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Sajid Javid pushed for Christmas lockdown and mandatory Covid vaccines
Backlash over ex-health secretary’s attack on PM hots up as The
Telegraph can reveal he advocated strict rules to curb omicron spread
By
Tony Diver,
WHITEHALL CORRESPONDENT
8 July 2022 • 9:26pm
Sajid Javid
Two sources said that Sajid Javid, as health secretary, had urged Boris
Johnson to close public spaces to avoid the spread of the virus CREDIT:
Henry Nicholls/WPA Pool/Getty Images
Sajid Javid wanted lockdown measures over Christmas and mandatory Covid
vaccines for employees, it has emerged amid backlash over his speech
condemning Boris Johnson.
The Prime Minister’s allies have hit back at the former health secretary
after he chose to make a “personal statement” in the Commons following
his resignation on Tuesday.
Mr Javid used the speech to publicly question Mr Johnson’s integrity and
draw attention to his own leadership credentials ahead of an expected
leadership bid.
However, MPs said that the speech would turn off potential backers in
the contest, who could feel his decision to speak in the Commons about
his reasons for resigning was disloyal.
Separately, The Telegraph can reveal that Mr Javid pushed for greater
Covid restrictions over Christmas in 2021, amid rising cases of the
omicron variant.
Two sources said that he had urged Mr Johnson to close public spaces
such as shops and hospitality to avoid the spread of the virus.
Placeholder image for youtube video: 5EmuPVfbxos
'Enough is enough': Sajid Javid challenges others to resign from Boris
Johnson's Cabinet
However, Downing Street chose to run a “Plan B” package of measures
instead, which mandated face masks, required Covid passports in some
settings and encouraged working from home.
The plan was activated less than three weeks before Christmas in an
attempt to control new infections without preventing celebrations from
going ahead.
A source said: “He said that we need more measures. We did Plan B, but
he was talking about the need to shut things. I don’t think he had
really thought it through.”
It was also claimed that Mr Javid had suggested that the Government
follow a suggestion by Joe Biden, the US president, and mandate
vaccinations for people who work for companies with more than 100 employees.
The plan would have seen workers told that they must be vaccinated or
wear masks in the workplace, and be tested for Covid at least once per week.
The policy was blocked in the US by the country’s Supreme Court, which
argued it was a “significant encroachment on the lives – and health – of
a vast number of employees”.
Coronavirus Plan B
Instead of locking down the country, Downing Street chose to run a ‘Plan
B’ package of measures, which mandated face masks CREDIT: Mike
Egerton/PA Wire
A representative for Mr Javid did not deny that he had supported the
policy, which sources said was rejected by the Prime Minister in late 2021.
A source close to him said: “The PM and Sajid jointly decided not to
introduce further restrictions. Prior to this, there was some discussion
between teams about some limited additional restrictions for a strictly
limited period in order to avoid the need for tougher measures over
Christmas.
“Lots of ideas were discussed around increasing vaccine uptake. Sajid
ultimately scrapped vaccine passports and also reversed the decision
made on making vaccine a condition of deployment in the NHS.”
Mr Javid has not yet announced his leadership bid, but is widely
expected to after his resignation from the Government earlier this week.
In his Commons personal statement, he said: “It is not fair on
ministerial colleagues to have to go out every morning defending lines
that do not stand up and do not hold up.
“It is not fair on my parliamentary colleagues who bear the brunt of
constituents’ dismay in their inboxes and on the doorsteps in recent
elections, and it is not fair on Conservative members and voters who
rightly expect better standards from the party they supported.”
MPs claimed that the statement had backfired and could cost Mr Javid the
party leadership.
One senior backbencher said: “It was unfortunate. That wasn’t a sensible
move. We are in a difficult situation and I think if you compare what
Saj did and what Rishi [Sunak] did, Rishi was the more statesman-like one.
“The Tories like loyalty, even when they realise the time is up and it’s
time to go. I think it would have been better not to. I thought it was
ill-advised.”
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Sajid Javid pushed for Christmas lockdown and mandatory Covid vaccines
Backlash over ex-health secretary’s attack on PM hots up as The
Telegraph can reveal he advocated strict rules to curb omicron spread
By
Tony Diver,
WHITEHALL CORRESPONDENT
8 July 2022 • 9:26pm
Sajid Javid
Two sources said that Sajid Javid, as health secretary, had urged Boris
Johnson to close public spaces to avoid the spread of the virus CREDIT:
Henry Nicholls/WPA Pool/Getty Images
Sajid Javid wanted lockdown measures over Christmas and mandatory Covid
vaccines for employees, it has emerged amid backlash over his speech
condemning Boris Johnson.
The Prime Minister’s allies have hit back at the former health secretary
after he chose to make a “personal statement” in the Commons following
his resignation on Tuesday.
Mr Javid used the speech to publicly question Mr Johnson’s integrity and
draw attention to his own leadership credentials ahead of an expected
leadership bid.
However, MPs said that the speech would turn off potential backers in
the contest, who could feel his decision to speak in the Commons about
his reasons for resigning was disloyal.
Separately, The Telegraph can reveal that Mr Javid pushed for greater
Covid restrictions over Christmas in 2021, amid rising cases of the
omicron variant.
Two sources said that he had urged Mr Johnson to close public spaces
such as shops and hospitality to avoid the spread of the virus.
Placeholder image for youtube video: 5EmuPVfbxos
'Enough is enough': Sajid Javid challenges others to resign from Boris
Johnson's Cabinet
However, Downing Street chose to run a “Plan B” package of measures
instead, which mandated face masks, required Covid passports in some
settings and encouraged working from home.
The plan was activated less than three weeks before Christmas in an
attempt to control new infections without preventing celebrations from
going ahead.
A source said: “He said that we need more measures. We did Plan B, but
he was talking about the need to shut things. I don’t think he had
really thought it through.”
It was also claimed that Mr Javid had suggested that the Government
follow a suggestion by Joe Biden, the US president, and mandate
vaccinations for people who work for companies with more than 100 employees.
The plan would have seen workers told that they must be vaccinated or
wear masks in the workplace, and be tested for Covid at least once per week.
The policy was blocked in the US by the country’s Supreme Court, which
argued it was a “significant encroachment on the lives – and health – of
a vast number of employees”.
Coronavirus Plan B
Instead of locking down the country, Downing Street chose to run a ‘Plan
B’ package of measures, which mandated face masks CREDIT: Mike
Egerton/PA Wire
A representative for Mr Javid did not deny that he had supported the
policy, which sources said was rejected by the Prime Minister in late 2021.
A source close to him said: “The PM and Sajid jointly decided not to
introduce further restrictions. Prior to this, there was some discussion
between teams about some limited additional restrictions for a strictly
limited period in order to avoid the need for tougher measures over
Christmas.
“Lots of ideas were discussed around increasing vaccine uptake. Sajid
ultimately scrapped vaccine passports and also reversed the decision
made on making vaccine a condition of deployment in the NHS.”
Mr Javid has not yet announced his leadership bid, but is widely
expected to after his resignation from the Government earlier this week.
In his Commons personal statement, he said: “It is not fair on
ministerial colleagues to have to go out every morning defending lines
that do not stand up and do not hold up.
“It is not fair on my parliamentary colleagues who bear the brunt of
constituents’ dismay in their inboxes and on the doorsteps in recent
elections, and it is not fair on Conservative members and voters who
rightly expect better standards from the party they supported.”
MPs claimed that the statement had backfired and could cost Mr Javid the
party leadership.
One senior backbencher said: “It was unfortunate. That wasn’t a sensible
move. We are in a difficult situation and I think if you compare what
Saj did and what Rishi [Sunak] did, Rishi was the more statesman-like one.
“The Tories like loyalty, even when they realise the time is up and it’s
time to go. I think it would have been better not to. I thought it was
ill-advised.”
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HeartDoc Andrew
Jul 10, 2022, 11:59:56 PM7/10/22
to
the U.K. & elsewhere is by rapidly ( http://bit.ly/RapidTestCOVID-19 )
finding out at any given moment, including even while on-line, who
among us are unwittingly contagious (i.e pre-symptomatic or
asymptomatic) in order to http://tinyurl.com/ConvinceItForward (John
15:12) for them to call their doctor and self-quarantine per their
doctor in hopes of stopping this pandemic. Thus, we're hoping for the
best while preparing for the worse-case scenario of the Alpha lineage
mutations and others like the Omicron, Gamma, Beta, Epsilon, Iota,
Lambda, Mu & Delta lineage mutations combining via
slip-RNA-replication to form hybrids like
http://tinyurl.com/Deltamicron that may render current COVID
vaccines/monoclonals/medicines/pills no longer effective.
Indeed, I am wonderfully hungry ( http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest
) and hope you, Michael, also have a healthy appetite too.
So how are you ?
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
2024 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://WonderfullyHungry.org
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis
Michael Ejercito
Jul 11, 2022, 1:45:21 AM7/11/22
to
Michael
HeartDoc Andrew
Jul 11, 2022, 3:15:26 AM7/11/22
to
Michael Ejercito wrote
While wonderfully hungry in the Holy Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy
8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
17:37 means no COVID just as circling eagles don't have COVID) and
pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) Father in
Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit
(Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to always
say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways including
especially caring to http://tinyurl.com/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12
as shown by http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest ) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO !
Suggested further reading:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/5EWtT4CwCOg/m/QjNF57xRBAAJ
Shorter link:
http://bit.ly/StatCOVID-19Test
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
(Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart
8:3) us to hunger, I note that you, Michael, are rapture ready (Luke
17:37 means no COVID just as circling eagles don't have COVID) and
pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that our Everlasting (Isaiah 9:6) Father in
Heaven continues to give us "much more" (Luke 11:13) Holy Spirit
(Galatians 5:22-23) so that we'd have much more of His Help to always
say/write that we're "wonderfully hungry" in **all** ways including
especially caring to http://tinyurl.com/ConvinceItForward (John 15:12
as shown by http://tinyurl.com/RapidOmicronTest ) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD (aka HaShem, Elohim, Abba, DEO), in
the name (John 16:23) of LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO !
Suggested further reading:
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/5EWtT4CwCOg/m/QjNF57xRBAAJ
Shorter link:
http://bit.ly/StatCOVID-19Test
Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrew touts hunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory
( http://bit.ly/Psalm112_1 ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger
(Deuteronomy 8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby
removing the http://tinyurl.com/HeartVAT from around the heart
Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe
Jul 11, 2022, 4:12:28 AM7/11/22
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On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 22:45:18 -0700, NOT Michael Ejercito
<MEje...@HotMail.com> wrote:
>HeartQuack Andrew wrote:
>>NOT Michael Ejercito wrote:
<b'rissed>
>> So how are you ?
>>
>>
> I am wonderfully hungry!
Another inane/banal 'conversation' between two slant eyed mongoloids!
<MEje...@HotMail.com> wrote:
>HeartQuack Andrew wrote:
>>NOT Michael Ejercito wrote:
<b'rissed>
>> So how are you ?
>>
>>
> I am wonderfully hungry!
HeartDoc Andrew
Jul 11, 2022, 8:09:40 AM7/11/22
to
(Sajid) 07/11/22 Terence tragically vainjangling (1 Tim 1:6) ...
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ
Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ
"Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
ever more cursed by GOD."
Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
threads:
(1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
Example of being wonderfully hungry;"
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ
(2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M
(3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM
(4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
now;'"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM
(5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ
... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ
Laus DEO !
While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO ! ! !
Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ
<begin trichotomy>
(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).
(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.
(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.
<end trichotomy>
Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com
+++
someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ
> Shame on andrew, look at his red face.
LIE.
The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
color of my face red for those who can see me.
> He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:
>
> '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'
Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.
That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
would've
been no reference to "now."
Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
the
spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
Scripture.
Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
because
the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical hunger.
It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
eat
food "now."
No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."
Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
instead of spiritual.
All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to
unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
than ever.
Laus DEO !
+++
someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
(in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)
> Psalms
> 81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
> open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.
Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.
Laus DEO !
> Proverbs
> 13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of
> the wicked is in need.
Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
(Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
satiated).
> Joel
> 2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
> the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
> people shall never be ashamed.
Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
(Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.
Laus DEO ! !
> Psalms
> 107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.
Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
full) is evil.
> Acts
> 14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by
> giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
> your hearts with food and gladness."
In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ
+++
> someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ
>> Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:
Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10
>> John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing
>> status. He includes himself in that status.
John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
think that Greek grammar is relevant here.
>> 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
>> not in us.
>>
>> 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
>> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>
>> 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is
>> not in us.
John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:
"Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)
And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
cognitive deficits, is really worse.
Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
(John 5:14):
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ
While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO ! ! !
Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.
Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html
Again, this is done ...
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/4tIJn_I167w/m/bKWQRUarAgAJ
Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ
"Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
ever more cursed by GOD."
Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment
of this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET
threads:
(1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
Example of being wonderfully hungry;"
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.med.cardiology/c/_iVmOb7q3_Q/m/E8L7TNNtAgAJ
(2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M
(3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM
(4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger
now;'"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM
(5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ
... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 )
with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ
Laus DEO !
While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO ! ! !
Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ
<begin trichotomy>
(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).
(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.
(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.
<end trichotomy>
Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com
+++
someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD wrote:
> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ
> Shame on andrew, look at his red face.
LIE.
The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the
color of my face red for those who can see me.
> He is trying to pull a fast one. His scripture bit is found among these:
>
> '14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'
Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.
That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there
would've
been no reference to "now."
Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of
the
spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in
Scripture.
Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst
because
the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical hunger.
It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to
eat
food "now."
No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."
Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a
physician (i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical
instead of spiritual.
All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to
unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which
is tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more
than ever.
Laus DEO !
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someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
(in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)
> Psalms
> 81:10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
> open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.
Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.
Laus DEO !
> Proverbs
> 13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of
> the wicked is in need.
Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
(Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
satiated).
> Joel
> 2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
> the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
> people shall never be ashamed.
Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
(Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.
Laus DEO ! !
> Psalms
> 107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.
Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
full) is evil.
> Acts
> 14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by
> giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
> your hearts with food and gladness."
In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ
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> someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
>> HeartDoc Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...
>>
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ
>> Does andrew's "definition" agree with scripture? Let's see in 1 John:
Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10
>> John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an ongoing
>> status. He includes himself in that status.
John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
think that Greek grammar is relevant here.
>> 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
>> not in us.
>>
>> 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
>> and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
>>
>> 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is
>> not in us.
John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:
"Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)
And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
cognitive deficits, is really worse.
Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
(John 5:14):
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ
While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more
than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO ! ! !
Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had
happened to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob
Pastorio.
Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's
day just 9+ years ago:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html
Again, this is done ...
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