The effect of drinking and exercise on mortality
bigvince
By John Gever, Staff Writer, MedPage Today
Published: January 02, 2008
Reviewed by Dori F. Zaleznik, MD; Associate Clinical Professor of
Medicine, Harvard Medical School, Boston.
COPENHAGEN, Jan. 8 -- Exercise and moderate alcohol intake were
correlated with lower death rates over a 20-year period, researchers
here found.
People who consumed from one to 14 alcoholic beverages a week had 20-
year death rates from ischemic heart disease about 30% lower than did
non-drinkers across all levels of physical activity, reported Morten
Grønbæk, M.D., Ph.D., of the University of Southern Denmark, and
colleagues in the online European Heart Journal.
It's the latest study to find, as the researchers put it, "adverse
health effects associated with alcohol abstention." .........
http://www.medpagetoday.com/PrimaryCare/DietNutrition/dh/7893
Benefits seem to be at least as good as drug treatment such as
statins. 30% decrease in heart related deaths and benefit on all cause
mortality
Thanks Vince
J666
I'll drink to that.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
longest are the ones who are the hungriest (healthiest) because they
have not been overeating thereby accumulating that harmful VAT:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHealthy
bigvince wrote:
> Bending the Elbow and Conventional Exercise Prolong Life
> By John Gever, Staff Writer, MedPage Today
> Published: January 02, 2008
> Reviewed by Dori F. Zaleznik, MD; Associate Clinical Professor of
> Medicine, Harvard Medical School, Boston.
>
> COPENHAGEN, Jan. 8 -- Exercise and moderate alcohol intake were
> correlated with lower death rates over a 20-year period, researchers
> here found.
>
> People who consumed from one to 14 alcoholic beverages a week had 20-
> year death rates from ischemic heart disease about 30% lower than did
> non-drinkers across all levels of physical activity, reported Morten
> Gr�nb�k, M.D., Ph.D., of the University of Southern Denmark, and
J666
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> In our collective clinical experience, the folks that are living the
> longest are the ones who are the hungriest (healthiest) because they
> have not been overeating thereby accumulating that harmful VAT:
In our collective experience for these people their life only seems
longer because of the misery of being hungry.
The people who do live the longest are those who are soleless.
Being barefoot is blessed.
Juhana Harju
Here is the related full study:
http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/ehm574v1
--
Juhana
Ravintoblogini:
http://ruohikolla.blogspot.com/
Bill
"Juhana Harju" <no...@mail.fi> wrote:
> http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/ehm574v1
Was looking at
Hazard ratios (95% confidence intervals) for fatal ischaemic heart
disease associated with the combined influence of leisure-time physical
activity level and weekly alcohol intake among 11 914 men and women
(1242 cases).
....
Graph. If the error bars are similar or can a line can touch them all
it means there is no significant difference.
Bill who wonder what Jim thinks.
PS Thanks for the post!
--
Bill
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA
ICAO = KMIV
Jim Chinnis
In classical statistics, things are complex because you need to know what
comparisons were planned and which were post hoc. It can be messy.
But keeping things simple--and not having read the full report!--it looks
like the authors want to compare the solid dark circle on the left (inactive
nondrinker) with the other categories. Roughly, if the 95% intervals shown
include the value for the solid dark circle, the difference is not
significant.
Drink up!
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> In article <5ukqi7F...@mid.individual.net>,
> "Juhana Harju" <no...@mail.fi> wrote:
>
> > http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/ehm574v1
>
> Was looking at
>
> Hazard ratios (95% confidence intervals) for fatal ischaemic heart
> disease associated with the combined influence of leisure-time physical
> activity level and weekly alcohol intake among 11 914 men and women
> (1242 cases).
>
> ....
>
> Graph. If the error bars are similar or can a line can touch them all
> it means there is no significant difference.
Correct.
It remains wiser to address the overeating which leads to the
formation of VAT, which is the proximate cause of ischaemic heart
disease:
Bill
Jim Chinnis <jchi...@SPAMalum.mit.edu> wrote:
Skoal !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skoal
Bill
J666
>
> It remains wiser to address the overeating which leads to the
> formation of VAT, which is the proximate cause of ischaemic heart
> disease:
The VAT may be more proximate because it is closer to the heart, but
the cause of heart disease is wearing shoes.
"And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy
feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground." - Exodus
3:5
Taking off shoes is good ..... being barefoot is blessed.
Jan Drew
Richard Schultz
: 666 appears to fit you.
Off-topic.
-----
Richard Schultz sch...@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."
Jan Drew
"Richard Schultz" <sch...@mail.biu.ack.il> wrote in message
news:fm4gtb$lvg$1...@news.iucc.ac.il...
> In misc.health.alternative Jan Drew <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> : 666 appears to fit you.
>
> Off-topic.
LOL. Thy name hypocrite.
>
> -----
> Richard Schultz
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
It is one of satan's many sockpuppets (corporeal demons), unable to do
anything but satan's will.
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Zen Cohen
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
news:99869bc6-37d2-4a0b...@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> Jan Drew wrote:
>> "J666" <jea...@gmail.com>
>>
>> 666 appears to fit you.
>
> It is one of satan's many sockpuppets (corporeal demons), unable to do
> anything but satan's will.
Hey Andrew, I'm a sockpuppet of satan according to you. When I do volunteer
work at the AIDS hospice or I am assisting indigent or elderly people with
their problems, am I doing satan's will?
Richard Schultz
:> Off-topic.
: LOL. Thy name hypocrite.
The problem with making fun of you is that you are too stupid to know
when it is being done.
-----
Richard Schultz sch...@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time." -- The French Knight
J666
> It is one of satan's many sockpuppets (corporeal demons), unable to do
> anything but satan's will.
>
Chung is one of Satan's Shoe Puppets and therefore lies.
The Trinity in Hell is Satan, Satan's Shoe Puppets and last Satan's
Sock Puppets.
Wearing shoes and socks is Satan's way ..... being barefoot is God's
Way
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> friend Jan Drew <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> : neighbor "Richard Schultz" <sch...@mail.biu.ack.il> wrote:
> :> friend Jan Drew <jdre...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> :> : 666 appears to fit you.
>
> :> Off-topic.
>
> : LOL. Thy name hypocrite.
>
> The problem with making fun of you is that you are too stupid to know
> when it is being done.
Matthew 7:1-2 comes to mind here.
May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a
blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD
Hunger is wonderful :-)
It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.
Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish however:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Linda Lee
> > : neighbor "Richard Schultz" <schu...@mail.biu.ack.il> wrote:
> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
I hope you're not deliberately starving yourself to death. God gave
food to be eaten and herbs for medicine. Although starvation may put
you in an altered state of mind, it is not biblical for man to
continually starve himself.
If you disagree, show me where the Bible recommends anything in this
regard, except not to be a glutton or to fast for short periods. Only
God incarnate as Yeshua` the Messiah is deemed to have fasted for a
prolonged period, and he had angels ministering to him.
Linda Lee
> > friend Jan Drew <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > : neighbor "Richard Schultz" <schu...@mail.biu.ack.il> wrote:
> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
P.S. This (Matt. 5:6) has nothing to do with starving for food: Matt.
5:6 "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness:
for they shall be filled." It is referring to a longing for
righteousness; nothing to do with food or drink.
BusinessAc...@gmail.com
>
> If you disagree, show me where the Bible recommends anything in this
> regard, except not to be a glutton or to fast for short periods. Only
> God incarnate as Yeshua` the Messiah is deemed to have fasted for a
> prolonged period, and he had angels ministering to him.
Chung does not respond with scientific, medical or theological answers
but with his version of science, medicine and theology.
Linda Lee
Sounds like he's taking his own advice to starve, and that's why he's
so 'out of it'.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Because I am wonderfully hungry...
... I know I am not starving.
Your false witness is forgiven by me.
This simply shows that you are among the lost...
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp
... neither knowing or loving the truth:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth
The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ have stopped sinning though we
remain sinners...
... this is possible only because we have been forgiven by GOD:
http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/
May you wisely choose to be forgiven too by publicly declaring with
your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
J666
> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Chung's foolery in responding speaks loudly for itself.
Below is a picture of Chung:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/2007/03/29/head_up_ass.jpg
Linda Lee
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> neighborLindaLeewrote:
> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Eat some good food, fool.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Just did...
... weighed 12 ounces.
Know it is good (what GOD wanted me to eat) because want more of
it :-)
Would not want more of it had there been overeating:
> , fool.
Name-calling simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to
convict you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
You do not have much time left, dear Linda:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy
May you wisely choose to be right with GOD:
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Linda Lee
You weigh your food?
>
> Know it is good (what GOD wanted me to eat) because want more of
> it :-)
12 ounces actually sounds like quite a bit of food, so why are you
still hungry?
>
> Would not want more of it had there been overeating:
Overeating is bad; being continually hungry is also bad.
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeWise
>
> > , fool.
>
> Name-calling simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to
> convict you:
It was meant to show you you're being foolish.
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
> You do not have much time left, dear Linda:
How would you know? Keep starving yourself to death, and you'll have
about three weeks of time left.
Everyone reading this needs to say a quick prayer for dear convicted
neighbor Andrew Chung for him to realize he is misled and is
misleading others by what he claims to be practicing.
Linda Lee
That's just how I pictured he would be.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Yes.
Doing so makes me hungrier, so I know that GOD wants me to do this.
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
HE would not be blessing me if I were not doing what HE wants me to
do.
Truth is simple.
> > Know it is good (what GOD wanted me to eat) because want more of
> > it :-)
>
> 12 ounces actually sounds like quite a bit of food, so why are you
> still hungry?
The food was delicious. Malaysian rice and oyster pancake.
> >
> > Would not want more of it had there been overeating:
>
> Overeating is bad;
Eating until full, stomach stretched, thereby killing the hunger is
overeating:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHealthy
> being continually hungry is also bad.
Untrue.
Noone has ever died from hunger.
There is not a single death certificate out there listing hunger as
the cause of death.
Starvation is not hunger. Folks who are dying of anything including
starvation are not hungry.
Indeed, those who feel hungry can be assured that they are not dying.
"A laborer's appetite motivates him. His hunger drives him on." --
King Solomon (Proverb 16:26)
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeWise
> >
> > > , fool.
> >
> > Name-calling simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to
> > convict you:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> It was meant to show you you're being foolish.
"Name-calling is lying" -- Holy Spirit
Amen.
> > You do not have much time left, dear Linda:
>
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy
>
> How would you know?
The same way I knew that our dearly departed Bob (this one) Pastorio
did not have much time left.
> Keep starving yourself to death, and you'll have
> about three weeks of time left.
Started using the 2PD-OMER Approach more than 10 years ago.
> Everyone reading this needs to say a quick prayer for dear convicted
> neighbor Andrew Chung for him to realize he is misled and is
> misleading others by what he claims to be practicing.
All prayers are appreciated :-)
May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to
pray for your endangered soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForLinda
J666
>
> > Below is a picture of Chung:
>
>
> That's just how I pictured he would be.
It is a good picture of him. Not sure how he would weigh what he is
eating in that picture.
Here is a color picture of him:
Linda Lee
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> convicted neighborLindaLeewrote:
>
>
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighborLindaLeewrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
Luke is paraphrasing Matt. 5:6 "Blessed are they which do hunger and
thirst ***after righteousness:*** for they shall be filled." But then
you don't care, do you?
>
> HE would not be blessing me if I were not doing what HE wants me to
> do.
>
> Truth is simple.
You are simple.
>
> > > Know it is good (what GOD wanted me to eat) because want more of
> > > it :-)
>
> > 12 ounces actually sounds like quite a bit of food, so why are you
> > still hungry?
>
> The food was delicious. Malaysian rice and oyster pancake.
>
>
>
> > > Would not want more of it had there been overeating:
>
> > Overeating is bad;
>
> Eating until full, stomach stretched, thereby killing the hunger is
> overeating:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHealthy
>
> > being continually hungry is also bad.
>
> Untrue.
You're a liar and an abomination to all the millions of people of the
world who suffer from hunger every day.
>
> Noone has ever died from hunger.
>
> There is not a single death certificate out there listing hunger as
> the cause of death.
Are you crazy? That's a rhetorical question because you definitely
must be. Hundreds of thousands of people worldwide die from hunger
every day. It's called starvation, not hunger.
>
> Starvation is not hunger. Folks who are dying of anything including
> starvation are not hungry.
Because in the last stages of starvation, they start to shut down.
>
> Indeed, those who feel hungry can be assured that they are not dying.
>
> "A laborer's appetite motivates him. His hunger drives him on." --
> King Solomon (Proverb 16:26)
A laborer's hunger drives him because he works to eat, to put food on
the table. Whereas you work to make people starve themselves.
>
> > >http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeWise
>
> > > > , fool.
>
> > > Name-calling simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to
> > > convict you:
>
> > >http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> > It was meant to show you you're being foolish.
>
> "Name-calling is lying" -- Holy Spirit
>
> Amen.
You're a fool, a hypocrite, and a blind guide. Amen.
>
> > > You do not have much time left, dearLinda:
>
> > >http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy
>
> > How would you know?
>
> The same way I knew that our dearly departed Bob (this one) Pastorio
> did not have much time left.
Then that is EVIL of you to tell me "You do not have much time left,
dearLinda". You're evil and insane.
>
> > Keep starving yourself to death, and you'll have
> > about three weeks of time left.
>
> Started using the 2PD-OMER Approach more than 10 years ago.
>
> > Everyone reading this needs to say a quick prayer for dear convicted
> > neighbor Andrew Chung for him to realize he is misled and is
> > misleading others by what he claims to be practicing.
>
> All prayers are appreciated :-)
I hope they help as you appear hopeless.
>
> May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to
> pray for your endangered soul:
Sounds to me more like you're attempting to curse me, you accursed
one. That really isn't too bright of you as God blesses me when others
curse me. I can see why everyone harasses you here, although you're
not worth the effort.
Linda Lee
> On Jan 11, 5:01 pm,LindaLee
>
>
>
> > > Below is a picture of Chung:
>
>
> > That's just how I pictured he would be.
>
> It is a good picture of him. Not sure how he would weigh what he is
> eating in that picture.
Since he's totally full of sh-t, probably about two hundred pound
estimate would do.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Incorrect.
What Luke wrote is not a paraphrase of Matthew 5:6, but rather what
the Holy Spirit inspired a physician to write, which would concern
physical hunger rather than spiritual hunger.
While we remain in this world, there will be the "silver thread" as
described in Ecclesiastes that connect the soul with the body so that
spiritual hunger will feel the same as physical hunger allowing both
Matthew and Luke to describe the flip sides of the same coin.
May we, who have had our hearts made discerning by the Holy Spirit,
continue to pray for your perishing soul:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > convicted neighbor Linda Lee wrote:
> >
> > > > Below is a picture of Chung:
> >
> > > >http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/2007/03/29/hea...
> >
> > > That's just how I pictured he would be.
> >
> > It is a good picture of him. Not sure how he would weigh what he is
> > eating in that picture.
>
> Since he's totally full of sh-t, probably about two hundred pound
> estimate would do.
Your false witness is forgiven by me.
This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
May we, who have stopped sinning though we remains sinners, continue
to pray for your perishing soul:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForLinda
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Linda Lee
> Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Stuff your death threats, freak. I'm not afraid of your influence with
the Holy Spirit as I can see you have NONE. God is not going to put
people to death at your will because they've disagreed with or
insulted you.
Your quack advice is meant to harm and to kill and nothing else.
Perhaps someone here will report your obvious insanity in the
newsgroup to the medical board (they should), so they can revoke your
license, and you can be committed, get help, and be stopped from
harming others.
You're a demonized person whose insanity shows he's already coming
under God's judgment (See Daniel 4) and whose evil posts show everyone
just how evil he really is.
Linda Lee
P.S. Here is how reporting Chung may be done:
Here is the Georgia Medical Board's website:
http://www.state.ga.us/meb/bdsearch/index.html
Andrew Chung can be turned in anonymously for Unprofessional Conduct
(if not downright insanity plus his death threats):
"According to the Medical Practice Act, unprofessional conduct
includes "any departure from or failure to conform to the minimal
standards of acceptable and prevailing medical practice and shall also
include, but not be limited to the prescribing or use of drugs,
treatment or diagnostic procedures which are detrimental to the
patient as determined by the minimal standards of acceptable medical
care." "
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > convicted neighbor Linda Lee wrote:
> > > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
> > > > convicted neighbor Linda Lee wrote:
> > > > > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
> >
> > > > > > Below is a picture of Chung:
> >
> > > > > >http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/2007/03/29/hea...
> >
> > > > > That's just how I pictured he would be.
> >
> > > > It is a good picture of him. Not sure how he would weigh what he is
> > > > eating in that picture.
> >
> > > Since he's totally full of sh-t, probably about two hundred pound
> > > estimate would do.
> >
> > Your false witness is forgiven by me.
> >
> > This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
> > you:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> >
> > May we, who have stopped sinning though we remains sinners, continue
> > to pray for your perishing soul:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForLinda
>
"Dread nought those we can kill the body and do nothing more. Fear
HIM who can destroy your soul along with your body." -- LORD Jesus
Christ
Amen.
http://TruthRUS.org/DreadNought
> , freak.
Name-calling simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to
convict you:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
> I'm not afraid of your influence with
> the Holy Spirit as I can see you have NONE.
If the latter were the case, you would no longer exist.
Instead, it remains my choice to continue praying on your behalf.
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way, in Jesus' awesome name.
You will know exactly when my prayers are answered by HIM when you
feel hungrier than ever before.
May others, who have stopped sinning though they remain sinners, pray
similarly on your behalf:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForLinda
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Pastor Frank
news:47870a42$0$31772$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
the glory to God, He gives you the fortitude and desire to do all you are
boasting about.
--
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) hissed:
> >>> satan via another sockpuppet hissed:
> >>>
> >>> 666 appears to fit you.
> >>
> >> It is one of satan's many sockpuppets (corporeal demons), unable to do
> >> anything but satan's will.
> >
> > Hey Andrew, I'm a sockpuppet of satan according to you. When I do
> > volunteer work at the AIDS hospice or I am assisting indigent or elderly
> > people with their problems, am I doing satan's will?
>
> If you do it for your own glory and prestige, you certainly are.
Correct.
> Give the glory to God, He gives you the fortitude and desire to do all you are
> boasting about.
Corporeal demons do not have the free will to do anything but satan's
will. They are the whited sepulchres as written in Scripture that
Jesus taught HIS disciples about.
May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to
pray for those dear friends and neighbors who have been convicted by
the Holy Spirit:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
kingdoodlesquat
> will. They are the whited sepulchres as written in Scripture that
> Jesus taught HIS disciples about.
>
> May we, who have stopped sinning though we remain sinners, continue to
> pray for those dear friends and neighbors who have been convicted by
> the Holy Spirit:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts
>
I'm still not on you silly shit list Chungfraud!!! I'm unconvictable
remember!!!! Where's your almighty now? Oh that's right, still nowhere to be
seen.