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hpm...@my-deja.com

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Aug 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/19/00
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I just wanted you to know that calling me a "Nazi Whore" puts you in the
same shoes as A.H..That's the way he thought of my family and proved it by
putting them in CONCENTRATION CAMPS.Does it make you feel extra important now
to know thatMiserable Pig Bastards like you are responsible for the deaths of
my mothers whole family and the torture of my mother and father in the
infamous CAMPS!!!!AND YOU HAVE THE UTTER NERVE AND GALL TO CALL ME A NAZI
WHORE. There isn't anything I could think of that could come close to hurting
your family as you have hurt mine through me. I only thank GOD that my mother
is not here to see what you have written about her daughter. As it is those
two words will stick with me for a very long time. You will never have to
worry about me addressing you in any way or form. And for those of you who
say this should have been written privately,I say not in this instance. I
wanted you to see what type of person[???] this really is. HELEN


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Kathleen

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Helen-

You have every right to be this
furious. I'm furious for you.

Frank, you have GOT to cut it out.

This is really bad stuff.

You've crossed the line. You
are talking HATE and MURDER.

We shall have to censor you
until you apologize for bringing
HATE to this group.

I ask everyone to not post/reply to Frank
until he apologizes to Helen and
everyone here.

Kathleen

Frank de Groot

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Aug 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/20/00
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I have not called you a nazi whore. I said that I will NOT call
you a nazi whore, but you sure behave like one (siding for the
enemy, the enemy that kills innocent people)

Starting a thread like that, with my name and a curse in it is
absolutely forbidden and any provider will immediately stop the
service when an abuse message is sent. There are lines you should
not cross.
But... then again, it proves what kind of person you really are.
The evidence against you is mounting. I don't care. You can start
666 threads with my name in it if you like.

It is a bit peculiar that you say that people like me are
responsible for putting your family in concentration camps. I
think that qualifies you for a lawsuit. I want to warn you, a
2-way ticket Amsterdam-New York costs 300$ here. I can easily
find the time for a little holiday to start a lawsuit against
you. You are seriously violating US law by accusing someone of
being responsible for the holocaust. This is your last warning.

Frank de Groot


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Frank de Groot

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Aug 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/20/00
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You are backing a troll who puts my name in an off-topic
HATE-tread and
calls me personally responsible for the torture & death of her
family?
Time to get on some stronger antibiotics, Kathleen!

Franciscus

(<cut> 'I will NOT call you a Nazi whore' <cut>) (After Helen
called me an imbecilic moron for exposing a Steerian quack, and
now personally responsible for the holocaust (what drugs are you
on Helen?))


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Kathleen

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Aug 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/20/00
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So, you're saying you didn't call
her a Nazi Whore or such implied term?

The Bogus Prophet

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Aug 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/20/00
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WHAT IS WRONG WITH EVERYBODY? DO people really think they're
somehow helping people with Lyme by calling each other names
and engaging in meaningless threats? Mr. de Groot has behaved
very badly recently, in my opinion, and he does his position no
favors by what he writes below. And just a reality test for
Mr. de Groot:

If you really think you have a credible threat against *anyone*,
either because they have said something "forbidden" *snicker*
or that you can make a case for libel, I suggest that you wake
up out of your dream world. I have had much worse said about
me that was truly libelous and have had to respond in kind as
well. The bottom line is that most ISPs don't care and the
nature of internet law right now is such that taking such incidents
to court is an exercise in futility. If you're willing to spend
thousands and thousands of dollars to persue a case that will most
likely get thrown out of court, go right ahead, it's your time,
money, and grief.

As for everyone else, I suggest that ignoring Mr. de Groot until
he comes to his senses, that is, behaves in a civil manner, is in
order. We have more important things to do than engage in stupid,
meaningless threats against each other.

Frank de Groot <franciscu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I have not called you a nazi whore. I said that I will NOT call
>you a nazi whore, but you sure behave like one (siding for the
>enemy, the enemy that kills innocent people)
>
>Starting a thread like that, with my name and a curse in it is
>absolutely forbidden and any provider will immediately stop the
>service when an abuse message is sent. There are lines you should
>not cross.
>But... then again, it proves what kind of person you really are.
>The evidence against you is mounting. I don't care. You can start
>666 threads with my name in it if you like.
>
>It is a bit peculiar that you say that people like me are
>responsible for putting your family in concentration camps. I
>think that qualifies you for a lawsuit. I want to warn you, a
>2-way ticket Amsterdam-New York costs 300$ here. I can easily
>find the time for a little holiday to start a lawsuit against
>you. You are seriously violating US law by accusing someone of
>being responsible for the holocaust. This is your last warning.
>
>Frank de Groot
>
>
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PrincessVixen29

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Aug 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/20/00
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I agree, people are sick we don't want to listen to your pathetic whining

Frank90222

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Aug 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/20/00
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>was: Re: Frank de Groot:You Miserable Pig Bastard
>From: "Frank de Groot" franciscu...@hotmail.com

>You are backing a troll

No...we are looking at one!

Ruth

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Aug 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/20/00
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I will not censor anyone.

Frank de Groot

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Aug 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/21/00
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Some arrogant, agressive, Steere-backing egomaniacs who like to
censor anybody with a different opinion have accused me of making
off-topic posts and suggested I write some more about Lyme.
I am only too glad to oblige:

My Czech friend read on a website that Lyme is the second
infectious disease in Germany, with 100,000 new cases each year
on a population of 80 million. That means a German has a chance
of 1 in 10 of contracting it during his lifetime. I guess the
American figure is roughly the same.

Maybe we should make the general public aware of the fact that
their chances of getting Lyme are just about the same as loosing
a game of Russian Roulette.

My friend mentioned an interesting detail about why the tick
starts to be infectious after a certain amount of hours: The tick
actualy releases body liquids into the bloodstream to make some
more room for the to-be-sucked blood.

If it would be possible to spray an area with a substance that
would prevent ticks from doing that, or causes a disturbance in
their digestive system/reflexes or whatever mechanism exactly
responsible, they would be unable to do that. Maybe a cream could
do the trick. No insect repellent will ever work 100%, but such a
substance might work better. Is there any research on this
subject?


Franciscus.


Chicci

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Aug 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/21/00
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>
> My Czech friend read on a website that Lyme is the second
> infectious disease in Germany, with 100,000 new cases each year
> on a population of 80 million. That means a German has a chance
> of 1 in 10 of contracting it during his lifetime. I guess the
> American figure is roughly the same.


Well if this is true and this american girl is sitting over here in
Germany already with lyme then i had better for sure be careful..All i
need is to have some sort of other strain going on. Especially over
here with the military lets play doctors.

Chicci

LJl979

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Aug 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/23/00
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>So, you're saying you didn't call
>her a Nazi Whore or such implied term?
>
>
>

Wasn't the whole point to IGNORE "Frank de ignorant" until he apologized?
Acknowledging him in any way simply validates his ridiculous posts. When you
allow him to anger you, that only gives him power that he doesn't deserve.
Consider the source and ignore him. In the meantime, sorry Helen.

sarah...@my-deja.com

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Aug 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/23/00
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Dear Helen,

I wanted to tell you that I am sorry Frank de Groot hurt your
feelings- more than that, I know. I thought it was a horrible thing
for him to write as well. I believe you deserve an apology but I don't
htink you will get it.

My husband's father came over from Austria when he was 4 years old.
He, his little sister, father & mother fled Vienna. They were of a
very wealthy family. Everyone else stayed- and died. My daughter's
grandfather lost *his* grandparents- and his aunts & uncles- his
cousins- all except his immediate family. They bargained their way out
of Italy and arrived in the U.S. absolutely penniless. They barely
made it. They had to pretend to be Italians when they shipped out.

My father-in-law was four- and waiting for the ship to leave they
had to spend almost a month in a hotel room in Italy. His mother and
sister and he did not speak Italian. His father did and they all had
to pretend they were Italian. Italy was not friendly to fleeing Jews.
So he and his sister and mother were inside a hotel room for weeks.

My father-in-law remembers this vividly- as a matter of fact it is
his very first memory. Shortly before they left, his father let him
out of the hotel room for an afternoon. He had to promise not to say a
single word. He was 4. He & his father walked to a plaza and his
father bought him a pretty pinwheel. He remembers feeling so free &
happy after feeling bored & stifled for weeks. There was a crowd of
pigeons in the plaza- and something startled them- and in one great
mass they rose into the air. My father-in-law at 4 yelled, "Look Papa!
Look, Papa! The pigeons! The pigeons!" Not in Italian.

He says it was like the world stopped.

His father struck him in the face. He had never been hit before,
but his father struck him. Then his father picked him up and began to
run. He says the whole way back to the hotel tears were streaming down
his father's face and he knew he had done something really bad. His
father ran back the whole way, crying. He had never been hit, had
never seen his father cry. It is his first memory of his life. He
says he can still feel, after 65 years, his father's fear; he knew if
his father was afraid, then the whole world was unsafe. He never has
felt safe again.

Another tangent. I get sidetracked. But maybe that is the whole
point. That is what Nazis were. They were death and very serious.
Not a barb to fling, not a superficiality. Not to be minimized.

Best WIshes*)

-
Sarah*)

Phyllis C. Mervine

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Aug 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/23/00
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oh Sarah, I am crying for that poor little boy
pcm.vcf

Frank de Groot

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Aug 23, 2000, 6:27:52 PM8/23/00
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The most blissful state of a human being is to be impervious to
anything coming from outside affecting your mood. We can do a
test now:

<start of test>

I say for example: 'apologized' comes from the Greek 'apo'
meaning 'after' or 'behind', and 'logia', meaning 'talking'. So
you want me to apologize, i.e. to do something 'after talking'.
Well, after talking, I usually fuck the shit out of somebody,
like you have already been able to infer from my previous posts.
So, assuming you know your classical languages, you, anonymous
LJI979 entity, (I haven't got the foggiest clue which sex you are
by the way, for all I know it could be hermafrodite or you could
be a 6-foot tall hairy guy with multiple-Y syndrome), you are
solliciting for a good bugger up the ass! Am I right?!

<end of test>

Now did that make you angry, frustrated or sad?
If it did not stirr any emotion in you, you are making good
progress.
I am looking forward to you'all's progresses, Keep on trying,
Remember, 50% of people have an IQ below average so you don't
have to feel lonely!

In case you wondered how I knew the stuff about the Greek 'apo
logia', well, I hate people who have studied Greek. Because they
are stupid. They have spent a lot of effort learning a dead
language. As you undoubdedly know by now, I am extremely
intelligent. I estimate that my intellect roughly compares to
your intellect as your intellect compares to the intellect of a
person with Down's syndrome. I couldn't prevent NOT learning
Greek, just by being in Greece for a while. Jezus Christ, I'm a
motherfucking genius. God will be proud of me, he did a good job.
He/She/It only forgot to include resistency against Borrelia,
but, what the heck, we all make mistakes, even God.

Actually, come to think of it, a mistake is relative. When God
has created this universe according to certain quantummechanical
principles, as an experiment or to serve a certain purpose, then
you can't call anything in it a mistake, even when it's flawed.
When you do a double-blind study involving a placebo, you can
also argue that strictly speaking, it's bad mediacl practice not
to treat the disease. But on the higher level, it has sense. On
yet an even higher level, the experiment might seem flawed or
immoral/unethical. When you go to the lowest level of
abstrahation, the quantum-mechanical paradigm is flawless. The
problem is that we look at things from our own perspective too
much.

We are more interested in the predicaments of our loved ones,
than in the predicaments of our distant enemies. But, like
Jeshua, (the rebellious carpenter with lots of asshole-brothers)
understood, that's very wrong and will ultimately lead to utter
demise. Whenever you feel offended, remember that you are just a
buch of electrons. You are unable to understand anything about
one single electron inside your body. You haven't got a clue what
a foton is (me neither), no idea where you came from (in the
broadest sense of the word), where you're going to or why you are
here (in a metaphysical sense). Before you start getting offended
because some electrons hit your Cathode Ray Tube in a pattern
that is not to your liking, I advise you to think first some more
about the nature of those very electrons that you don't like.
Don't forget I am made of electrons too. So your electrons are
taking offense at my electrons. And all electrons are the same.
And they weigh nothing when they are in the probability field
surrounding a nucleus.

You don't exist.
You are a figment of your own imagination.
That's inverse solipsism, isn't it?

I have a question for you.
Assume an almost infinite number of monkeys would each have a
typewriter and would type for an almost infinite time randomly.
Let's say somebody would do the grunt work for you and discard
all pages that wouldn't make sense, an highlighted the passages
that would make some sense, more or less. Now, roughly estimated,
how many % of those passages would make you angry, and how many %
would make you glad, and how many % would not produce a
discernible effect?

Can you answer that question?
When you give it a serious try, I will apologize.

Franciscus


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guava

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Aug 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/29/00
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Sorry I am behind in my reading of posts, and YES, I will not respond to
Frank anymore!! Enough with his insults and HATE!
Hlen, we were here before, when Frank insulted Arabs.. and you were right
to come to my defense. I will not tolerate this kind of hate speech and I
will no longer respond to Frank.. NO MATTER what eh might offer. There are
kinder, braver, and more intelligent people on this newsgroup, than Frank.
Hey.. HOW DOES FRANK know "so " much????
Maybe I am learning to smell a RAT!
How DARE you Frank...!!!!
Helen.. I love ya...
Frank : go to hell
And to all others.. sorry I even bothered to "thank/ frank".. I take it
back!
Regretfully,
Rima

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guava

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Take some more acid and read some more popular quantam mechanics..Frank!
You may be "smart" or " Intelligent" , but you are clearly uneducated...for
you lack compassion and that is what makes your intelligence useless. ..
period!
Rima

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guava

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Get Real!
lol... not in a million years!
Do you really think you know America and it's justice system so well.? Hop
on over then Frank....You have overexposed yourself."so" well" lol.
Rima

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> I have not called you a nazi whore. I said that I will NOT call
> you a nazi whore, but you sure behave like one (siding for the
> enemy, the enemy that kills innocent people)
>
> Starting a thread like that, with my name and a curse in it is
> absolutely forbidden and any provider will immediately stop the
> service when an abuse message is sent. There are lines you should
> not cross.
> But... then again, it proves what kind of person you really are.
> The evidence against you is mounting. I don't care. You can start
> 666 threads with my name in it if you like.
>
> It is a bit peculiar that you say that people like me are
> responsible for putting your family in concentration camps. I
> think that qualifies you for a lawsuit. I want to warn you, a
> 2-way ticket Amsterdam-New York costs 300$ here. I can easily
> find the time for a little holiday to start a lawsuit against
> you. You are seriously violating US law by accusing someone of
> being responsible for the holocaust. This is your last warning.
>
> Frank de Groot
>
>
> <hpm...@my-deja.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
> 8nn4s2$s6n$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

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