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Lipanj

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Nov 28, 2009, 12:51:23 AM11/28/09
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> > ILADS.org is nobody's friend and nobody's
> > leader... except their own.
If ILADS is the International lyme and assosiated diseases society
then----------------------------
You are absolutely correct K -----Several yrs ago I went to Andrea
Gaito --cked me out ----got a diagnosis slip of lyme disease and
vasculitis and as I left she said you probably would feel better on
IV, altho when I first came in she said we don't use IV much anymore
and a lot are getting their meds from Canada.
So my blood test came back negative - I think it was MDL and also that
stupid peptide lyme test that came out then supposed to be the cat's
meow......Oh as I left she did give me 14 days of Spectracef -----that
was it....didn't hear a thing from her --a big coward --chicken - yet
they preach about it is a clinical diagnosis............I recently had
from Igenex positive --------plus positive 31kda epitope test.
So that was it from Gaito the wonder woman never called and got the
whammy --I even had past diagnosis slips and photos of exterior
symptoms - I was at Gaito's office in 2004 - my poor husband took
me.......

I did have ACA in past also -(ACA in inflamatory stage also mimincs
peripheral vascular disease) in remission now but now again atrophie
blanche -----and I am also sick sick of hearing some of these skin
item are ONLY IN EUROPE----when I was in waiting room of hers before I
went in her receiptionist bragged "Oh she is so wonderful and people
come from France to her."
I am sick sick of all these rotten as you say murderers -
criminals. MY POOR HUSBAND DIED AND SUFFERED PITIFULLY AND
UNBELIEVABLE DUE TO SECONDARY VASCULAR FEET ITEMS - TAKEN AS A ONE WAY
ST. THEN HE HAD TO HAVE A VASCULAR SURGERY AND THEY KILLED HIM DUE TO
A PERI-OPERATIVE BETA BLOCKER STUDY HE WAS IN (LIED AND SAID HE
WASN;'T)--FOUND OUT 8 MONTHS AFTER HE WAS...Actually he had
infarction, bradycardyia and more --he went into shock - he was ruined
and it never healed - one big mess ----murder-----lies ----deceit -I
happened to notice a diagnosis of collapsed lung which I was never
told and that 's when I started cking more ----I was I believe in the
state of sub conscious shock during the time he was in -almost 4
months never came home......also got encephalapathy---possible most
likely oxygen depletion from brain when heart stopped from fixed dose
one shot IV beta blocker - . altho late stage lyme can cause
encephalapathy


THIS IS A HORROR STORY - MOST PITIFUL PITIFUL THING ONE EVER SAW----
IF IT WASN'T FOR HIS BARELY TREATED ------LYME DISEASE AND THE
NEUROPATHY on his feet --- VASCULAR - VASCULITIS FEET PROBLEMS -I told
the jerks before even they did the surgery - he has vasculitis - I got
this bull shit oh a form of vasculitis........They even have a false
pre-op and post-op diagnosis to cover their A's.....

Take a look at this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxxpyGSZ4rU

Sure he was being treated for fungal infection yea yea ------it was
too far gone as he later kept going to this bastard of a rhematologist
(he was on the stubborn side) --and steriods, steriods. I guess if
one picks up antigen 89 with lab in Boston and some specifics at
Igenex ----it isn't lyme -----plus I had photos of typical rashes on
him.....A lot of his stuff (esp rashes later were more European too)---
A dr. from Newtown Pa. treated him for about 3 months and he was much
better - then that dr. chickened out and quit treating lyme and my
husband stubbornly kept going to the bastard rhematologist who after
he was first treated the rheumatologist called up and I ans. the phone
and the girl said (she asked specifically for my husband and I
listened in ) Dr. A - I really should put his F name down wants to
know the name of the dr. who is giving him the antibiotics --that
sounded very suspicious like to report him. The rheumatologist had him
as having poly myalga rheumatica.

He realized I guess the last 2 yrs that he really had lyme --he may
have been right when he did say once "Who am I going to go to ?"
what's your dr. doing for you......

Sure ACA - atrophy blanche- lichen schlerosis ----that's only in
Europe (I REALLY THINK THAT IS BULL SHIT- NOT COMMON IN US BUT IT IS
AND I DO NOT BELIEVE ALSO THAT B. AVZELI IS ONLY IN EUROPE PLUS
BURGDORFERI CAN BRING ON THESE SKIN ITEMS ALSO ALTHO UNCOMMON ---------
Well the last time I was in Europe - was 1982 in Yugoslavia and I was
infected by 2 known ticks in 89 and so was my husband 2 of his on back
of head by the hairline..from the field behind the house we built
previously.
.We knew nothing about ticks or anything --then ----------there is
much more to this - the only alternative is write a book? Unless I
die first - I fought for him - evil wins out....also Dept of Health &
Human Svces one big farce ---got a slap on the hand in ref to the
hospital's Institutional review board - Study board - and are now
sayin it would not be of any use to make the allegation that there was
unexpected serious adverse events during that surgery as they
ACKNOWLEDGE THE IRB'S WORD that there were no adverse events in the
whole study (that's a lot of bull shit or during my husband's surgery)
---did you ever see a study where no adverse events at all in whole
study......

by the way Lyme Disease was down as one his many many diagnosis on
his hospital records after he died. And if he would still be alive
if he never got that evil rotten disease and then developed those
vascular problems.


Mort Zuckerman

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Nov 29, 2009, 5:44:38 PM11/29/09
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Just Unbelievable.

A story 10,000 times told and witnessed,
and every time told, never ceases to shock
and amaze. The heartache. The abuse.

Sorry to hear it.

I really am.

I am sorry that my own "family" ruined
so many more thousands of families
and lives though the abuses to myself
and my children... cuz it wasn't ALL ABOUT THEM.

It wasn't "ALL ABOUT NANCY MARTIN"

http://www.actionlyme.org/Hilarious.htm

What can I say?
By discrediting me, my own "sister"
and her even crazier "mother" caused
this much more harm.

We were on track to get a lawfirm, ya
know. We had one hooked. Me and
Karen Forschner. 2002, the Fall....


Up in heaven, the personalities who
really count are groaning in agony,
I guarantee it.

And God as my WItness, these two would
have everyone believe they're Church Ladies.


Kathleen

Mort Zuckerman

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Nov 29, 2009, 5:54:57 PM11/29/09
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On Nov 28, 12:51 a

A lot of thos outcomes are not
Lyme but the fungi and other microbes
which grow unchecked (as is the case
with your husband) due to the Pam3Cys
immunosuppression.

Once tolerized to fungi (Pam3Cys)
and/or have your B cells crewed up and
clone themselves badly, you can get
the variety show we know as
Chronic Lyme or the New Great
Imitators.

That's why the early detection crime
of Erol Fikrig was so huge.

They know how to detect Lyme
very early and with 95% accuracy
(95% of all cases, including the
late cases).

Kathleen

Lipanj

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Nov 29, 2009, 6:50:03 PM11/29/09
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thank you Kathleen for your sympathy and understanding -----I
understand your situation completely -----you went thru hell and ---
more..........Yes there is more to this ,my story horrer and also some
unbelievable spiritual ----you are on the same wavelength in ref. to
spiritual items and religion as I am.
thank you for your kind response ---and the other part of my situation
in ref to regular legal ----you would be shocked what he pulled --
happened to find out - he is a buddy of certain who used to post here
from Phil.---I feel even tho this site is full of also sick nutty
stuff - people see it -who cares get it out
---I may blast off with some of this ---it is now also I realize what
a horror was done to Karen F. in ref also to her son - wanted her to
say they didn't find spirochetes at atopsy also. Plus what that you
know who - to use the swear word in ref. to McSweegan - the devil only
gets more happier at my anger ----what was done to her and the
fdtn.........is the most also pitiful pitiful things. They had a
legal case and lost & the snake gets paid for doing nothing. They
helped so many people with their knowledge and advice etc.
plus-----------------------In my situation - Forschner's, yours I
read - they say Jesus send suffering to those he loves -----

but it's hard and we are supposed to accept it and offer it up for
sinners ? tough - I am supposed to forgive them? and do good to your
ememies? Yes one has to think of how Jesus suffered terribly -
for us -----everyone rejected him, they spat on him - He said "Forgive
them - they no not what they do." in a way yes the crowd when they
said "Crucify Him" - it was like mob violence - the vibes like at a
sports ralley - you can say that about maybe the crowd --but the main
one who wanted to get him Herod as he was jealous of Jesus -afraid
-----yes that's it even with this Lyme evil --afraid they are -like
you say they are criminals - Herod was afraid as Jesus became
poplular , healing , miracles - afraid Herod the devil that Jesus
would become king instead of him. Forgive them - they know not
what they do but I think what about the one's who know what they do -
Herod - the bastard drs. who erred and did everything in their power
to cover up and keep it hidden ----treated me like dirt-------the
bastard lawyer who pulled a fast one on me ------Julius Iscariot poor
man's suffering blood money...I originally didn't even go to sue -
went to get my husband's study report and I am the one who discovered
the medical descrepancies - they lied and acted like he wasn't in
it - beta blocker deal-----plus like I said at same time he had lyme
vasculitis on his feet ----I don't know if I said they took of toes
off of both feet - put a stent in right leg ???? nothing wrong there
to begin with -wanted to amputate up to knee - knowing he would never
survive that - he lasted longer than they tht - they say THEY BURY
THEIR MISTAKES............after the first mess surgery I discovered
way later by some of the records accidentally slipped in - he had
infarction - that's why the leg bypass wasn't healing and the whole
mess - his heart was ruined..........


then the local lawyer right away saw there was a case and got this
snake from Phil-----came up like a lion for a pc of meat.....I was
under stress and lawyers make me nervous - well I think you get the
message.....Also the dept of H& H more to that - also - I recently
noticed the last names of some of those members of that
race.............You see none of the local in town lawyers will touch
that hospital so they get one from Phil. and split it. I actually
think the hospital may even pay the local ones a certain sum every yr.
like and ins. policy not to touch them......

The other thing you mention in ref to your own family - yes I too -
but it was in ref to a different subject.
I am going to post the beautiful unbelievable prayer I found that he
had written in the insider cover of his diary -I found a couple of
months after the poor man wtih the beautiful blue eyes wrote - he must
have written it maybe 2000 or so. The title is "To our Lord God and
his son Jesus Christ" -----He had quotation marks around it and
underlined it in red........beautiful and what they did to him
---------
I never disliked a certain race of people in fact my husband used to
stick up for them----my husband was a hardware salesman --Sentry
Hardware --he worked hard all his life - he went out on the road to
parts of NJ to his dealers- worked hard like a horse with his big
heavy catalogue of merchandise and he had a wooden box his father made
for him - he kept his dealer file folders in - He said once his best
dealer that bought the most from him was of that race - yea sure -he
took a lot of guff from them tho.........

but as all these things that happened to me (and the evil ones
involved) and a few other situations ----Your right K----
Also you SPEAK THE TRUTH-------that's why the ones with the devil say
you are crazy------------yes I know ---
You sure are not----You are very very intelligent.......

Yes also one night late it was eating me so bad and thinking of how he
suffered and the rotten lying cover up vascular drs - one in
particular -------I called their answering service and said to give
message to the one -------"WE ALL HAVE TO DIE AND WE ALL HAVE TO
ANSWER TO THE LORD"

Mort Zuckerman

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Nov 29, 2009, 11:44:39 PM11/29/09
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[YEAH, I AM QUITE CERTAIN I KNOW WHO
YOU MEAN, SOME SCHMUCK WE KNOW]

I feel even tho this site is full of also sick nutty
> stuff - people see it -who cares get it out
> ---I may blast off with some of this ---it is now also I realize what
> a horror was done to Karen F. in ref also to her son - wanted her to
> say they didn't find spirochetes at atopsy also.  Plus what that you
> know who - to use the swear word in ref. to McSweegan - the devil only
> gets more happier at my anger ----what was done to her and the
> fdtn.........is the most also pitiful pitiful things.  

YUP; THE BRAINLESS PSYOPS QUEEN IN JOISEY.


They had a
> legal case and lost & the snake gets paid for doing nothing.  They
> helped so many people with their knowledge and advice etc.
> plus-----------------------In my situation - Forschner's, yours   I
> read - they say Jesus send suffering to those he loves -----

YES; HE WHO IS TORTURED ON EARTH SHARES
IN HIS BURDEN.


> but it's hard and we are supposed to accept it and offer it up for
> sinners ?  

YES. I GUESS THERE ARE IGNORANT,
LESSER SINNERS SITTING IN THE LOWER
LEVELS OF PURGATORY. IT TAKES LITTLE
TO GO TO *HELL*- LIKE ENJOYING THE MISERY
OF ONE'S VICTIMS.

tough - I am supposed to forgive them? and do good to your
> ememies?       Yes one has to think of how Jesus suffered terribly -
> for us -----everyone rejected him, they spat on him -

YEP. EERILY SIMILAR TO WHAT I HAVE
TO GO THROUGH. TREATED LIKE THE WORST
TRASH FOR HELPING PEOPLE. BETRAYED
BY MY OWN CLAN...

YOU KNOW WHAT THE RESULT WAS, RIGHT?
CHRISTIANS SUFFERED FOR ANOTHER 300 YEARS...
THAT DOES NOT BODE WELL FOR ALL OF
LYMELAND...

He said "Forgive
> them - they no not what they do." in a way yes the crowd when they
> said "Crucify Him" - it was like mob violence - the vibes like at a
> sports ralley - you can say that about maybe the crowd --but the main
> one who wanted to get him Herod as he was jealous of Jesus -afraid
> -----yes that's it even with this Lyme evil --afraid they are -like
> you say they are criminals - Herod was afraid as Jesus became
> poplular , healing , miracles - afraid Herod the devil that Jesus
> would become king instead of him.     Forgive them - they know not
> what they do

WELL, I CANNOT FORGIVE MY OWN "FAMILY"
FOR WHAT THEY DID TO MY CHILDREN
AND OTHER PEOPLE, ONLY WHAT THEY
DID TO ME.... AND I HAD BEEN FORGIVING
THEM FOR *YEARS* BEFORE THIS ALL
HAPPENED, BECAUSE WHAT THEY DID
HERE HAS BEEN PAR FOR THE COURSE
AND NO SURPRISE, REALLY, FOR THEM.
A LIFETIME OF JEALOUSY, FOR WHAT?
BECAUSE I AM SMART AND I HAVE ALWAYS
HELPED PEOPLE?

WHICH CAME FIRST, THE HELPING PEOPLE
OR THE SMART? I CLAIM THE FORMER.

CONSIDER: I WAS ALWAYS IN THE HEALTH
FIELD, WHETHER WORKING IN A HOSPITAL
OR FOR BIGPHARMA (before I found out Pharma
is really a joke).

but I think what about the one's who know what they do -

YES; IT IS IN THE BIBLE THAT THEY WILL BE
HELD TO A VERY HIGH STANDARD; "MORE WILL
BE ASKED OF A MAN TO WHOM MORE HAS
BEEN ENTRUSTED." I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE
ONE OF A CERTAIN VERY LARGE # OF PEOPLE ON
THE DAY THEY CROSS OVER BECAUSE SATAN IS
GOING TO BE RIGHT THERE WAITING FOR THEM:
http://www.actionlyme.org/EXORCISMS.htm
TO DRAG THEM DOWN TO HELL.

> Herod - the bastard drs. who erred and did everything in their power
> to cover up and keep it hidden ----treated me like dirt-------the
> bastard lawyer who pulled a fast one on me ------Julius Iscariot poor
> man's suffering blood money...I originally didn't even go to sue -
> went to get my husband's study report and I am the one who discovered
> the medical descrepancies -    they lied and acted like he wasn't in
> it - beta blocker deal-----plus like I said at same time he had lyme
> vasculitis on his feet ----I don't know if I said they took of toes
> off of both feet - put a stent in right leg ???? nothing wrong there
> to begin with -wanted to amputate up to knee - knowing he would never
> survive that - he lasted longer than they tht - they say THEY BURY
> THEIR MISTAKES.......

YIKES. AND NO HELP.
WORSE, AT TIMES LIKE THESE YOU BLAME
YOURSELF...

.....after the first mess surgery I discovered

> way later by some of the records accidentally slipped in - ...
>
> read more »

LUCKILY HE WAS YOUR HUSBAND AND NOT
YOUR KIDS OR THEY WOULD HAVE BLAMED
YOU. THINK ABOUT IT. THEY HAVE A TORTURE
FORMULARY READY FOR EVERY TYPE OF CASE.
INSTEAD OF "DEFENSIVE MEDICINE," IT HAS
MORPHED INTO OFFENSIVE MEDICINE.

UNREAL.

WELP, THEY'LL FIND OUT HELL IS REAL FOR
ALL THE UNREAL THEY'VE DEALT US.. ALL OF
THEM! THEY TOOK PLEASURE IN TORTURING
US, EVEN THE LAWYER FROM PHIL, EVEN
MY "SISTER..."

'EVERY LAST LIAR WHO DERIVED SATISFACTION.
'EVERY LAST SO-CALLED LYME ACTIVIST LEADER.
'EVERY LAST SELF-DESCRIBED "PROTECTOR OF
CHILDREN."
'EVERY LAST SELF-DESCRIBED "GUM-SHOW JOURNALIST..."
WHO WOULD NOT HELP, BUT INSTEAD....

Kathleen

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