"Chuck" claims CNN program will bring down all LLMDs
Lisam01502
that will portray all LLMDs as frauds, and that "the top " Lyme-literate doc
will end up in jail. Here is the conversation, with some of the repetition cut
out.
Lisa
Chuck P Adams: FRAUD AND SCANDAL AND LLMD'S. IT WILL BE ON CNN SOON !
Lisam01502: really?
Chuck P Adams: You will get to see me. I was interviewed
Lisam01502: u r the fraudster?
Chuck P Adams: I was one of the victims
Lisam01502: what pseudonym did u use?
Chuck P Adams: 25k lost
Lisam01502: What pseuodynym did u use?
Chuck P Adams: u will see soon my dear
Lisam01502: i cant get cnn here
Chuck P Adams: Chuck Adams takes down the head of the group
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Chuck P Adams: Can u believe a LLMD would have a 2 million dollar home ?
Chuck P Adams: u will see. and 4 cars
Lisam01502: how much does ur home costs
Lisam01502: the one is old lyme for example
Chuck P Adams: CASH ONLY BABY. thats how he runs his place
Lisam01502: how many people r "testifying" on this prog?
Chuck P Adams: Funny how your false RICO case went no place but the fraud of
LLMD's just hit center stage
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Chuck P Adams: there are dozens of people like me who are on the program
Chuck P Adams: one lady lost over 100k
Lisam01502: so how the f would i know which one is u
Chuck P Adams: i am interviewed
Lisam01502: how many people r interviewed?
Chuck P Adams: when i was at the CNN office in NYC there was a few people
there. That was just in this area
Lisam01502: when is this prog on?
Chuck P Adams: The producer said its well over a dozen
Lisam01502: when is it on?
Chuck P Adams: I will tell u dear
Lisam01502: well tell me now
Lisam01502: unless u dreamed the whole thing up maybe?
Chuck P Adams: I don't have the date. it has to be finished
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Lisam01502: which llmd r u accusing?
Chuck P Adams: I was taken for thousands
Lisam01502: how?
Chuck P Adams: the chronic lyme fraud and the IV companies who are pushing it
Chuck P Adams: LLMD's are the middle men
Lisam01502: so what do those people all have, ed?
Lisam01502: Munchausens?
Chuck P Adams: it will be out soon. The whole LLMD industry will fold
Lisam01502: oh dont be too sure babe
Lisam01502: the REAL fraud might fold first
Chuck P Adams: "Cash only" medical treatment will be gone
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Chuck P Adams: The top LLMD is losing his lic and jail time .
Lisam01502: who is the top llmd?
Chuck P Adams: u will see
Lisam01502: who is the journo who made the prog?
Chuck P Adams: CNN..there is many.
Lisam01502: for example
Lisam01502: name one
Chuck P Adams: I can't say until they release the story
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Chuck P Adams: This has been in the works for 2 years
Lisam01502: well? are u?
Chuck P Adams: Even sex with patients ...thats the good part
Lisam01502: chuck u r off ur hjead
Lisam01502: this lie will backfire on u so bad it will blow u into the next
dimension
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Chuck P Adams: the guy who lost his lic?
Chuck P Adams: in NY?
Lisam01502: no
Chuck P Adams: lol
Chuck P Adams: LMAO
Chuck P Adams: LOL
Chuck P Adams: Just like the LDF?
Chuck P Adams: LOST
Chuck P Adams: LOL
Chuck P Adams: LMAO
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Chuck P Adams
Anything else you want to make up?
Lisam01502
>LMAO...You are a Nut Lisa.
>
>Anything else you want to make up?
>
Oh, so now you want to deny the conversation took place? I always said you were
a coward.
It's LOGGED, dumbass.
Now you listen up, Ed.
You want to bring down all LLMDs with a smear campaign and phony allegations of
fraud on CNN? Go right ahead.
What was that question you asked the other day about mrufer? Who is more
guilty, the one who commits murder, or the one who could have prevented it, but
did nothing?
I don't know. Why don't you tell us, dear? And by the way..
... tell your friend to be more careful next time he organizes goddam holidays
in Puerto Rico.
Lisa
derdrittemann
> LMAO...You are a Nut Lisa.
>
> Anything else you want to make up?
Watch out, Chuck...your computer is going to get one of those worm
virus things from talking to Lisabian like that...
...she is famous for giving people a good case of worms.
Chuck P Adams
>Date: 2/28/2004 10:17 PM Eastern
>Watch out, Chuck...your computer is going to get one of those worm
>virus things from talking to Lisabian like that...
>
>...she is famous for giving people a good case of worms.
>
I should sue her for slander for making up false chat records and putting them
on the usenet.
I have Lisabian blocked from IM's ever since she issued threats and vulgar
language against me a few months back. She is trying to gain support from
lymies who attacked them. She has no support now except Nancy who I would put
in the same boat as them...loon's.
Lisam01502
>I should sue her for slander for making up false chat records and putting
>them
>on the usenet.
Please do! Go right ahead and sue me, under you fals ename, and I hope the
court subpoenas the log of that conversation as soon as possible.
You are such a screwball.
Chuck P Adams
>Date: 2/29/2004 5:42 AM Eastern
>Please do! Go right ahead and sue me, under you fals ename, and I hope the
>court subpoenas the log of that conversation as soon as possible.
>
>You are such a screwball.
You are a screwball. You have to make up fake chat messages to gain support.
Seek Help Lisabian
Lisam01502
That conversation is totally genuine, Chuck P McSweegan, and you know it.
Just like the remark you once accidentally let slip about your wife having the
house in Bethesda, MD (hq of the NIH), which you also denied having made, not
knowing that your lawyer-friend, who is smarter than you (though equally evil)
was on the internet trying to explain it away, saying that lots of people have
houses in Bethesda etc..
Then you did another about-turn and said that you took info off McSweegan's
website and used it to trick me into thinking you were him.
Naaaah, I don't think so. Why on earth would anyone want anyone else to think
they were Ed McSweegan? Jeeeez.
Lisam01502
Oh and by the way, now that you are desperately denying that you ever had this
conversation, i take it that means there will be no CNN program shown after
all?
No stupid false allegations of fraud against LLMDs, no crap about sports cars
and all the rest of it, no paid stooges standing up swearing they ere
misdiagnosed by LLMDs and only got their life sorted out when they happened to
browse he ALDF website huh?
Everybody knows that the LLMDs are the only honest and knowledgeable Lyme docs
around. That's why they're called LLMDs, while you guys are called every name
under the sun.
No CNN program, huh? Good. Another fraud from the House of Fraud.
Lisa
Kathleen
'Can't wait for the show. I mean, think about
it. There are actually patients well enough to
havs sex with an LLMD. Perhaps we could consider that
a barometer for improvement. (kidding)
2 million dollar homes in Ridgefield is no big
deal by the way, and neither are 4 cars, but still
it should be excellent.
None of *MY* people can get into an LLMD, except
for one. It's like 700 to walk in the door. Cash.
I don't know about the rest of the allegations, but
ILADS certainly screwed themselves for a number of reasons.
Not the least of which was not taking this Lyme scam to the kourts.
<Kathleen now *very* *VERY* ***VERY*** sad.>
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lisam...@aol.com (Lisam01502) wrote in message news:<20040228163002...@mb-m02.aol.com>...
Chuck P Adams
>Date: 2/29/2004 1:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
>None of *MY* people can get into an LLMD, except
>for one. It's like 700 to walk in the door. Cash.
Yea...God Bless the money making LLMD's
$700..my God thats nothing. I could have purchased a new SUV with the amount of
money one LLMD charged me.
Kathleen
Not all of them are like that and I strongly
agree that they charge too much. However that's
probably to build up their legal defense fund
for later, when they get slammed by Insurance
Companies and Yale.
I stand neutral on the accusation, because a lot
of my people have nowhere to go. There are *NO*
LLMDs in southeastern CT. I send people to New York,
Boston, Madison and Ridgefield. That's it. *Most*
times it's a two hour drive in ONE direction or another.
That's if they can get any care at all. Lyme is
a chronic infection, and that's that. The ALDF
members reported this. Russell Johnson. He said
you have to treat chronic infection chronically.
And that's factual and all that anyone can do.
We Lyme patients who know the whole story are not
going to be persuaded one way or the other from
this story to come on CNN.
I only know Lou Dobbs is no phoney. Two nights
ago he had Steve Forbes and some other guys on who
had business magazines and they were all against him,
and Lou was like, WON'T ANY OF YOU GUYS ADDRESS THE REALITIES?
Alan Greenspan and Fannie Mae? Social Security?
America bleeding a river? The Trade deficit?
America is Bankrupt is what he was saying, and Forbes?
I don't know, He is not as smart as Dobbs, I think.
I felt sorry for him. Lou needed these guys to be
real. To care, like he does. Lou was his charming
and witty self, nonetheless.
I love that guy. We need more people like him.
Polite, charming, smart as it gets, honest,
perfect integrity, self-depreciating humor,
cares about the American people...
We got a rare few decent people left in this country.
The ILADS LLMDs? They should not have Pat or Nick
on the board. That's for starters. For the money
and time they put into their guidelines, they should
have built a database. Then the science does the talking
FOR them, and they will not be shown to be at odds with
what the bad guys USED to say, and their position,
unassailable.
Oh, well. That's what happens when you have burpfarts
and blowhards making decisions.
Kathleen