

Kindergarden is just like any other coined English word (which it is),
but "Kindergarten" is a German noun that should always be capitalized.

Bob

Elizabeth Hug

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Oct 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/7/96
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In <3258D8...@ix.netcom.com> Bob Willard <rwil...@ix.netcom.com>
writes:

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>Liz,
>
>Kindergarden is just like any other coined English word (which it is),

>but "Kindergarten" is a German noun that should always be capitalized.
>
>Bob
>

Guten Morgan, Bob!

As the product of a German-born father who spoke no English until the
age of 6 when he started school in Philadelphia, I appreciate your
taking me back to my roots.

"When in Berlin do as the Berliners do." (Pardon the paraphrase.)
However, unless I've been paying taxes to the wrong government, I'm
living in the good ole U.S. of A. and as such I feel it is my
unalienable right as an American citizen to "recreate" foreign
languages as I see fit! <g>

But since all the radios are now advertising Oktoberfest (which Germans
snicker at since in Germany, Oktoberfest is, of course in September),
I'll just lay out my husband's Lederhosen and head off to the local
Brauhaus for some Bratwurst cooked in Sauerkraut. Maybe for dessert
they'll serve some apple pie with Streusel topping, or perhaps even
some Stolen!

Anyway, thanks for pointing us all in the right direction...don't know
about others, but I think if the occasion should arise I'll still use
the smaller case "k" for kindergarten!

Liz (whose tongue is firmly planted in cheek this morning)

JulieG0614

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Oct 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/14/96
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If kindergarten is capitalized why not first grade, second grade, etc.
BTW (abbv. no less) why do some accounts want you to capitalize emergency
room, emergency department, etc. but other accounts do not. I was taught
that unless the hospital name is attached to emergency room you do not
capitalize it. It looks ridiculous to me to type Operating Room, Labor
and Delivery, etc.

Just my humble 2 cents worth.

Julie

Cici Clovis

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Oct 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/15/96
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>Ac1964 wrote:
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>> We do a lot of work for Peds.

What, pedophiles?


Cici in Texas
ccl...@mail.gte.net


Cici Clovis

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Oct 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/15/96
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Bob Willard <rwil...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>"Kindergarten" is a German word meaning children's "garden," meaning a
>school or playground. In written German all nouns are capitalized. The
>German word "Kindergarten" should always be capitalized, but the
>commonly-used American bastardization of the word ("kindergarden") should
>not be.


Well, Bob, once again y'all have forced me to revert to the dictionary.
No, not Dorlands, the Other One. (There actually IS another one!) And
according to Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictonary, there ain't no sech
word as "kindergarden" with a D. The word is, in fact, kindergarten with a
T, just like the German spelling. As you point out, German nouns are
always capitalized, but that's not a situation that most transcriptionists
in the USA would ever encounter, unless for some strange reason the
kindergarten was a separate school. The usual situation is for the student
to be attending kindergarten at Blank Elementary School.

The trouble is that kindergarten itself is pretty Blank for a lot of kids,
because too many teachers have to put off teaching letters and numbers in
favor of teaching Civilized Behavior 101 to the small percentage of kids
who come from homes where the course wasn't offered. But that's another
post, and likely another newsgroup, too.


Cici in Texas
ccl...@mail.gte.net


Bob Willard

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Oct 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/15/96
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Julie,

"Kindergarten" with a "t" is a German word. All nouns are capitalized in
written German. "Kindergarden" with a "g" is a common English variation
of the word that follows the normal rules for written English.

When it comes to capitalizing words I'm happy to accommodate whoever is
signing my paycheck.

Bob

CMyers928

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Oct 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/15/96
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Am I the only one who understood Peds = Pediatrics? Was there a
problem with the abbreviation?

KGar41

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Oct 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/15/96
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CMyers wrote...<<Am I the only one who understood Peds=Pediatrics>>>

Nope, we just take our humor wherever we can find it. I thought the
original remark was quite witty and did enjoy a good belly laugh after
reading it.


Kay

Elizabeth Hug

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Oct 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/16/96
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Personally, I thought it was funny! Lighten up, already.

Liz

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Gail M. Hall

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Oct 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/17/96
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cmye...@aol.com (CMyers928) wrote:

>Am I the only one who understood Peds = Pediatrics? Was there a
>problem with the abbreviation?

Actually, no. But when it gets late, some of us get punchy and
want to have a little fun.

Sometimes when I am typing late at night and they use some of
their jargon, a phrase will hit me funny and I just have to
laugh. Like when the doctors say they did a procedure "on the
floor."

I think in a formal report, though, you would type out the word
"pediatrics" even if they dictate the slang form "peds."

Remember, laughter is the best medicine!


--
Gail in Ohio

Gail M. Hall

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Oct 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/17/96
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ccl...@mail.gte.net (Cici Clovis) wrote:

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>
>>Ac1964 wrote:
>>>
>>> We do a lot of work for Peds.
>
>What, pedophiles?
>
>

Or maybe those little "footlets" you can buy at Woolworths. They
are called Peds. <GGGGGGGGGGG>

Here's one my husband found in the paper for a job opening:
"Electronic engineer"

The job description underneath sounded like the person would need
to be human, though.

If we get too wild here, we'll have to move this to Wordplay-L.
It's a mailing list for people who like to play with words.


--
Gail in Ohio

Beverly SC

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Oct 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/18/96
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Since you can't see the person's face or hear voice expression, try
putting either <g> (for "grin"), or <gggg> (for big grin) or simply
<smile> or <grin> when you're making a joke. That way, we can "see" the
emotion!!!! <g.

B

Mitzi Ponce

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Oct 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/18/96
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Gail,

I would be most appreciative for further information on the mailing
list you mentioned. I just can't help but wonder if perhaps this list
isn't exactly what I've been looking for all my life! So, if it
wouldn't be too much trouble, please inform me.

TIA,
Mitz

In <3266f937...@news.apk.net> gmh...@apk.net (Gail M. Hall)
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<<snip>> though.

Cici Clovis

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Oct 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/22/96
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On Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:29:48 GMT, gmh...@apk.net (Gail M. Hall) wrote:

>ccl...@mail.gte.net (Cici Clovis) wrote:

>>
>>
>>>Ac1964 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We do a lot of work for Peds.
>>
>>What, pedophiles?
>>
>>

>Or maybe those little "footlets" you can buy at Woolworths. They
>are called Peds. <GGGGGGGGGGG>

>Here's one my husband found in the paper for a job opening:
>"Electronic engineer"

Batteries not included, I'll bet. *wink*

>The job description underneath sounded like the person would need

>to be human, though.

>If we get too wild here, we'll have to move this to Wordplay-L.
>It's a mailing list for people who like to play with words.

Oh, please, no . . . my kids are already complaining that they're
tired of talking to my ponytail.

But someone (and you know who you are) is quite right, I forgot all my
smileys and smirks, and I hereby present myself for the obligatory
wet-noodle thrashing.


Cici in Texas
ccl...@mail.gte.net


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