OH.MY.GOD(DESS).
haggis
see what brought him to my usual NG. Imagine my shock to find this
parallel universe actually seems to revolve *around* him. . . (I dare
not invoke his name, do I? or perhaps it doesn't matter because he's
going to post the same sanctimonious bullshit to everything anyway.) Is
there actual "cardiology" speak here, or is that simply code for, "Let's
fuck with the fruit loop?"
It's strange and disturbing. . . and I suppose I should worry that I
find it so entertaining. Lots more fun than a bunch of old ladies who
argue politics, hyphens, and which cat litter is the best investment.
Is there an open bar here? Free pharmaceuticals? Is one joke really
enough to sustain a whole freakin' NG in perpetuity, or is this just a
monthly theme kind of deal? Do I have to be a cardiologist to get in, or
can I just do one? (Just curious to find out if it's possible to offend
the zealot, mind you. <G>)
Apologies for not lurking to get the lay of the land first and make sure
I'm not asking questions you've answered 203 times already. Such a
raucous group kind of begs diving right in.
*waves hello*
jeanne
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Hi Jeanne,
Reading the following should get you all caught up:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Proof
The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more
special...
... we are simply forgiven:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
May you wisely choose to be forgiven too by publicly declaring with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
flyingrat
heart...@emorycardiology.com says...
> May you wisely choose to be forgiven too by publicly declaring with
> your mouth that
Andrew Chung:
Is a frequent and proven liar (evidence archived forever on Google)
Has lost numerous NNTP accounts with supernews and others, has had many
Google accounts nuked, and his vanity domain heartmdphd.com is now
banned from setting up accounts. He is instead using multiple Google
sock accounts and email addresses in the format love#@thetruth.com (#
being a number)
Is unemployed after being sacked with cause from his one and only job
after just over 80 days
Fled the state of Florida, and now claims to practice in Georgia despite
having no admission priveliges in the State's hospitals
Runs a phony foundation with a total declared income of circa $200, the
ownership and contact details of which are obfuscated on its website
Makes failed prophecies concerning earthquakes with areas and dates,
which don't happen (remember the bible quotes about false prophets)
Performed a public attempt at 'exorcising' a Malaysian sock on usenet,
then denied doing it. He has recently reversed position again and admits
to practicing exorcism by usenet, proving himself a liar in the process.
Promotes a dangerous diet, with a million dollar guarantee that he
demands thirty dollars to access details of. This despite being
unemployed. His soliciting and spamming for donations looks to be
similar to the Nigerian Advance Fee Fraud, where victims pay money
upfront in the hope of coming into riches but find they have merely
bought into a lie. Part of his advice is to pour nail polish remover onto food.
Declares he has a cardiology practice despite posting night and day from
the same IP address (his home presumably) or a coffee shop internet cafe
Makes further false prophecies that we should now be all dying in a bird
flu pandemic. When these fail to happen, he does them all over again and
changes the dates. Nuclear war is another Chung spciality, which
naturally doesn't happen when he says it is going to.
Worships evil hatemonger Fred Phelps and will not denounce the acts of
Westboro's congregation. He even accuses someone with the name Phelps of
being Fred's son and refuses to accept he is completely wrong.
Uses the same patter as Pat Robertson, indicating his religious activity
is confined to watching cable TV. No evidence Chung has ever attended a
church.
Has a tendency to cyberstalk, particularly women. His wife fled some
time ago to another state, an act which Chung tries to pass off as "being
on vacation".
Frequently passes himself off as being qualified in areas such as
endocrinology, despite making incredibly fundamental blunders in his
'advice'. It is no wonder the Florida heart facility terminated him, and
has publicly denounced his version of events. Again archived on Google.
Don't forget the fake fast, where he didn't lose any weight, as well as
the infamous 666 stamping fiasco. His latest vile trick is spamming the
blogs of dying cancer patients and then crowing triumphantly when they
pass away.
Andy is Evil
news:ENmdnXUV7f4wDxbb...@comcast.com:
> I followed your resident loon here to find out WTF his deal was and to
> see what brought him to my usual NG. Imagine my shock to find this
> parallel universe actually seems to revolve *around* him. . .
Imagine Andrew's shock when after therapy he finds out that it doesn't.
> (I dare not invoke his name, do I? or perhaps it doesn't matter because
> he's going to post the same sanctimonious bullshit to everything
> anyway.)
It depends on whether or not you want to be stalked by an unemployed
ex-cardiologist who has nothing better to do than become a documented
Usenet K00K.
> Is there actual "cardiology" speak here, or is that simply code
> for, "Let's fuck with the fruit loop?"
There is cardiology here and diabetes support in alt.support.diabetes,
just set your kill files from stun to mega destroy. Although Andrew nym
shifts from sock to sock faster than a very fast thing, "Andy is Evil"
will act as a marker for stuff to ignore unless you want a laugh.
Anything with "Chung" obviously is a candidate for alt.null, beyond that
this group could do with a Chung FAQ including plonk list,(no, that is not
an invitation for Andrew).
>
> It's strange and disturbing. . . and I suppose I should worry that I
> find it so entertaining. Lots more fun than a bunch of old ladies who
> argue politics, hyphens, and which cat litter is the best investment.
It has a similar morbid fascination as a car crash except this time we're
watching one person's career, personal life and sanity bite the big one.
>
> Is there an open bar here? Free pharmaceuticals? Is one joke really
> enough to sustain a whole freakin' NG in perpetuity, or is this just a
> monthly theme kind of deal? Do I have to be a cardiologist to get in, or
> can I just do one? (Just curious to find out if it's possible to offend
> the zealot, mind you. <G>)
You don't have to be a cardiologist and off-topic religious zealotry is
just an invitation to the guys at alt.flame.jesus.christ. A bar would be
nice, because right now a gin and tonic would go down well.
>
> Apologies for not lurking to get the lay of the land first and make sure
> I'm not asking questions you've answered 203 times already. Such a
> raucous group kind of begs diving right in.
As a friend of mine once said, "A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do no
matter how childish."
>
> *waves hello*
*dances funky chicken*
>
> jeanne
Andy is Evil
percy
Ratty, you forgot to add he's now got a book he's busy spamming across
Usenet.
How about his continuing to try to contact a troll, even after the troll
was outed - 'cause the troll told little andy exactly what he wanted to
hear.
Or, uses spam from others as a launching pad for his own vomit...
Jeanne, this bullshit has been going on for well over 5 years, here and
in alt.support.diabetes, which he continually crossposts to (since he's
selling a diet).
Here's something for your entertainment, Jeanne. Enjoy.
http://www.caballista.org/auk/
Put andy's name into Kookle.
While you're at it, try this: groups...@google.com
Every post he makes with his 'Press' link is trying to sell his
self-published tome of screed.
Vicki
percy
> haggis <hag...@marps.com> wrote in
> news:ENmdnXUV7f4wDxbb...@comcast.com:
>
>> I followed your resident loon here to find out WTF his deal was and to
>> see what brought him to my usual NG. Imagine my shock to find this
>> parallel universe actually seems to revolve *around* him. . .
> Imagine Andrew's shock when after therapy he finds out that it doesn't.
>
>
>> (I dare not invoke his name, do I? or perhaps it doesn't matter because
>> he's going to post the same sanctimonious bullshit to everything
>> anyway.)
> It depends on whether or not you want to be stalked by an unemployed
> ex-cardiologist who has nothing better to do than become a documented
> Usenet K00K.
>
>> Is there actual "cardiology" speak here, or is that simply code
>> for, "Let's fuck with the fruit loop?"
> There is cardiology here and diabetes support in alt.support.diabetes,
> just set your kill files from stun to mega destroy. Although Andrew nym
> shifts from sock to sock faster than a very fast thing, "Andy is Evil"
> will act as a marker for stuff to ignore unless you want a laugh.
> Anything with "Chung" obviously is a candidate for alt.null, beyond that
> this group could do with a Chung FAQ including plonk list,(no, that is not
> an invitation for Andrew).
andy chung FAQ:
http://www.cyclingforums.com/t332930.html
There's also another one that he wrote himself. Not worth the paper it's
written on, kinda like andy's book.
You'll also note that *he himself* refers to his diet as an actual diet,
something he's been trying to deny for several years now.
HTH
JulieW8
Ya know - haggis didn't cross post to the NGs (at least as far as I
can tell) because she knows we don't want to see this. It would be
nice if the rest of you would do likewise.
[Default] On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 05:51:39 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung,
MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> took a break from reality and
said:
~~~~~*****~~~~~*****~~~~~*****
No, it really isn't as complicated as you'd like to make it.
Archie Leach
>Top posting because I don't care...
>
>Ya know - haggis didn't cross post to the NGs (at least as far as I
>can tell) because she knows we don't want to see this. It would be
>nice if the rest of you would do likewise.
What does this have to do with cardiology, JulieW8?
JulieW8
took a break from reality and said:
Damned if I know. How about I stop cross posting to cardiology and you
all stop cross posting to medical transcription?
mailerdaemonATgod.com
> Anything with "Chung" obviously is a candidate for alt.null, beyond that
> this group could do with a Chung FAQ including plonk list,(no, that is not
> an invitation for Andrew).
Earthquack has been known to use in excess of *16* different
addresses, so you'd have to filter all posts with his name.
As far as a FAQ is concerned -- here's one from 2004. How little
things change...
Dr. Chung FAQ, Issue 1
---------------------------------
| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
| Version 1.0, January, 2004 |
---------------------------------
Introduction
------------
New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled
and troubled by the controversy surrounding the poster who posts as
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (Dr. Chung) and want to know what the
controversy is about. This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) attempts
to provide an answer.
The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of questions
and answers. For those who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the
following summary is provided.
Summary
-------
Dr. Chung represents himself to be a licensed physician specializing
in cardiology. In this capacity he responds to medical questions on
s.m.c.. If that were all he did, there would probably be no
controversy.
The controversy arises from Dr. Chung's other behaviors on s.m.c., in
particular:
o He uses s.m.c. to not only proselytize his particular
interpretation
of Christianity, but also to disparage and attack anyone with a
different interpretation or different religion.
o He uses s.m.c. to promote his unscientific Two Pound Diet (2PD)
and, in fact, cross posts this information to other groups in order
to
gain more exposure.
o When challenged on the above issues, or one of his medical opinions,
he attacks his challengers as "obsessive anti-Christians", "libelers",
"homosexuals", "people who can't understand English", etc.
o When challenged he performs Internet searches on his challengers in
order to "get the dirt" on them and smear their reputations.
o When challenged, he answers with evasions, non sequiturs,
dissembling, rhetorical questions, quotes from the bible, religious
mantras, thinly veiled death threats, ad hominem arguments, and
other such disreputable, unethical, and unprofessional tactics.
o He is insufferably full of himself, claiming to have "the gift of
Truth Discernment" and to be "Humble" while behaving anything but
humbly.
o He uses a foil who posts under variations of the name "Mu" to avoid
killfiles. Mu's job is to troll other newsgroups and, when he gets
a
reaction, to cross post the reaction to s.m.c. so that Dr. Chung
can
disingenuously claim to be "only responding" to a cross post.
Whereas Dr. Chung has to be somewhat careful what he says and so
attacks primarily through insinuation and innuendo, Mu's tactics are
blunt and direct like those of a playground bully.
The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's egregious behavior
on s.m.c.. If anything, it understates it. Everything can be
verified
in the Google archives.
The issue then arises: so what? As long as Dr. Chung provides free
medical advice on s.m.c., who cares what else he does?
Many people provide free medical advice on the internet. How does one
know whether it is good advice or bad advice? If the person giving
the advice is, or represents himself to be, a doctor shouldn't that be
enough? Unfortunately, no.
Medical education alone is not enough to guarantee good advice.
Knowledge must be tempered with judgment, impartiality, integrity,
ethics, and professionalism. If someone consistently demonstrates by
their behavior that they lack these qualities, how much credence
should be given to their medical advice?
People arrive in this group looking for help. For their own
protection, they deserve to know the quality of the person purporting
to dispense that help and not be lulled into a false sense of
security
simply because someone displays an MD after their name. It is the
intention of this FAQ to provide people with enough information to
allow them to make an informed decision.
List of Questions Answered
--------------------------
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
3. Aren't Religious Discussions Covered by the Charter?
4. So Dr. Chung is Religious... What's the Problem With That?
5. But it's Just a Little "Tag Line" in His Signature.
6. But I'm a Christian Too!
7. Well, Why Not Just Ignore His Religious Rants?
8. But Isn't It Wonderful That Dr. Chung Offers This Free
Medical Advice Out of the Goodness of His Heart?
9. How Does a Practicing Physician Find so Much Time to Spend on
Usenet?
10. Won't Challenging Dr. Chung Drive People Away?
11. Doesn't the "Fault" for all Those Posts Lay With Those Who
Challenge Dr. Chung?
12. Why Do I see So Many "Ad Hominem" Attacks?
13. I'm Sick of Seeing All This!
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
15. Is Discussion of the Two Pound Diet "On Topic"?
16. Who is Mu?
17. What is Mu's Role?
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
--------------------------------------
The poster who posts as Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD claims to be a
licensed physician, practicing internal medicine in Atlanta, Georgia,
USA and specializing in cardiology. His signature contains a link to
a website which is consistent with his posts.
It should be noted that anyone can claim to be anyone on Usenet and so
caution is always advised. Indeed there are those who claim that the
poster in question is not Dr. Andrew B. Chung, or is not the Dr.
Andrew B. Chung listed in the Atlanta telephone directory, and/or has
lost his license and/or hospital privileges for misconduct. This FAQ
does not attempt to address those claims one way or the other. The
reader with an interest in these matters can easily find the relevant
discussions archived in Google Groups.
This FAQ deals with the poster who posts as Dr. Chung and restricts
itself to issues demonstrated by those posts. No position is taken
on
his "true" identity.
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
----------------------------------
The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for
communication between health care providers, scientists and other
individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field. Such
communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange
information and knowledge, and offer problems to solutions.
The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are
health care providers, trainees, researchers, students or recipients
with interest in the field of cardiovascular problems."
(ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/sci/
sci.med.cardiology)
3. Aren't Religious Discussions Covered by the Charter?
--------------------------------------------------------
What do you think?
4. So Dr. Chung is Religious... What's the Problem With That?
--------------------------------------------------------------
There is no problem with that. Most of the people who participate in
s.m.c. are probably religious. However no one but Dr. Chung feels
compelled to characterize themselves as the "Humble Servant of God" in
their signatures, continually thank God for the opportunity to
"witness", question others about their religious beliefs, claim the
"Gift of Truth Discernment", etc.
When one person insists on introducing his personal religious
interpretations into the discussions, it naturally generates
responses
from others who feel just as strongly that their viewpoints are
correct. The resulting debate easily swirls out of control,
especially given Dr. Chung's intolerant and dismissive attitude
towards beliefs which differ from his. The situation is further
exacerbated by Mu's rabble raising from the sidelines.
There are over 160 Usenet groups dedicated to the discussion of
religion. Dr. Chung should take his beliefs to one of these and
stick
to cardiology in s.m.c. It is a simple matter of respect for others.
5. But it's Just a Little "Tag Line" in His Signature.
-------------------------------------------------------
No, it is not. He has even gone so far as to "investigate" someone
asking for advice about stents and accuse her of being anti-
Christian.
6. But I'm a Christian Too!
---------------------------
Lots of people are Christians. There is a time and a place for
everything. s.m.c. isn't the place to "witness" or recruit. In
addition, lots of other people are Jews, Moslems, Buddhists,
Taoists, Hindus, etc. Would s.m.c. be better or worse if they
all emulated Dr. Chung in their proselytizing and recruiting?
Furthermore, if you are a Christian, you should be appalled by Dr.
Chung's pharisaical, cynical, and manipulative use of Christianity.
He is truly a "whitened sepulcher", loudly proclaiming his adherence
to Christian values while overtly lying, carrying on smear campaigns
against others, making false accusations, dissembling, and marketing
his web site under the guise of altruism. He is "bearing false
witness" and true Christians should be concerned.
As an example, when John Ritter recently died unexpectedly, Dr. Chung
rushed to use this unfortunate event to market his web site. He showed
a total lack of Christian compassion for Mr. Ritter and his family,
even when challenged to do so.
As another example, he recently choreographed a smear campaign against
a poster who had criticized him. Dr. Chung found a homosexual author
with the same first name and then insinuated that the poster and
anyone
who agreed with him were engaged in a homosexual relationship. Ask
yourself if this the brand of Christianity you identify with.
7. Well, Why Not Just Ignore His Religious Rants?
--------------------------------------------------
Why should one individual be given carte blanche to violate the
rights
of everyone else? Usenet is a community. It is up to the community
to sanction its members. There is nothing "ad hominem" about
challenging inappropriate and antisocial behavior.
8. But Isn't It Wonderful That Dr. Chung Offers This Free
Medical Advice Out of the Goodness of His Heart?
----------------------------------------------------------
First, it is only of value if it is good advice. Medical education
alone is not enough to guarantee good advice. Knowledge must be
tempered with judgment, impartiality, integrity, ethics, and
professionalism. If someone consistently demonstrates by their
behavior that they lack these qualities, how much credence should be
given to their medical advice?
Secondly, despite his protestations to the contrary, Dr. Chung is not
simply motivated by altruism. Every post of Dr. Chung's contains a
link to a website with the following quote:
"If you are looking for a cardiologist and reside in Georgia,
please consider me your best option for a personal heart advocate.
Check out my credentials and my background. Additional information
is available in the protected sections of this web site. Email me at
cardiolog...@heartmdphd.com to me of your interest and I may send you
a temporary username and password to allow a preview. The more
information you email, the more likely my decision to send you a
temporary username and password. If you like what you see and learn
from this website and wish to confer with me about your heart, you or
your doctor should email me privately or call my voicemail at
404-699-2780 to schedule an appointment to see me at my *real*
office."
(http://www.heartmdphd.com/office.asp)
Thirdly, Dr. Chung has repeatedly stated that one of his key
motivations for participating is s.m.c. is to "witness" and win
converts to his religious beliefs.
9. How Does a Practicing Physician Find so Much Time to Spend on
Usenet?
------------------------------------------------------------------
An interesting question.
10. Won't Challenging Dr. Chung Drive People Away?
--------------------------------------------------
Perhaps. But not challenging him will drive others away.
s.m.c. is historically a "low traffic" group. Therefore, when Dr.
Chung misbehaves, he generates an apparently large response. This is
compounded by Dr. Chung's need to "get in the last word" and Mu's
provocations. In spite of this, if someone has a question it will
usually be answered.
Dr. Chung is not the only participant who offers advice in s.m.c. He
is not even the only doctor who participates in s.m.c. However, the
controversy he generates and sustains often makes it appear that he is
the "only game in town".
Finally, Dr. Chung himself drives others away including other
physicians who leave in disgust after being verbally assaulted by
him,
and other knowledgeable posters who point out where Dr. Chung's
medical opinion might be in error or at least not the only one
generally held.
Anyone disagreeing with Dr. Chung on any subject can expect a series
of increasingly vitriolic attacks, including threats of libel suits.
11. Doesn't the "Fault" for all Those Posts Lay With Those Who
Challenge Dr. Chung?
--------------------------------------------------------------
An interesting perspective: blame the victim. No other poster
(with the exception of Mu, of course) introduces religion or
the Two Pound Diet. How can it be acceptable for Dr. Chung
to introduce these topics, but not acceptable for others to
respond?
In any thread, someone must, of necessity "get the last word".
Dr. Chung has amply demonstrated that he will not be outdone
in this respect.
12. Why Do I see So Many "Ad Hominem" Attacks?
----------------------------------------------
You are probably referring to an "Ad Hominem" _argument_, which
attempts to disprove an adversary's fact by personal attack on
the adversary. An example would be "You are opposed to the
Two Pound Diet because you are anti-Christian".
When someone misbehaves, for example lies or distorts what
someone else is saying, it is not an "ad hominem attack" to
call them on it. It is a legitimate social sanction.
There are also, unfortunately too often, simple personal
attacks and insults on both sides. While we can all wish
it weren't so, it is simply human nature when an argument
becomes heated or the other person is obviously not arguing
in good faith. If you are distressed by this, see the next
question.
13. I'm Sick of Seeing All This!
--------------------------------
There is no reason why you have to see it. Just as you can
change the TV channel if you don't like a show, you can killfile
a poster or thread you don't want to see. See the manual
that came with your Usenet reader for directions on how to do it.
Before you do this, however, you may wish to consider if a truer
picture of the world is not gained by seeing all that goes on -
both the good and the bad.
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
-------------------------------
The Two pound Diet is a diet which Dr. Chung "invented". It's only
rule is to restrict yourself to two pounds of food per day. That's
it.
Doesn't matter if you are a 16 year old girl or an 80 year old man; a
5' 2" woman or a 7' man; a weight lifter or a mattress tester. Two
pounds. That's it. No more, less if you want. One size fits all.
Oh, and the food? Whatever you want: two pounds of lettuce, two
pounds of ice cream, two pounds of celery, two pounds of bacon, two
pounds of chocolate, two pounds of peanuts... doesn't matter. Mix and
match. Just keep it under two pounds.
Dr. Chung's claim is that this magical weight of food, this universal
gustatory constant will cause everyone to arrive at and maintain
their
ideal weight. His scientific basis for this claim: none. The proof
he offers: none. Studies supporting this claim: none. Nutritional
explanation: none. Metabolic explanation: none.
And this from a doctor who expects people to take him seriously on
other issues.
15. Is Discussion of the Two Pound Diet "On Topic"?
---------------------------------------------------
Dr. Chung says it is because being overweight is a risk factor for
heart problems and therefore discussion of the Two Pound Diet is On
Topic. However criticism of the Two Pound Diet is Off Topic as is
discussion of any other diet.
As with religion, Dr. Chung takes every opportunity to introduce the
Two Pound Diet (2PD) into any other thread. In addition Mu trolls
other newsgroups, particularly the diet groups looking for
opportunities to introduce the 2PD in these groups and then cross post
the resulting discussion back to s.m.c so that Dr. Chung can
disingenuously claim to be "only responding" to a cross post.
Since Dr. Chung and Mu have been laughed off of these other groups and
have been asked repeatedly not to bring up the 2PD in them,
participants of these groups are understandably angered when it
happens yet again=8A and, because of Mu's cross-posting, all their
anger spills back into s.m.c.
Another reason for ongoing 2PD discussions is Dr. Chung's habit of
researching anyone who criticizes the 2PD and then cross-posting his
responses back to other groups which the critic has been found to
frequent. He disingenuously claims that he does this as a
"convenience" to the critic, but his true reasons are transparent.
Once again, the cross-post generates a firestorm in s.m.c.
The bottom line is that if the Two Pound Diet is "On Topic" for
anyone, it is "On Topic" for everyone... including it's critics. If it
is "Off Topic", it should not be continually re-introduced by Dr.
Chung.
16. Who is Mu?
--------------
Mu is a longtime Usenet Troll who has even merited his own FAQ. He
postures as some kind of personal physical trainer, but who really
knows? He has allied himself with Dr. Chung and serves as the "Bad
Cop" in the Chung-Mu "Good Cop - Bad Cop" routine. He specializes in
the short, nasty one-liner and, because, unlike Dr. Chung, he has no
reputation to protect, he can afford to be much more direct and
offensive.
Mu parrots an even meaner-spirited version of Dr. Chung's
"Christianity" and does not hesitate to employ anti-Semitism and
homophobia in his attacks.
Naturally, most people would have long ago killfiled Mu, so he changes
his handle on an almost daily basis.
17. What is Mu's Role?
----------------------
Mu's role is to troll other newsgroups and, when he gets a reaction,
to cross post the reaction to s.m.c. so that Dr. Chung can
disingenuously claim to be "only responding" to a cross post.
Mu is also responsible for pitching softballs to Dr. Chung so he can
hit them out of the park, and for re-introducing religion and the Two
Pound Diet should the discussion flag.
Finally, Mu's role is to tirelessly wear down unsuspecting Dr. Chung
critics, deflecting the blows that would otherwise be aimed at Dr.
Chung. He is Dr. Chung's Internet equivalent of the "rope-a-dope".
Insults roll off him like water off a duck as do attempts to reason
with him or even have a civil discussion.
Most people have learned to ignore him and his comment is usually the
last one in any thread sub-tree where it appears.
Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under
advisement.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> satan via a sockpuppet (demon) wrote in his usual lying fashion:
> > haggis <hag...@marps.com> wrote in
> > news:ENmdnXUV7f4wDxbb...@comcast.com:
> >
> >> I followed your resident loon here to find out WTF his deal was and to
> >> see what brought him to my usual NG. Imagine my shock to find this
> >> parallel universe actually seems to revolve *around* him. . .
> > Imagine Andrew's shock when after therapy he finds out that it doesn't.
In the Holy Spirit, I know that LORD Almighty GOD is at the center of
everything.
> >> (I dare not invoke his name, do I? or perhaps it doesn't matter because
> >> he's going to post the same sanctimonious bullshit to everything
> >> anyway.)
> > It depends on whether or not you want to be stalked by an unemployed
> > ex-cardiologist who has nothing better to do than become a documented
> > Usenet K00K.
> >
> >> Is there actual "cardiology" speak here, or is that simply code
> >> for, "Let's fuck with the fruit loop?"
> > There is cardiology here and diabetes support in alt.support.diabetes,
> > just set your kill files from stun to mega destroy. Although Andrew nym
> > shifts from sock to sock faster than a very fast thing, "Andy is Evil"
> > will act as a marker for stuff to ignore unless you want a laugh.
> > Anything with "Chung" obviously is a candidate for alt.null, beyond that
> > this group could do with a Chung FAQ including plonk list,(no, that is not
> > an invitation for Andrew).
> snip
>
> andy chung FAQ:
>
> http://www.cyclingforums.com/t332930.html
The Official SMC FAQ List:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth/FAQ
> There's also another one that he wrote himself. Not worth the paper it's
> written on, kinda like andy's book.
Your rage is palpable.
May the book, Be Hungry, become a best seller in your neighborhood so
that your friends and family ultimately give you copies as gifts so
that you will be blessed beyond measure:
Here's a link to purchasing it to make this easier for your friends
and family...
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-45641-3
... and for others who simply might be curious about this controversy.
> You'll also note that *he himself* refers to his diet as an actual diet,
> something he's been trying to deny for several years now.
Suggested reading:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
Andy is Evil
news:1183708665.8...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
Sock Notice: heartdoc14 in use. "Socks of Satan"tm 9,11,12,13,15, and
"andrew" on standby, 10 resting suffering from irony overload.
It is extraordinary how Andrew's personal unholy ghost will drive him to
grab at any straw in order to pridefully publicise himself. He LIES when
he says the FAQ below is "Official" because Andrew is not a member of the
people who founded the SMC charter. This LIE has been recorded now for as
long as Google shall exist, and FOREVER by GOD.
> The Official SMC FAQ List:
> http://HeawtMDPhD.com/TheTruth/FAQ
SCAM ALERT
SPAM SITE
SPAM
SPAM
SPAM
>
>> There's also another one that he wrote himself. Not worth the paper
>> it's written on, kinda like andy's book.
Andrew's demon-driven self-publicising obsession causes him to appear as a
strange little cartoon character in these newsgroups, the text below is
reworked to reflect this:
>
> Your wage is pawpabwe.
>
> May the book, Be Hungwy, become a best sewwer in your neighbowhood so
> that youw fwiends and famiwy wiww have something to wight their yuwe
> wogs with:
>
> Here's a wink to puwchasing it to make this easiew for your fwiends
> and famiwy...
>
> http://www.iunivewse.com/bookstore/book_detaiw.asp?isbn=0-666-45641-3
>
> ... and for othews who simpwy might be cuwious about this contwovewsy.
Another LIE.
There is no controversy, Andrew has placed more than enough evidence on
Usenet to support the assertion that Andrew B. Chung acts as a deranged
religious zealot who delights in spamming newsgroups in order to promote
his ill-conceived "eating approach" scam.
>
>> You'll also note that *he himself* refers to his diet as an actual
>> diet, something he's been trying to deny for several years now.
>
> Suggested weading:
>
> http://HeawtMDPhD.com/AndyWoves/Satan
>
> Be hungwy... be heawthy... be bwessed... be fixated... be bwind...
B.Chung
>
> Pwayewfuwwy in Jesus' awesome wove,
>
> Andwew <><
> --
> Andwew B. Chung, MD/PhD/NJ/WOKA**
> Ex-Cawdiowogist
>
>
Andy is Evil
flyingrat
heart...@emorycardiology.com says...
>
> The Official SMC FAQ List:
Andrew Chung:
haggis
After further observation, I've decided part of his formula to
counteract the Dale Carnegie approach to winning friends and influencing
people is that the freak replies to EVERYTHING--and to keep it
interesting, he crossposts to more and more random NGs. I wonder if he
traded in a serious chemical dependency for a bible like my ex did.
(Oddly enough, I found the stoner to be less of an arsehole. . .)
Degenerate that I am, I'm wondering what would happen if we introduced
him to the UK conspiracy nut who's papered his flat with aluminum foil
and spams everyone with his endless manifesto. Would they feed off each
other, battle to the death, or would it be like the bums hanging out in
front of the Whole Foods Market, having heated arguments with the people
in their heads and oblivious to each other in the here and now?
Yes, he's in my killfile, but I'm afraid it's still fresh enough that
I'm highly entertained by the replies.
<G>
j.
Andy is Evil wrote:
<snipped the hell out of this because I hate scrolling>
> It depends on whether or not you want to be stalked by an unemployed
> ex-cardiologist who has nothing better to do than become a documented
> Usenet K00K.
>> *waves hello*
> *dances funky chicken*
haggis
haggis
How come I can't get that Zappa line out of my head now: Does it matter
that this is what makes a life for you?
<G>
jeanne
(wondering how the hell many incarnations I'm going to have to killfile
before the wingnut really does stop overflowing my inbox)
bob young
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:
> convicted neighbor Vicki B (percy) wrote:
> > satan via a sockpuppet (demon) wrote in his usual lying fashion:
> > > haggis <hag...@marps.com> wrote in
> > > news:ENmdnXUV7f4wDxbb...@comcast.com:
> > >
> > >> I followed your resident loon here to find out WTF his deal was and to
> > >> see what brought him to my usual NG. Imagine my shock to find this
> > >> parallel universe actually seems to revolve *around* him. . .
> > > Imagine Andrew's shock when after therapy he finds out that it doesn't.
>
> In the Holy Spirit, I know that LORD Almighty GOD is at the center of
> everything.
He is the centre of your brain - period
bob young
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