why can't I search sci.med.dentistry anymore?
sam
I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even putting in
really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't bring up
any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring up
dozens.
Does anyone know what's happened?
Mark & Steven Bornfeld
I don't have an answer, but I've heard much the same about searching
the google groups archives in other usenet groups.
I think there may be a workaround, but I don't know what it is.
Steve
--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
Steven Bornfeld
> sam wrote:
>> I consult newsgroups via Google, in my local library.
>>
>> I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even putting in
>> really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't bring up
>> any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring up
>> dozens.
>>
>> Does anyone know what's happened?
>
>
> I don't have an answer, but I've heard much the same about searching
> the google groups archives in other usenet groups.
> I think there may be a workaround, but I don't know what it is.
>
> Steve
>
OK, here's what I found on another ng. If you search within the group
on google, you will only get a few hits from the past few weeks.
However, if you go to the google groups homepage:
...and enter after your keywords the group name (sci.med.dentistry), you
should get a much greater number of hits.
Steve
sam
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Thanks for these replies - I really appreciate it.
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
Google groups has gotten worse and worse. It used
to be easy to search for relevant forum. There used
to and may still be a usenet archive on a European website.
As I recall one had to pay to post but one could read it for free.
These days one has persist, going down into the
searches to find much.
I think the big boys don't like the Usenet as it is
not completely controlled.
Google had better be careful or people will start using
Bing or something else. It is degrading and becoming more also
ran all the time.........................Trig
The Webby
<28983a93-6ed8-4d87...@u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
"trigonom...@gmail.com |" <trigonom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 14, 6:17�am, sam <samholler...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > I consult newsgroups via Google, in my local library.
> >
> > I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even putting in
> > really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't bring up
> > any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring up
> > dozens.
> >
> > Does anyone know what's happened?
>
[cut]
IMHO DejaNews was The Boss. AltaVista provided a good service too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deja_News
Webby
JLA
>
>
> Google groups has gotten worse and worse. It used
> to be easy to search for relevant forum. There used
> to and may still be a usenet archive on a European website.
> As I recall one had to pay to post but one could read it for free.
>
> These days one has persist, going down into the
> searches to find much.
>
> I think the big boys don't like the Usenet as it is
> not completely controlled.
>
> Google had better be careful or people will start using
> Bing or something else. It is degrading and becoming more also
> ran all the time.........................Trig
There is a mirror for this group here
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=303
Jan Drew
> In article
> <28983a93-6ed8-4d87-9a46-1b314a4f5...@u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> �"trigonometry1...@gmail.com |" <trigonometry1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 14, 6:17�am, sam <samholler...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > I consult newsgroups via Google, in my local library.
>
> > > I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even putting in
> > > really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't bring up
> > > any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring up
> > > dozens.
>
> > > Does anyone know what's happened?
>
> [cut]
>
> IMHO DejaNews was The Boss. �AltaVista provided a good service too.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deja_News
>
> Webby
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Risk_disclaimer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Medical_disclaimer
The Webby
<ca18f971-5511-4b7e...@z28g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
Jan Drew <jdrew...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Sep 19, 3:38?pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...@cox.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <28983a93-6ed8-4d87-9a46-1b314a4f5...@u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> > ?"trigonometry1...@gmail.com |" <trigonometry1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sep 14, 6:17?am, sam <samholler...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > I consult newsgroups via Google, in my local library.
> >
> > > > I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even putting in
> > > > really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't bring up
> > > > any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring up
> > > > dozens.
> >
> > > > Does anyone know what's happened?
> >
> > [cut]
> >
> > IMHO DejaNews was The Boss. ?AltaVista provided a good service too.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deja_News
> >
> > Webby
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Risk_disclaimer
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Medical_disclaimer
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Legal_disclaimer
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_disclaimer
To avoid any confusion:
These links have nothing to do with my post and a Wikipedia reference
about the history of DejaNews or AltaVista which were search engines.
Happy Oyster
Hi, Webby,
Jan Drew falls apart. She even cannot count to 2.
Her behavior is criminal and all tries to stop her from harassing, stalking,
lying, and making false medicals claims are absolutely fruitless.
I consider it only a matter of time until she will be ousted by her church, if
she already isn't that...
--
"Syrer besetzten die St�dte,
frevelten dort um die Wette.
Wollten von Jahwe nichts wissen,
wurden von L�wen zerrissen." http://www.reimbibel.de
trigonometry1972@gmail.com |
> There is a mirror for this group herehttp://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=303
Ah the wonders of cross postings. I post into MHA and it
apparently went to a dentistry forum and mirror.
Still thanks as I take a certain pleasure in mirror sites.
In that I have my assorted hobby horses I like to ride so to
speak and I like when others are offered the ride.
Dartos
One thing is for sure. Someone knows how to do it (though not with
total understanding <G>).
I had a woman call me at the office from Florida about Sargenti endo
and AH26 saying I posted
supporting the techniques and materials. She went on to say she
inferred that I encouraged other
dentists to use the materials.
These supposed posts came from 2003.
I do support one appointment endo for a large portion of teeth needing
root canals, but I have never
supported what is commonly called 'Sargenti endo' or AH26.
No harm done, but it was a ridiculous waste of time.
Steve F.
The Webby
matriarch wanting a group picture was very disappointed because only
almost everyone was in the same place at the same time; note I wrote
"almost everyone", rather than "everyone". Certain relatives said,
"just photoshop the others in" .... and you'll have the whole family
pictured together ... no one will know the difference!"
Say what??????
Usenet can be a lot like photoshopping-in the missing faces or thinking
the picture is complete not realizing there are missing faces. Either
way, it takes a *long* time and requires a substantial volume of data in
order to actually have a good understanding about the ideas of others
who post to a particular group on particular subjects.
It's better to realize when something (someone) is missing than to
pretend that the image is complete if you want a quality snapshot of any
collection of individuals.
In the case of a group photo ... you shouldn't just photoshop in the
ones who couldn't be there just because you can so that the picture
looks the way you imagined it ...
Technology has given us many tools to shortcut life itself in many ways.
But in our rush to find quick answers and solutions to problems, it is
easy to forget that sometimes we need to be more patient in our quest to
understand the perspectives of others.
~~~~~~~
The following is from the book, "The TMJ Iatroepidemic", page 307.
From: PWM...@prodigy.com (K Wirth)
Newsgroups: sci.med.dentistry
Subject: Re: TMJ
Date: 1996
Are you saying that Alta Vista can pull up anyone's posts from some
secret archive.? What will they think of next?
kw
~~~~~~~~
A couple of us had already thought up "Netcanting" ... for the purpose
of promoting a more complete understanding of the subject being
discussed over three year's time.
I often think about "kw" and all the others who gathered for the group
photo taken in 1997. Some of them are still here and proud of it! Some
have died ... and some just quit posting or took on new identities and
continued "anonymously".
Webby
In article <f18he5l47hn395h8a...@4ax.com>,
Lurch Adams <lur...@lurch.org> wrote:
> Yet another reason to keep your personal contact information off the
> 'net.
The Webby
<tmjiatroepidemic-3F...@newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com
>,
The Webby <tmjiatro...@cox.net> wrote:
[cut]
>
> In the case of a group photo ... you shouldn't just photoshop in the
> ones who couldn't be there just because you can so that the picture
> looks the way you imagined it ...
Of course, OTOH, maybe you should just because you can! ;-)
>
> Technology has given us many tools to shortcut life itself in many ways.
> But in our rush to find quick answers and solutions to problems, it is
> easy to forget that sometimes we need to be more patient in our quest to
> understand the perspectives of others.
>
[cut]
It's sort of like me just cutting out all the unnecessary words. But I
did mark "[cut]" indicating text removal. And in the digital world, all
the words are more than likely never really removed (read: lost);
they're just moved and misplaced until recovered at some later point in
time. ;-)
Webby (couldn't resist the opportunity)
The Webby
Groups ... let me/us know.
The Great and Mighty Google does not believe this poster or post ever
existed; and therefore has no memory of kw's post in 1996.
So... I ask, is Google photoshopping-out and leaving the real image to
memory of those who were there at the time?
Hmmm ... sometimes this stuff just gives me reason to spend time
thinking about what probably doesn't matter to much of anyone else.
But, Google has, in effect, re-written history as though it is complete
when in fact, it only tells part of the story that is/was "us".
By choice, I have chosen to spend some of my time today doing this. No
one is forcing me... and no one is stopping me either.
In memory of those Google has forgotten,
Webby ;-)
In article
<tmjiatroepidemic-3F...@newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com
>,
The Webby <tmjiatro...@cox.net> wrote:
[cut]
>
[cut]
Dartos
:-)
D
The Webby
posters don't go away they just relocate
:-)
W
In article <12578693...@news.newsville.com>,
Dartos
I know he wasn't your favorite fellow, but he's a decent guy. Just
a little sarcastic and blunt.
D
The Webby
and I figure I wasn't his favorite person either!!! hahaha. But letting
bygones be bygones, I used that post as an exhibit to how things were
changing and how they have changed again!
Like I've said many times, I think most of us who battled it out in the
day would likely get along just fine given the chance to assemble in
real life.
I'm sincerely glad to know that you're in touch with him and that he's
doing well.
The Webby ;-)
In article <12579370...@news.newsville.com>,
Dartos
> I'm sincerely glad to know that you're in touch with him and that he's
> doing well.
>
> The Webby ;-)
I never said he was 'doing well'....
He still talks about perhaps getting his hygienist a new snow
shovel for Christmas.
<VBG>
D
The Webby
Dartos <tuthj...@myturbonet.com> wrote:
LOL!!!! Guess he's not doing much fishing these days ... or maybe too
much fishing! ;-)
W
Jan
> In article
> <28983a93-6ed8-4d87-9a46-1b314a4f5...@u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > On Sep 14, 6:17�am, sam <samholler...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > I consult newsgroups via Google, in my local library.
>
> > > I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even putting in
> > > really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't bring up
> > > any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring up
> > > dozens.
>
> > > Does anyone know what's happened?
>
> [cut]
>
> IMHO DejaNews was The Boss. �AltaVista provided a good service too.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deja_News
>
> Webby
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer
Jan
> �Jan Drew <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 19, 3:38?pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <28983a93-6ed8-4d87-9a46-1b314a4f5...@u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> > > ?"trigonometry1...@gmail.com |" <trigonometry1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 14, 6:17?am, sam <samholler...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > I consult newsgroups via Google, in my local library.
>
> > > > > I've often searched this group, but I notice that now, even putting in
> > > > > really common terms such as 'rct' and 'remineralize' doesn't bring up
> > > > > any search results, whereas in the past, such terms would bring up
> > > > > dozens.
>
> > > > > Does anyone know what's happened?
>
> > > [cut]
>
> > > IMHO DejaNews was The Boss. ?AltaVista provided a good service too.
>
> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deja_News
>
> > > Webby
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Risk_disclaimer
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Medical_disclaimer
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Legal_disclaimer
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_disclaimer
>
> To avoid any confusion:
> These links have nothing to do with my post and a Wikipedia reference
Of course they do.
> about the history of DejaNews or AltaVista which were search engines.- Hide quoted text -
You posted:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deja_News
Jan
[cut]
The Webby
<4ad58b71-71d2-4641...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
Jan <jdrew...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Sep 19, 2:38?pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> [cut]
Dear smd,
Don't you just love it when this ([cut]) happens? There are similar
constant occurrences in life which provide humanity with a source of
comfort....such as the sun coming up every day... *just because* it's
important to have a sense of "constant-ness" in life. And for some,
the idea of change is simply more than they can handle... under any
circumstances.
Webby
vaughn
"The Webby" <tmjiatro...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:tmjiatroepidemic-6D...@newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com...
> In article
> <4ad58b71-71d2-4641...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> Jan <jdrew...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 19, 2:38?pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> [cut]
>
> Dear smd,
>
> Don't you just love it when this ([cut]) happens?
Hello Webby. You probably think that this thread is too old for anyone to
really be paying attention...right?
Vaughn
The Webby
"vaughn" <vaughnsimo...@gmail.FAKE.com> wrote:
Hello Vaughn. I think there is (at least) one poster who doesn't want
anyone in the entire world to ever take anything I have ever posted into
consideration... right?
Webby
vaughn
>
> Hello Vaughn. I think there is (at least) one poster who doesn't want
> anyone in the entire world to ever take anything I have ever posted into
> consideration... right?
Who knows? Perhaps after all these years bygones have finally become bygones?
(Look for an e-mail)
Vaughn
Happy Oyster
>On Sep 19, 2:38?pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>[cut]
Ah, yes, the typical Jan Drew harassing. Like the last ten years.
Time again for a reminder about one of the most stuopid liars in the whole net:
Janet mae Stidd, aka Jan Drew.
Look at these amazing figures:
<quote>
Posting-Aktivit�t
Jan. Feb. Mrz. Apr. Mai Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Okt. Nov. Dez.
- .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... ....
2006 - 157 2293 1921 1837 2092 2273 1865 1797 2453 1600 1042
****
2007 475 357 406 523 561 490 370 287 326 435 798 552
2008 942 1346 892 1006 579 1076 742 877 451 555 383 424
2009 909 691 585 345 861 835 423
</quote>
In october 2006 she had 2453 posting from one account.
FAQ about JAN DREW, the Net stalker and agent for the naturopathic mafia
========================================================================
Part V
======
1. The 3rd Jan Drew shows up. Who is he?
2. The history of Jan Drew
3. Where is Jan Drew?
4. Bloomington, Indiana - what a town...?
5. Jan Drew in Bloomington, Indiana
6. The second marriage of Janet Mae Stidd
1. The 3rd Jan Drew shows up. Who is he?
========================================
Yesterday, on July 15th., 2009, Jan Drew used this email address:
"Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net>
today, a Jan Drew shows up and makes the very same mess as the Jan Drew before.
The question is: Is this new Jan Drew the very same as the old one?
Have a look at this header of a posting by the old Jan Drew:
<quote>
Reply-To: "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net>
From: "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net>
*******************************************
Newsgroups:
alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,alt.support.breast-implant,sci.med.dentistry
References: <2Tv5m.13822$Dx2....@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com>
<4a56c915$1...@news.x-privat.org>
<5887315b-4039-4968...@k20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>
<1n5f55h7u4c42bi46...@4ax.com>
<c5f6d3c6-9b06-41d2...@m18g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>
<4a57...@news.x-privat.org>
<e0ee83b9-fd44-4b4e...@j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>
<4a59...@news.x-privat.org>
<c3fb2c8b-309c-476f...@f16g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>
<%tR6m.13435$j84...@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>
<598f2214-9713-4260...@r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
In-Reply-To: <598f2214-9713-4260...@r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Turning every which way
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:08:06 -0400
misc.health.alternative:625434 misc.kids.health:185126
alt.support.breast-implant:159698 sci.med.dentistry:311488
[name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years] wrote in message
news:598f2214-9713-4260...@r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 13, 9:48 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years] wrote in message
</quote>
The old Jan Drew posts from the IP
X-Trace: nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com 1247630893 ST000 70.239.89.125 (Wed, 15 Jul 2009
The new Jan Drew with the email address
Jan Drew <drew...@gmail.com>
posts from this IP:
Injection-Info: r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.239.93.194;
See this piece of proof:
<quote>
From: Jan Drew <drew...@gmail.com>
*************************************
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Subject: Re: TURNABOUT IS FAIR PLAY
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:25:41 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:25:41 +0000 (UTC)
Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
Injection-Info: r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.239.93.194;
*************************************************************************
posting-account=OFeWnQoAAABbB1i9TveLsH6hCiYooPyP
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Gecko/20090624 Firefox/3.5 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
Oh, dear [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years] is shouting
again. You should be careful. Remember you
will be 64 in November of this year.
Regardless of all your antics to prove otherwise. The fact is you
posted your birthday.
On Jul 15, 11:27�pm, [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years]
wrote:
> For years Jan has felt it is her right to report anyone she wishes to
> their ISP or email provider.
>
> She has now claimed that she has reported me.
>
> It is time to stop her.
>
> I am asking everyone who is fed up with this disgusting person's
> actions to report her to her ISP: Make it so that they will do
> something because they are working too hard dealing with complaints
> about her.
>
> It is time to stop her.
>
> Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!news2.google.com!
> news.glorb.com!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!flph199.ffdc.sbc.com!
> prodigy.com!nlpi071.nbdc.sbc.com!flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com.POSTED!6c044f75!
> not-for-mail
> Reply-To: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net>
> From: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net>
> Newsgroups:alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,alt.support.breast-implant,sci.med.dentistry
> References: <2Tv5m.13822$Dx2....@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com>
> <4a56c91...@news.x-privat.org>
> <5887315b-4039-4968-96b4-690ef356c...@k20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>
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> privat.org>
> <c3fb2c8b-309c-476f-85e1-105728115...@f16g2000vbf.googlegroups.com> <
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> Jul 2009 22:53:29 EDT)
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> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:01:45 -0400
>
> I suggest you read your terms of service
> At Gmail.com,Optimum.net, cv.net, and google.com
You are not fooling me, [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years].
I happen to know you reported
me several days ago.
And, what does Torah say about turnabout is fair play?
</quote>
So we have:
From: Jan Drew <drew...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:25:41 -0700 (PDT)
but about an hour later, with the same email address another IP shows up:
From: Jan Drew <drew...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:41:12 -0700 (PDT)
See this piece of proof:
<quote>
From: Jan Drew <drew...@gmail.com>
**********************************************
Newsgroups:
alt.support.attn-deficit,sci.med,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
Subject: Re: ADHD Drugs Proven Absolutely Useless for Children - Plus, They
Stunt Growth
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:41:12 -0700 (PDT)
**********************************************
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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Message-ID: <356ea98d-dfc2-471b...@r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
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<a6427afd-254c-44e3...@o36g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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X-Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:41:12 +0000 (UTC)
Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
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posting-account=OFeWnQoAAABbB1i9TveLsH6hCiYooPyP
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Trident/4.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR
3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
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spider-mtc-ta11.proxy.aol.com[400C700B] (Prism/1.2.1)
On Jul 12, 7:01�pm, [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years]
wrote:
> On Jul 12, 1:48�am, bosco62a <bosco...@yahoo.com> wrote:
</quote>
This is the IP:
Injection-Info: r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=64.12.112.11;
So we see that
Jan Drew <drew...@gmail.com>
also uses this IP from AOL:
<quote>
IP Information for 64.12.112.11
IP Location: United States Reston America Online Inc
Resolve Host: spider-mtc-ta11.proxy.aol.com
IP Address: 64.12.112.11
Blacklist Status: Clear
Whois Record
OrgName:����America�Online,�Inc.�
OrgID:������AMERIC-158
Address:����10600�Infantry�Ridge�Road
City:�������Manassas
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</quote>
AOL is the very same provider which Jan Drew #1 used.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
2. The history of Jan Drew
==========================
This new Jan Drew is #3 as Jan Drew #1 was the one with the AOL account.
#1. jdrew...@aol.com (JDrew63929)
#2. "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net>
#3. Jan Drew <drew...@gmail.com>
I looked at the profiles of Jan Drew #1 and Jan Drew #2:
That is for Jan Drew's old account at AOL.
jdrew...@aol.com (JDrew63929)
<quote>�
Posting-Aktivit�t
Jan. Feb. Mrz. Apr. Mai Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Okt. Nov. Dez.
1999 - - 191 99 54 223 289 260 203 359 297 192
2000 109 276 414 249 461 628 384 284 191 60 416 626
2001 534 152 572 297 677 430 715 621 281 278 392 599
2002 788 481 343 390 508 718 666 643 655 874 561 954
2003 621 866 932 646 629 746 539 593 595 500 521 569
2004 459 692 958 716 749 524 694 1045 784 1007 1151 977
2005 480 1143 206 - - - - 5� - - - 2�
2006 �3� �7� 10 157 �6� 13 21 �3� 21 43 �5� 24
2007 74 37 - �5� - 5� �2 � - �1� - - -
2008 �9� - - - 21 - - - - - - -
</quote>
This is for "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net>
http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=5J_FIxcAAADGQdj7vwDkkkzclBLHYN6whUEdIBtH1-9oWMCTqaiMrA
<quote>
Posting-Aktivit�t
Jan. Feb. Mrz. Apr. Mai Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Okt. Nov. Dez.
- .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... ....
2006 - 157 2293 1921 1837 2092 2273 1865 1797 2453 1600 1042
2007 475 357 406 523 561 490 370 287 326 435 798 552
2008 942 1346 892 1006 579 1076 742 877 451 555 383 424
2009 909 691 585 345 861 835 423
</quote>
As you can see: The old account at AOL still is used, but less often.
Here you can see the activities of Jan Drew #3:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
3. Where is Jan Drew?
=====================
In an old posting I found the word "Bloomington", which made me curious. So I
tried to find more about it.
This I now found with the word "bloomington":
http://www.theangelconnection.net/school9.html
<quote>
2433) Bill Drew, Bloomington, Indiana
2434) Jan Drew, Bloomington, Indiana
</quote>
I also found this:
<quote>
LookupAnyone.com - People Directory - Jan Drew
Drew, Jan L, 63, Cheyenne, WY.
Drew, Jana Brittain, 45, Wilmington, NC.
Drew, Janelle L, 36, Sublette, IL.
Drew, Janet B, 70, Bloomington, IN ...
***************************************
www.lookupanyone.com/namelistings/jan-drew.html
LookupAnyone.com - People Directory - Jan Harper
Harper, Jan L, 84, Loveland, CO. Harper, Jan Drew, 53, Fairview, NC ...
Harper, Jan E, 54, Cincinnati, OH. Harper, Jan, Bloomington, IN ...
www.lookupanyone.com/namelistings/jan-harper.html
</quote>
Well, Bloomington turns out to be a town in Indiana.
The WHOIS for the IP of Jan Drew #2 (which actually is Jan Drew #3)
gives for (see above!)
nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com 1247630893 ST000 70.239.89.125 (Wed, 15 Jul 2009
this result:
<quote>
IP Information for 70.239.89.125
IP Location: United States Bloomington AT&T Internet Services
**************************************************************
Resolve Host: adsl-70-239-89-125.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net
*********************************************************
IP Address: 70.239.89.125
Blacklist Status: Clear
Whois Record
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OrgID:������SIS-80
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</quote>
Bloomington, Indiana.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
4. Bloomington, Indiana - what a town...?
=========================================
Searching with
Jan Drew Blomington
one hit is this:
<quote>
Recently Visited Groups | Help | Sign in
misc.health.alternative
Message from discussion Debbee/Deborah Annie Adams either Put up or Shut
up!--Jan Drew wins the SEA EWE EN TEA Award
View parsed - Show only message text
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From: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net>
******************************************
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.support.breast-implant
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<e6169a9d-670c-4443...@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To:
<e6169a9d-670c-4443...@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re:
Debbee/Deborah Annie Adams either Put up or Shut up!--Jan Drew wins the SEA EWE
EN TEA Award
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X-Trace: nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com 1215143201 ST000 70.239.91.212 (Thu, 03 Jul 2008
23:46:41 EDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:46:41 EDT
Organization: at&t http://my.att.net/
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:46:08 -0400
You, Deborah Annie Adams first wrote:
Jan:
Since it would appear that you always have to be "right,"
it would appear that you can not admit that you invented some stories about me
that are not truthful in nature.
I sent you a "cease and desist" letter from this email address.
I only came back to post (I still get all of the emails from the
group) and make it very perfectly clear that you
have no clue of what you are discussing about me, and those that do, are
laughing at you.
Would you rather be, "right," in your own mind, or look foolish
amongst those that are "in the know."
I'm no longer reading this newsgroup, and came back when yet again, you would
appear to be a few sandwiches short of a full picnic,
and I will not longer tolerate the garbage that is spewing from your toxic
mouth.
Leave my name out of your discussions. Lose my name from your
vocabulary.
Got it? I hope so.
And by the way, Annie is a nickname that some people call me because it is part
of my name.
Just because I am no longer posting, does not mean I am no longer
reading.
"BeeStings" <dbeesti...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:5fb276c9-4492-466d...@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> Jan:
Yes, Debbee?
OrgName: Netscape Communications Corp.
OrgID: NSCP
Address: 501 E. Middlefield
City: Mountain View
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 94043
Country: US
NetRange: 207.200.64.0 - 207.200.127.255
CIDR: 207.200.64.0/18
NetName: NETSCAPE-CIDR
NetHandle: NET-207-200-64-0-1
Parent: NET-207-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS.NETSCAPE.COM
NameServer: NS2.NETSCAPE.COM
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
RegDate: 1996-09-06
Updated: 2001-03-28
RTechHandle: AOL-NOC-ARIN
RTechName: America Online, Inc.
RTechPhone: +1-703-265-4670
RTechEmail: doma...@aol.net
> Since it would appear that you always have to be "right,"
Oh, really?
*would appear*, why don't you just speak up?
> it would appear that you can not admit that you invented some stories about me that are not truthful in nature.
I have nothing to admit, since I did NOT invent any stories about you, Debbee
*****************************************************************************
Adams.
******
> I sent you a "cease and desist" letter from this email address.
NO, you did not. In fact you sent me an email form SNIFFFTHIS,
and used the name Annie, then signed it B.
> I only came back to post (I still get all of the emails from the group) and make it very perfectly clear that you
> have no clue of what you are discussing about me, and those that do, are laughing at you.
> Would you rather be, "right," in your own mind, or look foolish
> amongst those that are "in the know."
> I'm no longer reading this newsgroup, and came back when yet again, you would appear to be a few sandwiches short of a full picnic,
> and I will not longer tolerate the garbage that is spewing from your toxic mouth.
> Leave my name out of your discussions. Lose my name from your
> vocabulary.
> Got it? I hope so.
> And by the way, Annie is a nickname that some people call me because it is part of my name.
lol. I thought you said you were not Annie?
> Just because I am no longer posting, does not mean I am no longer reading.
lol. Poor Debbee:
*I'm no longer reading this newsgroup*.
Get help.
Now, I will in fact post the email you sent me in another post.
And......................
Don't even think about telling me what to do, post, or--otherwise, Debbee. Got
that?
Debbee A Adams do NOT email me again using different names, and a bit of history
From Dbeesti...@aol.com Sat Jun 21 01:21:49 2008
X-Apparently-To: jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net via 209.191.85.222; Sat, 21 Jun 2008
01:21:56 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [64.12.137.9]
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domainkeys=neutral (no sig)
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-0400 (EDT)
From: Dbeesti...@aol.com Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Message-ID: <d64.27777f10.358e1...@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:21:49 EDT
Subject: "Cease and Desist"
To: jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net
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June 21, 2008
This written to advise you to "cease and desist" from discussing me, and
libeling me any further than you have. I'm tired of you posting about
untruthful information about me, and Annie is one of my names.
I have proof that my computer was hacked into, and hacked into people connected
to Quackwatch. All you are doing is making a bigger fool out of yourself than
you already have. Bob Kulacz, and Tim Bolen have copies of the emails I sent.
The windows portion of my Mac Book was hacked into, and I'm no longer on
Wireless. I am on dial-up.
You have no idea of what you are talking about.
You falsely accused me of (Bob Kulacz forwarded me the emails) of going to
California to stalk Ilena, that I had joined the gang, and that you didn't trust
me. This was entire fairy tale that you and Ilena made up, and I'm sorry that
you feel that anyone that doesn't agree with you is a LIAR, but you have
libelled me for the last time. It will not happen again. I am no longer
posting there and there is no further need to discuss me.
Ask your attorney to explain what "LIBEL" is. Calling someone a liar just
because you don't happen to believe them, is libel.
And there are two J. Drew's. It was even pointed out by another poster in the
group.
Thank you.
Deborah Annie Adams
--------------------------------------------
OOPs, note is is now J. Drew and not Jan Drew's
Now, let's see what both Myrl Jeffcoat and Coleah Ayres has to say about Debbee
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/8239d7e6a3...
Oct 27, 2007
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant
From: Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:52:42 -0000
Local: Sat, Oct 27 2007 10:52 am
Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA
You have contacted my employer which goes outside the bounds of civil behavior
one Usenet. I consider you to be a stalker and abuser.
Therefore, I will no longer respond to you except to post this
message.
YOU ARE HEREBY PLACED ON NOTICE NOT TO ATTEMPT TO CONTACT ME IN THE SLIGHTEST
MANNER. YOU ARE NOT TO CONTACT ANYONE ABOUT ME. TO DO SO WILL JUSTIFY MY TAKING
FURTHER ACTION, WHEN, WHERE AND WHAT AS I SEE FIT.
On Oct 27, 12:16 am, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 26, 4:37 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > For a list of the actual webpages created by Ilena Rosenthal, please visit:
> >http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com/ilenawebpages.html
> > For the Truth and the Facts surrounding Ilena Rosenthal and her foundation, please visit:
> >http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
> I ran Ilena Rosenthal's name through a bunch of databases. I also called the DRE. Ilena Rosenthal has a license through the DRE, as do you, Myrl Jeffcoat. Have you done anything Myrl or Ilena that would violate the code ethics of the licenses you have?? I'm kind of curious to find out if something I read a while back has any truth attached to it. I have read where fans of celebrities have started websites using the celebrities names in the website address, and the celebrities have successfully been able to have those websites removed because the fan was using a name other than their own in the web address, and without permission.
------------------------------------
Follow that thread. You will see Debbee Adams--Snifffthis has nuked her posts.
However, she evidently cannot nuke her profile.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/948ed26ada...
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant
From: Coleah <col...@pacifier.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:56:27 -0700
Local: Tues, Oct 23 2007 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA
DEBBEE SAID: "Apparently you have nothing better to do, some of us work for a
living. Some of us have real lives."
>From the mouth of (2nd from left) blonde:
Debbee A Adams (54)
San Carlos, CA and Milton, WA
http://www.louielouie.net/pix-2007/loufest2007/ep-da-jeff-rfs.jpg
I am very happily RETIRED from working.
But, thank you for your 'unusual concern' about how I spend MY time. You
wouldn't have been 'baiting' to learn who my 'employer' was, so you could
complain about me, were you?????? Chortle, chortle,
chortle.
[Apparently DEBBEE has nothing better to do (while she's 'working' so hard for a
living) than to search the internet looking for some kind of 'dirt' on people.
The best she could do with me was find a
reference to a store I previously owned.]
Is that YOUR 'real life', DEBBEE?
Certainly writing for little known rag called 60's Beat can't be all you do to
pay the rent.
>From a few previous poster's mentioning something about DEBBEE and a
lawsuit....I got the impression DEBBEE had sued Mark Lindsey of Paul Revere and
the Raiders. Alas it appears was the other way around. Funny how she denied any
knowledge of it however.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/536569d0bf...
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant
From: Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:06:53 -0000
Local: Tues, Oct 23 2007 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA
On Oct 23, 2:33 pm, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Oct 23, 9:56 am, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote:
> I know nothing of what you are speaking about.
> I'm not the editor of any publication.
> I do not live in Milton, WA or San Carlos, CA
> There goes your credibility, Coleah right down the tube.
> Deb Adams is not even my real name.
So then Debbee - when you contacted corporate GMAC in the last couple of days,
to complain about me, you are saying you lied about your
name???
---------------------------------------
On Oct 23, 4:43 pm, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Oct 23, 3:50 pm, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote:
> It is *not your business*, Miss Busy Body, of *who* I am, *what* I do for a living, and *where* I live. Nor is *your business* what I am even
> doing here. This is the Usenet, and ANYONE can post here, for any reason. Got it? Good. Mind your own business, and I'll mind mine.
Wow - Debbee is calling people "Miss Busy Body" - and stating it isn't our
business to know *who" she is, *what" she does for a living, or *where* she
lives. Yet, she sees fit to get into other people's
business, calling their employers, etc. and giving fictious and
defamatory information.
What a piece of work you are Debbee!
I can understand why you would wish to come out from under a rock to do your
business, and then slither right back under again, once you've done your
reptilian handiwork!
You appear to be just another "free speech" hypocrite.
"BeeStings" <dbeesti...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:572e071b-2610-4d60...@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
> Jan Drew wrote:
>> lol. Poor Debbee:
>> *I'm no longer reading this newsgroup*.
>> Get help.
>> Now, I will in fact post the email you sent me in another post. And......................
>> Don't even think about telling me what to do, post, or--otherwise, Debbee.
>> Got that?
> It would appear that you need professional help in dealing with your abusive behavior.
> Just because someone has abused you in the past, or present, does not give you the absolute
> right to abuse others. Nor does it give you any special privileges to post lies about people you do not even know.
> If you do not know where to turn for professional help; I suggest contacting your doctor and asking for referrals.
> You are the one that needs help, not me.
> I think it would be in your best interest to remove the post you just made.
> Thank you.
It DOES appear, not *would* that YOU Deborah Annie Adams need professional help.
You have NEVER proven a single one of your false accusations. Nor--have you
proven you KNOW
there are two Jan Drew's posting on any of the same groups *I* Jan Drew post on.
There has been no abusive behavior towards you for me.
Your words:
* Just because someone has abused you in the past, or present, does not
give you the absolute
right to abuse others.*
And, just who would that be? Where did that come from?
It DOES appear, you do not know what you are posting about
So much for libel.
Now, either put up or shut up!
Create a group - Google Groups - Google Home - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy
�2009 Google
</quote>
Jan Drew in another case of Net stalking, as in unknown other cases before and
later.
What did Jan Drew write?:
<quote>
I have nothing to admit, since I did NOT invent any stories about you, Debbee
*****************************************************************************
Adams.
******
</quote>
That is fine because I did not invent any stories about Jan Drew. I only
followed this figure and archived material...
Jan Drew also wrote:
<quote>
Follow that thread. You will see Debbee Adams--Snifffthis has nuked her posts.
However, she evidently cannot nuke her profile.
</quote>
Jan Drew does not seem to know what a boomerang is...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
5. Jan Drew in Bloomington, Indiana
===================================
Jan Drew claims to have owned a children day care center. But one of the many
things which Jan Drew refused to ever prove was this. Jan Drew even refused to
prove that he/she is female.
Well, looking for Jan Drew Bloomington reveiled many details.
Like this one:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/janet-drew/9/302/551
<quote>
Janet Drew
Owner, rtired
Bloomington, Indiana Area Research
Current
Owner at rtired
Connections
0 connections
Public Profile
</quote>
And this one:
http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/comments/cmt.php?sto_uri
=L3N0b3JpZXMvMjAwOC8wNi8yNS9uZXdzLnFwLTkxNDQwMjYuc3Rv&start=24
http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/comments/cmt.php?sto_uri=L3N0b3JpZXMvMjAwOC8wNi8yNS9uZXdzLnFwLTkxNDQwMjYuc3Rv&start=24
<quote>
Janet Drew
Thursday, June 26, 2008: 6:23 pm
More from 'Janet Drew' God Bless Leon. He is no longer in pain.
My daughter Jacque Nelson brought Hinkles from him.
*************************
I got to know him. He hadn't felt well for some time. Larrry (his son) and wife
Joan took him to their
home in Florida. So happy he was with them when he passed away.
He will never be forgotten by any here in Bloomington who knew and loved him.
*****************************************************
Rest in peace, Leon.
</quote>
And this one:
http://www.complaintsboard.com/bycity/united-states/indiana/bloomington/page/3
<quote>
Complaints in Bloomington, Indiana
==================================
Intelius
Posted: 2008-05-28 by Janet [send email]
Credit card not credited
Complaint Rating:
Talked with Carmen. All charges were to be credited. Conformation # 12056098.
$4.95 of 5-14-08 has not been credited. Do so immediately.
Janet Drew
Reply to jdrew...@aol.com...
***************************
</quote>
KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!!
*****************
<quote>
Janet Drew
Reply to jdrew...@aol.com...
</quote>
In may 2008 Jan Drew of Bloomington, Indiana, used the email address
That is exactly the very same as Jan Drew #1 used:
That is for Jan Drew's old account at AOL.
jdrew...@aol.com (JDrew63929)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
6. The second marriage of Janet Mae Stidd
=========================================
Jan Drew posts as "Jan Drew", but is that really her name? How about Janet or
Janice?
Remember of of the search engine hits above?
<quote>
My daughter Jacque Nelson...
</quote>
Search engines love that... ;O)
And they dig out precious little details ... like this:
http://www.wyandotteenterprises.com/Genealogy/DescendantsOfAndrewRichardson.htm
<quote>
318 3 6732 Benjamin David Stidd (DOB: 05/18/1916) [DOD: 02/06/2001]{ M } Father:
--- | 5461 Charles Thomas Stidd (DOB: 12/21/1881) [DOD: 00/00/1957] Mother: 311
| 5460 Lorene Sluss (DOB: 03/16/1885) [DOD: 00/00/1939] Spouse/SO: --- | 16325
Alma Mae Selzer (DOB: 10/22/1916)
SO's father: --- | 16336 Clarence E. Selzer (DOB: abt. 00/00/1890) [DOD:
12/21/1979]
SO's mother: --- | 16337 Erslie Woelflin
Children
319 | 16326 Dr. Benton Maurice Stidd (DOB: 06/30/1936)
324 | 16328 Janet Mae Stidd (DOB: 03/16/1939)
**********************************************
327 | 16335 Dr. Raymond Edward Stidd (DOB: 01/31/1938)
Born: Monroe Cty., IN
Documentation (birth): + Index to Monroe County, Indiana Birth Records 1882-1920
(re: Book H-8, p 297). Hays shows the year as 1914.
Died: Ellettsville, Richland Twp., Monroe Cty., IN
Buried: Valhalla Memory Gardens, Bloomington, Bloomington Twp., Monroe Cty., IN
Obituary: Benjamin David Stidd, 84
May 18, 1916 - Feb. 6, 2001
ELLETTSVIlLE - Benjamin David Stidd, age 84, of Ellettsville, died Tuesday at
his residence.
He was born May 18, 1916, in Monroe County, the son of Charles and Lorena
(Sluss) Stidd. He was a 1934 graduate of Bloomington High School, and was a
retired contractor and well-known farmer residing in the Bean Blossom bottom
area of Monroe County most of his life. He was active in the Stinesville Parent
Teachers Association and was its president from 1954 to 1956. During World War
II, he was involved in the construction of Camp Atterbury in Columbus, the
Allison Plant in Indianapolis, as well as a similar facility in Evansville, and
finally finished his service at the Crane Naval Station in construction of
military facilities. He was a member of the Seventh Day Adventist Church and
served in several
capacities as deacon and elder. He was married to Alma Mae Selzer of Bloomington
in 1934, and she remains. Other survivors include three children, Dr. Benton M.
Stidd of Liberty Hollow Road, a retired professor from Western Illinois
University, Dr. Raymond E. Stidd of Nashville, a retired Columbus podiatrist,
and a daughter, Janet Drew of Bloomington, retired owner of Happy Day Care
**************************************************************************
Center;
*******
three sisters, Martha Collins and Velma Hall of Bloomington and Jenny Name of
Ellettsville; 11 grandchildren and 17 great-grandchildren. He was preceded in
death by three brothers, Farwell Stidd, Leon Stidd and Lester Stidd, and two
sisters, Louise Richardson and Freda Bain.
Funeral service will be 1 p.m. Friday at Day Mortuary Chapel. Burial will be at
Valhalla Memory Gardens Mausoleum. Friends may call at Day Mortuary from 5-8
p.m. on Thursday. Friends who wish may make memorial
contributions to the scholarship fund of the Stinesville Alumni
Association.
Addresses: Ellettsville, RichlandTwp., Monroe Cty., IN
Military Service: During World War II, he was involved in the construction of
Camp Atterbury in Columbus, the Allison Plant in Indianapolis, as well as a
similar facility in Evansville, and finally finished his service at the Crane
Naval Station in construction of military facilities.
Employment/Professions: Farmer
Education: Bloomington High School (Bloomington, Monroe Cty., IN) *High School*
1934
Religion: Seventh-day Adventists
********************************
Documents:Obituary
Herald-Times (Bloomington, IN), 2/7/2001
Notes: From obituary.
THD 22124
</quote>
and this:
http://www.wyandotteenterprises.com/Genealogy/DescendantsOfAndrewRichardson.htm
<quote>
324 4 16328 Janet Mae Stidd (DOB: 03/16/1939) { F }
***************************************************
Father: 318 | 6732 Benjamin David Stidd (DOB: 05/18/1916) [DOD: 02/06/2001]
Mother: --- | 16325 Alma Mae Selzer (DOB: 10/22/1916)
Spouse/SO: --- | 16329 Jack Leroy Nelson (DOB: 07/07/1936)
**********************************************************
SO's father: --- | 16330 Don Nelson
SO's mother: --- | 16331 Anna Bell Jones
Spouse/SO: --- | 16332 James William Drew (DOB: 03/29/1935)
***********************************************************
SO's father: --- | 16333 James F. Drew
SO's mother: --- | 16334 Grace Small
Children
325 | 16767 Jeffery Lynn Nelson (DOB: 11/17/1958)
326 | 16768 Jacque Ann Nelson (DOB: 10/22/1960)
************************************************
Addresses: Bloomington, Monroe Cty., IN As of: 02/07/2001
Notes: From the Stidd/Sluss Family record and her father's obituary. +From Tommy
Hays' notes.
THD 114382
</quote>
All the pieces fit together.
First, marriage with
<quote>
Spouse/SO: --- | 16329 Jack Leroy Nelson (DOB: 07/07/1936)
</quote>
which makes the children have the family name Nelson.
The second marriage with
<quote>
Spouse/SO: --- | 16332 James William Drew (DOB: 03/29/1935)
***********************************************************
</quote>
makes Janet Mae Nelson, nee Stidd, Janet Drew of Bloomington, retired owner of
Happy Day Care Center.
The details of that:
http://www.slicesoftime.net/ourfamily/p97.html
<quote>
James William "Bill" Drew
**************************
M, #I4836, Born: [private]
Father:: James Franklin Drew, Born: 19 January 1916
Mother:: Grace Lorraine Small, Born: 29 January 1917, Died: 19 January 1995
Birth: 28 March 1935 Washington, Daviess County, Indiana
Family:
Marriage: 1 : Peggy Ann Ramage Married: 24 March 1954, Born: [private]
Mary Beth Drew, Born: 23 May 1954, Died: 24 May 1954
William Franklin Drew, Born: 21 August 1957, Died: 30 April 1958
+ Cheryl Ann Drew, Born: [private]
James David Drew, Born: [private]
Susan Elaine "Susie" Drew, Born: [private]
Marriage: 2 : Janet Mae Stidd Married: 25 November 1970, Born: [private]
*******************************************************
Last Updated: 05 March 2008
</quote>
http://www.slicesoftime.net/ourfamily/p97.html#I4846
<quote>
Janet Mae Stidd
***************
F, #I4846, Born: [private]
Father:: ?
Mother:: ?
Birth: 16 March 1938
Family:
Marriage: 1 : James William "Bill" Drew Married: 25 November 1970, Born:
******************************************************************
[private]
Last Updated: 14 May 2001
</quote>
One more detail:
http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&searchform=name
<quote>
Janet M Drew
************
View Details
70 Bloomington, IN (3)
************************************
Spencer, IN (1)
Lutz, FL (1) James Drew
J B Drew
Jan Drew
Bill J Drew
</quote>
"70" is her age, which matches with the other parts in the mosaic.
You remember the memorial?:
http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/comments/cmt.php?sto_uri=L3N0b3JpZXMvMjAwOC8wNi8yNS9uZXdzLnFwLTkxNDQwMjYuc3Rv&start=24
<quote>
Janet Drew
Thursday, June 26, 2008: 6:23 pm
More from 'Janet Drew' God Bless Leon. He is no longer in pain.
My daughter Jacque Nelson brought Hinkles from him.
*************************
I got to know him. He hadn't felt well for some time. Larrry (his son) and wife
Joan took him to their
home in Florida. So happy he was with them when he passed away.
He will never be forgotten by any here in Bloomington who knew and loved him.
*****************************************************
Rest in peace, Leon.
</quote>
Well, there is the counterpart:
http://www.wyandotteenterprises.com/Genealogy/DescendantsOfAndrewRichardson.htm#16768
<quote>
326 5 16768 Jacque Ann Nelson (DOB: 10/22/1960) { F }
***********************************************
Father: --- | 16329 Jack Leroy Nelson (DOB: 07/07/1936)
*******************************************************
Mother: 324 | 16328 Janet Mae Stidd (DOB: 03/16/1939)
*****************************************************
</quote>
Through all the years since the beginning of the logs of
jdrew...@aol.com (JDrew63929)
Jan Drew pestered the net:
jdrew...@aol.com (JDrew63929)
<quote>�
Posting-Aktivit�t
Jan. Feb. Mrz. Apr. Mai Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Okt. Nov. Dez.
1999 - - 191 99 54 223 289 260 203 359 297 192
2000 109 276 414 249 461 628 384 284 191 60 416 626
2001 534 152 572 297 677 430 715 621 281 278 392 599
2002 788 481 343 390 508 718 666 643 655 874 561 954
2003 621 866 932 646 629 746 539 593 595 500 521 569
2004 459 692 958 716 749 524 694 1045 784 1007 1151 977
2005 480 1143 206 - - - - 5� - - - 2�
2006 �3� �7� 10 157 �6� 13 21 �3� 21 43 �5� 24
2007 74 37 - �5� - 5� �2 � - �1� - - -
2008 �9� - - - 21 - - - - - - -
</quote>
This is for "Jan Drew" <jdre...@sbcglobal.net>
http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=5J_FIxcAAADGQdj7vwDkkkzclBLHYN6whUEdIBtH1-9oWMCTqaiMrA
<quote>
Posting-Aktivit�t
Jan. Feb. Mrz. Apr. Mai Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Okt. Nov. Dez.
- .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... ....
2006 - 157 2293 1921 1837 2092 2273 1865 1797 2453 1600 1042
2007 475 357 406 523 561 490 370 287 326 435 798 552
2008 942 1346 892 1006 579 1076 742 877 451 555 383 424
2009 909 691 585 345 861 835 160
</quote>
Jan Drew gives medical advice, which, if followed, can lead to the death of your
children and of yourself.
Jan Drew lies, Jan Drew forges, Jan Drew seeds hatred, Jan Drew makes MASSIVE
advertising for the naturopathic mafia.
And: Jan Drew abuses the name of god.
TEN YEARS NOW.
And Jan Drew, despite all kind or tough pleas NOT to stalk people, continious
with here crimionakl behavior.
I think that TEN YEARS really is enough time that has been given to her top
stop. And now, there definitely is an end.
Janet Mae Stidd, married to Mr. Drew on 25th, november, 1970, living in
Bloomington, Indiana, do cease and desist your crimes!
In the matter of Jan Drew abusing the name of god another detail shows up: the
Seventh Day Adventist Church
301 E Matlock Rd
Bloomington, IN
(812) 332-5025
In its gone web-site the have some strong words concerning their being so very
special:
http://web.archive.org/web/20031223034424/bloomingtonsda.org/handbook.htm
<quote>
Home | Up | Feedback | Contents | Search
ACA Handbook Excerpts
Purpose
Aims & Objectives
Requirements for Admission
PURPOSE
In a state in which public schools offer excellent educational
opportunities at public expense, a private school should have a special reason
for its existence.
Adventist Christian Academy , with the unique standards and
***********************************************************
character of the Seventh-day Adventist Church , differs
*******************************************************
sufficiently from the public school to justify its establishment.
*****************************************************************
Christian principles, as practiced by Seventh-day Adventists, have first place
in determining the policies of Adventist Christian Academy .
The following quotation defines the Seventh-day Adventist concept of Christian
education: “True education means more than the pursuit of a certain course
of study. It means more than a preparation for the life that now is. It has to
do with the whole being and with the whole period of existence possible to man.
It is the harmonious development of the physical, the mental, and the spiritual
powers. It prepares the student for the joy of service in this world, and for
the higher joy of wider service in the world to come.” Education, p. 13.
Seventh-day Adventists sincerely believe that Christ is coming literally to this
earth to claim His own, but before He comes, the gospel is to be taken into all
the world. “With such an army of workers as our youth, rightly trained,
might furnish, how soon the message of a
crucified, risen, and soon-coming Savior might be carried to the whole
world.” Education, p. 271. Adventist Christian Academy begins the
training of its youth in this high responsibility.
Adventist Christian Academy offers grades K through 8 of formal education.
Our school provides a state-approved curriculum and is supervised and
accredited through the Education Department of the Indiana Conference of
Seventh-Day Adventists.
AIMS AND OBJECTIVES
“And Jesus increased in wisdom�”
Skills and Knowledge -- To teach the value and necessity of the mental habits
of application and concentration. To provide the acquisition of common skills
and knowledge essential to scholastic progress. To engender a love of learning
that will be carried throughout their life here in this world and into the world
to come.
“�And Stature�”
Health and Recreation -- To promote the study and practice of the
principles of health and temperance, in the belief that mental and spiritual
vigor are in a great degree dependent upon physical health, strength and
activity. To guide students in making good choices regarding recreation and
leisure time.
“�And in favor with God�”
Relationship to God -- To instill a knowledge of God and love for Him and for
Jesus Christ
who came into the world to be its Redeemer. To establish belief and practice in
the essential relational experience of faith and prayer. To develop respect and
reverence for the Bible as the divine Word of God, including the Ten
Commandments as the rule of guidance for a complete life.
Character -- To present the ideals of true culture and encourage an appreciation
of what is pure, true, noble, right and beautiful. To develop an inward
fortitude against evil and a sense of personal
responsibility in the application of spiritual, social, moral and physical laws
that should govern individual conduct.
“�And with man.” Luke 2:52
Home and Family -- To awaken an appreciation of home, where love is the
motivating power in the life of every member of the family.
Citizenship -- To inspire love of country, loyalty to country, and respect for
recognized authority.
Service -- To establish in the minds and hearts of the students the Christian
motive of service and concern for others as opposed to the incentive of selfish
rivalry. To emphasize the value and dignity of labor in the development of
character and in carrying out the responsibilities of life.
REQUIREMENTS FOR ADMISSION
Adventist Christian Academy admits students of any race, color, or ethnic
origin, to all the rights, privileges, programs, and activities generally
accorded or made available to students. In administration of its
educational policies it does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, or
ethnic origin.
Adventist Christian Academy is operated especially for the youth of the
Seventh-day Adventist faith. It is a privilege, not a right to attend A.C.A.
However, as space permits, a student who is not a member of the Seventh-day
Adventist church may be admitted. It is expected that all students will uphold
the standards of Adventist Christian Academy and will cheerfully endeavor to
live in harmony with the principles of the school. Parents who, after
consultation with the teacher and the principal, find themselves in disagreement
with the practices or policies of the school may be asked to withdraw their
student.
It is recommended that students not be entered in school before they reach the
age of six years. Parents of each Kindergarten student must present the
student’s birth certificate to the school by July 1st.
Students may be required to undergo testing before acceptance or during the
first month of the school year. If satisfactory achievement scores are on file
at A.C.A., testing may be omitted. The school reserves the right, after testing
an applicant and counseling with the parents, to change the grade placement to
one more suitable for the student. The school may not be equipped or
sufficiently staffed to offer continuous remedial help to students with special
needs.
Applicants for admission must submit a standard application blank, properly
filled out, which will be presented to the A.C.A. Board for final approval.
New and returning students should have a G.P.A. of 2.0 (or equivalent) in order
to be considered for admission. Students with a recent scholastic performance
below 2.0 will be subject to the Scholastic Probation Policy. Deviation from
this standard may be done only at the discretion of the school board.
Scholastic Probation will be in effect the first nine weeks following
admittance. It will be required that the student improve their G.P.A. to a
current 2.0 or above within the following nine week period. Continued
monitoring of the student’s G.P.A. will be evaluated every three weeks for
the next nine weeks. Failure to meet this standard may result in dismissal.
Re-admittance during the next or subsequent school years will be evaluated on an
individual basis, subject to the previous
year’s performance. Also, scholastic performance at any time during the
school year, which falls below 2.0 for any nine-week grading period, will result
in a Scholastic Probation as outlined above.
If at any time during the school year the A.C.A. faculty believes a student
needs professional evaluation, and/or testing for learning, behavioral or
attention disorders, it is the parents’ responsibility to arrange for such
examination and make the results available to A.C.A. faculty in a timely manner
(as determined by the principal). If this requirement is not met, the student
*****************************************************************************
may be asked to withdraw from school.
*****************************************************************************
Send mail to webm...@bloomingtonadventist.org with questions or comments about
this web site.
Last modified: December 18, 2003
</quote>
I do not know if Janet Mae Stidd, married Drew, is part of the "Seventh-day
Adventist Church" of Bloomington, Indiana. But it seems that
<quote>
"the unique standards and
*******************************************************
character of the Seventh-day Adventist Church , differs
*******************************************************
sufficiently from the public school to justify its establishment.
*****************************************************************
</quote>
Perhaps the "Seventh-day Adventist Church" of Bloomington, Indiana, could have
some influence on her. Unless she already
<quote>
may be asked to withdraw from school.
</quote>
You do know it: The bible is a book about war. It is full of blood shedding and
cruelty.
These are words by Jan Drew:
<quote>
Wow - Debbee is calling people "Miss Busy Body" - and stating it isn't our
business to know *who" she is, *what" she does for a living, or *where* she
lives. Yet, she sees fit to get into other people's
business, calling their employers, etc. and giving fictious and
defamatory information.
What a piece of work you are Debbee!
</quote>
Jan Drew, THAT "piece of work", has no problem with calling employers, whith
making complaints, etc,...
Janet Mae Stidd, "Jan Drew", attacks other persons' families. She never gives
pardon, she never apologizes, not even for the greatest lie or assault.
She has no mercy, she lets children die - consequence of the false advice she
gives.
To follow her medical claims can lead to the death of your children and of
yourself.
--
Die Medienmafia � Die Regividerm-Verschw�rung ... Hintergr�nde,
Fakten, Abenteurer...
http://www.transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/showtopic.php?threadid=5710
Die Medienmafia � Klingelh�llers Rezeptur einer Salbe gegen
Neurodermitis
http://www.transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/showtopic.php?threadid=5707
Happy Oyster
Well, the net is spoiled by a handfull of plain idiots and criminals, and their
footlickers and accomplices.
The guide on how to survive sci.med.dentistry #1
------------------------------------------------
21.11.2009
Rule #1
Do not fall for the lies of the naturopathic mafia.
***************************************************
There is no "alternative medicine". Either something works, then it is
integrated into scientific medicine, or it does not work, then it is crap and no
medicine.
Question: Who is the naturopathic mafia?
Answer: We do not know who ALL are behind the goings-on in
misc.health.alternative, BUT we know that there are some criminals acting here
(and in other news-groups).
Question: Who is abusing misc.health.alternative - and why?
Answer: The question about WHO is abusing misc.health.alternative is easy to
answer, but the WHY we can only guess.
Reason: As long as these persons do not confess in public why they abuse this
news.group, we only can guess their motives. But some are quite obvious.
Stupidity is the simplest one (sic!).
The following persons are abusing the news-group mish.health.alternative:
1. Janet Mae Stidd, known as Jan Drew of Bloomington, Indiana
****************
There is a FAQ about her, which is irregularly posted.
Jan Drew even cannot count to 2.
Acts as a shill for Hulda Clark, for Mercola, and other charlatans.
To follow the medical claims of Jan Drew can lead to the death of your
children and of yourself.
2. Ralph Paul Autrey, Jr.
He agressivley insults and stalks other participants.
Typical: "Nazi", "Whore", etc...
Acts as a shill for Mercola and other charlatans.
A list of typical quotes of him is irregularly posted.
3. Ilena Rosenthal <B...@mundo.com>
She aggressively insults other users and libels them.
An example:
<quote>
From: Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com>
Newsgroups:
misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
Subject: GORSKI, M.D.: THE WORLDWIDE WANKER OF "WOO"
*******************************************
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:47:06 -0600
Message-ID: <omjp655e01fgqrbuo...@4ax.com>
[...]
Haven't read this piece, but wanted to add that David Gorski (who for
years hid behind "Orac" ... is a very active participant on Wikipedia,
the Healthfraud List, the Snake oil Vigilante Brigade ... while being
a recipient of money from the DOD. He has several pro-vacccination
industry blogs ... and haunted Usenet for years tho prefers arenas
where their is censorship in his favour.
http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/05/david-gorski-md.html
</quote>
A list of typical quotes of Ilena Rosenthal is irregularly posted.
4. ironjustice <teamt...@hotmail.com>
Repeats his nonsensic claims like a record disk with a crack.
5. "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
A list of typical quotes of Andrew B. Chung is irregularly posted.
Andrew B. Chung supports mass murder.
<quote>
From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
Newsgroups:
sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,alt.christnet.christianlife
Subject: Re: Daily Spirit-guided WDJW health tip for 08/10/09
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:21:53 -0700 (PDT)
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Retiring people from existence in this world and taking them up to
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heaven is not murder :-)
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"Leeerooy Jenkins" <j...@j.com> gave a description of Andrew B. Chung in
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Andrew Chung:
Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format lo...@thetruth.com (#
being a number)
Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days
Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals
Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website
Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)
Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.
Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto
food.
Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe
Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.
Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.
Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.
Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".
Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.
Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.
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GreatSageItchy <it...@greaterthanheaven.com> gave a
description of Andrew B. Chung in
Message-ID: <200920090610010037%it...@greaterthanheaven.com>
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Subject: Re: Being perseveringly kind (WDJW) and praying for H.O.'s perishing
soul ...
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 06:10:01 -0700
From: GreatSageItchy <it...@greaterthanheaven.com>
Newsgroups: sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible.prophecy,
alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology
In article
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> Bottom line concerning you:
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Andrew B. Chung is INSANE. He is a Supreme Egoist. He has NO
spirituality or humanity, nothing but EGO.
All EGO all the time. ZERO spirituality. And he never will.
Opposites Attract...
It is quite common for such people to be attracted to that which is
most opposite from them. Jesus and spirituality.
But camels will fly through the eye of a needle and cows will jump over
the moon before even a glint of the Holy Spirit enters the body of a
total EGOIST like Chung. Such people are evil and DANGEROUS.
Stay far away. ��WARNING����WARNING��WARNING��WARNING��
DO NOT FEED SICK ASSHOLE TROLLS.
There is NOTHING anyone can do for Chung. His condition is far beyond
any help. A diamond hard egoist, like Chung, is "always right", and
everyone else is "always wrong" in the delusional world they live in.
Soon enough, such defective people are cleaned from this world, usually
by violence or horible disease. Such people are DANGEROUS.. Stay far
away. ��WARNING����WARNING��WARNING��WARNING��
Everyone familiar with Andrew B. Chung knows he is a sick asshole. Even
his parents. He knows he is a sick asshole. There is NOTHING
"spiritual" or "religious" about him. He has absolutely NO HOPE of real
spirituality.
In fact, he is the opposite of spirituality, ALL EGO, and NOTHING BUT
EGO. Chung has no real friends, and never will. No one wants to be
around a TOTAL ASSHOLE. His only hope is to try to learn how real
humans behave by observation, then pretend to be like them.
He will always be a total asshole, but he will learn to hide it and
fake being like a real human. He will not fool a real human for long,
but will have something that resembles a human life. There is no
other way for him. His condition (total arrogance) is permanent.
Camels will fly through the eye of a needle before he even reach
spiritual kindergarden. his life will go badly, and end ugly.
A total egoist will NEVER admit to any imperfection, but Chung knows
that every word of the above is true.
-GSI
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