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Is dentistry a science or an art form?

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Naiz Ali

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Feb 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/8/00
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Just thinking about entering the field and gathering info on it....so any
information would be appreciated.
Thanks~abstract

Hans Lennros

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Feb 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/8/00
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Hi Naiz,

You wrote:
>Is dentistry a science or an art form?

It depends on the dentist. For some it is a way to make a living.
For some it is an art, and only art, where the dentist is an artist.
For some it is implementing physical science in biology. For
some it is a job. For some it is ... well, you name it.

Probelm with dentistry as an art is that an artist's creation should
be recognized, and easily spotted. And admired.

If the job of a dentist is easily spotted, it is usually because it is
not all that good.

Hans
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Joel M. Eichen

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Feb 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/9/00
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"Naiz Ali " <zebun...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:

>Just thinking about entering the field and gathering info on it....so any
>information would be appreciated.
>Thanks~abstract

Art!

But beware. Jackson pollack wouldn't make it.

David Leader, DMD

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Feb 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/9/00
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Is Dentistry an Art or a Science or both?

I have often thought about this very question. My undergraduate degree
from Emory University is in Art History. My DMD is from Tufts.

Start with the most simple definition of Art I have ever heard: A work
of art is something that the viewer is asked to look at aestheticly.
This is quite an inclusive and forgiving definition. It allows us to
include in one breath a Renaissance painting and a Dadaist wine rack on
a table.

A wine rack? The point is that the plain, ready made wine rack was not
a work of art until Marcel Duchamp mounted it as his contribution to a
show. What was his point? Did he want us to look at the wine rack
differently or Art?

Ok, how is all this like Dentistry? Some of our treatments have obvious
beauty such as a well done Denture or bridge. Sometimes the beauty of
our work is not so obvious such as a well done silver restoration or
periodontal treatment or (I know that the other Dentists will back me
on this one) a really well done, complicated root canal treatment.
When we look at our work and appreciate its beauty, and especially when
we share that beauty with our patients this is evidence of the Art of
Dentistry.

Sure there is plenty of Science involved is Dentistry as there is in
the Fine Arts. We must be cognizant of the materials that we use and
the physiology of the beings that we are treating. Don't forget the
phamacology, engineering and psychology. It is the Art of Dentistry
that excites me and I get very excited when one of my patients can
appreciate what I have done for them or a loved one.

David Leader, DMD

Oxford College of Emory University '79 AA
Emory College of Emory University '81 BA History of Art
Tufts University School of Dental Medicine '85 DMD


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Dr. Chanda Kale

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Feb 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/10/00
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It is both.
Old days, when dentist would do their own lab work, they had to train and
work hard to make good looking teeth. So there is a degree or artwork needed
and that may separate a dentist from another. But now , with quality labs
all over the place, we can hire art and make ourselves look better.
Even in art there is a great deal of science and that separates artists from
one another. Look at all major arts. Years and centuries later their work
persists and in good form. They must knew something about what colors to use
etc.
Even for a neurosurgeon, technique is a science however success may depend
on the level of skill ( you may call it an art for a surgeon) of the doctor
( not to forget, team as well who is helping him/her).


Joel M. Eichen

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Feb 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/10/00
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"Dr. Chanda Kale" <kal...@cyberdontic.com> wrote:

>It is both.
>Old days, when dentist would do their own lab work, they had to train and
>work hard to make good looking teeth. So there is a degree or artwork needed
>and that may separate a dentist from another.

An amalgam bears the signature of the Doc. No two Docs are alike.
Sometimes I blow patients away when I tell them, "Look like you had
many more cavities years back, but then you experienced a remission,
and then got a bunch again."

How so? Two different "signatures." One set was more corroded than the
other set.


>But now , with quality labs
>all over the place, we can hire art and make ourselves look better.

Preparations bear a signature too.

Naiz Ali

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Feb 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/10/00
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Thanks for the responses, i have a good manual dexterity and would rather
this be put to use in a career such as dentistry as oppose to say medicine
where i might not be working with my hands as much (bar surgery).
Thanks again~Naiz Ali

Joel M. Eichen

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Feb 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/12/00
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"Naiz Ali " <zebun...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:

What the heck is bar surgery?


Joel M. Eichen

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Feb 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/12/00
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David Leader, DMD <leaderdm...@juno.com.invalid> wrote:

>Sure there is plenty of Science involved is Dentistry as there is in
>the Fine Arts. We must be cognizant of the materials that we use and
>the physiology of the beings that we are treating. Don't forget the
>phamacology, engineering and psychology. It is the Art of Dentistry
>that excites me and I get very excited when one of my patients can
>appreciate what I have done for them or a loved one.

>David Leader, DMD

Good post David. This raises the question about whether illustration,
as per Norman Rockwell, the three generations of Wyeths etc, fits in
with our view of art.

What about performance art? Which is more powerful? Brancusi's "The
Kiss, or Claus Oldenberg's?"

Familiar with the composer, Phillip Glass? His atonal cacophonic work
has been known to cause members of the audience to rush on stage and
pull him off his piano bench. Art! Its all how it affects people!


Cheers,

Joel

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Its an interesting question.

drmarislans

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In article <oolp4.5027$zE2.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,

It's what the surgeons have to do on the spot when your wife finds
you there with your girlfriend...

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Naiz Ali

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Feb 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/14/00
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its a phrase used here..... ie. excluding.

drmarislans

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Feb 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/15/00
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In article <UzRp4.20$bD6...@news3.cableinet.net>,

"Naiz Ali " <zebun...@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
> its a phrase used here..... ie. excluding.
>
Andy Warhol,DDS called it "Op Art"...he also ran an HMO
mill...remember his famous phrase "...your fifteen minutes of
appointment are up"...
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