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Folic Acid + B-12 = CANCER

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:43:35 PM11/17/09
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In this massive study of 6837 subjects for 9 years,
the combination of folic acid and B-12 increased cancer,
cancer death, and all-cause mortality.

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/short/302/19/2119?home

The good news is that vitamin B-6 had no significant effect!
Enjoy your B-6!

Mark Thorson

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:49:49 PM11/17/09
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That was me. The USB driver for the Kensington keyboard
apparently interprets being dropped on the floor as a
request to open the identity page in Netscape and change it.

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Nov 17, 2009, 10:46:13 PM11/17/09
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Not surprisingly the Medpage article contains more
information that the JAMA abstract. This causes me to
suspect that I detect some
spin in abstract. The vitamin groups were heavier
smokers or at least had higher nicotine levels so
more cancer would be something one should
expect amongst those groups.

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Mayne also pointed out that the Norwegian researchers used a biomarker
that reflects recent exposure to nicotine (cotinine), and this was
slightly higher in the folic acid/vitamin B12 groups.

Baseline cotinine levels in current smokers were 27.1 μg/L and 27.6 μg/
L in the two folic acid/vitamin B12 groups and 25.7 μg/L and 25.5 μg/L
in the non-folate groups.

"So, it is conceivable that, by chance, these two groups had longer
duration smokers with greater smoking intensity (greater pack-years of
exposure to tobacco)," she said.

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This old non-smoker will continue on his regimen which
includes high folic, high cobalamin, and high betaine.

Trig

Happy Oyster

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Nov 18, 2009, 2:58:16 AM11/18/09
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Interesting festure. ;O)

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Del Cecchi

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Nov 18, 2009, 12:05:27 PM11/18/09
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"+" <nos...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Wow, in 6.3 years, 77 months, 10 percent of the people in the study
got cancer and 15 percent died? That strikes me as a huge
percentage. They had heart disease, so what else is in their history?


Taka

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Nov 19, 2009, 8:51:53 AM11/19/09
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On Nov 19, 2:05 am, "Del Cecchi" <delcecchioftheno...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Remember that all what protects normal cells from oxidative stress
will also prevent apoptosis in the initiated cancer cells. Funny how
the most aggressive cancers express e.g. the detoxification enzymes
like GST (GST foci in liver are routinely used for cancer prediction
in experimental animals) to protect them from lipoxidative stress.
You can either kill the cancers with things like fish oil or take
their promoter (arachidonic acid) away but the latter takes
significantly longer so the cancer has enough time to kill you
beforehand.

Taka

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