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Mark Thorson

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Mar 23, 2008, 12:34:15 AM3/23/08
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tocopherol wrote:
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> Scientific works quoting research performed by Dr. Mark A. Kukucka:

Here's another one:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4183/is_20051128/ai_n15872662

Baltimore-based Belfort Instruments suing fired worker

A Baltimore manufacturer of weather instruments is suing
a fired employee it claims is on an anonymous Internet
rampage. Belfort Instrument says Mark A. Kukucka has been
harassing current Belfort employees via e-mail, calling the
company's customers and partners alleging unethical business
practices, and posting trade secrets on the Internet. Defendant
Kukucka has an alarming history of engaging in such 'anonymous'
Internet attacks against those who he believes may have
slighted him (including past employers), and, absent a TRO,
will continue his historical pattern of making outrageous and
harmful attacks against the material business interests of
Belfort Instrument, reads Belfort's complaint, filed earlier
this month in Baltimore County Circuit Court.

tocopherol

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Mar 26, 2008, 12:24:51 PM3/26/08
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On Mar 23, 12:52 am, Mark Thorson <e...@sonic.net> wrote:

<untruthful lies that have been snipped>

Who would know better about libelous attacks and lawsuits then you Mr.
Thorson!

The lawsuit was dismissed by plaintiff Belfort and Kukucka didn't have
to print a formal retraction like you did (Mark Thorson) when Cell
Tech sued your defamatory ass for libel. There was absolutely no
basis, truth or credence to plaintiff Belfort's wild allegations
regarding Kukucka.... you obviously didn't read the court file!

What you (Mark Thorson) neglected to report was that Plaintiff Belfort
sued Kukucka in retaliation as defendant Kukucka filed whistleblower
case(s) with several federal agencies including the FAA IG's office
regarding criminal wrongdoing by Belfort Instrument Company
(specifically fraud against shareholders under SOX 2002 and offering
gratuities & other gifts to federal employees while seeking federal
approvals/contracts).

Make sure you get it right Mr. Thorson and stop propagating LIES!

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Misc/misc.health.alternative/2005-12/msg00142.html
notes the following about Mr. Thorson:

Mark Thorson LIED AGAIN and wrote:
> "Nothing I said about the algae was a lie or false."

One individual was responsible for a great deal of miscommunication
regarding anatoxin-a, information which is still accessible on many
Internet sites. Cell Tech sued Mark Thorson for posting defamatory
statements about Cell Tech, its products and its personnel to various
Internet or Usenet news groups. Cell Tech's lawsuit against Mr.
Thorson has now been settled.

As part of the settlement agreement, Mr. Thorson has posted the
Retraction Statement that appears below. Although he did retract the
allegations that he had been widely circulating, we all know that one
cannot, with a single correct statement, undo all the harm done by
many mis-statements that continue to circulate.

The following is a retraction statement that Mark Thorson has posted
to various newsgroups:

> Subject: Retraction of Anatoxin-a Primer


> During the last several years, I have from time to time posted to this and other
> newsgroups a file of information called "An Anatoxin-a Primer." I now retract the
> statements made in the Anatoxin-a Primer.


> The Anatoxin-a Primer implied that Super Blue Green Algae from Klamath Lake,
> produced by Cell Tech, contains anatoxin-a (a neurotoxin I characterized as
> addictive), and that Cell Tech deliberately avoids testing for this toxin because
> anatoxin-a is responsible for the effects reported by SBGA users. I have since
> been advised that Cell Tech conducts regular tests that would disclose anatoxin-a
> and that this toxin has never been found in Super Blue Green Algae. I had no
> basis for the suggestions I made in the Anatoxin-a Primer, and I hereby retract it
> in full.


> Mark Thorson

Dictionary definitions for the benefit of Mark Thorson:

Mis-state - to state incorrectly : give a false account of

False - intentionally untrue

Lie - untrue with intent to deceive

n.b. Mark Thorson's name and reputation is synonymous with "to mis-
state, false and to lie." He cannot be relied upon and has zero
credibility in this matter!

Mark Thorson

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Mar 26, 2008, 3:34:13 PM3/26/08
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tocopherol wrote:
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> On Mar 23, 12:52 am, Mark Thorson <e...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> <untruthful lies that have been snipped>

Do you also deny the facts stated here:

http://groups.google.com/group/balt.general/msg/3c20676b35b3a40

tocopherol

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Mar 26, 2008, 2:53:36 PM3/26/08
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On Mar 26, 3:34 pm, Mark Thorson <e...@sonic.net> wrote:

<more unsubstantiated Mark Thorson drivel and lies snipped>

There are no *facts* stated there... just more of the untruthful
propaganda and lies that you Mr. Mark Thorson specialize in
promulgating with malice! Does your boss know what you're doing right
now on company time? Do you think you're immune to another lawsuit?
Like I noted before: Make sure you get it right Mr. Thorson and stop
propagating LIES!

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Misc/misc.health.alternative/...

> a and that this toxin has never been found in Super Blue Green Algae. I had no


> basis for the suggestions I made in the Anatoxin-a Primer, and I hereby retract it
> in full.
> Mark Thorson


Dictionary definitions for the benefit of Mark Thorson:

Mis-state - to state incorrectly : give a false account of

False - intentionally untrue

Lie - untrue with intent to deceive

n.b. Mark Thorson's name and reputation is synonymous with "to mis-
state, false and to lie." He cannot be relied upon and has zero
credibility in this matter!

n.b. Why don't you Mr. Thorson stay on topic (versus straying off
topic with vengeance) and point us all to some of your published
work... or maybe you don't have any! And if you don't have any, then
nobody has quoted you... except in that deserving lawsuit when Cell


Tech sued your defamatory ass for libel.

AGAIN, who would know better about libelous attacks and lawsuits then
you Mr.
Thorson?

Mark Thorson

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Mar 26, 2008, 4:05:13 PM3/26/08
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tocopherol wrote:
>
> On Mar 26, 3:34 pm, Mark Thorson <e...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> <more unsubstantiated Mark Thorson drivel and lies snipped>
>
> There are no *facts* stated there... just more of the untruthful
> propaganda and lies that you Mr. Mark Thorson specialize in
> promulgating with malice! Does your boss know what you're doing right
> now on company time? Do you think you're immune to another lawsuit?
> Like I noted before: Make sure you get it right Mr. Thorson and stop
> propagating LIES!

But you did torch Shimadzu's van, right?

http://groups.google.com/group/balt.general/msg/3c20676b35b3a40

tocopherol

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Mar 26, 2008, 3:27:03 PM3/26/08
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On Mar 26, 4:05 pm, Mark Thorson <e...@sonic.net> wrote:

<even more unsubstantiated Mark Thorson drivel and lies snipped>

Who/what is shimadzu? Now I think I know why people refer to you Mr.
Mark Thorson as both a Bully and a Quack (not in the same sentence):
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=quack+mark+thorson&btnG=Google+Search&safe=on

AGAIN, no *facts* stated there either... just more of the untruthful


propaganda and lies that you Mr. Mark Thorson specialize in
promulgating with malice! Does your boss know what you're doing right
now on company time? Do you think you're immune to another lawsuit?
Like I noted before: Make sure you get it right Mr. Thorson and stop
propagating LIES!

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Misc/misc.health.alternative/...


notes the following about Mr. Thorson:

Mark Thorson LIED AGAIN and wrote:

> "Nothing I said about the algae was a lie or false."

One individual was responsible for a great deal of miscommunication
regarding anatoxin-a, information which is still accessible on many
Internet sites. Cell Tech sued Mark Thorson for posting defamatory
statements about Cell Tech, its products and its personnel to various
Internet or Usenet news groups. Cell Tech's lawsuit against Mr.
Thorson has now been settled.

As part of the settlement agreement, Mr. Thorson has posted the
Retraction Statement that appears below. Although he did retract the
allegations that he had been widely circulating, we all know that one
cannot, with a single correct statement, undo all the harm done by
many mis-statements that continue to circulate.

The following is a retraction statement that Mark Thorson has posted
to various newsgroups:

> Subject: Retraction of Anatoxin-a Primer
> During the last several years, I have from time to time posted to this and other
> newsgroups a file of information called "An Anatoxin-a Primer." I now retract the
> statements made in the Anatoxin-a Primer.
> The Anatoxin-a Primer implied that Super Blue Green Algae from Klamath Lake

> produced by Cell Tech, contains anatoxin-a (a neurotoxin I characterized as
> addictive), and that Cell Tech deliberately avoids testing for this toxin because
> anatoxin-a is responsible for the effects reported by SBGA users. I have since
> been advised that Cell Tech conducts regular tests that would disclose anatoxin

Mark Thorson

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Mar 26, 2008, 4:35:54 PM3/26/08
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tocopherol wrote:
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> On Mar 26, 4:05 pm, Mark Thorson <e...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> <even more unsubstantiated Mark Thorson drivel and lies snipped>
>
> Who/what is shimadzu?

Your former employer, for whom you have been on
a vendetta for many years.

http://groups.google.com/group/balt.general/msg/3c20676b35b3a40

tocopherol

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Mar 26, 2008, 3:41:51 PM3/26/08
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On Mar 26, 4:35 pm, Mark Thorson <e...@sonic.net> wrote:

Not my former employer... you must have me confused with that Terry L.
Adams!

What are you on... a freakin fishing expedition... with NO BAIT no
less!

Speaking of vendetta or vendettas (plural as in your case Mr. Mark
Thorson)...

> newsgroups a file of information called "An Anatoxin-a Primer." I now retrract the

Mark Thorson

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Mar 26, 2008, 4:48:49 PM3/26/08
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tocopherol wrote:
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> On Mar 26, 4:35 pm, Mark Thorson <e...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> Not my former employer... you must have me confused with that
> Terry L. Adams!

No, I haven't. Mark A. Kukucka is a deeply disturbed
individual who worked for Shimadzu, and you have been
carrying out an anti-Shimadzu campaign for over a decade,
in addition to your vendettas against Belfort Instruments
and (of all things) Dunkin' Donuts.

http://groups.google.com/group/balt.general/msg/3c20676b35b3a40

tocopherol

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Mar 26, 2008, 4:02:18 PM3/26/08
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On Mar 26, 4:48 pm, Mark Thorson <e...@sonic.net> wrote:

Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black!

Some forms of paranoia point to irrationality and delusion Mr. Mark
Thorson. Paranoia is often associated with psychotic illnesses,
particularly schizophrenia, although attenuated features may be
present in other primarily non-psychotic diagnoses, such as paranoid
personality disorder Mr. Mark Thorson. Paranoia can also be a side
effect of medication or recreational drugs such as marijuana and
particularly stimulants such as methamphetamine Mr. Mark Thorson.

So why don't you tell us all Mr. Mark Thorson what recreational drugs
you've been abusing (like the many people on usenet who you've also
been abusing). What's wrong Mr. Mark Thorson, can't you climb steps or
gripe your sippy cup anymore? What really ails you Mr. Mark Thorson?
I'd like to recommend a consult in your locale for the professional
help that you really desperately need!

Mark Thorson

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Mar 26, 2008, 5:59:46 PM3/26/08
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tocopherol wrote:
>
> Some forms of paranoia point to irrationality and delusion Mr. Mark
> Thorson. Paranoia is often associated with psychotic illnesses,
> particularly schizophrenia, although attenuated features may be
> present in other primarily non-psychotic diagnoses, such as paranoid
> personality disorder Mr. Mark Thorson. Paranoia can also be a side
> effect of medication or recreational drugs such as marijuana and
> particularly stimulants such as methamphetamine Mr. Mark Thorson.

And you'd be an expert about that, right, Sparky?

Don't bother to answer, I needn't continue this exchange
after your last lunatic rant.

http://groups.google.com/group/balt.general/msg/3c20676b35b3a40

uv_v...@yahoo.com

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Apr 2, 2008, 10:24:06 PM4/2/08
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To whoever is engaged in these anonymous attacks against Dr. Kukucka,
you make yourselves look like the Taliban who constantly move from
hideout to hideout while attacking US soldiers in Afghanistan. You
also sound like henchmen doing Shimadzu's dirty work. Does Shimadzu
employ you? It makes me wonder. Shimadzu wouldn't be the first nor
last corporation to engage in such disgusting work if true. You need
to cut your nails and ask yourselves some basic questions: 1) are
these anonymous attacks helping your cause, 2) are these anonymous
attacks helping Shimadzu's bottom line, 3) is your anonymity a
guaranteed thing? I think "not" to all three questions. The FBI always
find those kids calling in bomb threats to their local schools.
Somebody, with little effort, could find your smelly asses too. I
wouldn't buy anything from Shimadzu knowing what I now know
particularly after considering the ruthless ways you (and maybe
Shimadzu) have trashed someone anonymously. If you had any spines, you
wouldn't be hiding like the Taliban behind rocks along the
mountainside. The mere fact that some of your writings mention trying
to get Dr. Kukucka fired while also trying to deny future employment
speaks volumes. There is no doubt in my mind that a court would reward
substantial punitive damages to Dr. Kukucka just like the courts are
doing where Dr. Steven J. Hatfill's reputation is concerned. Which
office does Dr. Kukucka go to to get his reputation back? A fair
question I think. A Medline search indicates that Dr. Kukucka is well
published distinguished scientist. He didn't become a scientist, with
no less than two doctoral degrees I might add, by chance. You call him
a lunatic but what do you think it makes yourselves look like when you
respond to his supposed posts? I gotta tell you that you look more
luny than he does when responding to a so-called lunatic. And I don't
believe for a second that he would waste his time giving you the time
of day. He surely has better things to do, and so should yourselves,
unless you really are certifiable lunatics who have nothing better to
do than to attack relentlessly like employed corporate bullies while
scurrying to cover your cowardly tracks. None of you have ever
presented a shread of evidence that Dr. Kukucka is responsible for any
of this monkey business concerning Shimadzu. It's poppycock that
you've concocted in your feeble minds and authored anonymously. And
then you quote this luny crap in future posts thinking it's now part
of the scientific method. It's not. What does it say about Shimadzu
that they advertise on Craigslist.com to find a Mass Spec scientist? I
would expect to find a call girl on Craigslist before I'd ever find a
scientist. Besides, I'd have to wonder about Shimadzu a lot if they
did hire someone from Craigslist. And to you who claim to have or use
Shimadzu instrumentation, please share your peer-reviewed papers with
all of us. Dr. Kukucka seems to have already done that. And many from
around the world have quoted his research in their own works. Now it's
your turn. And I'm not talking about another cowardly attack from the
henchmen who are masquerading like terrorists in this newsgroup.
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