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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 21, 2007, 6:26:39 PM11/21/07
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Having too much fat --> more leptin --> less hunger --> bad.

less leptin --> more hunger --> good.

If a vegetarian diet decreased the leptin in the young Japanese women,
then they were hungrier indicating the dietary change was good for
them.

Be hungrier... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/PressRelease

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

ironjustice wrote:
> Leptin controls hunger and leptin is controlled by plants.
>
> "Only dietary fiber, vegetables, and pulses showed an association with
> serum leptin"
>
> Murakami K, Sasaki S, Takahashi Y, Uenishi K, Yamasaki M, Hayabuchi H,
> Goda T, Oka J, Baba K, Ohki K, Watanabe R, Sugiyama Y
> Nutrient and food intake in relation to serum leptin concentration
> among young Japanese women. [Journal Article]
> Nutrition 2007 Jun; 23(6):461-8.
>
> OBJECTIVE: Little is known about the relation of modifiable dietary
> factors to circulating leptin concentrations, particularly in young
> adults and non-Western populations. We examined cross-sectional
> associations between nutrient and food intake and serum leptin
> concentration in young Japanese women.
> METHODS: Subjects were 424 female Japanese dietetic students 18-22 y
> of age. Intake of macronutrients (protein, total fat; saturated,
> monounsaturated, and polyunsaturated fatty acids; and carbohydrate),
> dietary fiber, and 12 food groups was assessed with a validated, self-
> administered, comprehensive, diet history questionnaire. Fasting blood
> samples were collected, and serum leptin concentrations were measured
> by radioimmunoassay.
> RESULTS: For nutrients, only dietary fiber was a significant
> determinant of serum leptin concentration. Increasing dietary fiber
> intake was associated with lower serum leptin concentration
> independent of potential confounding factors, including body mass
> index (mean serum leptin concentrations in the lowest and highest
> quintiles of dietary fiber intake were 8.6 and 7.5 ng/mL,
> respectively; P for trend = 0.026). Vegetables and pulses were the
> only foods significantly associated with serum leptin concentration,
> with higher intakes independently associated with lower concentrations
> (mean serum leptin concentrations in the lowest and highest quintiles
> of intake were 8.1 and 7.0 ng/mL, P for trend = 0.007, for vegetables
> and 8.8 and 7.6 ng/mL, P for trend = 0.019, for pulses,
> respectively).
> CONCLUSION: Intake of dietary fiber, vegetables, and pulses showed an
> independent inverse association with serum leptin concentration in a
> group of young Japanese women.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
> http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
>
>
> Man Is A Herbivore!
> http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

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Nov 21, 2007, 8:29:15 PM11/21/07
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Our armchair endo opines:

""Having too much fat --> more leptin --> less hunger --> bad.

less leptin --> more hunger --> good."

What is the source of leptin? What is its role in energy metabolism?
What other major hormone is closely related to its function? What is
the other hormones source?

Careful now as you answer, self contridiction alert.

Failure to answer is confession of self contridiction.

God bless.

J666

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Nov 22, 2007, 12:30:00 AM11/22/07
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Should be very easy to study patients who have lost weight with
"hunger is good" with those who lost weight without "hunger is good"
and compare their VATs. That is the way medicine is done now, the way
Dr Chung was trained and for decades before then. If it is not done
that way, then it is not medical. And that is the truth.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 25, 2007, 8:43:57 AM11/25/07
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convicted neighbor JasonDocMD (J666), otolaryngologist, wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9f0715972f85741e?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/28799600d0646104?

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy

J666

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Nov 25, 2007, 12:33:20 PM11/25/07
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Everyone should view your answer as the way you answer medical
questions and the way you function as a "doctor."

Just who is the josh?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 25, 2007, 1:17:22 PM11/25/07
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convicted neighbor JasonDocMD (J666) wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/58b54a18c0982bfb?

>
> Everyone should view your answer as the way you answer medical
> questions and the way you function as a "doctor."

Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

> Just who is the josh?

If Josh has placed his faith in LORD Jesus Christ, he is an infinitely
wiser man than you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more
special...

... we are simply forgiven by GOD:

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/

May we, who are HIS brethren, continue to pray for you and others like
you who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

flyingrat

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Nov 25, 2007, 4:40:23 PM11/25/07
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In article <58a04a30-d269-40f5-9f35-5e716064a6d5
@g30g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, heart...@emorycardiology.com says...

> If Josh has placed his faith in LORD Jesus Christ, he is an infinitely
> wiser man than you:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/chunglies

>
> The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more
> special...
>
> ... we are simply forgiven by GOD:
>
> http://www.interviewwithgod.com/bullshit

>
> May we, who are HIS brethren, continue to pray for you and others like
> you who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/kookits

> Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/verbigeration

Verbigeration
ver·big·er·a·tion
n.
Obsessive repetition of meaningless words and phrases, especially as a symptom of mental illness.

http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?verbigeration

Constant repetition of meaningless words or phrases; seen in
schizophrenia.

Mike Mordant

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Nov 25, 2007, 5:03:59 PM11/25/07
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On Nov 25, 1:17 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

Just how is it that the Holy Spirit communicates these "convictions"
to you?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 25, 2007, 6:45:19 PM11/25/07
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convicted neighbor Mike Mordant wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor JasonDocMD (J666) wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/58b54a18c0982bfb?
> >
> > > Everyone should view your answer as the way you answer medical
> > > questions and the way you function as a "doctor."
> >
> > Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >
> > > Just who is the josh?
> >
> > If Josh has placed his faith in LORD Jesus Christ, he is an infinitely
> > wiser man than you:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
> >
> > The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more
> > special...
> >
> > ... we are simply forgiven by GOD:
> >
> > http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
> >
> > May we, who are HIS brethren, continue to pray for you and others like
> > you who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> Just how is it that the Holy Spirit communicates these "convictions"
> to you?

http://ABChung.LiveJournal.com/34887.html

May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/MikeMordant

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com

Mike Mordant

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Nov 25, 2007, 6:50:56 PM11/25/07
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On Nov 25, 6:45 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

Your Bible commands you to have a ready answer for what you believe.

Who are you to disobey?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 25, 2007, 7:11:26 PM11/25/07
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convicted neighbor Mike Mordant wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Mike Mordant wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor JasonDocMD (J666) wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/58b54a18c0982bfb?
> >
> > > > > Everyone should view your answer as the way you answer medical
> > > > > questions and the way you function as a "doctor."
> >
> > > > Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >
> > > > > Just who is the josh?
> >
> > > > If Josh has placed his faith in LORD Jesus Christ, he is an infinitely
> > > > wiser man than you:
> >
> > > >http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
> >
> > > > The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more
> > > > special...
> >
> > > > ... we are simply forgiven by GOD:
> >
> > > >http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
> >
> > > > May we, who are HIS brethren, continue to pray for you and others like
> > > > you who have been convicted by the Holy Spirit:
> >
> > > >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >
> > > Just how is it that the Holy Spirit communicates these "convictions"
> > > to you?
> >
> > http://ABChung.LiveJournal.com/34887.html
>
> Your Bible commands you to have a ready answer for what you believe.

Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/MikeMordant

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com

Mike Mordant

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Nov 25, 2007, 7:21:41 PM11/25/07
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On Nov 25, 7:11 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

Without reason, your statements are meaningless.

Answer the questions.

And please fo not pray for me. Your Bible says the prayers of a
righteous man availeth much. Your prayers would be worthless sense
you are a proven liar and hypocrite.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 25, 2007, 7:32:49 PM11/25/07
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> Without reason, your statements are meaningless.

Sad to read that you are without reason.

> Answer the questions.

Already have:

http://ABChung.LiveJournal.com/34887.html

> And please fo not pray for me. Your Bible says the prayers of a
> righteous man availeth much.

Indeed, it has.

> Your prayers would be worthless sense
> you are a proven liar and hypocrite.

Your name-calling simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely
right to convict you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/MikeMordant

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com

Mike Mordant

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Nov 25, 2007, 7:48:12 PM11/25/07
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On Nov 25, 7:32 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

That's no answer . You lie again.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 25, 2007, 8:25:17 PM11/25/07
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> That's no answer .

It is for the discerning.

> You lie again.

It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully.

One of us is untruthful.

May we, who are Jesus' brethren, continue to pray for you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/MikeMordant

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com

MU

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Nov 26, 2007, 2:37:37 AM11/26/07
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:21:41 -0800 (PST), Mike Mordant wrote:

> Without reason, your statements are meaningless.

Without meaning, your statements are without reason.

See how that works?

J666

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Nov 27, 2007, 12:12:13 PM11/27/07
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On Nov 26, 1:37 am, MU <m...@moo.com> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:21:41 -0800 (PST), Mike Mordant wrote:
Without reason, your statements are meaningless.

Without meaning, your statements are without reason.

--------


That above statement certainly applies to our convicted neighbor
Andrew Chung.

orang...@googlemail.com

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Nov 27, 2007, 1:20:51 PM11/27/07
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On 25 Nov, 13:43, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com

> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.


"They do not eat much cereal food, but live chiefly on milk and meat,
and spend much time in hunting. Their diet, daily exercise, and the
freedom from restraint they enjoy - for from childhood they do not
know what compulsion or disipline is, and do nothing against
inclination - combine to make them strong and tall as giants."

Caesar, The conquest of gaul

MU

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Nov 29, 2007, 2:44:00 AM11/29/07
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J666.

Wow, these kiddy games are fun. Your turn. Post something inane, useless
and inconsequential.

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