SOY
JOHN
anon...@nowhere.you.know
The problem of the above group is their failure for being scientifically
dishonest. They pick only studies which line up with the view they want
to project. One can find other web sites, also food cults, who pick the
studies wich fit their agendas..
For each study showing some topic about soy one can find in the
literature one which says the oppisite or comes to a greatly different
conclusion. For example, some studies show soy related to the risk of
some cancers while others show soy reduces risk and might prevent cancer
and others conclude it makes no difference in risk. There are web sites
which are honest and look at the entire range on the topic of soy.
JOHN
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discernement
anon...@nowhere.you.know
>
> The problem of the above group is their failure for being
scientifically
> dishonest. They pick only studies which line up with the view they
want
> to project. One can find other web sites, also food cults, who pick
the
> studies wich fit their agendas..
>
> For each study showing some topic about soy one can find in the
> literature one which says the oppisite or comes to a greatly different
> conclusion. For example, some studies show soy related to the risk of
> some cancers while others show soy reduces risk and might prevent
cancer
> and others conclude it makes no difference in risk. There are web
sites
> which are honest and look at the entire range on the topic of soy.
>
"discernement"
No, is to ask to insert individual opinion, science instead and most of
all honesty in considering what it shows.
JOHN
<anon...@nowhere.you.know> wrote in message
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>
> No, is to ask to insert individual opinion, science instead and most of
> all honesty in considering what it shows.
You can bet all the soy-is-wonderful studies are produced by the soy
indistry just like all the aspartame ones are done by GD Serle, and all the
MMR is safe ones are done by the industry etc ect
pretty simple really, but I expect you know that
Ron Peterson
> You can bet all the soy-is-wonderful studies are produced by the soy
> indistry just like all the aspartame ones are done by GD Serle, and all the
> MMR is safe ones are done by the industry etc ect
You're relying on the Weston Price group which has a fear of microwave
cooking and root canals.
There is plenty of research that isn't financed by large agribusiness
establishments, so broaden your perspectives rather than relying on
some organization that may be financed by beef producers or the
tropical oil industry.
--
Ron
anon...@nowhere.you.know
of
> all honesty in considering what it shows.
"You can bet all the soy-is-wonderful studies are produced by the soy
indistry just like all the aspartame ones are done by GD Serle, and all
the MMR is safe ones are done by the industry etc ect
pretty simple really, but I expect you know that"
You will of course have to show "all" are and more important that "all"
are fraudulent for being so, that burden falls upon you as it is your
assertion. Who then does all the soy is bad research and which industry
interest is served? Who then does the soy has no effect one way or the
other?
I don't care who does it, I want good science to be used, for it to be
published in an accepted journal and for results to be out there for
others to attempt to disprove it based in turn on good science. The
propaganda tactic of accusing others of being fraudulent based on who is
asking the questions is now pretty thread thin without specific proof in
each case.
One might remind you that your original post falls within the same
accusation you suggest as it is completely one sided and thus dishonest
in not doing proper science and considering the entire range of research
done. Mention of other products is irrelevant.
TC
> On Sep 9, 3:30 am, "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > You can bet all the soy-is-wonderful studies are produced by the soy
> > indistry just like all the aspartame ones are done by GD Serle, and all the
> > MMR is safe ones are done by the industry etc ect
>
> You're relying on the Weston Price group which has a fear of microwave
> cooking and root canals.
They "fear" microwave cooking for good reasons. And there is something
to their concerns over root canals. Teeth aren't just inanimate
objects sitting in your mouth, they are part of the living organism
and are much more complex than just some calcium and a root..
>
> There is plenty of research that isn't financed by large agribusiness
> establishments, so broaden your perspectives rather than relying on
> some organization that may be financed by beef producers or the
> tropical oil industry.
>
> --
> Ron
Show me how the weston price org is financed by any big agribusiness.
anon...@nowhere.you.know
> cooking and root canals.
"They "fear" microwave cooking for good reasons. And there is something
to their concerns over root canals. Teeth aren't just inanimate
objects sitting in your mouth, they are part of the living organism
and are much more complex than just some calcium and a root.."
What concerns and don't you think dentists know that and act
accordingly? The proceedure is usually a last resort to avoid
extraction.
>
> =A0There is plenty of research that isn't financed by large
agribusiness
> establishments, so broaden your perspectives rather than relying on
> some organization that may be financed by beef producers or the
> tropical oil industry.
>
> --
> =A0 =A0Ron
Show me how the weston price org is financed by any big agribusiness. ""
That is not the real concern for there dishonest misuse of science.
They cherry pick only those results which agree with their agenda. A
honest approach considers all results and discusses the pros and cons of
the range. Theri action makes them only propagandists.
If one looks at the studies they pick one might find the answer to your
question. It makes no difference to the agribiz folk, we will sell you
soy or we will sell you the meat it produces they will be happy to
observe.