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Christy Christensen

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Aug 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/7/00
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Thoughts on the subject of including the phrase dictated but not read to
prevent the doc from being held liable for a mistake in the transcribed not,
this does not mean that the transcriptionist would be held liable either.

Any thoughts?

Linda

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Aug 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/7/00
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I don't know about you, but I don't sign my name to anything without reading
it first.

LCT

MizGriz

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IMO Dictated but not read means, if there's an error in this report I was
too stupid to catch it before I sent it to you.

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Anonymous

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To me the phrase, "Dictated, but not read" just means the doctor was stupid
enough to sign a legal document without reading it. Our signature doesn't
appear on it, we didn't make it a legal document (his signature does that), so
we aren't going to be held liable. Besides, most MTs I know don't have pockets
as deep as a physician.

Christy Christensen wrote:

> Thoughts on the subject of including the phrase dictated but not read to
> prevent the doc from being held liable for a mistake in the transcribed not,
> this does not mean that the transcriptionist would be held liable either.
>
> Any thoughts?

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Mlkcmt

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Aug 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/8/00
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In my opinion, all it does is make the doc look lazy, overextended, or both. I
certainly don't take it as implying that I have responsibility for the content
any more than I would ordinarily assume.

Margie

RaeMorrill

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THis is a lame way for docs to try to avoid liability. It is not supposed to
eliminate it. If they choose not to sign it, they are still liable in my
opinion. Office notes in office I worked in were never even seen by the docs as
a matter of course for years. That was their policy. That doesn't make the MT
liable for it.
Rae Morrill in Maine
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Xena

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Aug 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/8/00
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:37:25 -0400, "Christy Christensen"
<cchrist...@snet.net> wrote:

>Thoughts on the subject of including the phrase dictated but not read to
>prevent the doc from being held liable for a mistake in the transcribed not,
>this does not mean that the transcriptionist would be held liable either.
>
>Any thoughts?

In my contract, I specifically state that the doctors must understand
they are responsible for looking over their work before it gets sent
out or put in the chart. I also state that I do not approve of
"dictated but not read" or electronic signatures/signature stamps done
by other office employees and that if they choose to go that route,
they then absolve me of any responsibility for errors that may be
present in a document they dictated and then sent out without looking
over themselves.

Xena

LoriS

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Where I work, the doc signs the "original" letter going to the
addressee, and the rest (chart copy, cc's, etc) get a dictated
not read stamp.

Lori

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KCunnin502

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Aug 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/8/00
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In article <1885bb7c...@usw-ex0105-035.remarq.com>, LoriS
<lshalala...@canada.com.invalid> writes:

>Where I work, the doc signs the "original" letter going to the
>addressee, and the rest (chart copy, cc's, etc) get a dictated
>not read stamp.
>

I do an overload account where the original letter even gets the "dictated but
not read" blurb on it too. I don't think it would hold water in court, but I
put it on there, anyway, because they've asked me to. But I also have a
disclaimer about the proofreading being their responsibility in my contract and
also on every invoice I send.

In short, I think it's goofy. But I do it because they want the blurb there.

Karen C./KY


RaeMorrill

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Where I work, the doc signs the "original" letter going to the
addressee, and the rest (chart copy, cc's, etc) get a dictated
not read stamp.>>

That makes no sense. If he signed the original, he validated it. My client's
office no longer makes the copies until the originals have been signed.

Linda

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Aug 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/8/00
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The original is what holds up in court more than copies.

Are the physicians that ignorant that they think they are getting away with
something with a simple stamp? When he signs anything, he is accepting it
as being a true document. When YOU sign something and don't read it, it
doesn't matter who typed it, you are still responsible because of your
signature being on it. Why wouldn't a physician be held just as
responsible for something he signs?

Do you think we could go around signing things and then not be held
responsible because of a little stamp saying "not read". How do you think
that would go over in a checkbook? "Yeah, I signed my name to the check for
$10,000 to Cash that I didn't have in my account, but I didn't read it
before I signed it. I had told Joe to make it out for $1,000, not $10,000.
But I am not responsible, see that little stamp there next to my signature
that says "not read".

LCT (Please don't think I am not directing this to you personally, just
jumping in with my 2 ¢ here.)

> Where I work, the doc signs the "original" letter going to the
> addressee, and the rest (chart copy, cc's, etc) get a dictated
> not read stamp.
>

> Lori

Anne in AZ

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We used to have to stamp that on every chart we typed when I
worked in-house some years ago, until the doc and his P.A. went
to a seminar with their malpractice insurance company, where
they were told that the stamp in no way mitigated the
practitioners' liability, and it was pretty much frowned upon by
the malpractice carrier. That was the end of the stamp!

Anne

KCunnin502

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Aug 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/9/00
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In article <LBXj5.2697$H7.5...@news-west.usenetserver.com>, "Linda"
<li...@esslink.com> writes:

>Are the physicians that ignorant that they think they are getting away with
>something with a simple stamp?

Yep, it does appear that some are that ignorant. (I've often thought that
"M.D." stood for "mentally deficient." Then again, I've known a few who could
wear the label of "mentally deranged.")

Karen C./KY


LoriS

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Aug 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/9/00
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Not taken personally...

I think here, it's just a matter of laziness...if we waited for
them to actually sign all of the reports that we type, we would
wait a long time... therefore, we print the copies, and make
sure they get to the chart ASAP, and they others will have to
wait...

HOWEVER, if they are OR's or Discharge Summaries, then the
original Must be signed, no if's, and's, or but's. It's just
the letters and follow-up notes that can go to chart without
being read.

Lori


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Cruelette

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Aug 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/18/00
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>
>Thoughts on the subject of including the phrase dictated but not read to
>prevent the doc from being held liable for a mistake in the transcribed not,
>this does not mean that the transcriptionist would be held liable either.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>
>My doctors only have me transcribe,
"Dictated but not read" when they're going to be out of town. This doesn't
hold me or my subcontractors liable in any manner. The physician is, as always,
solely responsible for the content of his transcripts and correspondence.
>
>
>
>
>

Cruelette

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Aug 22, 2000, 9:29:10 PM8/22/00
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>>Are the physicians that ignorant that they think they are getting away with
>>something with a simple stamp?
>
>Yep, it does appear that some are that ignorant. (I've often thought that
>"M.D." stood for "mentally deficient." Then again, I've known a few who
>could
>wear the label of "mentally deranged.")
>
>Karen C./KY
>

>So, you're inferring it's a breeze to sail through med school? I think we
both know better, now don't we?
>
>
>
>
>


KCunnin502

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Aug 22, 2000, 11:59:02 PM8/22/00
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In article <20000822212910...@ng-mg1.aol.com>, crue...@aol.com
(Cruelette) writes:

>>So, you're inferring it's a breeze to sail through med school? I think we
>both know better, now don't we?

Nope, not inferring it's a breeze to sail through med school, at all. What I
was implying was that some of the docs for whom I've worked in the past seemed
to be ones where "mad scientist" would have been a very appropriate label!

Karen C./KY

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