Faxing the McSweegan crap all over the planet
Kathleen
1986 letter to Barry Goldwater.
Tick bite and BOGUS ARTICLE CONSPIRACY.
etc.
K
Chuck P Adams
>Date: 3/23/2004 2:52 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Literally.
>
>1986 letter to Barry Goldwater.
>
>Tick bite and BOGUS ARTICLE CONSPIRACY.
>
Oh my God
a_we...@hotmail.com
Did you know that it is a violation of Federal Law to FAX unsolicited
to people punishable by $500 per incident meaning each FAX?
Another crime being committed by kathloon
Lisam01502
>>
>> Tick bite and BOGUS ARTICLE CONSPIRACY.
>>
>> etc.
>>
>> K
>
>Did you know that it is a violation of Federal Law to FAX unsolicited
>to people punishable by $500 per incident meaning each FAX?
>
>Another crime being committed by kathloon
>
Gee, what would make a Lyme patient so beloved of McSweegan that he loses sleep
over trivial nonsense like unsolicited faxes, but not over the CONTENT of the
fax, and not over the fact that McSweegan and durland Fish conspired to send a
bogus article to the Lyme Disease Foundation?
Lyme psychosis? Maybe.
But I have my money on a different one.
You're no Lyme patient, you're a dirty Steere camp swine, Weisman. Your name is
on the list.
Lisa
Rowe Rickenbacker
> Did you know that it is a violation of Federal Law to FAX unsolicited
> to people punishable by $500 per incident meaning each FAX?
Why, then, is it legal to send unsolicited email?
Rowe
--
http://tom.staight.net
Lisam01502
>feel sorry for someone who thinks the world is about them and nothing
>but them.
>
Kathleen is traumatized because she has had her kids taken away from her by
social services under a totally false and unsubstantiated allegation. Worse,
her children have been transferred to a man with a history of violence against
them.
Under these circumstances is it any wonder she is posting erratically?
I don't know if you know anything about her history, but she was one of the
first people to expose the fact that the LymeRix vaccine was dangerous (as well
as ineffective), so that it eventually had to be pulled off the market. Her
efforts may have saved thousands of people from developing a Lyme-like illness,
breast tumors, having miscarriages etc as a result of that vaccine. She also
has done a great service to the Lyme community by exposing a whole range of
fraudulent scientific claims made by the Steere camp.
There is evidence that her predicament was not just the result of relatives
mischief but of an attempt to destroy her by the Steere camp itself. It's easy
to slag someone off over the internet when you know little or nothing about
them. Ifd you want to talk about psychosis, why don't you talk about
"ChuckpAdams" for example? Kathleen's mails are not going to harm anyone, and
still contain many factual truths about the Lyme fraud. Chuck obsessively
posting, over and over, that McSweegan crap about Lyme being "easily cured in
3 weeks" and not being transmissible to the unborn baby is really dangerous
stuff, that could lead to an uninformed reader losing their health permanently,
or losing their baby. turn your anger on him, not on Kathleen Dickson.
Lisa
PrincessRobyn70
to talk to some pretty prominent people involved with Lyme Disease, they are
aware of her. Admit she has some knowledge yet she skews her facts and they
also say she's gone off the deep end and if she was ever to be taken seriously
she isn't any longer because of all her email and posting ravings..So
unfortunately for Kathleen which I don't think she even realizes it (grandios
dilusionalls usually can't) she's screaming into a tornado. Noone hears her or
cares too.
Lisam01502
>to talk to some pretty prominent people involved with Lyme Disease, they are
>aware of her. Admit she has some knowledge
But are they aware of you, Princess Diarrhea, and what a nut you are? You and
your crazy boyfriend who posts that shit by McSweegan 100 times a week?
Do us a favour and piss off back to alt.desperate.birdbrain where you came
from.
Lisa
Kathleen
> turn your anger on him, not on Kathleen Dickson.
> > Lisa
>
> monomaniacal and completely self-absorbed to put all her personal
> frothings on a newsgroup for lyme. If she has some idea she needs to
> protect herself by public airings of all things, then she can do that
> on her webpage or just make her own blog and upload every few minutes
> if she wants. There is no reason to hijack a newsgroup. But what do
> I care, it's not my newsgroup and I am not here very often, I just
> feel bad for people who don't know how to search out a good newsgroup
> and end up here.
My kids have Lyme you asshole.
The State says I am insane to
do activism, and INSANE to be
saying Lyme is RICO and filing
a RICO complaint, when what they
Hell have YOU done for activism?
Or ANYONE ELSE?
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HELP the situation
and not just about kids who have Lyme
but everyone else?
FIRST the State said I was a bad
[arent for not institutiong the kids
504 plan, for congenital Lyme,
which was NOT TRUE. *THEN* they
said I don't have Lyme.
The DCF are TOTAL MORONS.
Morons With Opinions.
Kathleen
Ron
"Kathleen" <kathleen...@snet.net> wrote in message
news:f46dbd96.0403...@posting.google.com...
> jill...@yahoo.com (jill ellen) wrote in message
news:<32779e16.0403...@posting.google.com>...
> > turn your anger on him, not on Kathleen Dickson.
> > > Lisa
> >
> > I'm well aware of how smart she is but that doesn't help. It's
> > monomaniacal and completely self-absorbed to put all her personal
> > frothings on a newsgroup for lyme. If she has some idea she needs to
> > protect herself by public airings of all things, then she can do that
> > on her webpage or just make her own blog and upload every few minutes
> > if she wants. There is no reason to hijack a newsgroup. But what do
> > I care, it's not my newsgroup and I am not here very often, I just
> > feel bad for people who don't know how to search out a good newsgroup
> > and end up here.
>
>
> My kids have Lyme you asshole.
>
> The State says I am insane to
> do activism, and INSANE to be
> saying Lyme is RICO and filing
> a RICO complaint, when what they
> Hell have YOU done for activism?
The state is right katie, you are a bit beyond nuts.
> Or ANYONE ELSE?
More than you dearie. Far more. But I only get called names for it in the
news groups, then again I'm not a nutcase and you are.
Ron
Sinaj101
>just hope people with lyme can use google and get to some other place
>like lymenet, if they need help.
LymeNet? Ya right! Where they moderate everything you say and if they don't
like or agree then they edit it out? (example: ICHT) Everyone should have a
right to discuss any form of alternatives and give both sides good and bad.
Not just what the moderators think is appropriate. Heck I posted a positive
article that was on the web and had the address where it could be found posted
and it was removed. So I figure all LymeNet wants is whining along with what
most Lyme message boards other than this one seem to want. Sure I put up with
some crazy people here but at least I can hear both sides of everything. Not
just what someone else wants me to read. We aren't children although Chuck
does act like some spoiled child on a playground. I'll stay here thank you and
put up with _ucked up Chuck.
Kathleen
Some people say some of these boards
are actually managed by the bad guys.
Meant to make us all look like whiney
insane fools.
This is surely the case with the CFS and
Fibromyalgia newsgroups.
Run by "Insurance Medicine."
Kathleen
Kathleen
http://www.actionlyme.com/Schoen.htm
And who the HELL are you? Where's your
website and science?
What a flaming self-absorbed useless asshole.
Typical male.
You almost NEVER hear of the FATHER's doing activism.
Kathleen
"Ron" <apositi...@netscape.net> wrote in message news:<C7O8c.8928$pd1.1968@okepread04>...
Chuck P Adams
>Date: 3/26/2004 10:14 AM Eastern Standard Time
>My kids have LYME, ASSHOLE.
No they don't. They had a insane mother who told them they had lyme.
>And who the HELL are you? Where's your
>website and science?
Your website is a mess, going in all directions like you.
>Typical male.
>
>You almost NEVER hear of the FATHER's doing activism.
another example of you being a man hater.
You will never get your kids back you Loon. Lets hope the state stops you from
calling and writting them too because you are a danger to yourself and others.
I hope they put you in a institution for life and I can drive by and laugh thru
the fence at you.
jill ellen
> >just hope people with lyme can use google and get to some other place
> >like lymenet, if they need help.
>
There is still very good information on there, especially the stuff on
the site. And though they moderate, I recently asked a question about
igenex vs stonybrook vs quest, for a friend (i never paid much
attention to testing because i had a bullseye, 2 positive stonybrook
tests and a positive c6 peptide, so i never had to 'worry') and i got
very good useful answers, so I'm sending my friend to igenex.
Here--people who wondered if they had lyme, who were hearing
contradictory answers, would read some of kathleen's postings and
assume their doctors were right when they said, you don't have lyme
and people on those internet groups are crazy.
you may be happy here but it doesn't serve such people well, and there
are a lot of people out there who don't know much about chronic lyme.
jill ellen
> and not just about kids who have Lyme
> but everyone else?
In the end, I will probably do more than you, but I'm not ready yet.
You will see.
But what does my activism or lack of it have to do with posting your
private life and ravings all over this newsgroup? Why don't you make
a blog for your Don Dickson stuff?
Lisam01502
>contradictory answers, would read some of kathleen's postings and
>assume their doctors were right when they said, you don't have lyme
>and people on those internet groups are crazy.
>
I think that anyone who has spent any length of time on any internet group
would know that there are individuals on every group who post eccentric stuff,
bizarre stuff, incomprehensible stuff , off-topic material, pornography , you
name it. I think most people ignore those kind of posts and move on.
I have told Kathleen that most people would not understand her posts these
days, but I'm also aware that she is doing it because she is in a horrendous
situation and feels the only way she can guarantee her children's safety is to
continually name and shame everyone involved.
Far more dangerous to a newcomer, I think, is someone who posts articles that
are clear well-written, appear scientifically well-grounded, but are 100%
false. And those crappy McSweegan articles that Chuck keeps posting are a good
example.
A woman with Lyme wanting to start a family could read the article on pregnancy
and believe that Lyme was not transmissible to the unborn child, go ahead and
end up with a miscarriage, a terribly disabled child, or a stillborn baby.
Likewise a chronically ill Lyme patient who had already had three weeks doxy
and was not better, could read the nonsense about Lyme being cured in three
weeks and think -well it could not be Lyme then, my doctor must be right.
And spend the rest of his life suffering and disabled as a result.
How many people must have read the Steere camp nonsense abotu 80-90% of Lymies
having a bullseye rash and thought - well, I didn't have that, so it's not
Lyme?
Those are the real dangerous writers. And sadly, because they have the backing
of big insurance money, big biotech money, and (via the military) the
government itself, they are in the driving seat, our good doctors are
vilified, and us patients - left to rot as a result.
Lisa
Lisam01502
>I hope they put you in a institution for life and I can drive by and laugh
>thru
>the fence at you.
>
Chucky, you can already laugh through the fence at the whole of Lymeland. But I
don't think you can "drive by". I don't think your zookeeper would allow it.
You can also throw your banana peels at us, and we'll throw you some peanuts.
Have a nice day, gorilla.
Lisa
a_we...@hotmail.com
> >It's hard to
> >feel sorry for someone who thinks the world is about them and nothing
> >but them.
> >
>
> Kathleen is traumatized because she has had her kids taken away from her by
> social services under a totally false and unsubstantiated allegation.
Bullshit. Her kids were taken away because of her own words and deeds
and her STRUPIDITY in listening to YOU.
> Worse,
> her children have been transferred to a man with a history of violence against
> them.
She alleges that but nothing backs that up. And even if true all it
shows is that SHE is WORSE than him in the eyes of the experts. ALL of
them.
> Under these circumstances is it any wonder she is posting erratically?
She has been posting "erratically" (if by that you mean insane lunacy)
for YEARS long prior to the DCF thing.
> I don't know if you know anything about her history, but she was one of the
> first people to expose the fact that the LymeRix vaccine was dangerous (as
Bullshit. She makes lots of claims. She had nothing to do with getting
Lymerix off the market. Her rambling off topic and frankly bizzare
presentation to the FDA had no effect. The vaccine was coming off the
market long before that.
She could just as easily take credit for the sun rising. It did but
that doesn't prove she had anything to do with it.
>well
> as ineffective), so that it eventually had to be pulled off the market. Her
> efforts may have saved thousands of people from developing a Lyme-like illness,
> breast tumors, having miscarriages etc as a result of that vaccine. She also
> has done a great service to the Lyme community by exposing a whole range of
> fraudulent scientific claims made by the Steere camp.
bullshit.
> There is evidence that her predicament was not just the result of relatives
> mischief but of an attempt to destroy her by the Steere camp itself.
If by "evidence" you mean your bizzare claims. If by "evidence" you
mean proof, no there isn't and of course allen steere or his "camp"
had nothing to do with it. Even kathloon claims that it started with
her own family NOT with "the steere camp." In fact there isn't any
"evidence" that there even is a "steere camp."
IF you have real "evidence" then post it or shut the fuck up already
you lunatic bitch nazi loving monster mom.
> It's easy
> to slag someone off over the internet when you know little or nothing about
> them.
Yes it is easy which is why 98% of your posts do exactly that (the
other 2% kiss up to kathloon your lesbian lover).
>Ifd you want to talk about psychosis, why don't you talk about
> "ChuckpAdams" for example? Kathleen's mails are not going to harm anyone,
They harm the credibility of all of Lymeland. They harm the
reputations of good honest civil serveants scientists and researchers
(even if you or even I disagree with them about Lyme).
> and
> still contain many factual truths about the Lyme fraud.
Factual truths? You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in your fat
cellulite filled ass lisa you nazi whore.
> Chuck obsessively
> posting, over and over, that McSweegan crap about Lyme being "easily cured in
> 3 weeks" and not being transmissible to the unborn baby is really dangerous
> stuff,
I haven't seen him post that.
>that could lead to an uninformed reader losing their health
permanently,
> or losing their baby. turn your anger on him, not on Kathleen Dickson.
> Lisa
Kathloon is the one who ruined this newsgroup. And you. No one else.
a_we...@hotmail.com
> > Lisa
>
Smart? She's the stupidest person ever. She listens to lisa not her
lawyers. She threatens government officials who make decisions about
her case. She threatened to drive her kids into a lake and mentioned
susan smith. She threatened to bomb the stonington ct schools after
engaging in a screaming argument with the principal. she showed up to
visit her kids at their "safe house" with a bag filled with drugs. She
refuses now to visit her kids. She posts all the details of her
disgusting pathetic life and legal case all over the internet.
She's stupider than forrest gump.
Lisam01502
<Her rambling off topic and frankly bizzare
presentation to the FDA had no effect. The vaccine was coming off the
market long before that.>
Are you talking about her verbal presentation at the FDA hearing, or a written
document she sent them, and if so, which one?
Second question. You wrote:
>They harm the
>reputations of good honest civil serveants scientists and researchers
>(even if you or even I disagree with them about Lyme).
Who are the "good honest civil servants, scientists and researchers" in the
Lyme world you believe she is harming? Can you name the individuals you are
talking about?
Oh what the hell, I can't resist asking a third question:
How can you tell I have a " fat
>cellulite filled ass" and that I am a "nazi whore" when you have never met me
in all your life, never seen a photo of me, never even spoken to anyone who
knows me personally? (For the record, I do sometimes get made fun of for my
looks, but for being too thin rather than too fat. You think it's funny to call
me a nazi, when I have told you twice now that I am a descendant of Holocaust
victims, with over a dozen members of the family killed by real Nazis.I think
the fact that you keep insulting me this way says a whole lot more about what
you are than what I am.
As for whore, no, I'm not that either, but I think it's a more respectable way
to make a living than mixing up virulent borrelia strains on Plum Island,
screwing the whole Lyme community (medically speaking) on behalf of Blue
Cross/Blue Shield, or making the western blot dance for Glaxo Smith Kline.
Have a nice day, Wisey.
Lisa
jill ellen
handle scientific material and understand it. Probably still can to
some extent. But yes, everything you talk about is crazy.
a_we...@hotmail.com (a_we...@hotmail.com) wrote in message news:<24386ddb.04032...@posting.google.com>...
jill ellen
> days, but I'm also aware that she is doing it because she is in a horrendous
> situation and feels the only way she can guarantee her children's safety is to
> continually name and shame everyone involved.
She can make a blog. Blogs are timestamped. They're totally easy to
make. They have influenced regular journalism a great deal because
sometimes they scoop t.v. and newspapers. Her blog could achieve her
aim without making the newsgroup her personal gripe board.
> Far more dangerous to a newcomer, I think, is someone who posts articles that
> are clear well-written, appear scientifically well-grounded, but are 100%
> false. And those crappy McSweegan articles that Chuck keeps posting are a good
> example.
And you know, you're wrong about newsgroups. I'm on some fantastic
newsgroups where there are no fights and lots of great info. It's not
fair to blame the internet. Not talking about lymenet either--that's
not bad, but not great either. OTOH people do post on lymenet fairly
regularly that it saved their lives.
a_we...@hotmail.com
> > > I
> > >just hope people with lyme can use google and get to some other place
> > >like lymenet, if they need help.
> >
> > LymeNet? Ya right! Where they moderate everything you say and if they don't
> > like or agree then they edit it out? (example: ICHT) Everyone should have a
> > right to discuss any form of alternatives and give both sides good and bad.
> > Not just what the moderators think is appropriate. Heck I posted a positive
> > article that was on the web and had the address where it could be found posted
> > and it was removed. So I figure all LymeNet wants is whining along with what
> > most Lyme message boards other than this one seem to want. Sure I put up with
> > some crazy people here but at least I can hear both sides of everything. Not
> > just what someone else wants me to read. We aren't children although Chuck
> > does act like some spoiled child on a playground. I'll stay here thank you and
> > put up with _ucked up Chuck.
>
>
> Some people say some of these boards
> are actually managed by the bad guys.
Do you mean that "the bad guys" are controlling usenet? LOL Yeah the
same ones who are tapping your phone? LOL
Or do you mean that "the bad guys" are controlling Lymenet? THAT is
true. The bad guys being the Bachman morons and "tincup" and other
imbeciles like that.
> Meant to make us all look like whiney
> insane fools.
Kathloon YOU make us all look insane. And other Lymies including those
on Lymenet make us all look whiney uninformed and ignorant and
extreme.
> This is surely the case with the CFS and
> Fibromyalgia newsgroups.
Yawn. Do the conspiracy theories NEVER end?
> Run by "Insurance Medicine."
Yawn. Ridiculous.
> Kathleen
kathlOOn is the correct spelling
Lisam01502
>make. They have influenced regular journalism a great deal because
>sometimes they scoop t.v. and newspapers.
It's an idea.
>And you know, you're wrong about newsgroups. I'm on some fantastic
>newsgroups where there are no fights and lots of great info.
I was talking about the unmoderated Usenet newsgroups like this one. No group
moderated by Lymies would tolerate the dangerous disinfo posted by Weisman and
Chuck, and their various screen names.
Lisa
Sinaj101
>and was not better, could read the nonsense about Lyme being cured in three
>weeks and think -well it could not be Lyme then, my doctor must be right.
>
>And spend the rest of his life
>suffering and disabled as a result.
>
Or worse as in dead after a few years. Chuck and a_weisman don't give a shit
about people or how many suffer with this disease. I certainly hope they get
their day with this because then they would see how dead wrong they are but
guess what? It would be a little too late. You know what else? In my many
years I have seen it happen many times....What goes around comes around. If
Lyme doesn't happen to them then I am sure something else will that may be a
lot worse than what we all have gone through. Fate sort of has a way of
getting even with shitheads. Just wait and see you smart ass's. Something
down the road will come back on you and just remember the people you harrassed.
Your day is coming know-it-all's.
Kathleen
Because I exposed the DCF to be a fraud of a child protection agency
and quite out of their minds, they were furious and placed the kids
with a KNOWN child-abuser, JUST for out of vindictiveness.
"SOCIOPATHS" do not get better, and that was the point of Dr. Ruffner
lending me a book with such a title, and the reason he said, "I can't
*FIX* your husband for you. Sociopaths are *born* that way. They
*stay*
that way."-- J. David Ruffer, MD, 1995.
Because the DCF knows this, and knows it to be true that Don Dickson
can't keep his pants on, is violent, has tons of brain damage from
all the years of drinking and drugs, and BECAUSE the DCF knows Don
Dickson is truly a sociopath and only cares about himself, and BECAUSE
Don Dickson is known to have ROADRAGE *with* absense seizures, the DCF
placed the children with Donald Dickson.
If ever there was a case about which we could demonstrate that CPS has
an integrity and competency rating in the negative numbers, this is
it.
What DCF does not want, is for me to expose all of their insanity, and
least of all be proving it, on my website, ActionLyme.com.
Therefore, the CT DCF tried to arrest me or commit me about 10 times
in all.
Not only will we hear about this on newsgroups and the list I copy to,
we will hear about this elswehere, and the Orwellian entity known as
"Child Protective Services" will cease to exist as we now know it,
and that is what they fear the most. http://www.massoutrage.com
What they fear the most, is exposure, therefore you come here, and not
only tell me all about my "case" before even *I* hear about it, I know
my phone is tapped, I was forewarned of being committed by Kenneth
Marcus.
The DCF showed up with about 6 extra guards and DCF "staff", on Dec 9,
2003, and the play-by-play, you, weisman, spelled out here ahead of
time,
was executed in the kourtroom. I brought my own plastic handcuffs
and wore an extra-long striped shirt that could double as a straight
jacket. Later the security guard wanted to see these handcuffs, and
I cracked up, because they were plastic, and how else could I have
gotten them through the metal detector?
The drugs were intended for my lawyer, but we entered instead a copy
of
the Rx's from the pharmacy as evidence, so I did not need the actual
bottles to prove Phillips gave me every kind if drug there is, except
the ProVigil I asked for in 9/2000.
Because THEN he said, "I think you need to be on medication, I just
don't know what kind." Proving the DCF was telling *MY* Psychiatrist
what to do. MORONS instructing a doctor I had known for 25 years.
Then they had him perjure himself in the kourtroom. Fortunately his
testimony was conflicting, and altogether made no sense. "Kathleen
Dickson would not hurt her children," and "Only wants the best for
them."
But I have command hallucinations? And we never heard this before
from
a Forensic Psychiatrist for the State? And that I pitied Gauvin meant
I would kill her? Resolving the two, the DCF even screwed with the
Psychiatrist's head, and what then does THAT mean about Psychiatry?
What then does that say about the CT DCF? They are evil and vicious
and the WORST excuses for humans that ever walked the earth, and
*THIS*
will become well-known, so that the Public can be protected from them.
The "Lake Driving" came from the ever-credible Don Dickson, and of
course, I have the kids on tape saying these allegations were not
true.
The DCF and Donald Dickson have completely ruined my kids, and told
them
all sorts of nonsense about me.
This of course, makes me ever more resolved that CPS will come undone,
as we now know it. Legislate an intelligence, competence, and
accountability, requirement, and that the kourts be open to the Public
to validate the children's traumas.
You would not have seen the BS and nonsense that happened in that
kourtroom, were it not for the closed kourts. You would have not
seen
this nitwitnesses INVENT things, like the school staff, if the school
staff knew other staff would be there at the trial --because, they are
not allowed to talk about being in a trial-
--imagine how exciting that is to a moron telephone-answerer or
food service aid- to be in a REAL TRIAL, and "I can't talk about it.
It's top secret. I am sworn to secrecy by the State." You should
have seen the hair, make up, and them wearing their best clothes ever.
I am sure they went shopping before the trial, so they could make a
good kourt appearance. It was truly a crack up.
I was eventually expecting one of the nitwitnesses to say, "SHE TURNED
ME INTO A NEWT!!"
All they do, is lie. If they have to do so much lying, clearly their
interest is not in the protection of children, and if they are so
incredibly stupid, how can anyone trust such decision-making to such
total morons? They changed what they were charging me with for a
sum total of 4 charges, and dropped entirely a some 30 point
"petition".
How many times do they do that here in CT? All they do, is lie.
The last thing the DCF wants, is for me to be exposing what they do.
And the last thing the Lyme crooks want, that is, Managed Care (and
clearly the CDC, since they would dare to 1) Not show up at Mr.
Blumenthal's hearing, and 2) try to not answer the question about
whether the CDC's new (1994) and bogus blood testing for Lyme
is valid and useful), is for it to be discovered that I am exactly
right about that too. It can't be stopped. Lyme disease is a fraud,
as was LYMErix, and they are the same fraud. Lyme borreliosis, or
ANY borreliosis is detectable. Like to 95%, and that is conservative.
CDC said to Mr. Blumenthal that the Lyme testing is not accurate,
but then again they published that it is not, in the GAO report.
So, how could they have qualified a vaccine?
They said their two-tiered method is only 30% accurate, and that
would simply be based on the prevalence of the haplotype that
expresses
the arthritis presentation, since Mark Klempner ALSO said, "THIS is
the criteria" for "Lyme disease".
Lenny Sigal published that everything else, is "Lyme Borreliosis".
There is no HMO or medical code for that.
Your hatred and lies, and harassment, please do carry on. Enough
people are aware of the total nonsense that occurs in this country
every day, as far as the Republican interpretation of "What is
healthcare?"
Now we know what is the Republican Interpretation of "What is
childcare?"
And "No child left behind" resulted in more children left behind,
because the municipal cash went into responding to all the paperwork,
and Bush did not fund it.
You'd have to be a total sl*t or moron to be a Republican and to buy
into the nonsense that tax cuts stimulate economic growth and jobs,
when NAFTA would suggest economic growth would then happen where
labor is cheaper, and taxes lower.
Which is not in the United States.
That is because the Republican party 1) Does not see "The United
States" as limited to the 48 Continental States, Alaska and Hawaii.
And 2) Bush also believes WAR is good for our economy, and that
WAR will take care of the continental US.
Resolve the two.
My children were a ransom for democracy, self-ownership, and personal
liberties, no matter how you look at it. Therefore, look at it.
This is the *LAST* thing CT DCF wants.
Exposure is the *last* thing criminals want.
The State tried to arrest me or commit me about 10 times, and placed
my kids with a known maniac and sicko, Donald G. Dickson.
Answering, "How *truthful*, are the things Kathleen Dickson exposes?"
Coercion. Abuse. Threats. Intimidation, Kidnapping. Fraud.
Spending down my resources of all kinds. Abusing a sick person.
etc.
Excellent.
'Destroy a person's excellent kids, because that person tells the
truth.
It happened in Iraq. It happened in Communist Russia. It happens
everywhere HATRED rules. There are enough people left in this planet
who believe in the premises of the Law of Nations, That being, we
survive as a community- That being, the nature of the HUMAN species,
since only the groups who defended the group, and who were intolerant
to harm, and only those who developed social rules or LAWS, survived.
DCF is capable of enormous destruction and harm. They won't survive
as they now exist, through this exposure.
If I were self-absorbed, I would not have started ActionLyme, nor
donated all this time and energy to the Lyme cause. If I were
self-absorbed, I would not have donated all this money. If I were
self-absorbed my name would be Jessica Gauvin or Nancy Martin and
I would spend my time in front of a mirror, instead of in front of
MEDLINE, or be a RESPONSIBLE parent, because, "Well, she goes to
the library"-- which was what we heard at the depositions, as the
reason Nancy Martin gave, that Kathleen Dickson was an "IRRESPONSIBLE"
parent. Proving, that Nancy Martin, is a total pinhead.
The same assessment goes for all the rest of my critics, among whom,
none has done more for the common good, and for the public, nor even
close. I had no choice. I asked for help for years, because I was
sick.
My kids have congenital Lyme. We don't know what the outcome will be.
Donald Dickson told the kids he "does not care about Lyme disease",
last summer, 2003. Dr. Donta had never heard from Don Dickson before
November or so, 2003. We were his patients since 1996.
Here is Robert Schoen (Yale), blowing me off while I was pregnant with
the third child, after the first two showed they had been exposed
to Lyme disease.
http://www.actionlyme.com/Schoen.htm
Lara had her own CDC bands. 7 of them, at age 25 months, and one
month
previous to that I had 5 CDC bands, and Lara's and mine are not the
same. Confirming: one would need annual booster shots of LYMErix,
because the antibodies fade. Diane showed signs of being exposed to
Ehrlichiosis, and
had active Epstein-Barr, which could be a sign of active Lyme--' Lyme
causing Chronic fatigue syndrome through the activation of latent
infections. The lymphocytes of Lyme-exposed individuals look like
activation, and
mutation by Epstein-Barr. --Paul Duray, 1992, Cold Spring Harbor
Press...
We don't know *WHAT'S* going on with that kid, and we can't find
out because Lyme is a political disease, and the Yale Pediatric
Neurologist, Susan Levy, (Guilford Office) would not give me an
appointment to do an independent neurological eval of her, to discover
WHAT could be going on. I made a mistake. I said the "L" word.
Lyme.
Yeahright. Kathleen Dickson is a bad parent. That would be
*ONLY* in CT, since the entire State is corrupt; Rowland, Ellef,
and Alibozek were in insurance; LYMErix is a fraud; Lyme as a
brain disease was discovered by Andrew Pachner, assessing Yale
Psych Klink patients ("Bicycle Boy" and "The Great New Imitator"
1989, Infectious disease Reviews Supplement article); the CT
DCF are a part of Rowlandgate, are a FRAUD of a Child Protecion
Agency, Perhaps the World's Best Experts on such abuse, because
of Hartford, as the Insurance Capital of Earth, and are aware
of the "tool" of INVALID Psych terms, flug to either NOT diagnose
a brain disease such as Lyme, or to diagnose a person as a bad
parent, in order to be eligible for the Federal Millions, which
went to the Tomassos, and my phone is tapped.
That's how bad I am. To criminals.
And thanks for letting me know what the State's platform will be.
Of course, it is, to borrow the Guv's term, "Baloney."
Kathleen
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jill ellen
Remember, it's timestamped etc. so it is just as good or better a way
of achieving your means. It would do this newsgroup good, and you
could still post the medical/activism stuff here.
Kathleen
You are all in for the same treatment
if you are not forewarned and in graphic
detail.
That's just one aspect of it. LEARN from
it, it is meant for your protection.
Remember this same exact thing happened to Judi.
Then there's always the aspect of Morons
with Opinions, and the DO-NOTHINGS-about-it-
themselves. In other words, put up or shut up.
This is what makes me the most furious.
LIVE with a sociopath, for a few years, a RAGING BULL.
Then you'll be entitled to an opinion. They
don't change, these sociopaths, and that's what
the Psychiatrist who diagnosed Don Dickson as
that TOLD me. Therefore the DCF placed the kids
with Don Dickson, because they are out of their
minds and not a child protection agency.
http://www.actionlyme.com/THE_REAL_DON_DICKSON.htm
Once you go there, and look at that data, you
will shut the hell up forever. My kids are
with a raging lunatic, who can't control himself
but espceially when no one is looking. THAT's
what DOCIOPATHS do.
My kids HATE him.
I keep running into total nutcases.
At least all the lawyers got to see for themselves
how STUPID my family is. "Kathleen is an irresponsible
parent because she goes to the library." DUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh Nancy Martin
Kathleen
Rowe Rickenbacker
> jill ellen wrote:
>
>> Okay, but you could you try putting your personal stuff on a blog?
>> Remember, it's timestamped etc. so it is just as good or better a
>> way of achieving your means. It would do this newsgroup good, and
>> you could still post the medical/activism stuff here.
>
> You are all in for the same treatment if you are not forewarned and
> in graphic detail.
>
> That's just one aspect of it. LEARN from it, it is meant for your
> protection.
>
> Remember this same exact thing happened to Judi.
>
> Then there's always the aspect of Morons with Opinions, and the
> DO-NOTHINGS-about-it- themselves. In other words, put up or shut up.
We're not telling you to shut up, we're telling you to talk in the
proper place. You can shout in the street, but don't shout in the
library - some people are here to concentrate.
I understand it all needs to be explained to us in graphic detail or
we'll all be raped and pillaged by the evil DCF and our evil
ex-husbands, but some of us don't have kids and plenty of us don't live
anywhere near America. You should use your energy in the most efficient
way, rather than shout words at people who wont respect them.
Rowe
who will never again reply to a Kathleen post in A.S.A, although he may
reply removing A.S.A if she replies without calling him a moron.
--
http://tom.staight.net
trisha gg
Kathleen, your ranting postings are very distressing to many, many people.
Please, please stop posting to A.S.A. We all have plenty to deal with as it
is.
If we find ourselves married to a sociopath, or suffering from Lyme disease,
we know where to find you.
Kathleen
I AM AUTISTIC YOU IDIOT.
MY PERFORMANCE IQ IS VERY SUPERIOR
AND AUDITORY / VERBAL IS WAY BELOW NORMAL.
That's why I can't get social security disablity
through the highest level of appeal. I should THINK
the problems autistic people have would interest an
autism-interest group.
If you don't believe me, check with my lawyer.
MY IQ IS TOO HIGH, DESPITE THE DOCUMENTED DELIRIUM
OF LYME DISEASE. I HAVE A PERVASIVE DEVELOPMENT DISORDER.
I HAD TO HAVE TONS OF SURGERY TO CORRECT GENETIC
ABNORMALITIES. I HAD A CONTRACTURED THUMB UNTIL
I WAS 14. NOW IT IS USELESS BECAUSE THEY WAITED
TOO LONG TO FIX IT....
AUTISM.
I COULD NOT HAVE ANY OF MY KIDS BECAUSE MY
HIPS ARE TOO SMALL. I HAVE A CONGENITAL
SCOLIOSIS, AND MY PELVIS LOOKS LIKE I WAS IN
A BAD ACCIDENT....
DUH!!!!
The State says I am insane to be saying
such things, but I obviously have the scars
from surgery.
Kathleen
a_we...@hotmail.com
> >Likewise a chronically ill Lyme patient who had already had three weeks doxy
> >and was not better, could read the nonsense about Lyme being cured in three
> >weeks and think -well it could not be Lyme then, my doctor must be right.
> >
> >And spend the rest of his life
> >suffering and disabled as a result.
> >
>
> Or worse as in dead after a few years.
I, for one, have NEVER EVER said that Lyme is ALWAYS easily cured in
three weeks, at least not for some people.
I have stated MANY TIMES that I fully believe that there is a
percentage of patients who experience chronic symptoms and
complications from infection with Lyme and that they are NOT cured by
three weeks of antibiotics.
Lisa has said that I have said otherwise. I have said show us the
post. She ignores such challenges because she is making it up as she
goes.
She has recently accused Robyn of saying the same thing. We all know
that Robyn doesn't believe that and has NEVER said it.
> Chuck and a_weisman don't give a shit
> about people or how many suffer with this disease.
Hey lady you do NOT know me and do NOT know what I think.
> I certainly hope they get
> their day with this because then they would see how dead wrong they are but
> guess what? It would be a little too late.
See it is YOU who don't give a shit about people. I would NEVER wish
Lyme disease on anyone. That's one of the differences between you and
me.
> You know what else? In my many
> years I have seen it happen many times....What goes around comes around. If
> Lyme doesn't happen to them then I am sure something else will that may be a
> lot worse than what we all have gone through. Fate sort of has a way of
> getting even with shitheads.
So YOU got Lyme. I guess that is fate's way of getting even with YOU.
> Just wait and see you smart ass's. Something
> down the road will come back on you and just remember the people you >harrassed.
I'll never forget the people here.
>> Your day is coming know-it-all's.
Good. I have room in my bank account for some powerball winnings.
Lisam01502
>three weeks, at least not for some people.
>
>I have stated MANY TIMES that I fully believe that there is a
>percentage of patients who experience chronic symptoms and
>complications from infection with Lyme and that they are NOT cured by
>three weeks of antibiotics.
>
>Lisa has said that I have said otherwise.
Well if you are McSweegan you have not only said that Lyme is easily cured in 3
weeks doxy, you have said it from the authority of your taxpayer-funded
position, as well as published it.
And if you're ChuckP Adams (you swear you're not, but you don't half sound like
him) , you have said it over and over and over on this list.
Now let's suppose you're neither of them. Well then, tell us, what do you think
is that percentage of patients that get chronic Lyme despite their three weeks
antibiotics, Wisey? Give us an estimate.
But you still haven't answered my last two questions, so I don't think you will
have the nerve to answer thhis one either. Instead you will just churn out more
boring fantasy about me being a lesbian and fat and all that other shit that
you spew in order to hide the fact that you have NO answer to what we say about
the Steere camp fraud.
>She has recently accused Robyn of saying the same thing.
Robyn? Who's Robyn?
Oh you mean Princess Diarrhea? I have never accused her of saying that Lyme is
easily cured in 3 weeks doxy. She says she has had Lyme for 23 years. But
despite living with Lyme for 23 years, she's all over a guy who says it's cured
in 3 weeks. That's a symptom of severe irreversible BRAIN DEATH..
>
>> Chuck and a_weisman don't give a shit
>> about people or how many suffer with this disease.
>
snip
>>> Your day is coming know-it-all's.
>
>Good. I have room in my bank account for some powerball winnings.
>
Make sure you got enough in there for some goddam bail, Wise Man.
Lisa
PrincessRobyn70
it. If you can sit here online and post rantings that go on and on for hours
and hours and you're so intelligent then you should be able to hold down a job
no?
A messed up thumb is not grounds for permanent disability.
Your hips being too big is also not grounds for permanent disability.
As for the autism it's obviously not that severe as you have stated you have
been able to accomplish all these wonderful acts for the Lyme Community using
your scientific knowledge.
If you can have corrective surgery then it's not a permanent disability.
So I don't see why your lawyer is telling you you're eligable for SSD unless
you've left some diagnosis out.
PrincessRobyn70
>despite living with Lyme for 23 years, she's all over a guy who says it's
>cured
>in 3 weeks.
Never said 23 yrs I said almost 15 and who is this guy?
jill ellen
> about people or how many suffer with this disease.
I still think aweisman and der ritterman are joel, not that I read
enough to be absolutely sure.
In which case, joel has chronic lyme and probably babesia.
I have no idea who chuck is (besides the putative newsgroup leader),
but i guess he's someone on disability with a lot of time on his
hands, who does not believe he has lyme.
Kathleen
go to my website and see if everything I
say is true or not. Such moronical comments
only come from the, uh, underinformed- that
being the nature of a moron.
http://www.actionlyme.com/index.htm
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Rowe Rickenbacker
> Actually, whoever isn't a moron would go to my website and see if
> everything I say is true or not. Such moronical comments only come
> from the, uh, underinformed- that being the nature of a moron.
So stop talking to morons and talk to the clever people on your site?
Rowe
--
http://tom.staight.net
a_we...@hotmail.com
> >I, for one, have NEVER EVER said that Lyme is ALWAYS easily cured in
> >three weeks, at least not for some people.
> >
> >I have stated MANY TIMES that I fully believe that there is a
> >percentage of patients who experience chronic symptoms and
> >complications from infection with Lyme and that they are NOT cured by
> >three weeks of antibiotics.
> >
> >Lisa has said that I have said otherwise.
>
> Well if you are McSweegan you have not only said that Lyme is easily cured in 3
> weeks doxy, you have said it from the authority of your taxpayer-funded
> position, as well as published it.
Well I've said about a billion times that I am NOT McSweegan you
stupid whore.
> And if you're ChuckP Adams (you swear you're not, but you don't half sound like
> him) , you have said it over and over and over on this list.
And I've said half a billion times that I'm NOT CPA either you stupid
bitch.
> Now let's suppose you're neither of them. Well then, tell us, what do you think
> is that percentage of patients that get chronic Lyme despite their three weeks
> antibiotics, Wisey? Give us an estimate.
I've stated my views previously in detail. You have never answered any
questions. I'm not going to repeat myself for the benefit of YOU nor
respond to your demands unless and until YOU start answering the
dozens of questions you've been challenged to respond to.
> But you still haven't answered my last two questions, so I don't think you will
> have the nerve to answer thhis one either.
I've answered the question before. More than once.
>Instead you will just churn out more
> boring fantasy about me being a lesbian and fat
I have NO fantasies about you unless you count the ones where you are
subjected to half the abuse and crap you've slung at others including
your FORMER children.
I have NO fantasies about fat lesbians.
>and all that other shit that
> you spew in order to hide the fact that you have NO answer to what we say about
> the Steere camp fraud.
I have an answer.
BULLSHIT.
> >She has recently accused Robyn of saying the same thing.
>
> Robyn? Who's Robyn?
>
> Oh you mean Princess Diarrhea? I have never accused her of saying that Lyme is
> easily cured in 3 weeks doxy.
LIAR yes you have. You've done it several times in the last few weeks.
>She says she has had Lyme for 23 years. But
> despite living with Lyme for 23 years, she's all over a guy who says it's cured
> in 3 weeks. That's a symptom of severe irreversible BRAIN DEATH..
You condemn her for disagreeing with you.
I praise her for not being another sheep and for rejecting your lies
bullshit threats and abuse.
> >> Chuck and a_weisman don't give a shit
> >> about people or how many suffer with this disease.
> >
>
> snip
> >>> Your day is coming know-it-all's.
> >
> >Good. I have room in my bank account for some powerball winnings.
> >
>
> Make sure you got enough in there for some goddam bail, Wise Man.
> Lisa
LOL Yeah sure. Yawn. I haven't done anything illegal. It is NOT a
crime to disagree with the rantings and ravings of you and kathloon.
You and kathloon are the ones going to jail.
Have fun.
trisha gg
I understand that you are autistic. However, you are not posting *about*
autism. You are posting about what happens when someone is autistic, has
Lyme disease, married and divorces a sociopath, loses custody of her
children...not many people fit this profile.
I think just you do.
I do not want you to think I do not care about these things. I do. I am very
sorry you are in such a horrible, horrifying postition, knowing your kids
are with a crazy man they do not like and all of that.
None of this has anything to do with autism, and does not need to be shared
in the autism support group.
You only post thses things that are of interest in your life. It isn't like
you are supporting anyone over there. (I mean, support being a two way
street...I don't think anyone over there is particularly interested in
supporting you, either).
Kathleen
He was here before and he hated me because I would not
give him the information I was sownr to secrecy over
during the GAO invetigation, which if anyone wants to
read about it, it is linked from the ActionLyme ActionLyme
History page. CDC says their standard is only 30% accurate.
Joel is a lawyer and he had a girlfriend who someone
called Jungle Jenny. I tried to convince her to leave Joel
because Joel made the joke about Why Marry her, when
the sex is free?
I told her Joel was a sociopath and one day he would
turn nasty on her. I wonder if that is what happened.
Is there any doubt weisman is a nasty SOB?
Then this isn't slander, especially if it is Joel
and there is no more Jungle Jenny.
Kathleen
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Chuck P Adams
>Date: 3/30/2004 3:54 AM Eastern Standard Time
> told her Joel was a sociopath and one day he would
>turn nasty on her.
Like the way you turned psycho on your family and friends?
>Then this isn't slander, especially if it is Joel
>and there is no more Jungle Jenny.
>
>
Almost time, the state is building you a new rubber room as we speak in the
state mental hospital.
jill ellen
> People are telling me weisman is Joel Shuckler (LYMECURE 2000).
>
> He was here before and he hated me because I would not
> give him the information I was sownr to secrecy over
> during the GAO invetigation, which if anyone wants to
> read about it, it is linked from the ActionLyme ActionLyme
> History page. CDC says their standard is only 30% accurate.
>
> Joel is a lawyer and he had a girlfriend who someone
> called Jungle Jenny. I tried to convince her to leave Joel
> because Joel made the joke about Why Marry her, when
> the sex is free?
>
> I told her Joel was a sociopath and one day he would
> turn nasty on her. I wonder if that is what happened.
> Is there any doubt weisman is a nasty SOB?
>
> Then this isn't slander, especially if it is Joel
> and there is no more Jungle Jenny.
>
> Kathleen
>
I think you're right, Kathleen. He writes in the style of Joel. He
thinks like Joel. When he hated people in the lyme community it was
more often directed at women than men, as are these posts. Like Joel,
he agrees lyme can be chronic, but he thinks most of the lyme
community is foolish and self-destructive. He had a thing about
fat--especially in women, which is consistent with these posts. Jenny
used to worry she was too fat for him, although he claimed she wasn't.
I don't know, the tone of the weisman posts are so bitter and full of
hatred that I can only think he's suffering a lot more than even a few
years ago.
On the other hand, Kathleen, you ought to make a blog and get all the
stuff of your private life off this list (and apparently an autism
list?) People will read your blog. If you want, you could just post
on the newsgroup: Blog updated today (if you update a few times a
week). That would be a neutral post. You can get free software to
track the # of hits your page gets, so you'll know if you're being
read. It really isn't fair to post all your private stuff, take up
all that airspace, and you well know that nobody else is in your
position and is unlikely to be. You are unique. :) Your postings here
should stick to the medical aspects of lyme (strictly medical) imho.
Think about it. Maybe Lisa will convince you.
jill ellen
> Actually, whoever isn't a moron would
> go to my website and see if everything I
> say is true or not. Such moronical comments
> only come from the, uh, underinformed- that
> being the nature of a moron.
>
> http://www.actionlyme.com/index.htm
>
But that's selfish of you, Kathleen. The few people who come on here
still, and are not old lymies or trolls, are looking for good
information about how to treat lyme. THey might be quite ill. Why
should you hijack their time so they spend hours poring over your
website with its odd mixture of personal and scientific?
Well, enough said. I gotta get back to work and reasonable
newsgroups. Good luck.
jill ellen
That's the most popular blogging site, though its mainly
20-somethings. Nonetheless, free, easy to post, and get comments from
others.
Kathleen
I already know that. The State will try to
declare me "incompetent." Friday. Good thing
I faxed all those records all over the planet
and I can't be sued for slander. Don Dickson
is known to be a maniac, and the records are
faxed all over the place, really upsetting the
woman on the Commission on Children in Hartford.
Meanwhile, Blumenthal and Milstein will be
up the DCF's butt, and the Office of Research
Integrity will investigate the Lyme fraud.
Especially McSweegan's and Fish's scheme to send
the Lyme Foundation a BOGUS ARTICLE.
I know you already know everything about my case,
but the lady at the State Department could not
believe what she was hearing that Kenneth Marcus
said. A few Congressman called me. All the
US Attorneys in the USA have this info about
the Lyme FRAUD.
My phone is tapped.
The funny thing is, this First Selectman
Dibble will be busted for the same thing
that Don Dickson should be busted over,
esposing himself chronically to the children
and being violent and so forth, but all of
that behavior is FINE with the DCF, when elsewhere
it is a crime.
Interesting. My children are with a KNOWN
maniac, and I cannot be sued for slander.
My Sister Nancy Martin and I prayed that something
would happen to Don Dickson right after David
was born so I could escape in early 1995. And
then he got invited to a wedding in Nevada.
We were praying for spontaneous combustion, since
that was the first thing that came to mind, given
jhis extreme rage and beating up things in the
house. He even took a chunk of flesh out of
his hand trying to beat the hell out of the
car that I was in-- to get away from him.
And then I have the kick hole in the door picture.
Don tried to kick the door down to get me.
I was in the Battered Women's shelter, he was
arrested, had a restraing order against him...
The State knows DCF placed my kids with a known
maniac. Now the whole world will too. Since you
can't get justice in DCF PsychoLand. Now it is
all over the newspapers. Milstein, Blumenthal
and now the Children's Commission will be up
their butts.
Thanks for letting us all know you know all about
my case again.
Important to the USDOJ FRAUD complaint and
Life in Corrupticut.
Kathleen
a_we...@hotmail.com
Hey you self proclaimed genius (actually total nitwit) having a high
IQ is NOT a basis for denying social security disability.
Having a large gap between performance IQ and verbal IQ is alone a
basis for getting disability (a gap of more than 15 points is
considered "significant" see organic brain disease social security
disability listing).
My conclusion is that you are a LIAR and or maybe or are so freaking
stupid that you mishandled your own case proving that you are no
genius.
Either way you're a fool or a liar or both.
Kathleen
I was denied SSD, and the Judge said so.
Now we can NOT BLIEVE a single lawyerly thing
you say since you have made it clear you do not
know what you are talking about.
K
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a_we...@hotmail.com
> a_we...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Did you know that it is a violation of Federal Law to FAX unsolicited
> > to people punishable by $500 per incident meaning each FAX?
>
> Why, then, is it legal to send unsolicited email?
>
> Rowe
That's a reasonable question. Maybe because it doesn't cost people
anything to receive junk mail but it uses up FAX paper and ink to
receive FAXes as well as ties up people's phone lines.
Or maybe the legislature just never wrote a law about junk mail.
I've wondered why spam is so bothersome and annoying but we've
adjusted to junk mail and just throw it away?
Chuck P Adams
>Date: 3/31/2004 4:24 AM Eastern
>YOU are an ass. That is the EXACT ONLY REASON
>I was denied SSD, and the Judge said so.
You don't have lyme. You Amazon beast
Lisam01502
>hatred that I can only think he's suffering a lot more than even a few
>years ago.
>
It's not him who's suffering, it's those who he turns his hatred and filthy
libels on.
As well as those newcomers who read his disinfo on Lyme.
He doesn't sound like a lawyer (although his pal DirtRitteman does). Rather
he's got the vibe of someone on Kathleen's list of Steere camp major league
crooks.
He also sounds remarkably like a guy who used to post as "Brainless Brian" here
some time ago..
you well know that nobody else is in your
>position and is unlikely to be.
There are other women in Kathleen's position. (ie had their children removed
over the Lyme issue). Here in the UK it's very common for mothers of children
with "chronic fatigue syndrome" to be accused fof Munchausen's by proxy and
have their children taken away.
> You are unique. :) Your postings here
>should stick to the medical aspects of lyme (strictly medical) imho.
>Think about it. Maybe Lisa will convince you.
I have tried!
I think your idea is a good one.But I also understand how desperate K. feels
with her kids in the hands of a violent man and no one offerong help.
Lisa
a_we...@hotmail.com
> kathleen...@snet.net (Kathleen) wrote in message news:<f46dbd96.04032...@posting.google.com>...
> > Actually, whoever isn't a moron would
> > go to my website and see if everything I
> > say is true or not. Such moronical comments
> > only come from the, uh, underinformed- that
> > being the nature of a moron.
> >
> > http://www.actionlyme.com/index.htm
> >
>
> But that's selfish of you, Kathleen.
Kathloon (her name is spelled with two "0"s rather than two "e"s) has
a world that revolves around HER.
She is the author of the conspiracy theory of EVERYTHING starring her.
Her entire world revolves around her delusional worldview.
Selfish is the way she perceives things.
> The few people who come on here
> still, and are not old lymies or trolls, are looking for good
> information about how to treat lyme. THey might be quite ill.
kathloon is quite mentally ill. She never had Lyme. Just a combination
of serious mental illnesses. All of which predate any Lyme. If you
look at her website and the personal documents she has scanned in it
is obvious that she never had Lyme and neither did her kids.
Lisa too. Never had Lyme. Her kids didn't either. They "miraculously"
were cured of their alleged "lyme" when given anti worm medication AND
when taken away from Lisa who was poisoning them.
Munchausen's by proxy and bad mothering is what they were suffering
from before they were RESCUED by social services in harrow england.
Kathloon's children were also being abused and neglected.
Unfortunately for them it will take years of intensive therapy to
recover from the effects of having been subjected to kathloon's
insanity and abuse for them to have any hope of recovery. But they are
physically fine, and now that they are with their dad, they are safe.
Don't believe kathloon's allegations about him. If they were true, DCF
would NEVER have given the kids to him. Even the stuff that kathloon
has posted only amounts to her accusations against him. There's no
proof and the documents show that.
> Why
> should you hijack their time so they spend hours poring over your
> website with its odd mixture of personal and scientific?
Odd mixture of personal and scientific? LOL Generous and diplomatic
characterization of the loon's mess of a website
>
> Well, enough said. I gotta get back to work and reasonable
> newsgroups. Good luck.
There's already been good luck for her kids. DCF RESCUED Them
Lisam01502
>of serious mental illnesses. All of which predate any Lyme. If you
>look at her website and the personal documents she has scanned in it
>is obvious that she never had Lyme and neither did her kids.
>
>Lisa too. Never had Lyme. Her kids didn't either. They "miraculously"
>were cured of their alleged "lyme" when given anti worm medication AND
>when taken away from Lisa who was poisoning them.
>
>Munchausen's by proxy and bad mothering is what they were suffering
>from
Yeah, sure.
**** you, you slandering pile of shit.
You know nothing about me or my family.
Read the goddam newspapers. Munchausens by proxy has been proven to be a fraud.
Just like the fraud committed by all you Steere camp criminals.For which you
will pay.
Lisa
a_we...@hotmail.com
> >kathloon is quite mentally ill. She never had Lyme. Just a combination
> >of serious mental illnesses. All of which predate any Lyme. If you
> >look at her website and the personal documents she has scanned in it
> >is obvious that she never had Lyme and neither did her kids.
> >
> >Lisa too. Never had Lyme. Her kids didn't either. They "miraculously"
> >were cured of their alleged "lyme" when given anti worm medication AND
> >when taken away from Lisa who was poisoning them.
> >
> >Munchausen's by proxy and bad mothering is what they were suffering
> >from
>
> Yeah, sure.
> **** you, you slandering pile of shit.
It ain't slander if it is true.
And it IS true that your kids were rescued by harrow Social Services.
It IS true that your kids got better when they were treated with anti
worm medication AND were taken away from you.
It IS true that you stand CONVICTED of abuse/neglect in the Courts in
England.
It IS true that rather than spending your time trying to get your
children back, you rant and rave like the idiot you are here.
It IS true that your children never tested positive for Lyme disease.
It IS true that LymeRAFT was NEVER a registered charity and that you
attempted to solicit money from Lyme patients for your own benefit and
that of kathloon using the name LymeRAFT which wasn't a registered
business either.
It IS true that you have NEVER responded to the MANY questions I
posted for you asking you to back up your ridiculous accusations.
It IS true that kathloon is probably the most insane person in the
entire history of insanity.
It IS true that you expressed admiration for censorship.
It IS true that kathloon showed up at her kids "safe house" with a bag
full of drugs.
It IS true that kathloon threatened to blow up the stonington schools
and attack them with WMD.
It IS true that kathloon engaged in a screaming yelling argument with
the female principal of her children's schools and the police had to
be called.
It IS true that kathloon has come close to being arrested many times
in recent months.
It IS true that kathloon has come close to being involuntarily
committed many times in recent months. And that CT is trying to do it
again on Friday (what HAs taken those incompetent nincompoops so
long?).
It IS true that kathloon's lawyer has withdrawn from her case. And
that isn't the first one to withdraw.
It IS true that you have issued threats and have abused and harassed
people on this board who even you admit are Lyme patients.
It IS true that there was NO RICO case filed in any court involving
Lyme disease.
It IS true that kathloon had NOTHING to do with Lymerix being
withdrawn from the market.
It IS true that kathloon has never actually accomplished ANYTHING as a
"Lyme activist." Or as a "human rights activist." Or as a "crime
fighter."
It IS true that no one posting here is Ed McSweegan and your entire
ridiculous elaborate conspiracy theory of everything starring you and
kathloon battling egvil is complete delusional self aggrandizing
hogwash.
It IS true that YOU are a sociopath, a psychopath, a nasty, hostile,
foul mouthed individual with borderline personality disorder, active
psychosis and munchausen's by proxy.
It IS true that you and kathloon have selfishly invaded this newsgroup
and hijacked it to promote your own twisted agendas and made it
impossible for people to use the site for help and information.
It IS true that you post using multiple aliases including the obvious
one DeSwinerizer and then BLATANTLY LIE about it.
It IS true that you are a LIAR.
It IS true that you claim that you were set up and framed due to your
"Lyme actiuvism" when NO ONE EVER heard of you before your kids were
even taken away and you engaged in NO Lyme activism.
It IS true that kathloon has made completely inconsistent statements
about being framed for her "lYme activism" when originally she claimed
it was her sister and family who "set her up." She has claimed that
the DCF action was retailiation for reporting people at DCF to the
State bar when that came AFTER the DCF thing started.
It IS true that kathloon listed Pfizer as having an association with
her website when she hasn't worked for them for YEARS.
It IS true that kathloon has further misused Pfizer's name
misrepresenting herself as one of their employees when that hasn't
been true for years.
It IS true that you are a despicable sub human piece of garbage.
and that is the tip of the truth iceburg.
> You know nothing about me or my family.
Since you have seen fit to post most of the details of your life, and
kathloon has posted ALL the pathetic details of hers, we know quite a
bit.
Then you guys claim that the fact that people know the details of your
pathetic lives is "proof" that we have inside access to details of
your cases "proving" that we are the all powerful mcsweegan who is the
puppet master behind the grand conspiracy theory of everything
starring you two.
I'm surprised lisa. Usually you use the DeSwinerizer alias to comment
on your case.
>
> Read the goddam newspapers. Munchausens by proxy has been proven to be a fraud.
WRONG. The fact that certain accusations have been made against one of
the proponents of the syndrome doesn't discredit the theory or
existence of Munchausen's. It is STILL a recongized syndrome.
Sam Waksal was head of ImClone and went to jail for insider trading.
But the cancer drug erbitux was later approved by the FDA as safe and
efficacious. Proving that one doesn't always throw the baby out with
the bathwater.
Unless one is a monster mom like you and kathloon.
> Just like the fraud committed by all you Steere camp criminals.For which you
> will pay.
> Lisa
LOL I'm not the one being involuntarily committed.
FINALLY!
jill ellen
> libels on.
Not really. Anybody whose life has space for such irate postings is
suffering.
>
> As well as those newcomers who read his disinfo on Lyme.
>
> He doesn't sound like a lawyer (although his pal DirtRitteman does). Rather
> he's got the vibe of someone on Kathleen's list of Steere camp major league
> crooks.
>
> He also sounds remarkably like a guy who used to post as "Brainless Brian" here
> some time ago..
Well Brainless Brian *was* Joel, and anyway, you can recognize Joel's
posts by their signature length.
>
>> I have tried!
> I think your idea is a good one.But I also understand how desperate K. feels
> with her kids in the hands of a violent man and no one offerong help.
> Lisa
Well convince her that a timestamped blog is much better--and the way
anyone is going who wants to defend themselves or out others. Bloggers
helped bring down Raines, the former editor of the NY TImes.
Newsgroups didn't. Blogs are focussed and easily readable.
Ron
>
> http://www.actionlyme.com/Schoen.htm
>
> And who the HELL are you?
I'm Ron. I have been here a while, you may have heard of me.
> Where's your
> website and science?
I don't really need any. Your posts are more than enough evidence of your
psychological condition. Get kelp katie, but to answer your question:
"Inappropriate, fierce anger or problems controlling your anger. You may
often display temper tantrums or get into physical fights. Temporary
episodes when you feel suspicious of others without reason (paranoia) or
feel a loss of a sense of reality (psychosis)"
> What a flaming self-absorbed useless asshole.
Yes, you are. But that also does not matter to me. Only that you come to
realize your condition and seek treatment.
> Typical male.
Not quite, more like an "Exceptional Male". But this is nothing you would
know anything about.
> You almost NEVER hear of the FATHER's doing activism.
YOU may never hear of it, but I hear a lot of it. Being an "Activist
Father" kinda helps I suppose. I guess we do kind of stick together
sometimes, but then again we are also the first to get blamed when something
goes wrong.
Something else you might look over, see how much of it fits you:
"Delusions (false beliefs)
Hallucinations (perceiving the presence of something not really there)
Disorganized speech
Irrational or catatonic behavior, such as stupor, rigidity, or floppiness of
limbs.
Negative symptoms, such as inaction, silence, or loss of will"
"What Are the Symptoms of Schizophrenia?
A diagnosis of schizophrenia is considered when a person experiences at
least two of the following symptoms for at least one month (or less if the
person has been treated before): "
Get help katie, before the world closes in on your head and you cant
breathe.
Ron
> Kathleen
>
> "Ron" <apositi...@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:<C7O8c.8928$pd1.1968@okepread04>...
> > "Kathleen" <kathleen...@snet.net> wrote in message
> > news:f46dbd96.0403...@posting.google.com...
> > > jill...@yahoo.com (jill ellen) wrote in message
> > news:<32779e16.0403...@posting.google.com>...
> > > > turn your anger on him, not on Kathleen Dickson.
> > > > > Lisa
> > > >
> > > > I'm well aware of how smart she is but that doesn't help. It's
> > > > monomaniacal and completely self-absorbed to put all her personal
> > > > frothings on a newsgroup for lyme. If she has some idea she needs to
> > > > protect herself by public airings of all things, then she can do
that
> > > > on her webpage or just make her own blog and upload every few
minutes
> > > > if she wants. There is no reason to hijack a newsgroup. But what
do
> > > > I care, it's not my newsgroup and I am not here very often, I just
> > > > feel bad for people who don't know how to search out a good
newsgroup
> > > > and end up here.
> > >
> > >
> > > My kids have Lyme you asshole.
> > >
> > > The State says I am insane to
> > > do activism, and INSANE to be
> > > saying Lyme is RICO and filing
> > > a RICO complaint, when what they
> > > Hell have YOU done for activism?
> >
> > The state is right katie, you are a bit beyond nuts.
> >
> > > Or ANYONE ELSE?
> >
> > More than you dearie. Far more. But I only get called names for it in
the
> > news groups, then again I'm not a nutcase and you are.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > > WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HELP the situation
> > > and not just about kids who have Lyme
> > > but everyone else?
> > >
> > > FIRST the State said I was a bad
> > > [arent for not institutiong the kids
> > > 504 plan, for congenital Lyme,
> > > which was NOT TRUE. *THEN* they
> > > said I don't have Lyme.
> > >
> > > The DCF are TOTAL MORONS.
> > >
> > > Morons With Opinions.
> > >
> > > Kathleen