‘We gave up so much’: how Covid changed young people’s lives

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‘We gave up so much’: how Covid changed young people’s lives
Clockwise from top left: Eoin O’Loughlin, Zubaydah Abdi, Jess Paine and
Eva Yacobi Composite: Guardian Design
Young people across the UK reflect on how the pandemic affected them –
and continues to shape their futures

Covid has left a third of young people feeling life is out of control –
study
by Amelia Hill
Mon 3 Oct 2022 01.00 EDT
In the next phase of the Guardian’s Covid Generation series, young
people across the UK reflect on how the Covid pandemic changed their
lives and continues to have an effect on their futures.

Marcel Charowski is 12 and lives in London with his parents and sister.
He is in his first year of secondary school

Marcel Charowski
Marcel Charowski: ‘I feel old before my time’. Photograph: Mark
Pinder/The Guardian
The pandemic definitely changed me. I was a carefree child before it
hit. Now I’m quite scared and negative. I feel old before my time. One
of the worst things about Covid was not being able to visit my
grandparents in Poland. I could see them getting older over Zoom and I
was scared they would die before I could visit them again.

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I also had the last year of primary school taken away from me. I didn’t
have a chance to say goodbye to anyone or have a school leavers’ party.
Then I lost those friends for good over lockdown. We tried to stay in
touch online but we ran out of things to say and drifted away from each
other.

It makes me sad that I won’t have any friends in my future from primary
school. It’s also made me think about how people you think of as “for
ever friends” can just drift away. I think that’s why I’ve found it hard
to make new friends at secondary school.

My dad nearly died thanks to Covid. My mum spent a lot of time at the
hospital with him for seven months and I had to wait at home, worried
every day that she would come home and tell me he’d died. I was
frightened all of that time. It’s probably why I worry a lot about death
now. Death is always waiting for you. I worry that Covid will come back
in a worse variant or we may get another plague. We’ve already had
monkeypox.

Lockdown was very lonely for me. I was pretty much on my own, in front
of a computer, doing home learning – which was incredibly hard because
you can’t ask for help in the same way: you’re told what to do, then you
log off and have to do the work on your own.

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I would say that before Covid, I used to be worry-free but now I don’t
really care about anything. I don’t get excited about anything.

Eva Yacobi is 14 and lives in the south of England. She had just started
secondary school when lockdown began

Before Covid, I wanted to be a singer. Now I realise there’s nothing
stopping me from being an entrepreneur, starting my own business or
being a CEO of a big company.

It was all because of lockdown: I would never have started thinking like
this otherwise. Home learning was so boring – I was so over sitting in
front of my computer, doing endless worksheets and online lessons. I
started making jewellery just for fun and then it occurred to me that I
could start a business, sell what I’d made and give the profits to charity.

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It was so amazing. I’d been quite lonely – I’d got to the stage where I
barely talked to my friends online because we’d run out of stuff to say
to each other – but when I started selling my jewellery I was having
conversations with people from all over who wanted to buy what I’d made.
That really opened my horizons back up. It felt amazing.

It was also really cool to realise that all that stuff that seemed so
complicated really wasn’t: it wasn’t such a big deal to make a website,
advertise across different social media sites. I realised I was much
more capable than I’d thought.

Lockdown was also nice in that I got a lot closer to my family and, in
particular, my younger brother. He and I spent a lot of time together,
making art and talking for hours.

Lockdown wasn’t great though in the way I became totally dependent on
screens though. I once spent three whole days watching Netflix during
lockdown: I was completely obsessed. That feeling hasn’t really gone
away: screens were everything to me for two years and remain a much
bigger part of my life now lockdown has ended than they would have been
if it had never happened. It’s not healthy but it’s how it is. I think
my generation gave up a lot more than other generations over lockdown
because these are such important years for us, where we find change
hard. Our schools are putting a lot of effort into helping us transition
back into real life but I don’t think politicians have really done enough.

Zubaydah Abdi is 19 and lives in Tottenham with her parents – a cab
driver and special needs teacher – and her five siblings. She has just
started studying medicine at King’s College London

Zubaydah Abdi
Zubaydah Abdi: ‘I shut down and spent a lot of time feeling hopeless and
angsty’. Photograph: Christian Sinibaldi/The Guardian
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The years between 16 and 18 are a blur to me: I feel as if I’m a
16-year-old stuck within a 19-year-old’s body without the experiences or
skills to fulfil their responsibilities.

This does make me sad: the years I’ve missed are important ones – you’re
supposed to have all sorts of experiences to form the adult you become.
But my life during those key years had no substance to it: it was just
school and home. I worry how that time lost and time wasted will come
back to haunt me in later life.

The pandemic also had an impact on me emotionally. We had relatives who
died and that, combined with all the other awful things that went on
over those two years, it led to me becoming fairly desensitised. Instead
of opening my gaze out to the wide world and thinking about my place in
it, I focused in on myself. I shut down and spent a lot of time feeling
hopeless and angsty.

When I got my teacher-assessed A-level grades, I didn’t know what to
think. In all honesty, the grades I was given – 4 A*s – were probably
better than I would have got had I done the exams. That’s given me a
strong sense of impostor syndrome for university: I’m not going to feel
that I’m qualified to be where I am and that’s going to be destabilising.

I opted to take a gap year so I could try to make up for all those lost
experiences. I saved money by working in retail, which forced me to be
out and about after so long being locked away. I then volunteered at a
hospital in Tanzania, which helped confirm for me that medicine was what
I wanted to do with my life. I also made friends from around the world
to make up for those I lost during the pandemic.

All this helped resensitise me – it helped me open my gaze back up
again, to burst the bubble I’d been living in and bringing me back to
real life.

It also helped me channel the anger I’d built up over the pandemic. I
realised that I could help people through medicine. I think before
Covid, I would have used my medical degree to do research but now I want
to use it to go out into the world and make it a better place. In that
way, you could say that Covid been a good thing: it has focused my
political and campaigning zeal.

Lily Smith is 19 and comes from Manchester. She is in her second year of
studying musical theatre at Anglia Ruskin University

Lily Smith
Lily Smith: ‘Being given the time to make the decision to jump from
science to the arts essentially saved my life’. Photograph: Sophia
Evans/The Observer
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I feel guilty saying this but the pandemic was, for me, a brilliant
thing: it changed my life and I’ll always be grateful.

I was doing A-levels when Covid hit and intended to study sciences at
university. I was already finding my courses hard but it got much worse
during lockdown: it became impossible to get the support I needed. I
quickly began feeling hopeless and overwhelmed. It was a really bleak
time. My friends had been the only thing that had helped me when I’d
been feeling stressed before Covid and when they were taken away from me
by lockdown, it all crashed down.

I managed to get online counselling in May 2020 but after a while, the
enforced isolation began to have a different effect: I realised that it
was nice to be on my own in this almost womb-like environment where I
didn’t need to be anything for anybody. I had stepped off the conveyor
belt of school, expectation and achievement.

What I realised was that I’d been pushing myself towards this career in
science because that’s what everyone told me I should do but it wasn’t
who I actually was.

I found myself playing the piano more and suddenly I realised that I
could choose to make myself happier – and the way to do that was to do
something in the arts. Then it hit me: I was going to be a stage actor.
My piano teacher recommended an amazing singing teacher who helped me
work on auditions for universities.

I am so happy now. If the pandemic hadn’t happened, I doubt I would have
got the A-levels I needed to do science at university and that would
have been so devastating that I honestly don’t know if I would still be
here today.

Being given the time to make the decision to jump from science to the
arts essentially saved my life. Without the pandemic, there’s no way
that would have been possible.

Eoin O’Loughlin, 20, moved from Dublin to Dundee during the pandemic to
study at the Scottish School for Contemporary Dance

Eoin O’Loughlin
Eoin O’Loughlin: ‘The pandemic stunted me at the exact moment I was
ready to burst out creatively and socially’. Photograph: Murdo
MacLeod/The Guardian
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I think my generation gave up a lot during the pandemic for older people
because it hit at such a key, developmental time for us. We were happy
to do it at the time but problems have come since because the government
hasn’t acknowledged what we sacrificed. Some recognition and some
recompense would help, in terms of support for the issues – around
careers, education, mental health, physical health – that my generation
suffered and still suffers as a direct result of pandemic policies
introduced to protect the older generation.

The sad thing is that we gave so much up because we had a sense of
community. But because there’s been no recognition of what we gave up or
any attempt to recompense us, I think that sense of community has been
burnt out of us. I’m not sure that my generation would be as happy or
willing to sacrifice ourselves for other people a second time. I think
we all feel our goodwill was taken advantage of.

The pandemic was dreadful for me. It stunted me at the exact moment I
was ready to burst out creatively and socially, and start exploring and
making my mark on the world. The pandemic meant that I had to adapt from
being a child to an adult with no transition period – I missed my
secondary school exams and graduation, along with my 18th and 19th
birthdays. I then missed my first year of college in Dundee – and doing
a dance degree at home, in front of a laptop screen is no fun at all.

I feel l’ve lost my younger self in the pandemic. I’ve lost that
youthful exuberance and joyfulness I once had. I feel like an old man:
even though lockdown is over, I just want to stay in now – read a book
and drink some tea.

Because of the pandemic, however, I met the love of my life and am now
happier than I’ve ever been. If you take Jack into account, all the pain
of the pandemic was definitely worth it. But I wish I hadn’t had to go
through that to meet him.

Michael Nesi-Pio, 20, was in his final year of A-levels when Covid hit

Michael Nesi-Pio
Michael Nesi-Pio: ‘It’s only when you experience something bad that you
realise what makes you happy and what’s important’. Photograph: Joel
Goodman/The Guardian
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I had planned to take a year out after A-levels to grow up a bit, travel
and decide what I wanted to do at university and in life. But when Covid
hit, I panicked and grabbed at the first degree course recommended to me
by my teachers, which was chemistry.

I wasn’t able to take my exams and my teacher-assessed grades were
crazily lower than my predictions, so I didn’t get my place at
Manchester. I panicked again and snatched the first alternative course I
could find, which was in Sheffield. I didn’t really want to do that
course and I didn’t want to go to that university but with the world
exploding, I didn’t feel I had any choices.

It was a disaster. In retrospect, I think I became seriously depressed.
I was so lonely and miserable in lockdown in Sheffield. I spent all day
in my room in the dark.

My girlfriend eventually persuaded me to stop pretending everything was
OK and drop out. I left in March 2021 with a £11k debt. I reapplied to
Manchester and got in to study politics and philosophy.

I’m not angry about the time I lost, the debt and the traumatic time I
had though. I think what I went through was good because it’s only when
you experience something bad that you realise what makes you happy and
what’s important.

The past year has added to my character. I’m more resilient, more
determined. I now prioritise my mental health and my own happiness.

My generation is in a difficult position now because older generations
judge us and have expectations of us aligned to our chronological age.
But we lost our formative years and haven’t had the life experiences
that you need to grow up. We’re not given any leeway to reflect that.

I also get angry because I think my generation sacrificed more than
other generations over Covid. I get angry at the experiences we missed.
I get angry that we’ve never been given credit for what we sacrificed
for others.

Kate Nichols, 20, is from Newcastle upon Tyne and is in her final year
at Cardiff University

I got Covid on 21 December 2021 and, 10 months later, have still not
recovered. Last week, I finally got my referral to a chronic fatigue
syndrome clinic, which I’m hoping will help.

Christmas with Covid was really sad. We had to cancel my grandparents
coming round, so they were on their own with no time to arrange their
own alternative Christmas. I stayed in my bedroom: my Christmas dinner
was left outside my door. After I’d finished, I had to wipe my plate,
glass and cutlery with antiseptic wipes before my parents could collect
it. It was lonely and grim.

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I had Covid for a week and felt bad but after it went, I started getting
endless infections: I had tonsillitis seven times, endless recurrent
chest infections, breathing problems, brain fog and was constantly
exhausted. I was taking so many antibiotics that I was quite scared: at
one point, I was taking eight tablets a day and they still weren’t
working, so the doctors had to give me stronger ones.

I still have problems with tiredness, brain fog and breathing – there’s
a crackling in my lungs that’s pretty scary – and if I go out with
friends in the evenings, I’m destroyed for the next few days: my
tonsillitis will come back, probably a chest infection and I’ll have
days of really severe brain fog.

It’s frustrating – so much of student life revolves around the nightlife
– but I can’t risk getting behind in my studies, which I’ve worked hard
to keep up with despite my long Covid.

On the upside, not being able to go out in the evening means I now see
my friends during the day and we talk a lot more. I’d say I’m closer to
my friends as a result of this change of socialising style, and that’s a
positive: I sat in a coffee shop for three hours the other day with a
friend, just talking. I’m also far more health-conscious than I was
before getting long Covid. I always went to the gym but now I’m
super-conscious of what I eat, drink and I make sure I get as much
exercise as I can manage.

I suppose that’s a positive too but in truth, this long Covid is really
hard, frustrating and sad: these are supposed to be my carefree, healthy
years.

Eliza Niblett, from Leicestershire, is 20 and has just started her third
year studying experimental psychology at Oxford University

Eliza Niblett: ‘The stress of feeling I’m constantly on thin ice is
exhausting’.
Eliza Niblett: ‘The stress of feeling I’m constantly on thin ice is
exhausting’. Photograph: Graeme Robertson/The Guardian
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One of the saddest impacts of the pandemic is that I still haven’t had
my first kiss. I’ve never even been on a date. I’m a lesbian and at
school that was really difficult. I thought it would become easier when
I got to university but it didn’t happen because of Covid and now it
seems like a big, scary thing instead of an exciting, natural step.

Even though university is finally back on track after a really difficult
first year, I missed so much because of the pandemic that I don’t feel
ready to be where I am. I spent my second year at uni playing catch-up,
both academically and socially, but I’m still getting used to the idea
of interacting with people: I’ve never gone out and got drunk; I’ve
never been in a nightclub or done a pub crawl. I wanted to do that sort
of thing when I first got to university but now the moment has passed
and it just seems really scary to go out and lose control.

Covid mucked up lots of other things for me that I’m still affected by.
I was given A-level grades based on an algorithm that the government
later admitted disadvantaged state-school students like me. That
algorithm downgraded the grades my teachers had estimated for me, which
meant I lost my place at Oxford.

It was devastating and I decided to get the government to change their
minds. I organised an open letter to the education secretary using
testimonies from people who had also been affected. I spoke on local
radio and TV, and lots of people sent messages of support.

Eventually, the government announced the grading U-turn and Oxford
reinstated my place. But it didn’t undo how traumatising it had all
been: two years on and I still constantly question what it was about me
that made my tutors decide that I was the one they would reject when
others who had been downgraded were still given places. The stress of
feeling I’m constantly on thin ice is exhausting.

Thanks to the pandemic, I barely interacted with anyone for my entire
first year at university. I tried to focus on work and not lament how
rubbish my hard-won Oxford experience was turning out to be but it was
hard to ignore it. There was just this emptiness and nothingness where
there should have been excitement and inspiration.

Ella Thornton, 20, gave up her place at Cambridge University in 2021
after a year. She is now at the University of East Anglia studying education

Ella Thornton, 20, outside her shared Norwich home.
Ella Thornton, 20, outside her shared Norwich home. Photograph: Joshua
Bright/The Guardian
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The pandemic completely transformed my life for the better but it was an
incredibly painful journey. The first thing Covid did was to stop me
from being able to properly finish school. I was heartbroken – I loved
my school. Being torn away felt like a physical pain.

Though I was heartbroken, lockdown was the first time I had had a big
rest for many years. For the first time I wasn’t waking up with a racing
heart, already feeling anxious. I felt like a hamster that had been able
to step off the wheel. Lockdown gave me the space and peace to
re-evaluate what matters to me. It healed me.

I matured a lot over that year. I realised that instead of valuing other
people’s vision of success, I value a slow life, spending time with
friends, not being stressed. I value being able to feel silly and young
and not be worried.

It was incredible, coming to that realisation after giving up so much of
my youth to achieving my ambition to get into Cambridge. I hadn’t done
any partying or anything extracurricular. During that year out, I
realised with great sadness how much I’d given up and that I could never
get those things back.

I still went to Cambridge but I only lasted a year because, thanks to my
time of peacefulness, I quickly realised it was no longer who I was and
I had the courage to step away.

If I hadn’t had that Covid year to decompress, I don’t think I would
have been able to break out of my paradigm. I would have stayed at
Cambridge and become more and more unhappy, pushing myself to the brink.
I would have been perpetually unhappy and probably turned into a hermit,
doing nothing but work. It’s possible that I would have self-harmed or
developed an eating disorder. I would probably have had a breakdown.

I’m now at UEA and having an amazing time. I aim for Bs not As, which
means I’ve got time for friends and for me. I have the time to listen to
music. I take the weekends off. I cook for myself. I am very, very happy.

Jess Paine is 22 and from Nottingham. Having completed her degree at
Birmingham University, she is now in Greece, working with refugees

Jess Paine
Jess Paine: ‘The experience of giving back to the community has changed
my future plans entirely’. Photograph: Fabio De Paola/The Guardian
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The pandemic was, as weird as this sounds, incredibly positive and
life-affirming for me. It led directly to me reframing my whole life and
even changing the foundations of my identity. Gone are the ambitions for
a high-flying career: I want to help people by being actively political.

I was loving living in Birmingham when Covid hit and we were all told we
had to go home. I had to leave this amazing, massive city behind me and
head back to the tiny, rural village that I thought I’d left behind me
for good. I’m lucky in that I’m an incredibly optimistic person. I had
been so excited to be in Birmingham but when I was sent away, I felt I
was lucky to have a home to go back to and loved all the Zoom calls with
the new uni friends I’d made.

We were given barely any coursework at all for the first year, so I had
a lot of time to myself. Again, a lot of people might have flipped but I
realised that Covid had given me the opportunity to look outside the box
that I would otherwise have been stuck in. It stripped away all familiar
routines and gave me all this solitary time to reflect on my life and
think about what other exciting experiences I now had the opportunity to
engage in. I think of it as an early midlife crisis.

I started doing lots of volunteer work during lockdown and it was a
revelation to me. I found it really liberating and the experience of
giving back to the community has changed my future plans entirely.
Before, I’d always thought I’d go into academia but I’ve realised that
my calling is in volunteering: in the human connection.

Housing and homelessness has became a big passion for me. It wasn’t
something that I’d ever thought about before: there’s no homelessness in
my tiny village. But going to Birmingham, I saw homeless people and that
gave me food for thought. Then when Covid hit, I thought of all the
people stuck in small, poor quality high-rise buildings while I was in
my mum’s lovely home.

The other thing that the lockdown gave me was time to come to faith. I
was already talking with a Christian student group before Covid hit and
we continued the conversations over lockdown. I don’t think I would have
found my way to Christ had it not been for the lockdown: I had the time
to think about the bigger things. It’s something of a miracle. There, I
said it! A miracle. That’s really how I feel.

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HeartDoc Andrew

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The only *healthy* way to stop the pandemic, thereby saving lives, in
the U.K. & elsewhere is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19
) finding out at any given moment, including even while on-line, who
among us are unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or
asymptomatic) in order to http://tinyurl.com/ConvinceItForward (John
15:12) for them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their
doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic. Thus, we're hoping for the
best while preparing for the worse-case scenario of the Alpha lineage
mutations and others like the Omicron, Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota,
Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations combining via
slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like
http://tinyurl.com/Deltamicron that may render current COVID
vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no longer effective.

Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest
) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

So how are you ?









...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

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Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://WonderfullyHungry.org
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
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which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis

Michael Ejercito

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I am wonderfully hungry!


Michael

HeartDoc Andrew

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Michael Ejercito wrote
While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
17:37 means no COVID just as eagles circling over their food have no
COVID) and pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6)
Father in Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy
Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to
always say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways
including especially caring to http://tinyurl.com/ConvinceItForward
(John 15:12 as shown by http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest ) with all
glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba,
DEO), in the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO !

Suggested further reading:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/5EWtT4CwCOg/m/QjNF57xRBAAJ

Shorter link:
http://bit.ly/StatCOVID-19Test

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
(Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart

Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 20:55:28 -0700, NOT Michael Ejercito
<MEje...@HotMail.com> wrote:

>https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/03/we-gave-up-so-much-how-covid-changed-young-peoples-lives
>
>
>‘We gave up so much’: how Covid changed young people’s lives

And it was gooks like you that brought Covid to Yurp, asshole!

Ed Rhodes

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2022 00:06:04 -0400, HeartQuack Andrew
<disc...@T3WiJ.com> wrote:

>NOT Michael Ejercito wrote:

<b'rissed>

>Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest
>) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.

He DOES: for freshly squeezed jew diarrhoea!

>So how are you ?

Never mind that, how are YOU, gook?

Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 21:51:32 -0700, NOT Michael Ejercito
<MEje...@HotMail.com> wrote:

>HeartQuack Andrew wrote:

>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest
>> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>
>> So how are you ?
> I am wonderfully hungry!

How many MORE fucking times are we going to see this inane inter-gook
'conversation', gook?

You need to be RAPTURED by the ICE 5-0 as soon as possible and
deported back to your oriental shithole the Flippines.

Peeler

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2022 10:34:13 +0100, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
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sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe",
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>>https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/03/we-gave-up-so-much-how-covid-changed-young-peoples-lives
>>
>>
>>‘We gave up so much’: how Covid changed young people’s lives
>
> And it was gooks like you that brought Covid to Yurp, asshole!

Yet more ridiculous, idiotic & psychotic nonsense from the resident
psychopath! LOL

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Peeler

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2022 10:34:25 +0100, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Ed Rhodes", farted again:


>>Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest
>>) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>
> He DOES: for freshly squeezed jew diarrhoea!

Stop projecting your OWN perversions onto all those that you feel are
superior to you and straight unlike you, you self-admitted shiteating
psycho!

>>So how are you ?
>
> Never mind that, how are YOU, gook?

A lot better and better off than you, psychopath! Why do you even ask? <BG>

--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"Why do we still have outdated laws prohibiting paedophilia? Do you
seriously think that a 12-year old who spends 15 hours a day on Facebook
doesn't know what's going on?"
MID: <FnMUE.676068$H25.2...@usenetxs.com>

So 12-year-olds are your thing, filthy old pedo swine?

Peeler

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2022 10:36:10 +0100, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe",
farted again:


>> I am wonderfully hungry!
>
> How many MORE fucking times are we going to see this inane inter-gook
> 'conversation', gook?
>
> You need to be RAPTURED by the ICE 5-0 as soon as possible and
> deported back to your oriental shithole the Flippines.

How many MORE non-fucking times are you still going to get hissy fits about
his posts, you ridiculous, sexually crippled, pedophilic dreckserb?

--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"Why do we still have outdated laws prohibiting paedophilia?"
MID: <FnMUE.676068$H25.2...@usenetxs.com>

You will NEVER understand it, eh, filthy old pedo swine?

HeartDoc Andrew

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(Amelia) 10/05/22 RevEd/KK tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ

Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ

"Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
ever more cursed by GOD."

Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
threads:

(1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
Example of being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ

(2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M

(3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM

(4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
now;'"

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM

(5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ

... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ

Laus DEO !

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ

<begin trichotomy>

(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).

(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.

(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.

<end trichotomy>

Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ

> Shame on andrew, look at his red face.

LIE.

The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
color of my face red for those who can see me.

> He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:
>
> '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'

Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.

That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
would've been no reference to "now."

Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
the spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
Scripture.

Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
because the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical
hunger.

It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
eat food "now."

No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."

Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
instead of spiritual.

All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to
unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
than ever.

Laus DEO !

+++

someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
(in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)

> Psalms
> 81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
> open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.

Laus DEO !

> Proverbs


> 13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of
> the wicked is in need.

Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
(Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
satiated).

> Joel
> 2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
> the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
> people shall never be ashamed.

Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
(Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.

Laus DEO ! !

> Psalms
> 107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.

Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
full) is evil.

> Acts
> 14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by
> giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
> your hearts with food and gladness."

In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ

+++

> someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...

Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ

>> Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:

Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10

>> John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing
>> status. He includes himself in that status.

John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
think that Greek grammar is relevant here.

>> 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
>> not in us.
>>
>> 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
>> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>
>> 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is
>> not in us.

John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:

"Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)

And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
cognitive deficits, is really worse.

Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
(John 5:14):

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ

While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

Laus DEO ! ! !

Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.

Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:

http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html

Again, this is done ...

Ed Rhodes

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2022 11:01:05 -0500, HeartQuack Andrew
<ach...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:

><end trichotomy>

Now get a **penectomy**, gook!

HeartDoc Andrew

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(Amelia) 10/05/22 Ed/KK tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...

Michael Ejercito

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Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 21:51:32 -0700, NOT Michael Ejercito
> <MEje...@HotMail.com> wrote:
>
>> HeartQuack Andrew wrote:
>
>>> Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest
>>> ) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
>>>
>>> So how are you ?
>> I am wonderfully hungry!
>
> How many MORE fucking times are we going to see this inane inter-gook
> 'conversation', gook?
Try being wonderfully hungry.

Then you can be rapture ready!
>
> You need to be RAPTURED by the ICE 5-0 as soon as possible and
> deported back to your oriental shithole the Flippines.
>
>
Mangina, ICE has no reason to deport me, for I am an American.

You will always be jealous of the woman in this video.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CidR2PApNXl/

You are a Nazi.

As a Nazi, you are, above all else, a craven coward.

You are afraid to compete with others as equals because you know you
can not measure up.

You are afraid of your own inadequacy, so you want to murder your
betters.

You are afraid of the truth, so you want to murder those who would
tell it.

You are afraid of history, so you want to murder the past, to wipe
out the knowledge of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of National
Socialism.

Finally, you are afraid of the power of educated, informed adults.
Freedom of choice terrifies you… which is why you choose minor children
as sexual partners. You can not interact with competent adults in a
consensually sexual way. You need to be able to impose yourself on a
helpless victim, be it a prepubescent boy, or a patient in a mental
hospital.

That is what you are, a Nazi, and there is nothing polite or honest
about it.

HeartDoc Andrew

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(Amelia) 10/05/22 Again praying w/ MichaelE here ...

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/_2fKwXe4VIw/m/MgyCT4DRBQAJ

Peeler

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2022 16:08:08 +0100, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Ed Rhodes", farted again:


> Now get a **penectomy**, gook!

You REALLY wish everyone would suffer the same fate as you, don't you, you
ridiculous dickless wonder! LOL

--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic answering a question whether there
is any "meaningful" debate to lower the age of consent:
"If there isn't, there should be."
MID: <ZAMUE.174724$Qv2....@usenetxs.com>

You WISH, filthy old pedo swine!

Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 18:50:46 +0200, Foreskin Peeler
<trol...@valid.invalid> wrote:

<fluhs Grik skata>

<KICK>

HeartDoc Andrew

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Peeler

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2022 18:39:13 +0100, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe",
farted again:

>
> <KICK>

ONLY in your retarded delusional "mind", Walter Mitty, you ridiculous
impotent WIMP! LOL

--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"A lowering of the age of consent to reflect the rate at which today's
youngsters 'mature'."
MID: <gKNUE.1374684$Szs1....@usenetxs.com>

ONLY in your wildest gay dreams, gay anal Razovic!

NEMO

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Yup.
--

"SHPAMMERSH ARE CROOKSH
DON'T DO BUSINESSH VITH CROOKSH!"
- jew paedophile shpammer Barry Z. Shein (world.std.com home page)

Greekbastard®™

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2022 18:39:13 +0100, Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe
<fformb...@gmail.com> wrote:

Up the anus!


HeartDoc Andrew

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Peeler

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2022 19:12:13 +0100, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "NEMO", farted again:

> Yup.

Yup, you ARE a VERY VERY sick asshole, pedo swine Razovic!

--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"That [referring to the term "consenting adults"] is just an outdated legal
construct. Are you telling me that a 13-year old who spends 15 hours a day
on Facebook is incapable of consent?"
MID: <Og0VE.1298131$5O3.6...@usenetxs.com>

So 13-year-olds are your thing, filthy old pedo swine?

Peeler

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On Wed, 05 Oct 2022 19:12:46 +0100, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Greekbastard®™", farted again:


> Up the anus!

That's where your "brain" is located, eh, you shiteating gay neo-nazi swine?
LOL

--
Pedophilic dreckserb Razovic arguing in favour of pedophilia, again:
"Are you telling me that a 13-year old who spends 15 hours a day on Facebook
is incapable of consent?"
MID: <Og0VE.1298131$5O3.6...@usenetxs.com>

Are you hoping some 13-year-old would be willing to "consent" and let you
diddle him, filthy old pedo swine?

Michael Ejercito

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Mangina, you are so obsessed with the anus.

Sometimes, some normal boys and normal men fantasize about vulva.

But who accused you of being a normal man?

Greekbastard®™

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On Thu, 6 Oct 2022 07:14:22 -0700, NOT Michael Ejercito
<MEje...@HotMail.com> wrote:

>Greekbastard?? wrote:
>> On Wed, 05 Oct 2022 18:39:13 +0100, Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe
>> <fformb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 18:50:46 +0200, Foreskin Peeler
>>> <trol...@valid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> <fluhs Grik skata>
>>>
>>> <KICK>
>>
>> Up the anus!
>>
> Mangina, you are so obsessed with the anus.

Needledick, you are so obsessed with zsuckling the collective jew
anus.

> Sometimes, some normal boys and normal men fantasize about vulva.

YOU are EXEMPT from vulva.

> But who accused you of being a normal man?

YOU are a subnormal subhuman!

HeartDoc Andrew

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(Amelia) 10/06/22 Again praying w/ MichaelE here ...

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.bible.prophecy/c/_2fKwXe4VIw/m/MgyCT4DRBQAJ

HeartDoc Andrew

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Peeler

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On Thu, 06 Oct 2022 15:28:40 +0100, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous
sexual cripple, making an ass of herself as "Greekbastard®™", farted again:


>> Mangina, you are so obsessed with the anus.
>
> Needledick, you are so obsessed with zsuckling the collective jew
> anus.

HE, clearly isn't! YOU, CLEARLY, are!

>> Sometimes, some normal boys and normal men fantasize about vulva.
>
> YOU are EXEMPT from vulva.

HE doesn't come across as such! YOU certainly do, sexual cripple!

>> But who accused you of being a normal man?
>
> YOU are a subnormal subhuman!

HE isn't! YOU, OBVIOUSLY, ARE!

--
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