The Purifier.
cteas...@gmail.com
This verse puzzled some women in a Bible study and they wondered what
this statement meant about the character and nature of God.
One of the women offered to find out the process of refining silver
and get back to the group at their next Bible Study.
That week, the woman called a silversmith and made an appointment to
watch him at work. She didn't mention anything about the reason for
her interest beyond her curiosity about the process of refining
Silver.
As she watched the silversmith, he held a piece of silver over the
fire and let it heat up. He explained that in refining silver, one
needed to hold the silver in the middle of the fire where the flames
were hottest as to burn away all the impurities.
The woman thought about God holding us in such a hot spot; then she
thought again about the verse that says: "He sits as a refiner and
purifier of silver." She asked the silversmith if it was true that he
had to sit there in front of the fire the whole time the silver was
being refined.
The man answered that yes, he not only had to sit there holding the
silver, but he had to keep his eyes on the silver the entire time it
was in the fire. If the silver was left a moment too long in the
flames, it would be destroyed.
The woman was silent for a moment. Then she asked the silversmith,
"How do you know when the silver is fully refined?"
He smiled at her and answered, "Oh, that's easy -- when I see my image
in it." If today you are feeling the heat of the fire, remember that
God has his eye on you and will keep watching you until He sees His
image in you.
Pass this on right now. This very moment, someone needs to know that
God is watching over them. And, whatever they're going through,
they'll be a better person in the end.
"Life is a coin. You can spend it anyway you wish, but you can only
spend it once."
In Christ's Love
Carol T
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS moving you
to share this.
Laus Deo ! ! !
Marana tha ! ! !
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ a whole lot
more, dear sister Carol whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Mu
> This verse puzzled some women in a Bible study and they wondered what
> this statement meant about the character and nature of God.
>
> One of the women offered to find out the process of refining silver
> and get back to the group at their next Bible Study.
I'm sorry, but what is the issue here? What is it about God's character
and nature is up for discussion?
This is like discussing whether lava flow is hot, hotter or hottest.
This is a game, a game of examining the Bible to see who comes up with
the best situational explanation. It is a distraction to being Christian
which I see Christianity as doing not philosophizing about.
flyingrat
lov...@thetruth.com says...
> Laus Deo ! ! !
>
> Marana tha ! ! !
>
Chung is at it again
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/verbigeration
Verbigeration
ver·big·er·a·tion
n.
Obsessive repetition of meaningless words and phrases, especially as a symptom of mental illness.
http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?verbigeration
Constant repetition of meaningless words or phrases; seen in
schizophrenia.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e5fe35da87362f95?
>
> > Laus Deo ! ! !
> >
> > Marana tha ! ! !
>
> Chung is at it again
>
> http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/verbigeration
>
> Verbigeration
> ver·big·er·a·tion
> n.
> Obsessive repetition of meaningless words and phrases, especially as a symptom of mental illness.
>
> http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?verbigeration
>
> Constant repetition of meaningless words or phrases; seen in
> schizophrenia.
Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) that your persistent cognitive
deficits are now associated with obsessive-compulsive symptoms.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
"A weight loss diet is not compatible with a person's healthy balanced
diet."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
JoeSpareBedroom
news:1177321951.2...@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
convicted neighbor FR wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e5fe35da87362f95?
>
> > Laus Deo ! ! !
> >
> > Marana tha ! ! !
>
> Chung is at it again
>
> http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/verbigeration
>
> Verbigeration
> n.
> Obsessive repetition of meaningless words and phrases, especially as a
> symptom of mental illness.
>
> http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?verbigeration
>
> Constant repetition of meaningless words or phrases; seen in
> schizophrenia.
Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) that your persistent cognitive
deficits are now associated with obsessive-compulsive symptoms.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
In what state did you receive your license to practice medicine?
flyingrat
@thetruth.com says...
> convicted neighbor FR wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e5fe35da87362f95?
> >
> > > Laus Deo ! ! !
> > >
> > > Marana tha ! ! !
> >
> > Chung is at it again
> >
> > http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/verbigeration
> >
> > Verbigeration
> > ver·big·er·a·tion
> > n.
> > Obsessive repetition of meaningless words and phrases, especially as a symptom of mental illness.
> >
> > http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?verbigeration
> >
> > Constant repetition of meaningless words or phrases; seen in
> > schizophrenia.
>
> Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) that your persistent cognitive
> deficits are now associated with obsessive-compulsive symptoms.
Really?
I am not the one showing classic symptoms of florid paranoid
schizophrenia.
For instance, "feeling of control by an ouside force", as well as
constantly posting gibberish. Do you also bang your head against hard
surfaces constantly and masturbate at inopportune locations and times?
Your sacking from Ocala was also textbook behaviour for someone with
Aspergers Syndrome. Your lunacy has destroyed your marriage and career,
so it's time to seek serious intervention before you actually hurt
someone physically.
Bottomline: You should be in a secure facility and medicated with a
product such as Stemetol. It isn't like you have any patients or a
practice to worry about, so go to your nearest real doctor and arrange
to have yourself admitted.
Obviously you can't admit yourself as you have no admission priveliges
at any hospital.
Take this as a friendly piece of advice. Next time, your worshipping of
the evil Phelps family might see you cut down in a hail of bullets from
a disgruntled veteran, or a genuine Christian who despises the way you
shit all over their faith.
FR
Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <l...@thetruth.com> wrote in messagenews:1177321951.2...@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> convicted neighbor FR wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e5fe35da87362f95?
>
> > > Laus Deo ! ! !
>
> > > Marana tha ! ! !
>
> > Chung is at it again
>
> >http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/verbigeration
>
> > Verbigeration
> > Obsessive repetition of meaningless words and phrases, especially as a
> > symptom of mental illness.
>
> >http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?verbigeration
>
> > Constant repetition of meaningless words or phrases; seen in
> > schizophrenia.
>
> Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) that your persistent cognitive
> deficits are now associated with obsessive-compulsive symptoms.
>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> In what state did you receive your license to practice medicine?
Desperation.
dkw1...@yahoo.com
What is it about God's character that is up for discussion?
Everything, including the existence or nonexistence of God, if not for
discussion, certainly for individual consideration, thought and
rethought, but probably not at a Bible Study. There, the existence of
a God is pretty much accepted, I imagine, but the nature of God would
certainly not be in agreement, especially the more things you
attribute to God, unless of course you attribute EVERYTHING to God, in
which case, he would be indistinguishable from NO GOD AT ALL. I guess
this belongs in alt. support diet because it is "food for thought". dkw
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Sin is not from GOD.
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Pastor Kutchie, Earthquack's nemesis
<and...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> dkw12...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Apr 23, 3:57 am, Mu <nocowinthi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 23 Apr 2007 01:17:06 -0700, cteasd5...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > This verse puzzled some women in a Bible study and they wondered what
> > > > this statement meant about the character and nature of God.
>
> > > > One of the women offered to find out the process of refining silver
> > > > and get back to the group at their next Bible Study.
>
> > > I'm sorry, but what is the issue here? What is it about God's character
> > > and nature is up for discussion?
>
> > > This is like discussing whether lava flow is hot, hotter or hottest.
>
> > > This is a game, a game of examining the Bible to see who comes up with
> > > the best situational explanation. It is a distraction to being Christian
> > > which I see Christianity as doing not philosophizing about.
>
> > What is it about God's character that is up for discussion?
> > Everything, including the existence or nonexistence of God, if not for
> > discussion, certainly for individual consideration, thought and
> > rethought, but probably not at a Bible Study. There, the existence of
> > a God is pretty much accepted, I imagine, but the nature of God would
> > certainly not be in agreement, especially the more things you
> > attribute to God, unless of course you attribute EVERYTHING to God, in
> > which case, he would be indistinguishable from NO GOD AT ALL. I guess
> > this belongs in alt. support diet because it is "food for thought". dkw
>
> Sin is not from GOD.
>
Neither is anything else. Your creation myth perishes at the hands of
its own logic. The inherent contradictions of your above statement
prove that, as does the need for those who wish to continue to believe
in your myth to commit intellectual suicide.
Daedalus
<lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>convicted neighbor FR wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e5fe35da87362f95?
>>
>> > Laus Deo ! ! !
>> >
>> > Marana tha ! ! !
>>
>> Chung is at it again
>>
>> http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/verbigeration
>>
>> Verbigeration
>> ver搓ig搪r戢暗ion
>> n.
>> Obsessive repetition of meaningless words and phrases, especially as a symptom of mental illness.
>>
>> http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?verbigeration
>>
>> Constant repetition of meaningless words or phrases; seen in
>> schizophrenia.
>
>Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) that your persistent cognitive
>deficits are now associated with obsessive-compulsive symptoms.
>
Why would anyone take medical advice from a fraud like you?
>Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
>
Deliciously in Jesus' tenderness and rich flavor!
>Andrew <><
Jade
Mu
> On Apr 23, 3:57 am, Mu <nocowinthi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 23 Apr 2007 01:17:06 -0700, cteasd5...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> This verse puzzled some women in a Bible study and they wondered what
>>> this statement meant about the character and nature of God.
>>
>>> One of the women offered to find out the process of refining silver
>>> and get back to the group at their next Bible Study.
>>
>> I'm sorry, but what is the issue here? What is it about God's character
>> and nature is up for discussion?
>>
>> This is like discussing whether lava flow is hot, hotter or hottest.
>>
>> This is a game, a game of examining the Bible to see who comes up with
>> the best situational explanation. It is a distraction to being Christian
>> which I see Christianity as doing not philosophizing about.
>
> What is it about God's character that is up for discussion?
I see you got the question right.
> Everything, including the existence or nonexistence of God, if not for
> discussion, certainly for individual consideration, thought and
> rethought, but probably not at a Bible Study.
Which is the context I was commenting within.
> There, the existence of
> a God is pretty much accepted, I imagine, but the nature of God would
> certainly not be in agreement, especially the more things you
> attribute to God, unless of course you attribute EVERYTHING to God, in
> which case, he would be indistinguishable from NO GOD AT ALL. I guess
> this belongs in alt. support diet because it is "food for thought". dkw
I have no idea what you mean by All God = No God, but human discussion
about God, which I use the term as in Creator Of Everything, is much
like a molecule in gasoline discussing a Ferrari.
--
http://www.steppenwolf.com/lyr/mnnster.html
cteas...@gmail.com
> certainly not be in agreement, especially the more things you
> attribute to God,<<<<<<<<<<<<<
If you see your Lord reflected in the face of fellow human beings I
can only hope/pray that what you see is One with the Holy Spirit, for
your sake. All too often people soak themselves in the evil things of
life and attributes of others, and they forget to look for Christ
reflected back at them. For example, if your nature were to be
reflected back at you when you next look into the mirror, rather than
your reflection, what would look back? Would you be happy to move
aside and let it willingly be reflected into the world, or would you
take the time to examine the changes you could be making with Christ's
help?
Bible study, examination, going to church, meeting up with other
Christians and so forth are all ways in which we stand in front of the
mirror recognising the nature of our true selves and adjusting it
constantly into the likeness of Christ. It is an on going process
until the day we die.
Jesus wipes away our sins when we ask Him into our lives. He gives us
the new eyes to see through that mirror in new light. This is the
power of the cross.
WWJD?
In Christ's love
Carol T
unless of course you attribute EVERYTHING to God, in
> which case, he would be indistinguishable from NO GOD AT ALL. I guess
> this belongs in alt. support diet because it is "food for thought". dkw- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Easily concur with what you have written and add:
WWJHYSDW?
(What Would Jesus Have You Say, Do, or Write?)
It remains my choice to continue to receive the guidance of the Holy
Spirit in everything I say, do, and write, because HE is always
right :-)
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ infinitely
more, dear sister Carol whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Pastor Kutchie, Earthquack's nemesis
wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> but the nature of God would
> > certainly not be in agreement, especially the more things you
> > attribute to God,<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> If you see your Lord reflected in the face of fellow human beings I
> can only hope/pray that what you see is One with the Holy Spirit, for
> your sake. All too often people soak themselves in the evil things of
> life and attributes of others, and they forget to look for Christ
What Christ? This Christ:
http://a683.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/64/l_99e9b56709a01c818e4693fa4e39a092.jpg
http://preview.tinyurl.com/39c4c4
Shawn Hirn
Flying Rat, board-certified Earthquack trainer
<chung.i...@privacy.net> wrote:
> In article <1177321951.2...@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, love4
> @thetruth.com says...
> > convicted neighbor FR wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e5fe35da87362f95?
> > >
> > > > Laus Deo ! ! !
> > > >
> > > > Marana tha ! ! !
> > >
> > > Chung is at it again
> > >
> > > http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/verbigeration
> > >
> > > Verbigeration
> > > ver搓ig搪r戢暗ion
> > > n.
> > > Obsessive repetition of meaningless words and phrases, especially as a
> > > symptom of mental illness.
> > >
> > > http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?verbigeration
> > >
> > > Constant repetition of meaningless words or phrases; seen in
> > > schizophrenia.
> >
> > Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) that your persistent cognitive
> > deficits are now associated with obsessive-compulsive symptoms.
>
> Really?
I really wish people would ignore that loon. There's more posts about
that loon then he writes.
Kurt Gavin
"Shawn Hirn" <sr...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-5F6492.0...@newsgroups.comcast.net...
Chung is convenient and fun to vent at.
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
"Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:
yes
he is your intellectual equal after all
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
impeach the bastard - the airtight garage has you neo
Kurt Gavin
"mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges"
<mair_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mair_fheal-1ADBE...@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
Get back to the bath house - your "friends" will be growing lonely.
MarilynMann
labelling Dr. Chung as a schizophrenic would be posting the same kind
of messages if they thought he had cancer or any other serious
disease.
Schizophrenia is a terrible disease. I wouldn't wish it on my worst
enemy. Unfortunately, two close relatives of mine suffer from
schizophrenia. Both are disabled and unable to work.
The medications available for schizophrenia don't always work and have
many side effects. Even people who take their medications faithfully
can continue to suffer from paranoia and hallucinations. Cognition is
almost always effected and antipsychotics aren't usually of much help
in that regard.
Much research is going on, and everyone hopes that better treatments
will be developed.
I am ending my post here because tears are coming to my eyes thinking
about the effect this disease has had on my loved one's lives.
Best regards,
Marilyn
flyingrat
ma...@comcast.net says...
> I'm undoubtedly wasting my breath here, but I wonder if the people
> labelling Dr. Chung as a schizophrenic would be posting the same kind
> of messages if they thought he had cancer or any other serious
> disease.
>
FR
Kurt Gavin
"MarilynMann" <ma...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1178283034....@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> I'm undoubtedly wasting my breath here, but I wonder if the people
> labelling Dr. Chung as a schizophrenic would be posting the same kind
> of messages if they thought he had cancer or any other serious
> disease.
People hassle chung for several reasons.
First and foremost, he endlessly posts brainless xian fantasy garbage,
putting this mindless poisoness crap in people's faces.
This xian garbage has done incalculable damage to society, and people have
an opportunity to crticise and vent against it on usenet - and they do.
Another reason is that the man is a chronic liar, and has some ugly
character flaws that he flaunts. An example is his gloating over the recent
death of Bob P., whose only offense against chung was to do some research
about his job history, and then post it on usenet.
Schizophrenia became an obvious topic since chung is constantly claiming to
hear "holy spirits" talking to him. What else needs to be said?
MarilynMann
Marilyn
Father Haskell
> People hassle chung for several reasons.
I'm bored and he's easy.
Kurt Gavin
> Perhaps you should just not read his posts.
Wrong. I like destroying his xian fantasy sayings and mocking him.
Usenet is for mostly for entertainment.
Perhaps you should just not read my posts.
> Marilyn
>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >
> > Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) that your persistent cognitive
> > deficits are now associated with obsessive-compulsive symptoms.
>
The tense remains present.
Truth is simple.
May GOD bless you.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Father Haskell
<ach...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted neighbor JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5bbe6b04b9a79f46?
>
> > > Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) that your persistent cognitive
> > > deficits are now associated with obsessive-compulsive symptoms.
>
> > In what state did you receive your license to practice medicine?
>
> The tense remains present.
>
> Truth is simple.
IOW, you have no license.
Mu
> I'm undoubtedly wasting my breath here, but I wonder if the people
> labelling Dr. Chung as a schizophrenic would be posting the same kind
> of messages if they thought he had cancer or any other serious
> disease.
>
> Schizophrenia is a terrible disease. I wouldn't wish it on my worst
> enemy. Unfortunately, two close relatives of mine suffer from
> schizophrenia. Both are disabled and unable to work.
Got a very close friend who is and one who is manic-depressive, this is
no fun at all.
> The medications available for schizophrenia don't always work and have
> many side effects. Even people who take their medications faithfully
> can continue to suffer from paranoia and hallucinations. Cognition is
> almost always effected and antipsychotics aren't usually of much help
> in that regard.
>
> Much research is going on, and everyone hopes that better treatments
> will be developed.
>
> I am ending my post here because tears are coming to my eyes thinking
> about the effect this disease has had on my loved one's lives.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marilyn
Condolences to you.
--
http://www.steppenwolf.com/lyr/mnnster.html
Mu
> Perhaps you should just not read his posts.
>
> Marilyn
Marilyn, these are adults and children acting like children. The fact
that Andrew has a running dialog with them, which he is free to do, and
is his choice, fuels their childishness. If I were in his shoes, I would
prolly make the same choices he does by responding.
I am not telling you what to do, just pointing out that we are not under
the same direction as Chung however whatever you choose, it is your
freedom use it as you wish.
--
http://www.steppenwolf.com/lyr/mnnster.html
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Perhaps you should just not read his posts.
>
> Marilyn
It remains GOD's infinite will that all souls retain HIS generous gift
of free will.
Because satan's sockpuppets (demons) no longer have souls, they no
longer have free will.
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
news:1178311883.6...@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> MarilynMann wrote:
>> Perhaps you should just not read his posts.
>>
>> Marilyn
>
> It remains GOD's infinite will that all souls retain HIS generous gift
> of free will.
>
> Because satan's sockpuppets (demons) no longer have souls, they no
> longer have free will.
Says chunkers, who compulsively posts repetitious xian fantasy chants that
alienate even his fellow fantasists...
> May GOD bless you.
May God shut you up (and he would, if he existed).
Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5bbe6b04b9a79f46?
> > >
> > > Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) that your persistent cognitive
> > > deficits are now associated with obsessive-compulsive symptoms.
> >
> > In what state did you receive your license to practice medicine?
>
> The tense remains present.
Actually, "receive" is not (in English) a frequentative verb.
-- cary
Kurt Gavin
> O come, all ye brandeads, fearful and unthinking,
> O come ye, O come ye, to Joooooones...town.
> Come and behold Him, born the King of charrrrrr....latans;
>
> O come, let us drink purple koolaid,
> O come, let us drink purple koolaid,
> O come, let us drink purple koolaid,
> Christ the false one...
Jim07D7
Art Deco
>On 4 May 2007 08:17:10 -0700, MarilynMann wrote:
>
>> Perhaps you should just not read his posts.
>>
>> Marilyn
>
>Marilyn, these are adults and children acting like children. The fact
>that Andrew has a running dialog with them, which he is free to do, and
>is his choice, fuels their childishness.
So mocking the nonsense that Chunk (and you) post is childishness. Got
it.
--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco
"Causation of gravity is missing frame field always attempting
renormalization back to base memory of equalized uniform momentum."
-- nightbat the saucerhead-in-chief
"Of doing Venus in person would obviously incorporate a composite
rigid airship, along with it's internal cache of frozen pizza and
ice cold beer."
-- Brad Guth, bigoted racist
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
Art Deco <er...@caballista.org> wrote:
> Mu <nocowi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On 4 May 2007 08:17:10 -0700, MarilynMann wrote:
> >
> >> Perhaps you should just not read his posts.
> >>
> >> Marilyn
> >
> >Marilyn, these are adults and children acting like children. The fact
> >that Andrew has a running dialog with them, which he is free to do, and
> >is his choice, fuels their childishness.
>
> So mocking the nonsense that Chunk (and you) post is childishness. Got
> it.
when i was a child i did the things of a child
now that i am an adult i put away the things of childhood
and speak of many things
of boots and ships and sealing wax
of cabbage patch kids
and why the sea is boiling hot
and whether icbms have wings
Art Deco
>In article <040520071729329367%er...@caballista.org>,
> Art Deco <er...@caballista.org> wrote:
>
>> Mu <nocowi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On 4 May 2007 08:17:10 -0700, MarilynMann wrote:
>> >
>> >> Perhaps you should just not read his posts.
>> >>
>> >> Marilyn
>> >
>> >Marilyn, these are adults and children acting like children. The fact
>> >that Andrew has a running dialog with them, which he is free to do, and
>> >is his choice, fuels their childishness.
>>
>> So mocking the nonsense that Chunk (and you) post is childishness. Got
>> it.
>
>when i was a child i did the things of a child
>now that i am an adult i put away the things of childhood
>and speak of many things
>of boots and ships and sealing wax
>of cabbage patch kids
>and why the sea is boiling hot
>and whether icbms have wings
I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children
you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
Art Deco <er...@caballista.org> wrote:
> mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
> <mair_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <040520071729329367%er...@caballista.org>,
> > Art Deco <er...@caballista.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Mu <nocowi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 4 May 2007 08:17:10 -0700, MarilynMann wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Perhaps you should just not read his posts.
> >> >>
> >> >> Marilyn
> >> >
> >> >Marilyn, these are adults and children acting like children. The fact
> >> >that Andrew has a running dialog with them, which he is free to do, and
> >> >is his choice, fuels their childishness.
> >>
> >> So mocking the nonsense that Chunk (and you) post is childishness. Got
> >> it.
> >
> >when i was a child i did the things of a child
> >now that i am an adult i put away the things of childhood
> >and speak of many things
> >of boots and ships and sealing wax
> >of cabbage patch kids
> >and why the sea is boiling hot
> >and whether icbms have wings
>
> I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children
> you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.
have you looked at the current presidential candidates
the kingdom is at hand
Art Deco
Oh my. And Chris Matthews is the gatekeeper.
Stephen Knight
>Perhaps you should just not read his posts.
>
>Marilyn
Oh? And you do? How fucked up ARE you? Any three year old would
spot Dung as a psycho in a second flat. If you're someone that reads
his crap and nods like a rubber dog in the back window, you're more
fucked up than he is.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
MarilynMann
My point is that if someone has schizophrenia it is not his or her
fault.
Throwing around such terms in a pejorative way is demeaning to people
who never asked for what they got in life.
There but for the grace of God go I.
Marilyn
Jim Chinnis
I agree completely.
I will also add, as I have every year or so before, that everyone has the
right to post here. Usenet provides no way to block people from posting, and
that's a good thing. It's up to the user to decide what to read and what not
to read.
I happen to think that the main disruption of this newsgroup has come from
those trying to oppose, ridicule, or in some other way do combat with Dr.
Chung and others. They are the ones who are most at fault here. They are
uncomfortable with others who don't behave as they do or who have ideas that
run counter to their own.
Shame on them.
I have not witnessed that sort of malevolence from Dr. Chung.
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA
tr...@is-better.com
>>My point is that if someone has schizophrenia it is not his or her
>>fault.
>>
>>Throwing around such terms in a pejorative way is demeaning to people
>>who never asked for what they got in life.
>>
>>There but for the grace of God go I.
>>
>>Marilyn
>
>I agree completely.
>
>I will also add, as I have every year or so before, that everyone has the
>right to post here. Usenet provides no way to block people from posting, and
>that's a good thing. It's up to the user to decide what to read and what not
>to read.
>
>I happen to think that the main disruption of this newsgroup has come from
>those trying to oppose, ridicule, or in some other way do combat with Dr.
>Chung and others. They are the ones who are most at fault here. They are
>uncomfortable with others who don't behave as they do or who have ideas that
>run counter to their own.
>
>Shame on them.
>
>I have not witnessed that sort of malevolence from Dr. Chung.
I agree in large part with the views above. However even with such an
affliction one is still responsible for his own behavior. In times past
andrew said he did not cross post, only respond to others who did. This
was only half a truth.
Now he discards any idea of pretense and does so in almost all cases,
even when replying to a message in a single newsgroup he adds others and
many of those have nothing to do with the subject. This also displays a
very vengeful attitude, if someone doesn't agree with hin even on valid
grounds he will continue adding that group to nonrelevant posts for
spite.
He makes a point to post where he will get attention to be seen as a
victum and thus to self justify claims about hinself as being in special
contact with the divine. He is soley and speciffically responsible for
these behaviors regardless of his affliction.
Mu
>>>My point is that if someone has schizophrenia it is not his or her
>>>fault.
>>>
>>>Throwing around such terms in a pejorative way is demeaning to people
>>>who never asked for what they got in life.
>>>
>>>There but for the grace of God go I.
>>>
>>>Marilyn
>>
>>I agree completely.
>>
>>I will also add, as I have every year or so before, that everyone has the
>>right to post here. Usenet provides no way to block people from posting, and
>>that's a good thing. It's up to the user to decide what to read and what not
>>to read.
>>
>>I happen to think that the main disruption of this newsgroup has come from
>>those trying to oppose, ridicule, or in some other way do combat with Dr.
>>Chung and others. They are the ones who are most at fault here. They are
>>uncomfortable with others who don't behave as they do or who have ideas that
>>run counter to their own.
>>
>>Shame on them.
>>
>>I have not witnessed that sort of malevolence from Dr. Chung.
On 05 May 2007 15:36:14 GMT, tr...@is-better-wishIknewsome.com wrote:
> I agree in large part with the views above. However even with such an
> affliction one is still responsible for his own behavior.
When I read statements like this above, I understand that you just got
lost in thought, not your fault, it was unfamiliar territory.
--
http://www.steppenwolf.com/lyr/mnnster.html
tr...@is-better.com
> affliction one is still responsible for his own behavior.
"When I read statements like this above, I understand that you just got
lost in thought, not your fault, it was unfamiliar territory."
Then help us out, is andrew responsible for his own actions regardless
of his affliction? When he posts in spite off topic items to a
newsgroup just because otherwise valid views were expressed in it not to
his liking does his affliction excuse it?
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> >>>My point is that if someone has schizophrenia it is not his or her
> >>>fault.
> >>>
> >>>Throwing around such terms in a pejorative way is demeaning to people
> >>>who never asked for what they got in life.
> >>>
> >>>There but for the grace of God go I.
> >>>
> >>>Marilyn
> >>
> >>I agree completely.
> >>
> >>I will also add, as I have every year or so before, that everyone has the
> >>right to post here. Usenet provides no way to block people from posting, and
> >>that's a good thing. It's up to the user to decide what to read and what not
> >>to read.
> >>
> >>I happen to think that the main disruption of this newsgroup has come from
> >>those trying to oppose, ridicule, or in some other way do combat with Dr.
> >>Chung and others. They are the ones who are most at fault here. They are
> >>uncomfortable with others who don't behave as they do or who have ideas that
> >>run counter to their own.
> >>
> >>Shame on them.
> >>
> >>I have not witnessed that sort of malevolence from Dr. Chung.
>
>
> > I agree in large part with the views above. However even with such an
> > affliction one is still responsible for his own behavior.
>
> When I read statements like this above, I understand that you just got
> lost in thought, not your fault, it was unfamiliar territory.
Without the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, it will be forever lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor
invincible...
...we are simply forgiven:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water so that we
can love our neighbors a little more and LORD Jesus Christ infinitely
more, dear brother Mu whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com
"Unlike the 2PD-OMER Approach, weight loss diets can't be combined
with well-balanced diets."
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
Pastor Kutchie, Earthquack's nemesis
> MarilynMann <m...@comcast.net> wrote in part:
Who are you trying to kid?
tr...@is-better.com
>> >>>My point is that if someone has schizophrenia it is not his or her
>> >>>fault.
>> >>>
>> >>>Throwing around such terms in a pejorative way is demeaning to people
>> >>>who never asked for what they got in life.
>> >>>
>> >>>There but for the grace of God go I.
>> >>>
>> >>>Marilyn
>> >>
>> >>I agree completely.
>> >>
>> >>I will also add, as I have every year or so before, that everyone has the
>> >>right to post here. Usenet provides no way to block people from posting, an
>d
>> >>that's a good thing. It's up to the user to decide what to read and what no
>t
>> >>to read.
>> >>
>> >>I happen to think that the main disruption of this newsgroup has come from
>> >>those trying to oppose, ridicule, or in some other way do combat with Dr.
>> >>Chung and others. They are the ones who are most at fault here. They are
>> >>uncomfortable with others who don't behave as they do or who have ideas tha
>t
>> >>run counter to their own.
>> >>
>> >>Shame on them.
>> >>
>> >>I have not witnessed that sort of malevolence from Dr. Chung.
I agree in large part with the views above. However even with such an
affliction one is still responsible for his own behavior. In times past
andrew said he did not cross post, only respond to others who did. This
was only half a truth.
Now he discards any idea of pretense and does so in almost all cases,
even when replying to a message in a single newsgroup he adds others and
many of those have nothing to do with the subject. This also displays a
very vengeful attitude, if someone doesn't agree with hin even on valid
grounds he will continue adding that group to nonrelevant posts for
spite.
He makes a point to post where he will get attention to be seen as a
victum and thus to self justify claims about hinself as being in special
contact with the divine. He is soley and speciffically responsible for
these behaviors regardless of his affliction.
God bless.
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1178395052.5...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Aside from pretending the the bible isn't full of contradictions and logical
and ethical problems, what can you do to prove the jesus is true?
Can you have him appear so he can prove his existence and powers?
If not, why not?
Things that are real can be proven.
Terry
wrote:
> brother Mu wrote:
>
I really am trying to resist the temptation to stalk the guy and reply
with porn ads.
Free speech works for everyone.
Please stop cross posting this off topic.
Parsifal
Ah, fuck off, moron.
Stop bothering us with your nonsense and get a life.
You wanna do something for your sect? Go pray for us instead of
driving us crazy with your moronic rant.
You're fucking pathetic, Chung. Don't you get it? No one, even those
who call themselves "christians" support you or even bother reading
your verbal diarrhea.
Mu
> "When I read statements like this above, I understand that you just got
> lost in thought, not your fault, it was unfamiliar territory."
>
> Then help us out, is andrew responsible for his own actions regardless
> of his affliction?
If he is schizophrenic which is the context of this thread, no.
>When he posts in spite off topic items to a
> newsgroup just because otherwise valid views were expressed in it not to
> his liking does his affliction excuse it?
What affliction?
--
http://www.steppenwolf.com/lyr/mnnster.html
tr...@is-better.com
> of his affliction?
"If he is schizophrenic which is the context of this thread, no."
Have you any experience for comparison with the paranoid schizophrenic?
It is a matter of degree and level of functioning. Many are quite able
to understand what they are doing and why and as such can not use the
affliction as an excuse for decisions. There is a great
misunderstanding in the general public on this point.
If an individual in the same manner as any decides in a deliberate path
to take revenge because he is shown in a poor light, it is not the
affliction at its root but ordinary human failing.
If that decision of revenge is amenable to self control and same is
demonstrated situationally he is fully responsible by any measure.
However when we are dealing with a more or less fixed set of behaviors
which vary in intensity as the cycle of decompensation does, then it is
a product of the affliction and not amenable to a large degree to
individual modification and thus of responsibility. Observed over time
the distinction between the ordinary human failing and the fixed
behaviors are rather obvious.
>When he posts in spite off topic items to a
> newsgroup just because otherwise valid views were expressed in it not to
> his liking does his affliction excuse it?
"What affliction?"
I understand he is your friend and want to protect him especially from
the rabid mockers. I noted that you were away from the newsgroups for
some time and returned during the 40 day fast and seemd quite
understandably taken aback at the level of decompensation that level of
physical stress caused. You tried gently to redirect his fixed course
but to no avail and have since stayed around to do as much support and
deflection as possible. I respect you for that and you are to be
commended.
If you are sencere I can post a descriptive list of symptoms for your
consideration and you can gauge for yourself.
Olrik
"Long subject line is evidence of psychosis" -- Jack Daniels
Olrik
<snip Chung's self-serving, blasphemous droppings>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> "Long subject line is evidence of psychosis" -- Jack Daniels
>
> Olrik
"Quoting Jack Daniels is a sign of alcoholism." -- Holy Spirit
Amen.
The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more
special ...
... we simply have turned to GOD and HE has forgiven us:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
May you wisely choose to be forgiven too by turning to HIM and
publicly declaring with your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1178440231.6...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
>>
>> "Long subject line is evidence of psychosis" -- Jack Daniels
>>
>> Olrik
>
> "Quoting Jack Daniels is a sign of alcoholism." -- Holy Spirit
Interesting.
With that little quip, chung fully acknowledges that the "holy spirit"
voices are something he is *conciously* generating, himself.
That lowers the emphasis on a shizophrenic diagnosis, and adds weight to the
fraud diagnosis.
Cubit
addresses.
Knowingly imposing one's self on those who do not want to hear is
harassment.
Kurt Gavin
"Cubit" <n...@not.not> wrote in message
news:Yco%h.670$LR5...@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
>I have blocked Chung about 6 to 10 times now, but he keeps using new email
>addresses.
>
> Knowingly imposing one's self on those who do not want to hear is
> harassment.
Knowing how he posts, and having seen a recent photo of him, I think he's in
a lot of psychological distress, and is acting out similarly to a troubled
child.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8051301848367fac?
>
> I have blocked Chung about 6 to 10 times now, but he keeps using new email
> addresses.
The email address is not new:
Bottomline: You are untruthful.
Your being untruthful simply shows that you are lost:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
This victory belongs to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
mind, and strength:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/fear.asp
Reverently fear GOD and dread nothing that is of this world:
http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought
Your consolation prize is eternal life if you wisely choose to
surrender to HIM by publicly declaring with your mouth that "Jesus is
LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Don Kirkman
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <1178440231.6...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>:
>"Quoting Jack Daniels is a sign of alcoholism." -- Holy Spirit
Even his books on running? I don't think he even mentions alcohol in
them, and I'm sure he isn't an alcoholic and doesn't promote overuse of
alcohol. You could look it up, you know. BTW, he's also a PhD.
--
Don Kirkman
Mu
> I have blocked Chung about 6 to 10 times now, but he keeps using new email
> addresses.
You can't use a simple killfilter in OE but you want us to believe that
you can accurately count calories?
> Knowingly imposing one's self on those who do not want to hear is
> harassment.
Pot,kettle,black Cubit.
Grandpa Chuck
So why bother to tell the rest of us that have successfully blocked
him?
--
Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~
Americans killed in Iraq as of May 06, 2007 is 3,368.
United Kingdom = 147 Other = 125.
How many more Americans must die to satisfy Bush's ego?
As of May 06, 2007 it has been 1484 days, over FOUR YEARS, since Bush
while standing in front of the banner which was sent
to the ship by the White House saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
declared,"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our
allies have prevailed." IOW MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
Let us all pray for Bush - God knows he needs it!
Isn't Bush's "surge" of troops working well?
Pay attention to the acceleration of American deaths since it began.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag, and carrying a cross." --Sinclair
Lewis
Kurt Gavin
> neighbor Cubit wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8051301848367fac?
>>
>> I have blocked Chung about 6 to 10 times now, but he keeps using new
>> addresses.
>
> The email address is not new:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yt3an6
>
> Bottomline: You are untruthful.
>
> Your being untruthful simply shows that you are lost:
Anybody can check the "from" property of your posts to see that you use a
changing variety of "froms" to evade message blockers.
Not only are you a liar, you're a stupid one - wholly typical of a christian
fundie.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>
> > convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
> >>
> >> "Long subject line is evidence of psychosis" -- Jack Daniels
> >>
> >>
> >> Olrik
>
Amen.
> Even his books on running?
In this context, it should be clear to the most casual observer that
the Holy Spirit is right.
Indeed, HE is right in every context because HE is GOD, the Author of
all reality (including the alternate ones).
Most assuredly, without doubt, I know GOD to be kind, just, and right.
The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more
special...
...we are simply forgiven by GOD:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
May you wisely choose to be forgiven too by publicly declaring with
Kurt Gavin
> convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/960c162dec968197?
>>
>> > convicted neighbor Olrik wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Long subject line is evidence of psychosis" -- Jack Daniels
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Olrik
>>
>> >"Quoting Jack Daniels is a sign of alcoholism." -- Holy Spirit
>
> Amen.
>
>> Even his books on running?
>
> In this context, it should be clear to the most casual observer that
> the Holy Spirit is right.
>
> Indeed, HE is right in every context because HE is GOD, the Author of
> all reality (including the alternate ones).
It's becoming obvious that chunkers is trending toward thinking he is, or is
closely associated with, this "holy spirit".
Chunkers: you look haggard (Tedi Haggard? ;-)) ) and you're posting is
getting weirder and more acerbic.
What if you found out that jesus wants to kill you to stop embarrassing him?
Or do you already think that, and that's the reason you're up all night
posting?
Muse Groops
> convicted neighbor JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) that your persistent cognitive
>>> deficits are now associated with obsessive-compulsive symptoms.
>> In what state did you receive your license to practice medicine?
>
> The tense remains present.
>
> Truth is simple.
>
> May GOD bless you.
>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
OMG "AWESOME"? That is SOOOOO 80's, GAG ME WITH A SPOON!
Pastor Kutchie, Earthquack's nemesis
Like, totally.
Mu
>> Then help us out, is andrew responsible for his own actions regardless
>> of his affliction?
>
> "If he is schizophrenic which is the context of this thread, no."
>
> Have you any experience for comparison with the paranoid schizophrenic?
Now its PS, before it was the general classification of schizophrenia.
Let me blow this insanity of yours up right now. I know Chung. I know
way too many mentally diseased friends and people. This isn't going to
work for you, this Chung - mentally diseased thing and calling me to
express my experience with mental disease.
OTOH, what can be said about you and you moronic associates, you who
morph into dozens of personalities and spends a gazillion of hours on
SMC et al chasing Chung post by post accomplishing what? Saving the
world?
Here's the truth. You're a punk who's wasting his life being a punk. You
have intelligence and you decide to waste that gift acting like you are
form some ghetto?.
Chung is a cardiologist in any given day he does more good on Usenet
than any harm punks like you can undo in a year. That's the facts
Punktruth@is-better and you damn well know it.
So all you have left is your punkass obsessions and your own life
wasting Usenet blatherings.
OT: (Hi Cary, my, why did you stop responding to me when I called you
out as the obsessive, lying life-degrading person that you are?)
I hope to God you get a clue, tr...@is-better.com. To realistically look
at those people who would have greatly benefited for the advice of a
cardiologist, free, but came to SMC and were put off by your and yours
atrocious, unbalanced behaviors.
You have blood dripping from your Usenet hands, people you personally
rebuffed due to your obsessive inanity to "rebuff" Dr. Andrew Chung.
--
http://www.steppenwolf.com/lyr/mnnster.html
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> satan via a sockpuppet (demon) wrote in his usual lying fashion:
It is written that lying is his native language and he has been
murderer from the very outset.
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever, dear brother Mu whom I love unconditionally:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist
Sanity's Little Helper
$.1l78fuax...@40tude.net to sci.med.cardiology:
> Chung is a cardiologist
Prove it. He can't.
--
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N.
"If you are informed by God, you can be misinformed by nobody" - Osama Bin
Laden
Andy is Evil
news:18deyafcgnsw3$.1l78fuax...@40tude.net:
The evidence of Andrew's repeated cynical obsessive use of sock puppets is
visible to anyone who looks at the headers of his posts.
There are many threads over the _years_ where Andrew has been invited to
consider posting on-topic and to refrain from spamming. His typical
responses have been to reply with cut and pastes from a meagre repetoire of
biblical or religiously stylised mishmashes of his own construction. When
these fail in the face of reasoned argument he cuts and runs or constructs
rather poor logical fallacies. When really pressed he goes deaf and blind.
Would that he would also go dumb and take up pinball.
With respect to the well being of sci.med.cardiology and other useful Usenet
groups, he just doesn't give a damn.
Mu is either one of Andrew's sockpuppets or is amazingly ignorant. In either
case he doesn't warrant serious consideration.
Andy is Evil
Sanity's Little Helper
news:Xns9978E35B7AD0C...@194.177.96.26 to sci.med.cardiology:
> Mu <nocowi...@gmail.com> wrote in news:18deyafcgnsw3
> $.1l78fuax...@40tude.net to sci.med.cardiology:
>
>
>> Chung is a cardiologist
>
> Prove it. He can't.
>
<drums fingers on desk....>
--
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N.
aa #2208
"Jesus loves you, so I don't have to" - Osama Bin Loiodice
Kurt Gavin
"Mu" <nocowi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:18deyafcgnsw3$.1l78fuax9pel7.dlg@40tude.net...
> On 06 May 2007 01:08:25 GMT, tr...@is-better.com wrote:
>
>>> Then help us out, is andrew responsible for his own actions regardless
>>> of his affliction?
>>
>> "If he is schizophrenic which is the context of this thread, no."
>>
>> Have you any experience for comparison with the paranoid schizophrenic?
>
> Now its PS, before it was the general classification of schizophrenia.
>
> Let me blow this insanity of yours up right now. I know Chung. I know
> way too many mentally diseased friends and people.
No doubt Moo Poo punk knows all sorts of mental defectives, and is probably
one himself, and may even be chung himself, posting under an alias. (Yet
another symptom, in itself?)
Anyone familiar with Chung's posts know he alludes to getting information
from supernatural beings. Often, he refers to the "Holy Spirit" . Auditory
hallucinations are a common symptom of schizophrenia.
from http://www.ehealthmd.com/library/schizophrenia/SCH_symptoms.html#hallu
"The most common type of hallucination is hearing imaginary voices that give
commands, make comments, or warn of impending danger. The person experiences
these voices talking to them as "he" or "she" (third-person auditory
hallucinations)."
MarilynMann
rude, just show that the people posting know little about
schizophrenia. For many people with schizophrenia, the available
medications are ineffective or only partially effective against their
psychotic symptoms. Therefore, even if you know someone is having
such symptoms, that does not imply that person is not on medication.
Why don't you people get a life?
Marilyn
Kurt Gavin
"MarilynMann" <ma...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1185576801.3...@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> The constant references to "unmedicated schizophrenic," besides being
> rude,
No, they're basically appropriate rejoinders to someone who claims that he
receives communications from supernatural beings, as chung does.
>just show that the people posting know little about
> schizophrenia.
I don;t doubt you have more personal experience.
For many people with schizophrenia, the available
> medications are ineffective or only partially effective against their
> psychotic symptoms.
What does that have to do with the OP's subject heading? That chung IS
taking meds but they don't work?
Therefore, even if you know someone is having
> such symptoms, that does not imply that person is not on medication.
>
> Why don't you people get a life?
There's nothing wrong with challenging nuts claiming they have the authority
of supernatural beings behind them.
Take your meds.
>
> Marilyn
>
MarilynMann
> "MarilynMann" <ma...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1185576801.3...@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > The constant references to "unmedicated schizophrenic," besides being
> > rude,
>
> No, they're basically appropriate rejoinders to someone who claims that he
> receives communications from supernatural beings, as chung does.
>
> >just show that the people posting know little about
> > schizophrenia.
>
> I don;t doubt you have more personal experience.
As a matter of fact, I do. Two members of my family suffer from it.
>
> For many people with schizophrenia, the available
>
> > medications are ineffective or only partially effective against their
> > psychotic symptoms.
>
> What does that have to do with the OP's subject heading? That chung IS
> taking meds but they don't work?
I have no info on his meds.
> Therefore, even if you know someone is having
>
> > such symptoms, that does not imply that person is not on medication.
>
> > Why don't you people get a life?
>
> There's nothing wrong with challenging nuts claiming they have the authority
> of supernatural beings behind them.
>
Perhaps, but if you really think someone is mentally ill, why would
you criticize them for their actions? Do you think they can control
themselves if they only try hard enough? Do you get your kicks from
making fun of mentally ill people? I think that's cruel and pathetic.
Marilyn
Kurt Gavin
> On Jul 27, 7:03 pm, "Kurt Gavin" <bugger...@s.com> wrote:
>> "MarilynMann" <ma...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1185576801.3...@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > The constant references to "unmedicated schizophrenic," besides being
>> > rude,
>>
>> No, they're basically appropriate rejoinders to someone who claims that
>> he
>> receives communications from supernatural beings, as chung does.
>>
>> >just show that the people posting know little about
>> > schizophrenia.
>>
>> I don;t doubt you have more personal experience.
>
> As a matter of fact, I do. Two members of my family suffer from it.
>
>>
>> For many people with schizophrenia, the available
>>
>> > medications are ineffective or only partially effective against their
>> > psychotic symptoms.
>>
>> What does that have to do with the OP's subject heading? That chung IS
>> taking meds but they don't work?
>
> I have no info on his meds.
So what you wrote had no bearing on chung or his problems.
>
>> Therefore, even if you know someone is having
>>
>> > such symptoms, that does not imply that person is not on medication.
>>
>> > Why don't you people get a life?
>>
>> There's nothing wrong with challenging nuts claiming they have the
>> authority
>> of supernatural beings behind them.
>>
>
> Perhaps, but if you really think someone is mentally ill, why would
> you criticize them for their actions?
Of course you would. Do you think mental illness is a ticket that allows
people to do whatever they want?
Most of the religions of the world were founded and perpetuated by people
claiming the authority of a relationship with supernatural beings.
Some were nuts, some were liars. all were harmful.
>Do you think they can control
> themselves if they only try hard enough?
That's not the point. Should psychos be free to kill and rape?
Should pedophile priests be free to molest children?
Do you get your kicks from
> making fun of mentally ill people? I think that's cruel and pathetic.
I think you're a clueless hysteric..
>
> Marilyn
>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> satan via a sockpuppet (demon) wrote:
> > friend "MarilynMann" <ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > The constant references to "unmedicated schizophrenic," besides being
> > > rude,
> >
> > No, they're basically appropriate rejoinders to someone who claims that he
> > receives communications from supernatural beings, as chung does.
> >
> > >just show that the people posting know little about
> > > schizophrenia.
> >
> > I don;t doubt you have more personal experience.
>
> As a matter of fact, I do. Two members of my family suffer from it.
Sad to read about this.
Then you know firsthand that folks with paranoid schizophrenia would
shun usenet and other public forums, would be unable to pray, and
would decompensate when threatened by others.
Thus, you know personally that GOD has kept me from suffering from
such a debilitating mental illness that has stricken two members of
your family.
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.
Kurt Gavin
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <hear...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
news:1185631186.4...@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> friend MarilynMann wrote:
>> satan via a sockpuppet (demon) wrote:
>> > friend "MarilynMann" <ma...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > The constant references to "unmedicated schizophrenic," besides being
>> > > rude,
>> >
>> > No, they're basically appropriate rejoinders to someone who claims that
>> > he
>> > receives communications from supernatural beings, as chung does.
>> >
>> > >just show that the people posting know little about
>> > > schizophrenia.
>> >
>> > I don;t doubt you have more personal experience.
>>
>> As a matter of fact, I do. Two members of my family suffer from it.
>
> Sad to read about this.
>
> Then you know firsthand that folks with paranoid schizophrenia would
> shun usenet and other public forums, would be unable to pray, and
> would decompensate when threatened by others.
Is that true? Give us some credible psychiatric sources that back up what
you say above.
Most people are aware that all sorts of nuts show up on Usenet and use it as
a forum for acting out their mental problems.
As for you, Andrew:
You claim to receive communications from a supernatural "holy spirit".
You make predictions of impending disasters, that don't occur.
You claim authority based on some sort of relationship and stature with
supernatural beings.
You denounce people, based on this supposed stature and knowledge given you
by the "holy spirit", and other supernatural beings.
You make claims about supernatural demons, devils and "satan".
You make truly bizarre, weird references about people being covered with
"satan's ejaculate".
> Thus, you know personally that GOD has kept me from suffering from
> such a debilitating mental illness
I think this is an example of a person with mental problems being in denial,
and finding it much more convenient to ascribe their symptoms to an elevated
relationship with supernatural beings.
As far as I know, a common symptom of schizophrenia is for the victim to
ideate beings who are talking to him, giving him information and commands.