quercetin protocol
Electric87
lot of other guys, I guess. I am wondering however, if anyone has tried this on
their own, and what the results were. I have been told that the "Quercetin
Plus" formula that Dr. Shoskes patients are using will not be commercially
available for six weeks. If anyone has had success with this bioflavanoid,
which brand was used? I don^t want to wait another six weeks.Anyone??
Brian
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I paid a $11.00 per bottle of 60 capsules(500mgs each) of Quercetin.
Call Metabolic Response Modifiers at (800) 948-6296. (freight handling
charge is $6.50 so order 5-10 bottles at a time) The price is better
than the health food stores around here....
I take 4Xs500mgs per day for a total of 2000mgs. I also take Elavil &
Cardura & fish oil & flax oil daily which has reduced the pain...I still
have a prob with frequency & nocturia but to a lesser extent...What is
doing what? I'm not sure as Elavil is a pain reliever, sleep inducer &
antidepressant...I think this combination is helping me but it may be
the peanuts as I've been eatting alot of these daily....Geeezzz, I don't
know...this is a perplexing disease....
Daniel Shoskes MD
I don't know where you heard that it will take 6 weeks, but it should be
ready much sooner than that. The new "third generation" quercetin
product is called ProstaQ and is made by Farr laboratories in
California. We have samples that we have been using in our own patients
for the past few weeks and have been thrilled at the results which have
been superior so far to the first generation product currently sold by
Metabolic Response Modifiers. In fact, we have switched patients who
were on generic quercetin and doing well to ProstaQ with further
improvements seen.
It has been frustrating for us and our patients to wait for the full
public release of the product while Farr's distribution network is being
put into place. The good news is that since Farr is a major
international company, ProstaQ will soon be available in Canada and
Europe as well. In the meantime, any patient who comes to either of our
offices will be given a bottle at no charge as long as our samples last,
even if they are not currently a patient of ours.
The original paper on bioflavonoids and prostatitis will be published in
about a month, and I am sure that there will immediately be many
imitators on the market trying to cash in on it. The only product that
has been designed based on my research for the past 2.5 years in the lab
and in the clinic is ProstaQ and it is the only one I can fully endorse,
at least for now.
Daniel Shoskes MD
UCLA
http://www.ben2.ucla.edu/~dshoskes
Institute for Male Urology
http://www.urol.com
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Pringle
Dr. Shoskes,
Your news is very encouraging.
I am wondering whether you have been giving this new product to those
with proven inflammation ( WBC in EPS) only, or have you also been
giving this to those in the old prostatodynia category? I have a self
interest in this in that I am probably in the latter category.
Dave
Daniel Shoskes
wrote:
> Dr. Shoskes,
>
> Your news is very encouraging.
>
> I am wondering whether you have been giving this new product to those
> with proven inflammation ( WBC in EPS) only, or have you also been
> giving this to those in the old prostatodynia category? I have a self
> interest in this in that I am probably in the latter category.
>
>
> Dave
The only requirement is that the prostatic fluid culture is negative.
Remember though that we do cultures for at least 5-7 days and that we are
very careful to try to exclude non-prostatic causes for the pain. Given
these parameters though, it does not seem to matter to the response rate
whether WBC are elevated in the EPS, although those with such an elevation
often have the level drop after treatment with ProstaQ.
kj...@hotmail.com
urologist doesn't think I have prostatities, and I seem to agree with
him as my only symptons are frequency and some urgency.
I just started taking Quercetin, today actually, but it's not the third
generation product ProstaQ which I'll obviously will be trying later on.
Daniel Shoskes MD
kj...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Could Quercetin help with just frequency and urgency as well? My
> urologist doesn't think I have prostatities, and I seem to agree with
> him as my only symptons are frequency and some urgency.
>
> I just started taking Quercetin, today actually, but it's not the
third
> generation product ProstaQ which I'll obviously will be trying later
We have seen some men with frequency and urgency as their main
complaints that had improvement with quercetin, but the response rate
seems to be lower than for men with pain. There are many causes of
frequency and urgency that are unrelated to the prostate (eg
neurologic), and I suspect that ProstaQ may not be effective for those.
There seems to be little downside in trying however, at least for 1
month.
Daniel Shoskes MD
UCLA
http://www.ben2.ucla.edu/~dshoskes
Institute for Male Urology
http://www.u
Pringle
I was thinking the same thing. Try it for a month and see what happens.
If it turns out it doesn't help, this might further validate a diagnosis
I once received of having a tight bladder neck.
Dave
Pringle
Dr. Shoskes,
I am interested to know what you mean by "neurologic" causes of
frequency and urgency. Is this the so called "stress induced
prostatitis" sometimes made mention of at this newsgroup or something
else?
Thanks,
Dave
Daniel Shoskes MD
Pringle <prin...@voyageur.ca> wrote:
> I am interested to know what you mean by "neurologic" causes of
> frequency and urgency.
Neurological causes of frequency and urgency could be conditions like
spina bifida, a lumbar disc putting pressure on a nerve, multiple
sclerosis, Parkinson's disease, etc.
Daniel Shoskes MD
UCLA
http://www.ben2.ucla.edu/~dshoskes
Electric87
How much saw palmetto is there in ProstaQ? The label on the bottle gives no
indication. Also, are there any ingredients in the preperation that could
affect coagulation, or cause prolonged bleeding? I just received the ProstaQ,
and have started the protocol.
Sincerely,
Brian
Elect...@aol.com