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jims...@usa.net

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Apr 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/30/98
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Hi -

I have been a sufferer of epididymitis for a
number of years now and wanted to share some
information with others with similar experience
in the hopes of finding additional or perhaps, more
helpful treatments. When I was first diagnosed, I
went the usual route. My urologist said that I
would probably live with this for the rest of my
life. And indeed, so far I have. It comes and goes.
After a while I started to think about alternative
therapies/treatments and came upon 2 forms
which have helped me, but have not completely
eliminated the problem. First I tried
accupuncture, augmented with chinese herbs. This
helped for a while, but the problem continued to
return. After some time with the accupuncturist I
was seeing then, I stopped, and switched to
Homeopathic remedies, working with a trained,
experienced, and expensive Homeopathist. This
seemed to help quite a bit for me, but again, the
problem would periodically flare up. At this point,
I am once again seeing a chinese herbalist/
accupuncturist who seems to believe he can help
eliminate this.
My initial attack came back around 1990, and was
very painful. However, after that attack, it
basically would come back as a low level, dull
ache, with an occasional sharp twinge in the
right epididymis, upper part of the right testicle,
and radiating along the right side of the groin
area.
Anyway, I wanted to see if there were any
professionals out there with any experience with
patients and these types of treatments. Or, others
with similar treatment experience with their own
problem, and any success/failure with same?

sharpe

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Anonymous

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May 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/1/98
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"John D." <75300...@compuserve.com> wrote:

<Epididymitis is a legitimate topic for discussion here. Where else would
you suggest he bring it up? Do you know of an epididymitis news group?>

Oh I see. Then SMPP is a free-for-all on any issue related to men's
health. I'm glad you clarified that for me.

Anonymous

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May 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/1/98
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"James P. Carruthers" <j...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

<I guess you're right, you are anatomically illiterate. They are separate
structures, but they are most certainly related.>

Hmmm.. by a set of tubes I hear. And the prostate also joins the kidney
via the urethra and ureter. Mind if I open a few kidney threads here? I'll
bet you'll appreciate reading about kidney problems when you come here to
get the latest info on your prostate.

Please note - the epididymis is a valid point for discussion when it is
brought up in relation to prostate problems - so is anything, even the
hairs on your head, or your wife's privates, but to ask questions here
completely unrelated to the prostate, and then to condone it the way you
are, is stupid, and ultimately dilutes interest in the ng for men with CP.
I know I get bored silly when I come here and see multiple posts
cluttering up the place with no relevance whatsoever. Did you enjoy the
recent Piano f**skin debate?


wyzguy

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May 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/1/98
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On 1 May 1998 05:19:11 +0200, nob...@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) wrote:

What the fuck is your problem? Too many digital exams?
What medical proof do you have that the 2 medical conditions are not
linked? The reproductive system is all connected systemically. The
fluid from the prostate flows through the epididymis, therefore it
sure as hell can drop off a few goodies in the testicle.

Anonymous

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May 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/1/98
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'wyzgy' alias 'swoosh' alias 'Dave' alias 'Dave Goldenberg' wrote:

<What the fuck is your problem? Too many digital exams? What medical proof
do you have that the 2 medical conditions are not linked? The reproductive
system is all connected systemically. The fluid from the prostate flows
through the epididymis, therefore it sure as hell can drop off a few
goodies in the testicle>

Actually the fluid from the epididymis flows through the prostate, not the
other way round, not-so-wise guy. You can't even get your plumbing right!

Dave, you're a perfect example of what's wrong here - you're a one-trick
pony who prattles on about vasectomies endlessly, making absurd claims
like 'vasectomy causes prostatitis'. You are one of the 'lost souls'
airing their problems and obsessions here - and you've been doing it for
several years now. But the game is up.

Posting as 'Swoosh', you said:

If any of you out there in cyberland have had a vasectomy
and then developed acute and chronic prostatis or
epididymitis your treatment needs to be handled alot
differently. Your Dr. will probably not recognize the
corelation between the two for medicolegal reasons.It can be
an awful condition.It is called A Late Post Vasectomy
Syndrome. Journal of Urology March 1985 Vol. 134 Drs.
Selkowitz and Schned. The truth is out there!


Subject: Re: Vascetonmy/Goldberg/Prostatitis
From: wyz...@mindspring.com (Dave )
Date: 1997/09/21

ga...@sunchem.chem.uga.edu (John Garst) wrote:
>What I want to know is how "post-vasectomy syndrome" is treated.
>Someone's posting implied that this syndrome includes prostatitis, or
>prostatitis-like symptoms, and then proceeded to say that a patient would
>be wasting his time with regular prostatitis treatment. Well - what is
>the appropriate treatment of "post-vasectomy syndrome"? Is it possible
>that ordinary prostatitis patients could benefit from that treatment?
>John Garst ga...@sunchem.chem.uga.edu

An edidiyectomy will cure the prosititis.


Subject: More Proof
From: wyz...@mindspring.com (Dave Goldenberg)
Date: 1997/09/05

Go to www.graylab.ac.uk/cancernet/600326.htm. I given you nay sayers
enough proof to tie Vasectomy to some serious problems. Face the facts
DOCTORS, the snow job is over. You assholes need to get out of denial.

>Prostatitis post vasectomy and post vasectomy pain syndrome are two
>distinct entities with different causes and treatments. Please do not
>confuse them as it may lead you down a stray path.
>Philip Werthman, MD
>Director, Center for Male Reproductive Medicine
>Los Angeles, CA
>
I guess that you have suffered from Post Vasectomy Syndrome
that includes epididymitis and protatitis? No you just are
the good Dr. telling it from your side of the table. Too bad
you really don't understand the condition or how to resolve
it. We'll call you the Spin Doctor, Doctor. At least you did
not deny its existence like most do. I'll give you creditfor that.
I've been there and suffered for 9 yrs. I am well versedon this
condition.

Subject: MD's: Would you get a Vasectomy?
From: swo...@mindspring.com (swoosh)
Date: 1997/11/02

I wonder how many Uro's out there would even consider having this
procedure done? I wonder if there is a study on those how many male
MD's have gotten snipped?

Subject: Vasectomy Pain
From: Dave Goldenberg <wyz...@mindspring.com>
Date: 1997/03/04

Many men,15%,according to the British Jornal of Urology,suffer from Post
Vasectomy Syndrome,which is rhe same problem most of you guys are having
with your prostate. If you had a V and you can't it cleared up,you need
to read A Late Post Vasectomy Syndrome, 1985 the Journal of Urology.
This is an extremely diblitating problem, that can ruin your your life.
I have this and have already have had 3 surgies and I'm not fixed. Most
Drs. will not tell you about this on their consent form. This is
criminal and must be stopped now. E-mail for more info
wyz...@mindspring.com


John

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May 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/1/98
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Yes, I've had similar problems and believe it or not, the only thing
that seems to help is the way that I sit. If I stay in an almost laying
down position I'm ok. If I sit up straight my right epi hurts lkie hell.
I've done all the meds, advice and alternatives and it just hangs in
there. I really do believe it's for life!
Good luck to you my friend and if you do find something, please pass it
along.

dlc...@pol.net

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May 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/1/98
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In article <354a4e43...@news.mindspring.com>#1/1,
wyz...@yahoo.com wrote:

>
> On 1 May 1998 05:19:11 +0200, nob...@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) wrote:
>
> What the fuck is your problem? Too many digital exams?
> What medical proof do you have that the 2 medical conditions are not
> linked? The reproductive system is all connected systemically. The
> fluid from the prostate flows through the epididymis, therefore it
> sure as hell can drop off a few goodies in the testicle.
>

I'm sure the above poster meant to say that fluid from the epididymis flows
through the prostate instead of vice versa...just wanted to clear that up so
there were no misconceptions regarding the direction of flow of substances in
the male genitourinary tract.

David L. Casey, MD
Denton Urology
http://www.wp.com/dlcasey/urology/homeuro.htm

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