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OT - has anyone downloaded SP2 yet?

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carabelli

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Sep 1, 2004, 11:12:13 PM9/1/04
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I'm waiting, assuming that like most MS products, this one isn't ready yet.

Just curious, conflicts, etc., with existing programs?

carabelli


W_B

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Sep 1, 2004, 11:19:55 PM9/1/04
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Never went past 98 SE
Works just fine and I don't need faster and faster hardware.

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Steven Bornfeld

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Sep 1, 2004, 11:22:26 PM9/1/04
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Yes--last night, overnight. Something like 70 MB on my dialup
connection at home. I've had no problems yet, but the firewall seems to
prevent some files from downloading on e-mails that it says may help to
identify me to the sender. Don't know how intrusive this will be, but
if it is I can always switch it off.

Steve

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W_B

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Sep 1, 2004, 11:37:31 PM9/1/04
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On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 23:22:26 -0400, Steven Bornfeld
<dentaltw...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Yes--last night, overnight. Something like 70 MB on my dialup
>connection at home.


70 MB dial-up download ?!?

More MS bloatware if you ask me.
(and of course you didn't)

carabelli

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Sep 1, 2004, 11:44:32 PM9/1/04
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"W_B" <no_...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 03:12:13 GMT, "carabelli"
> <hue...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> >I'm waiting, assuming that like most MS products, this one isn't ready
yet.
> >
> >Just curious, conflicts, etc., with existing programs?
> >
> >carabelli
> >
> Never went past 98 SE
> Works just fine and I don't need faster and faster hardware.

XP at home (broadband), 98SE (dail-up) at work. I seem to have continual
system resource problems at work. I think some is from my practice
software, and the other from MS Word. I try to run the resource meter
occasionally to pinpoint the problem, but work being work, end up crashing
or rebooting. I need to reboot several times a day on my PC. The other two
on the office network seem to function just OK.

When I take the jump to all digital the PCs and OS will have to go.

Thanks for the input.

Dan


carabelli

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Sep 1, 2004, 11:46:42 PM9/1/04
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"Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltw...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Thanks Steve, one of the issues at home is I don't want to redo the wireless
network (actually only internet access) until the weather starts to suck.
Then the time will be there. Keep us updated since you took the plunge.

Dan


W_B

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Sep 2, 2004, 12:01:40 AM9/2/04
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You know that at work it could be your hardware that isn't up
to snuff. I say this because you mentioned 'resource meter'
Is your PC the 'server' or running peer-to-peer ?
How much internet do you do at the office?

98SE ran glitchy on my old hardware. Like when it first
came out.

If you are interested, can walk you through HW upgrade with no danger
of losing a single 'bit' of data.

Vaughn

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Sep 2, 2004, 6:03:11 AM9/2/04
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"Steven Bornfeld" <dentaltw...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> Yes--last night, overnight.

All you people with dialup, just go to the Microsoft site and order the
free CD, I ordered mine last week and it came in the mail yesterday. Haven't
installed it yet...no hurry.

Vaughn


Dr Steve

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Sep 2, 2004, 7:31:35 AM9/2/04
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I have loaded on most of my machines already. Corporate Norton Antivirus
needs a patch (which Norton gives you a password for getting).

On older machines with slow processors, it seems to run slower with SP2.

SP2 has a utility which comes up at first to ensure you have internet
protection and warns you if you don't. It looks for Firewall, anti-viral
and other security features.

Otherwise, it seems invisible. Took a long time to download, even on 4MBS
Cable.

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Troy, Michigan, USA
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Dr Steve

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Sep 2, 2004, 7:33:14 AM9/2/04
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I upgraded from 98 since MS will no longer be supporting it very soon. My
PMS will be supporting 98 for one more year, and then they will be dropping
it as well. Considering that the PC's I had running 98 were 6 years old, I
did not feel bad.

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Troy, Michigan, USA
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Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
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in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
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Dr Steve

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Sep 2, 2004, 7:35:01 AM9/2/04
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XP almost never needs a reboot. Even with heavy scanning, lots of internet
use, running 5-6 programs at once, etc. I probably reboot once a week at my
desk, only if I think of it. Never because it locks up.

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Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
......................

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Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS

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Sep 2, 2004, 9:44:55 AM9/2/04
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I have no network at home. We have 3 computers networked at the
office, all XP home. We do have dsl here, so the download wasn't too bad.
Interestingly, Norton Systemworks found a whole bunch of registry
errors after the download--don't know if it was related, as I hadn't run
a check in a while.
We did have a transient problem at the front desk computer on our
practice management software, but I doubt it's related since its a DOS
(!) program.

Steve

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Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

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Dr Steve

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Sep 2, 2004, 12:46:32 PM9/2/04
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I find that Windows 2000 needs to be rebooted more often than XP Pro. We
are running 2000 on one machine at the insurance desk. If we do LOTS of
flat bed scanning on that machine, (i.e. over 20 images), then we usually
will need to reboot. Running XP Pro at my desk, and I can scan about a
hundred images without rebooting. For whatever reason, 2000 is slowest
system to boot up from an "OFF" condition.

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Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
Troy, Michigan, USA
....................................................

This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
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> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 11:35:01 GMT, "Dr Steve" <nos...@home.net> wrote:
>
> >XP almost never needs a reboot. Even with heavy scanning, lots of
internet
> >use, running 5-6 programs at once, etc. I probably reboot once a week at
my
> >desk, only if I think of it. Never because it locks up.
>
>

> Win 2000 is like that too.
>
> It's my next major OS 'upgrade'.
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> W_B


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> Take out the G'RBAGE

> wubbab...@RBAGEyahoo.com


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Dr Steve

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Sep 2, 2004, 12:52:20 PM9/2/04
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P III with max RAM

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Troy, Michigan, USA
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This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you
in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
your health.
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> On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 16:46:32 GMT, "Dr Steve" <nos...@home.net> wrote:
>
> >I find that Windows 2000 needs to be rebooted more often than XP Pro. We
> >are running 2000 on one machine at the insurance desk. If we do LOTS of
> >flat bed scanning on that machine, (i.e. over 20 images), then we usually
> >will need to reboot. Running XP Pro at my desk, and I can scan about a
> >hundred images without rebooting. For whatever reason, 2000 is slowest
> >system to boot up from an "OFF" condition.
>

> What's the hardware config ?

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Neno

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Sep 3, 2004, 1:10:03 PM9/3/04
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Sure,I have. I had no problems with sp2, but I heard it can cause some
conflicts.


Missy

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Sep 5, 2004, 9:41:13 PM9/5/04
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Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS <bornfe...@dentaltwins.com> wrote in message news:<2pomenF...@uni-berlin.de>...

> We did have a transient problem at the front desk computer on our
> practice management software, but I doubt it's related since its a DOS
> (!) program.

Actually, the programs most likely to have trouble with SP2 are
'legacy' applications, including those running in DOS. This is
because computer security was not much of an issue when they were
being written, and most of the methods programmers use today to secure
their apps were not even conceptually possible then.

I'm in the IT field, and can tell you that sp2 is a bit of a beast.
We tested it before installing it at any of our client sites by
installing it on a system we had configured like theirs. The results
were surprising - it broke things I thought would be fine and vice
versa. I don't have any dental offices as clients so I didn't test
any apps specific to your field, but I can tell you that the most
common problems involved proprietary applications designed for a
specific type of business and especially those based on an Access
database. If you use a proprietary practice management program, I
highly recommend having your tech test it. If you handle your own IT,
test it on one system first (after making a complete backup of both
that system and your shared data files.)

Steven Bornfeld

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Sep 5, 2004, 10:50:40 PM9/5/04
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Well, we do back up all our data files daily (sometimes more), but
this problem was handled easily by a phone call to the vendor.

Thanks,
Steve


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