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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 11, 2008, 3:42:35 PM8/11/08
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"Lap-banding involves keyhole surgery to insert a band around the top of the stomach so subjects eat less.

The procedure is said to be a safe and cost-effective method to reduce obesity-related problems such as heart disease, diabetes and cancer.

As a radical cost-cutting measure, the ministry should allow obese members of the public to undergo free weight-loss surgery as is done in Australia, where more than 8,000 lap-banding surgeries are conducted each year to reduce the A$7 billion (RM20.5 billion) obesity burden in New South Wales alone.

In Australia, the establishment of one-stop clinics to tackle obesity-related diseases like diabetes, hypertension and heart failure is about to take off.

Those with a body mass index greater than 30 are referred by their general practitioners to such clinics which have access to specialist doctors, diabetic-treatment nurses, dieticians, psychologists and exercise physiologists.

This multi-disciplinary approach should prove cost-effective in the long run."

Source:

http://twosen.com/2008/08/11/healthy-nation-try-lap-banding-to-keep-tight-rein-on-waistline/

A Spirit-guided comment:

It remains much smarter and wiser to simply and freely choose to eat less, down to the right amount (2PD-OMER Approach) in order to lose the VAT and possibly cure hypertension, type-2 diabetes, and/or dyslipidemia:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ...

.. by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

.. gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://TruthRUS.org/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

.. for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://TruthRUS.org/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

A simple parable for the wise and discerning:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungrier, which is healthier:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow

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Aug 11, 2008, 5:20:24 PM8/11/08
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"Lap-banding involves keyhole surgery to insert a band around the top of
the st
omach so subjects eat less.

The procedure is said to be a safe and cost-effective method to reduce

obesity- related problems such as heart disease, diabetes and cancer.

I regret once again having to suggest the subjectline misleading and
fraught with difficulties.

The above says to reduce related problems, not to cure.

The other surgery methods which do one form of bypass or another while
more intrusive do provide superior results in reversing many symptoms.
Diabetes is particularly responsive as results appear at once before
significant weight loss occurs. The greatly increased levels of glp-1 are
quite effective with diabetes control and suppression of the abnormal
appetite often associated with morbid obesity.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 12, 2008, 5:52:39 AM8/12/08
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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I M Portant

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Aug 12, 2008, 5:17:48 PM8/12/08
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0
>
> <><
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?

The above is an example of the Ostrich Response so typical of Chung. It
is the equivalent of putting his head in the sand and ignoring what was
said as he does not have an legitimate response.

The important thing with the Ostrich Response with his head in the sand
is that it shows his ass sticking up.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 12, 2008, 5:24:04 PM8/12/08
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I M Portant

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Aug 12, 2008, 5:29:35 PM8/12/08
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Cary Kittrell

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Aug 12, 2008, 5:30:07 PM8/12/08
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In article <16nok.7167$lU5....@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net> I M Portant <impo...@important.com> writes:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0
> >
> > <><
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?
>
> The above is an example of the Ostrich Response so typical of Chung. It
> is the equivalent of putting his head in the sand and ignoring what was
> said as he does not have an legitimate response.

But you say that like that's a bad thing!

In actual fact, it's every efficient -- Andy gets a satisfying rush
of that "There! I sure told them!!" feeling, while at the same time
the rest of us are saved from having to pay the slightest attention,
as we long ago learned to skip, on sight, any and all one-fish two-link
responses.

Andy's rather like one of those pull-my-string talking dolls in
that regard. You pull the string two or three dozen times,
you get the same mechanical mindless messages over and over, and
you soon lose interest in ever pulling the string again.


-- cary

Cary Kittrell

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Aug 12, 2008, 5:33:13 PM8/12/08
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I M Portant <impo...@important.com> writes:
>

Hang around. He does that a LOT.


-- cary

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 12, 2008, 5:56:39 PM8/12/08
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I M Portant

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Aug 12, 2008, 6:08:27 PM8/12/08
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Good point - he does seem to repeat himself. Sort of reminds me of a
senile old uncle who kept telling the same stories over and over again.

Cary Kittrell

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Aug 12, 2008, 6:46:26 PM8/12/08
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If his stories were interesting, then he's several sigmas
ahead of Andrew.


-- cary

Don Kirkman

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Aug 12, 2008, 7:02:34 PM8/12/08
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It seems to me I heard somewhere that I M Portant wrote in article
<vRnok.7175$lU5....@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net>:

>>> The above is an example of the Ostrich Response so typical of Chung. It
>>> is the equivalent of putting his head in the sand and ignoring what was
>>> said as he does not have an legitimate response.

>> But you say that like that's a bad thing!

>> In actual fact, it's every efficient -- Andy gets a satisfying rush
>> of that "There! I sure told them!!" feeling, while at the same time
>> the rest of us are saved from having to pay the slightest attention,
>> as we long ago learned to skip, on sight, any and all one-fish two-link
>> responses.

>> Andy's rather like one of those pull-my-string talking dolls in
>> that regard. You pull the string two or three dozen times,
>> you get the same mechanical mindless messages over and over, and
>> you soon lose interest in ever pulling the string again.

>>> The important thing with the Ostrich Response with his head in the sand
>>> is that it shows his ass sticking up.

>Good point - he does seem to repeat himself. Sort of reminds me of a
>senile old uncle who kept telling the same stories over and over again.

But all the senile old uncles I knew had the advantage that most of
their stories were true and about real life.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net

I M Portant

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Aug 12, 2008, 7:34:13 PM8/12/08
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Yes they were.

I M Portant

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Aug 12, 2008, 7:33:33 PM8/12/08
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Yes they were. They were about his life when he was young.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 13, 2008, 1:42:44 AM8/13/08
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convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0

> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> The above is an example of the Ostrich Response so typical of Chung. It
> > >> is the equivalent of putting his head in the sand and ignoring what was
> > >> said as he does not have an legitimate response.
> > >
> > > But you say that like that's a bad thing!
> > >
> > > In actual fact, it's every efficient -- Andy gets a satisfying rush
> > > of that "There! I sure told them!!" feeling, while at the same time
> > > the rest of us are saved from having to pay the slightest attention,
> > > as we long ago learned to skip, on sight, any and all one-fish two-link
> > > responses.
> > >
> > > Andy's rather like one of those pull-my-string talking dolls in
> > > that regard. You pull the string two or three dozen times,
> > > you get the same mechanical mindless messages over and over, and
> > > you soon lose interest in ever pulling the string again.
> > >
> > >> The important thing with the Ostrich Response with his head in the sand
> > >> is that it shows his ass sticking up.
> >
> > Good point - he does seem to repeat himself. Sort of reminds me of a
> > senile old uncle who kept telling the same stories over and over again.
>
> If his stories were interesting, then he's several sigmas
> ahead of Andrew.

Bottom line concerning your having less free will as manifested by
your obsessing here:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a88f3caf4697e3e7?

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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?

anon...@nowhere.you.know

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Aug 13, 2008, 9:03:48 AM8/13/08
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Cary Kittrell

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Aug 13, 2008, 12:28:43 PM8/13/08
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"Obsessing", huh? And how many posts have *you* made here this year? You
may round to the nearest thousand.

-- cary

>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a88f3caf4697e3e7?
>
> <><
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 14, 2008, 7:27:28 AM8/14/08
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> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a88f3caf4697e3e7?
>
> "Obsessing", huh?

Yes.

> And how many posts have *you* made here this year?

Have not been counting.

The ones who have been counting are obsessing.

> You may round to the nearest thousand.

QED

Bottom line concerning your difficulties here:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/773bdee360f7775e?

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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?

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