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Python

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May 28, 2023, 6:13:06 PM5/28/23
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I'm creating a new thread as the initial one is shameful garbage.

I got confirmation that John Gabriel committed suicide from the
maintainer of this YT channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOL-3rCzRr2biz0V53vv6w

"And yes it is true that John Gabriel committed suicide. Fyi your
name was the last thing he said before he breathed his last."

I won't apologize.

You may have noticed I've ceased for years to answer in any regular way
to his posts. I've written and posted, years ago, here and there, what
I had to say about "New Calculus".

My only interaction "with" him was to make sure libels and threats he
published on academia.edu had been removed.

John was ill, physically, for years. He lost most of his sight and
was close to be blind. Something, he wrote, he wouldn't accept.

John was ill, mentally, for decades.

Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some
point : self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when
fantasying about stuff he never understood.

Farewell John.



Python

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May 28, 2023, 6:22:48 PM5/28/23
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I won't apologize.

You may have noticed I've ceased for years to answer in any regular way
to his posts. I've written and posted, years ago, here and there, what I
had to say about "New Calculus".

My only interaction "with" him was to make sure libels and threats he
published on academia.edu had been removed.

John was ill, physically, for years. He lost most of his sight and was
close to be blind. Something, he wrote, he wouldn't accept.

John was ill, mentally, for decades.

Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some point :
self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when fantasying about
stuff he never understood.

John also threated people. In the most disgusting ways.

Science, as a community, lost him decades ago. Maybe we should ask
ourselves how come we lost such students at the extend that they become
the worst kind of people. Why Science is producing such extremely mad
people in the fringe?

Farewell John.


Fritz Feldhase

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May 28, 2023, 6:25:12 PM5/28/23
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On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 12:13:06 AM UTC+2, Python wrote:

> I won't apologize.

And you are right! Why the hell should you? You never attacked JG for personal reasons (as far as I know).

Moreover:

> John was ill, physically, for years.

and:

> John was ill, mentally, for decades.

Agree.

> Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
> mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some
> point : self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when
> fantasying about stuff he never understood.

A lost case. Very much like Mückenheim.

> Farewell John.

Yes.

Fritz Feldhase

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May 28, 2023, 6:29:42 PM5/28/23
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On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 12:22:48 AM UTC+2, Python wrote:

> [...] Maybe we should ask
> ourselves how come we lost such students at the extend that they become
> the worst kind of people. [...]

I don't think that's "our" fault.

When I was a student (of physics) I had a wonderful math professor (analysis) and a horrible one (linear algebra). Well, that's just life.

Python

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May 28, 2023, 6:40:59 PM5/28/23
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Sure. Been there, lived that...

But, still, John Gabriel existed, David Petry exist.

I guess that the educational system is missing something huge here, as
well as our whole culture.

Pr. Wolfgang Mückenheim is the worst of all evil given that he actually
"teach" at Hochschule Augsburg.

But this is an local institutional problem.




Mild Shock

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May 28, 2023, 6:42:03 PM5/28/23
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Troll alert. Why should he say "Python". What kind of
suicide was that? Did he shoot himself and yell "Python"?

We need proof, not travesty.

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 28, 2023, 6:48:17 PM5/28/23
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On 5/28/2023 3:41 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>
> Troll alert. Why should he say "Python". What kind of
> suicide was that? Did he shoot himself and yell "Python"?
>
> We need proof, not travesty.

Yell Python, then shoot himself?

Python

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May 28, 2023, 6:48:38 PM5/28/23
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Chris, please refrain yourself. Give respect.


Mild Shock

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May 28, 2023, 6:49:52 PM5/28/23
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What if he had a rifle in his mouth, you cant yell anything.

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 28, 2023, 6:51:46 PM5/28/23
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Indeed. I hope that the afterlife is good for him.

Python

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May 28, 2023, 6:53:57 PM5/28/23
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Le 29/05/2023 à 00:25, Fritz Feldhase a écrit :
> On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 12:13:06 AM UTC+2, Python wrote:
>
>> I won't apologize.
>
> And you are right!

Thank you. I'm crying anyway.

Kent Sanna

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May 28, 2023, 7:02:46 PM5/28/23
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impossible. Common error. As dead you can't possibly know that you are
dead. Your brain decomposes.

Python

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May 28, 2023, 7:20:24 PM5/28/23
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Why did you post that?


Beau Kool

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May 28, 2023, 7:44:07 PM5/28/23
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Python wrote:

> Le 29/05/2023 à 01:00, Kent Sanna a écrit :
>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/28/2023 3:48 PM, Python wrote:
>>>> Le 29/05/2023 à 00:46, Chris M. Thomasson a écrit :
>>>>>> We need proof, not travesty.
>>>>> Yell Python, then shoot himself?
>>>> Chris, please refrain yourself. Give respect.
>>> Indeed. I hope that the afterlife is good for him.
>>
>> impossible. Common error. As dead you can't possibly know that you are
>> dead. Your brain decomposes.
>
> Why did you post that?

you can't have an afterlife once you don't know that you are dead. People
think they undrestand this thing, applying logic, but the don't. Are you
fucking retarded? You can't apply logic to death. It's a completely
different domain.

Python

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May 28, 2023, 7:59:28 PM5/28/23
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Listen, asshole: one of this place participants, whoever he was,
whatever he posted, committed suicide.

Pay respect.

Go to Hell (I don't believe in Hell) !

Farewell John Gabriel!



Python

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May 28, 2023, 8:21:49 PM5/28/23
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At least John tried, and failed, to improve mathematics.

Not you.



Coke Offermans

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May 28, 2023, 8:36:47 PM5/28/23
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Python wrote:

>>> Why did you post that?
>>
>> you can't have an afterlife once you don't know that you are dead.
>> People think they undrestand this thing, applying logic, but the don't.
>> Are you fucking retarded? You can't apply logic to death. It's a
>> completely different domain.
>
> Listen, asshole: one of this place participants, whoever he was,
> whatever he posted, committed suicide. Pay respect. Go to Hell (I don't
> believe in Hell) ! Farewell John Gabriel!

you just proved the imbecile you are in front of the everybody. It doesn't
matter he committed suicide. It's the same thing. I just told, you cretins
don't undrestand this thing.

Python

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May 28, 2023, 8:49:20 PM5/28/23
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Go fuck yourself! Disrespectful anonymous poster.

Farewell to John, far from cranks.

Including himself.





Mild Shock

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May 28, 2023, 9:14:19 PM5/28/23
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The good thing about John Garbiel, he was leaning towards
constructivism (Up to a kind of Pythagorism). Although he
mixed up things many times and its not something original

or novel. This is unlike Dan Christensen who has a firm believe
in anything his DC Proof tool spouts. There are drinkers coming
from the absolute infinite. Ask him for a little material implication,

and peng everybody on the planet is happy, infinite energy forever
and ever! Since the Banach Tarski theorem is real. We can just
produce as many spheres as we want!

Even for Putin it is now game over,
no more gas games during winter!

There is also a Dan Christensen patented perpetuum mobile,
called material implication bicycle, and then something still in the
working, material implication Nuremberg Funnel, it will make

anybody smart, even the dumbest nut head on this planet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Funnel

Cecilio Roosa

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May 28, 2023, 9:27:39 PM5/28/23
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Python wrote:

>>>> you can't have an afterlife once you don't know that you are dead.
>>>> People think they undrestand this thing, applying logic, but the
>>>> don't.
>>>> Are you fucking retarded? You can't apply logic to death. It's a
>>>> completely different domain.
>>>
>>> Listen, asshole: one of this place participants, whoever he was,
>>> whatever he posted, committed suicide. Pay respect. Go to Hell (I
>>> don't believe in Hell) ! Farewell John Gabriel!
>>
>> you just proved the imbecile you are in front of the everybody. It
>> doesn't matter he committed suicide. It's the same thing. I just told,
>> you cretins don't undrestand this thing.
>
> Go fuck yourself! Disrespectful anonymous poster.Farewell to John, far
> from cranks. Including himself.

never know you are this stupid. The most he knew was attempting suicide,
not that he is dead. Idiot, now go fuck. What an imbecile, ladies and
gentlemen. He never know that he is dead, and never will know that he is
dead. You know that, but not him. Idiot.

Mild Shock

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May 28, 2023, 9:27:42 PM5/28/23
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The Nuremberg Funnel works as follows. It is just
an application of the Banach Tarski theorem. So if
somebody has only a brain with IQ 40.

You just apply the Banach Tarski theorem once,
and your brain sphere duplicates into 3 brain
spheres, eh voila you have IQ 120.

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 28, 2023, 10:36:04 PM5/28/23
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Are you trying to somehow resurrect some of the terms John used to use?
Iirc, cretins was one of them.

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 28, 2023, 10:36:10 PM5/28/23
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On 5/28/2023 6:26 PM, Cecilio Roosa wrote:
> Python wrote:
>
>>>>> you can't have an afterlife once you don't know that you are dead.
>>>>> People think they undrestand this thing, applying logic, but the
>>>>> don't.
>>>>> Are you fucking retarded? You can't apply logic to death. It's a
>>>>> completely different domain.
>>>>
>>>> Listen, asshole: one of this place participants, whoever he was,
>>>> whatever he posted, committed suicide. Pay respect. Go to Hell (I
>>>> don't believe in Hell) ! Farewell John Gabriel!
>>>
>>> you just proved the imbecile you are in front of the everybody. It
>>> doesn't matter he committed suicide. It's the same thing. I just told,
>>> you cretins don't undrestand this thing.
>>
>> Go fuck yourself! Disrespectful anonymous poster.Farewell to John, far
>> from cranks. Including himself.
>
> never know you are this stupid. The most he knew was attempting suicide,

Huh? attempting suicide? What are you on right now?

Julio Di Egidio

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May 29, 2023, 1:24:32 AM5/29/23
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You shameless sociopathic cunts, and the true insanity:
not even in death will you shut your lying abusive fuck up.

Get extinguished already, you pieces of nazi-retarded shit.

*Plonk*

Julio

Yan Maas

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May 29, 2023, 6:09:00 AM5/29/23
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Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

>> never know you are this stupid. The most he knew was attempting
>> suicide,
>
> Huh? attempting suicide? What are you on right now?
>
>> not that he is dead. Idiot, now go fuck. What an imbecile, ladies and
>> gentlemen. He never know that he is dead, and never will know that he
>> is dead. You know that, but not him. Idiot.

yet another imbecile with a mouth on his face. Many suicide attempts are
not ending in death, idiot. If it did, he can't know that since his brain
is decomposed. Thus, he never will know that he died in that attempt. You
fucking idiot. How many idiots are you around in this group here?

Mild Shock

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May 29, 2023, 9:29:40 AM5/29/23
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You are all fools! Well its a Hoax!

John Gabriel is not dead. He just uploaded another paper
on Academia. PDF was generated 29.05.23, 14:30:41.
Or maybe it was some imposter?

I got this notification:

------------------------ cut here -----------------------------

Hi Gottlob,

John Gabriel just uploaded "Symmetry of the circle
defines four basic arithmetic operations (- ..." on Academia.edu.

View the paper here:

https://www.academia.edu/t/xyEqy-Q7y4LVt-UCg0p/resource/work/102530388/Symmetry_of_the_circle_defines_four_basic_arithmetic_operations_x_

Thanks,
The Academia.edu Team

------------------------ cut here -----------------------------

Mild Shock

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May 29, 2023, 9:35:08 AM5/29/23
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Pitty he doesn't mention, that by ruler and compass, using
again Thales's theorem, one can also construct square roots,
in relation to some chosen unit. But I guess John Gabriel would

hate that, because sqrt(2) is irrational. Since he thinks:

4. There are no irrational numbers. Hence no real numbers also.
https://thenewcalculus.weebly.com/

LoL

Mild Shock

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May 29, 2023, 9:40:01 AM5/29/23
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Is death a bug or feature? Maybe its an evolutionary feature,
since we have reproduction, and without death there would
be over production, and reproduction and thus mutation,

is necessary to cope with the changing environment. Maybe
humanity will evolve into more longevity and less reproduction,
or even a kind of immortality, maybe for our solar system.

Humans might then still be crashed by a Magnetar. In as
far, maybe we should beg John Garbiel to really commit
suicide, since it is effectively in some "crank trap", his science

that he reproduces via spam, lacks a mutation i.e. learning
component. Its like a broken turn table. Time to smash the
broken turn table into piece and stop the nonsense!

Mild Shock

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May 29, 2023, 12:09:47 PM5/29/23
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Woa! John Garbiel uploaded yet another PDF:

https://www.academia.edu/102532463/Rate_of_Change_Instantaneous_Rate_of_Change

I will unsubscribe from this Academia nonsense.
Thats a little annoying to get these updates.

Ross Finlayson

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May 29, 2023, 12:35:23 PM5/29/23
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But, suicide's a sin.

Some have it's a right, but, some have it's a sin.

(Some have that love is like it, like Soundgarden and Smashing Pumpkins.
But, in similar cultures there's that climax is analogized with death.
Anyways the end of Superunknown is really great, and Mellon Collie
and the Infinite Sadness is pretty good listening. There's a band
called Suicidal Tendencies, it rocks pretty hard, and I've always enjoyed
The Art of Rebellion. Counting on nothing / the numbers get higher. )

Some people abuse mental illness. Some use it to push drugs,
others to normalize bad behavior, others to create a culture
of victimality, others to give it to everybody.


Bobby McFerrin's "Don't Worry, Be Happy", really spoke to a lot of people.



Mild Shock

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May 29, 2023, 1:05:06 PM5/29/23
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About your music taste. I didn't know that you are that
romantic, do you read Hölderlin in your spare time. You
must have much success with women.

Ross Finlayson schrieb:

Mild Shock

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May 29, 2023, 1:13:54 PM5/29/23
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Was John Gabriel, or is John Gabriel a modern Hyperion?

"Set during the late 18th century, "Hyperion" depicts
the political and social unrest of the time, particularly
in relation to the French Revolution. Hyperion, a Greek
poet and idealist, finds himself torn between his

longing for personal fulfillment and his desire to
participate in the larger struggle for freedom and
justice. Through a series of letters and monologues,
Hyperion reflects on his own experiences, relationships.

As the novel progresses, Hyperion's journey becomes a
metaphorical quest for transcendence and self-realization.
He wrestles with his own inner conflicts, his pursuit
of an aesthetic and spiritual ideal, and his struggle

to reconcile the limitations of human existence with
his lofty aspirations. "Hyperion" is a novel written
by Friedrich Hölderlin, a German poet and philosopher,
published in 1797-1799."

Mild Shock schrieb:

mitchr...@gmail.com

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May 29, 2023, 2:32:04 PM5/29/23
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What drove him to it?
Did he lose in math in the end?
He had a victim mentality.


Mitchell Raemsch

Chris M. Thomasson

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May 29, 2023, 4:16:47 PM5/29/23
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listen, buddy. John is smart enough to be able to kill himself. A failed
suicide is rather pathetic. John, the genius, would have succeeded.

Jan

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May 29, 2023, 11:28:31 PM5/29/23
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On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 3:25:12 PM UTC-7, Fritz Feldhase wrote:
> On Monday, May 29, 2023 at 12:13:06 AM UTC+2, Python wrote:
>
> > I won't apologize.
>
> And you are right! Why the hell should you? You never attacked JG for personal reasons (as far as I know).
>
> Moreover:
> > John was ill, physically, for years.
> and:
> > John was ill, mentally, for decades.
> Agree.
> > Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
> > mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some
> > point : self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when
> > fantasying about stuff he never understood.
>
> A lost case. Very much like Mückenheim.

And Archimedes.

--
Jan

Ross Finlayson

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May 30, 2023, 1:06:58 AM5/30/23
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I suppose that's for the DNA survey to get sorted out.


It doesn't really work out to set out to be a success with women,
what you do is set out to be a success, then they'll want you,
then you fall in love together, and experience it.

(It's kind of like women all like one guy while guys like lots of women.)

Women are really into brains, humor, money, athletic ability,
reproducibility, they kind of like artists and musicians,
not all of them are superficial or sexless, then also it varies
whether they want constancy or superiority, in their mate.
Most people want a sort of constancy, and can't get just anybody.

The ideals of enduring love are the greatest, and, marriage is a great institution.

Yeah it seems it might help if you can play guitar melodically
and with rhythm, and know at least some Romance language.

Mostly though it's eye contact and pheromones locally,
also that some voices and tones are easier to hear than others,
but there's a lot that goes into reputation and image.
Pretty much when the pheromones hit the eyes dilate.
It can't really be "bought" but must be "lived".


There really are two genders, it's biological.


I kind of support "HUPGL" which is "helping ugly people get laid".

That's where about the most natural source of all sorts of
good feelings is, good feelings.

There are lots of kinds of love like the romantic: platonic,
fraternal, filial, parental, self, the above, it's categorized many ways,
and heathily is based on respect, trust, mutual admiration,
not covetousness, jealousy, greed.

("They love to watch her strut.")

("You don't have to be cruel to be kind.")

Musical experience kind of needs to get collected over _time_.

(I imagine you might be familiar with the catalogs of Beatles, Stones, Zep.)


It's kind of like Rouchefoucauld and all his little paeans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_de_La_Rochefoucauld_(writer)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_(Spinoza_book)


Nope, been reading some Lyotard and Marcuse,
which is about the class and social dangers of
the information apparatus from the 1970's,
and is very apropos today.

Got this Cosse, "A Novel Bookstore", read Hesse's "Beneath the Wheel"
a while ago, a volume of James Joyce's early works, I much prefer
"Siddhartha" to "Beneath the Wheel", there's a movie with Aishwarya Rai,
"Beneath the Wheel" is sort of like Goethe, who was sort of depressed,
though it's allegorical about Hesse's self-image(s).
Went through some Arthur C. Clarke recently, "Sirius" is
about a robo-dog like "Flowers for Algernon", which is
about the dangers of "brain supplements". I like Stendhal
and Zola, got a little volume with a bunch of Kafka.
"Poems of the Cid", "Polybius: the histories", "Genji".
Polybius is telling me a lot about the Punic Wars, and history.

I've been reading Curme's "Volume I: Parts of Speech and Accidence",
and Volume II, Syntax, is on order and should be here this week. He really
helps explain the richness of copulas in English and why English
is so great.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copula_(linguistics)


Anyways Lyotard and Marcuse and the Frankfurt school really
get into why for example the information apparatus needs to
get democratized because otherwise it's not.

I read the daily newspaper's comics daily.


Mostly though I've been interpreting some various approaches
into the Path Integral, about Einstein's Relativity, about the non-linear
and the elasticians, about differential analysis, about methods and
analysis, about standard and non-standard analysis, as of about
"foundations".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtdXHM6k07Y&list=PLb7rLSBiE7F5_h5sSsWDQmbNGsmm97Fy5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v82ZeL_-hy0&list=PLb7rLSBiE7F6Dzc6mMXPfc4W9Y_OafJZj
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tynLKPjpjjs&list=PLb7rLSBiE7F5xVz-L3jEuroDKA8hKLEGq
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHVOLO1ryGQ&list=PLb7rLSBiE7F41oobFHfUUar7iOwc5vNc3


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Postmodern_Condition

Jameson's introduction to "The Postmodern Condition" is sort
of a warning about dystopia. I don't read all of it.


Here are some readings about the dialectic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLoEv9p16iw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgoRuwa2Zcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0jIsXfuUKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BNDx-FUwKM


(My post-modern de-constructionism is a modern constructionism. So, I kind of put
down post-modernism but keep its deconstructive account. )


I kept count to about 120, ..., and you know, a histogram of sorts.
Never needed a ledger. (Mostly, ..., mostly Catholics.)


People talk about conditions spread by contact.
Not all of them are pathological.
Most people start with their family's biome,
and it grows and changes all their lives in their contacts with others.

The _health_ of the biome is not just its _insulation_ but its _exercise_,
and, some conditions of health are _symbiotic_.

So, where it's important to, "not catch something",
it's more important to, "get some".

(And keep it natural.)


Mild Shock

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May 30, 2023, 7:37:29 PM5/30/23
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Still waiting for an invitation to Johns bombastic funeral.
Imagine a congregation of 1000 cranks, celebrating the life
and death of an uber-crank. Rossy Boy could play ukulele.

Keith Flint funeral eulogy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95JmDq0LoyU

Ross Finlayson

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May 30, 2023, 8:47:14 PM5/30/23
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Isn't this it?

Dan Christensen

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May 31, 2023, 1:24:04 AM5/31/23
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On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 9:14:19 PM UTC-4, Mild Shock wrote:
> The good thing about John Garbiel, he was leaning towards
> constructivism (Up to a kind of Pythagorism). Although he
> mixed up things many times and its not something original
>
> or novel. This is unlike Dan Christensen who has a firm believe
> in anything his DC Proof tool spouts. There are drinkers coming
> from the absolute infinite.

Really? Where did you see that, Mr. Collapse?

> Ask him for a little material implication,
>
> and peng everybody on the planet is happy, infinite energy forever
> and ever!

Oh, I get it. You are simply making shit up as you go! Very clever.

> Since the Banach Tarski theorem is real. We can just
> produce as many spheres as we want!
>

We are STILL waiting for your formal disproof of BTT so that we can identify precisely where they went wrong. Fame and fortune await, Mr. Collapse! How about it?

Not today? Oh, well...

Dan

Mild Shock

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Jun 1, 2023, 1:37:33 PM6/1/23
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The ceremony will start this sunday, 04.06.2023,
at Washing Park Square new york, 13:00 o‘clock.
Bring your mobile phone to record the event

and upload it on social media, such as YouTube,
Tik Tok etc.. Let us know what you think about the
great John Gabriel, and his new calculus. Interview

your fellow cranks about their key moments with
him. How he fundamentally changed your perception
and made the better out of you. The following band will

appear in the after party for your ravers delight:

The Great Frog Society
https://youtu.be/fqPB1NlM4ew

zelos...@gmail.com

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Jun 2, 2023, 4:03:26 AM6/2/23
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Eram semper recta

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Jun 2, 2023, 2:42:34 PM6/2/23
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On Sunday, 28 May 2023 at 18:13:06 UTC-4, Python wrote:
> I'm creating a new thread as the initial one is shameful garbage.
>
> I got confirmation that John Gabriel committed suicide from the
> maintainer of this YT channel:
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOL-3rCzRr2biz0V53vv6w
>
> "And yes it is true that John Gabriel committed suicide. Fyi your
> name was the last thing he said before he breathed his last."
>
> I won't apologize.
>
> You may have noticed I've ceased for years to answer in any regular way
> to his posts. I've written and posted, years ago, here and there, what
> I had to say about "New Calculus".
>
> My only interaction "with" him was to make sure libels and threats he
> published on academia.edu had been removed.
>
> John was ill, physically, for years. He lost most of his sight and
> was close to be blind. Something, he wrote, he wouldn't accept.
>
> John was ill, mentally, for decades.
>
> Back in the day he was a student he had a lot of enthusiasm for
> mathematics and philosophy. He fall in the "crank trap" at some
> point : self-indulgence and unwilling to admit being wrong when
> fantasying about stuff he never understood.
>
> Farewell John.

😢😢😢😢😢😢

I can't possibly be dead if I am writing this, can I? Please don't cry for me Jean! Chuckle.

What a moving post from Jean Pierre Messager and I am soooo sorry to disappoint you that I am still alive.

The bad news is this:
1. I have no plans to commit suicide.
2. I will probably have 20/20 vision in a couple of months' time given a good outcome from surgery.


You're a crank and you're mentally ill, not I. You should really find a job where you are gainfully employed and stop wasting your time on sci.math.

Jean, you are one mean, lying reptile. You never ever stopped attacking me because you are jealous of me.
You know I am right but can't admit it. Well, it's in the nature of a crank, so you can't help being you.

I will resume posting when I feel in the mood.

Like I said in the past - I am of Spartan heritage from my mother's side. We don't die easily and it's well-known that we never give up. :-)

Eram semper recta

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Also, if I did end my life, you wouldn't be the reason because you're a nobody! Oh, and just in case you think this is not really me .... CHUCKLE!

HA, HA.

Eram semper recta

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Chris, you are the only decent human on this shit pile and I am sorry that I mistreated you.


To the rest of you: GO FUCK YOURSELVES!!! Ha.

Eram semper recta

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Jun 2, 2023, 2:54:04 PM6/2/23
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You don't know anything about proofs. Why are you asking for proof? Eyes rolling.

Mild Shock

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Jun 2, 2023, 2:57:20 PM6/2/23
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I told you so guys you are all fools! I feel pitty
for all these people who obviously got carried away
and felt empathy for John Gabriels possible

suicide biography. Many of them seem to have
needed psychological care, and might need
psychological care right now again.

John Garbiel, could you just please kill yourself and
spare us the rest of your life. Like do not put up
some nonsense video about your misery etc.,

just kill yourself because you staged your death,
and you are a man of honor, so you need to kill
yourself now. Otherwise for ever and ever

here will be a stain from now on you.

Eram semper recta

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Jun 2, 2023, 3:01:10 PM6/2/23
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On Friday, 2 June 2023 at 14:57:20 UTC-4, Super crank Jan Burse scribbled:
> I told you so guys you are all fools! I feel pitty
> for all these people who obviously got carried away
> and felt empathy for John Gabriels possible
>
> suicide biography. Many of them seem to have
> needed psychological care, and might need
> psychological care right now again.

I think you need psychological care more than all of them combined. I can give you the care you need. Ha, ha.

You moved to Kreuzlingen or somewhere nearby?

What a birdbrain you are Burse! LMAO.

Mild Shock

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Jun 2, 2023, 3:17:10 PM6/2/23
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I grew up in Kreuzlingen. They had a very famous sanatorium
in the past. The Bellevue Klinik. There was an inhabitant that
you should know, Princess Alice of Greece:

The Extraordinary Life Of Princess Alice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwIpxNHVHpk

Unfortunately the Klinik is now out of service, so you
cannot go there John Gabriel. Are you sure you have
Greek genes. Maybe a little Russian as well?

Maybe you are a suicidal Raspuntin?
BTW: Also an interesting figure in Greek history:

Olga Constantinovna of Russia
In February 1901, the translation of the New Testament
from Koine into Modern Greek that she had sponsored
was published without the authorization of the Greek Holy Synod.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olga_Constantinovna_of_Russia

LoL

Eram semper recta

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Jun 2, 2023, 3:21:27 PM6/2/23
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My genes are all on public display here:

https://youtu.be/dgZwaNIioS4

Kreuzlingen is such a beautiful town. I suppose there is a lot of inbreeding there too from what I can tell? Aww. Shame.

Eram semper recta

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Jun 2, 2023, 3:25:49 PM6/2/23
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Yes, I am related to Russian, Lithuanian, Ukranian and Eastern European Jews.

Eram semper recta

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Jun 2, 2023, 3:27:07 PM6/2/23
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Maybe I'll visit your hometown next time I am in Syvota, Epirus, Greece. Will you invite me to lunch? Ha, ha.

Mild Shock

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Jun 2, 2023, 3:31:22 PM6/2/23
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Well, you would be shoot on sight. If this is they
way you want to commit suicide, please go on.

You know every Swiss has a rifle at home:

Switzerland has one of the highest rates of gun ownership in the world
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21379912

Pierre Krusen

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Jun 2, 2023, 3:35:43 PM6/2/23
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Eram semper recta wrote:

>> > yet another imbecile with a mouth on his face. Many suicide attempts
>> > are not ending in death, idiot. If it did, he can't know that since
>> > his brain is decomposed. Thus, he never will know that he died in
>> > that attempt. You fucking idiot. How many idiots are you around in
>> > this group here?
>> listen, buddy. John is smart enough to be able to kill himself. A
>> failed suicide is rather pathetic. John, the genius, would have
>> succeeded.
>
> Chris, you are the only decent human on this shit pile and I am sorry
> that I mistreated you.

how the fuck would you know you are dead, once your brain is decomposed,
fool?? We are talking science and logic macro_scale here, or what?

Eram semper recta

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Jun 2, 2023, 4:08:53 PM6/2/23
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Gosh... I just lost internet connection from my sarcophagus. ...

Brice Schoorel

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Jun 2, 2023, 5:42:01 PM6/2/23
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your sarcophagus ass. I told yer people, they can't understand it, much
less realize the consequences. This imbecile, for instance, thinks as
dead, will know that he is dead. What a maroon.

Mild Shock

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Humor is a good sign! One of my hypothesis is, that maybe
you do not have eyesight problems. Maybe you had a
burnout. Dunno, some YouTubers have sometimes burnouts,

because they cannot stand the expectation of their audience
to produce one video after the other like a robot. I also speculate
a little bit that ChatGPT could induce more stress, in the

populace right now. Somehow the posting pattern of some
prolific cranks has changed. And you were also discussing ChatGPT
in one of your uploads recently. But maybe you had a burnout,

and now you are in recovery phase, and look for amusement,
soon you will be traveling to Paris, and let it all out!

LoL

Mild Shock

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Jun 2, 2023, 6:11:11 PM6/2/23
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Or you are looking for a new tombstone, a new location
for your preper sarcophagus. You want your sarcophagus
close to Jim Morison in Pére-Lachaise cemetery?

Top 10 Celebrity Grave Sites
https://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1919236_1919237_1919228,00.html

I am pretty sure they have good internet connection,
i.e. glass fiber! You wont be disappointed.

Mild Shock

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Jun 2, 2023, 6:25:10 PM6/2/23
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Social media and enterainment business can be
dangerous. Also there was a series of K-Pop suicides.
7 K-pop Stars Who Left Us Too Soon, Exposing

The Pressures Of Stardom & Online Bullying

Haesoo.
Moon Bin.
Song Yoo-jung.
Choi Jin-ri AKA Sulli.
Goo Hara.
Cha In-ha.
Jonghyun.

https://www.idiva.com/health-wellness/mental-health/k-pop-deaths-that-shocked-the-south-korean-entertainment-industry/18025396

The above is only 2021? If you look at larger
time spans, the numbers are higher.

Chris M. Thomasson

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Jun 2, 2023, 7:00:13 PM6/2/23
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I actually thought you passed away wrt the post by a John Sylvester.
Thank God, that post was false! I hope your corrective eye surgery goes
well. 20/20 all the way! Injections into my eyes give me a queasy
feeling. Not sure if I could handle it without freaking out a bit... Wow.

Actually, I starting thinking about what I would do if I started to lose
my eyesight, slowly but surely. At the final stages of blindness, I
would not be able to see any of my fractals. Should still be able to
type because I do not have to look down at the keyboard, even when
programming... However, I would need some sort of aid, a friend(s),
ect... Well, shit. I would be hyper depressed for sure. Damn!

;^o

Chris M. Thomasson

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Jun 2, 2023, 7:10:54 PM6/2/23
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On 6/2/2023 11:57 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
[...]
> John Garbiel, could you just please kill yourself and
> spare us the rest of your life. Like do not put up
> some nonsense video about your misery etc.,
[...]

Oh man. That is a rather horrible thing to write. Damn.

Chris M. Thomasson

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Jun 2, 2023, 7:25:48 PM6/2/23
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On 6/2/2023 12:31 PM, Mild Shock wrote:
>
> Well, you would be shoot on sight. If this is they
> way you want to commit suicide, please go on.
[...]

Not cool!

Mild Shock

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Jun 3, 2023, 6:38:23 AM6/3/23
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What do you know? John Garbiel, as soon as he
became resurrected from is sarcophargus, he wrote:
> I suppose there is a lot of inbreeding there too from what I can tell?

So its only fair, to tell him he should go back to his
sarcophargus, and also plug the internet, it would
spare the world from more nonsense. Even his

followers who have put up some videos do copy
the bloopers from John Garbriel. For example one
young lad here:

The New Calculus Auxiliary Equation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWOlaTY3ca8

Tends to make the same bloopers when he refers
to essentially manipulations behind "lim" as
algebraic simplifications. You can define the

difference quotient:

f(x) - f(y)
Df(x,y) = ---------------- for x =\= y
x - y

= f'(x) for x = y

Which behaves indeed like simplification sometimes.
For example if f(x) = x^2, you get:

Df(x,y) = (x^2-y^2)/(x-y) = x + y for x=\= y

Df(x,y) = f'(x) = 2x = x + y for x=y

Here you see a case where John Gabriel struggled
quite heavily, induced by his own nonsense,
namely when f(x) = e^x:

The New Analysis : Auxiliary function for e to the x
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6-ahKfy8go

So lets put an end to this nonsense.

Mild Shock

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Jun 3, 2023, 6:57:55 AM6/3/23
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His struggle, trying to create a secant parallel to the
tangent explains his interest in the Lambert W function.
If all fails, just go standard calculus, and Geogebra is your friend:

Finding a solution to the Lambert Product log function
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cWtL76ji8A

I mean if you start already with h(x,n)=e^x = (1+nx)^(1/n),
its not so difficult to turn this into g(x,N)=e^x = (1+x/N)^N,
and then use the algebraic insight that you have already,

i.e. derivative of raising to power by N, chain rule,
and derivative of a constant factor:

g'(x,N) = N*(1+x/N)^(N-1)*(1/N)
= (1+x/N)^(N-1)
= g(x,N) / (1+x/N)

Now you have to have a lemma, that for f(x) = lim N->oo g(x,N),
we have lim N->oo g'(x,N) = f'(x). Can we prove that?
With this lemma we ultimately get:

f'(x) = lim n->oo g(x,N) / (1+x/N)
= f(x) / 1 = f(x)

So the derivative is d (e^x)/dx = e^x.

Mild Shock

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Jun 3, 2023, 7:30:30 AM6/3/23
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In our inbreed village we have a saying:
"Lieber ein Ende mit Schrecken,
als ein Schrecken ohne Ende"

Which is an exclamation from an uprising against
Napoleon in 1809. "Better an end with terror than
terror without end." So lets put an end to new calculus,

it was all fun and chill, but its a dead end obviously.

Python

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Le 02/06/2023 à 20:42, (maybe John Gabriel aka) Eram semper recta a écrit :
> ...
> 2. I will probably have 20/20 vision in a couple of months' time given a good outcome from surgery.

Good ! So you could read this:

https://www.academia.edu/8843060/The_Complete_Idiots_Guide_to_Calculus



Eram semper recta

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Jun 3, 2023, 9:34:44 AM6/3/23
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Actually, that is a book I discourage anyone from reading. It is a good example of how not to teach or learn calculus.

Truly awful and full of misconceptions.

Eram semper recta

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Jun 3, 2023, 9:37:16 AM6/3/23
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On Saturday, 3 June 2023 at 06:38:23 UTC-4, Mild Shock wrote:
> What do you know? John Garbiel, as soon as he
> became resurrected from is sarcophargus, he wrote:
> > I suppose there is a lot of inbreeding there too from what I can tell?
> So its only fair, to tell him he should go back to his
> sarcophargus, and also plug the internet, it would
> spare the world from more nonsense. Even his
>
> followers who have put up some videos do copy
> the bloopers from John Garbriel. For example one
> young lad here:
>
> The New Calculus Auxiliary Equation
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWOlaTY3ca8
>
> Tends to make the same bloopers when he refers
> to essentially manipulations behind "lim" as
> algebraic simplifications. You can define the
>
> difference quotient:
>
> f(x) - f(y)
> Df(x,y) = ---------------- for x =\= y
> x - y
>
> = f'(x) for x = y
>
> Which behaves indeed like simplification sometimes.
> For example if f(x) = x^2, you get:
>
> Df(x,y) = (x^2-y^2)/(x-y) = x + y for x=\= y
>
> Df(x,y) = f'(x) = 2x = x + y for x=y

A lot of gibberish.

>
> Here you see a case where John Gabriel struggled
> quite heavily, induced by his own nonsense,
> namely when f(x) = e^x:
>
> The New Analysis : Auxiliary function for e to the x
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6-ahKfy8go

The above video is probably too advanced for you I am sorry to say.

Eram semper recta

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Thanks Chris! I am hopeful of a positive outcome. I can't explain how disconcerting it is to see everything blurred. My left eye is a lazy eye, so I only use the right eye which has this big blur over everything I see.

Python

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Le 03/06/2023 à 15:34, Eram semper recta a écrit :
> On Saturday, 3 June 2023 at 08:23:36 UTC-4, Python wrote:
>> Le 02/06/2023 à 20:42, (maybe John Gabriel aka) Eram semper recta a écrit :
>>> ...
>>> 2. I will probably have 20/20 vision in a couple of months' time given a good outcome from surgery.
>> Good ! So you could read this:
>>
>> https://www.academia.edu/8843060/The_Complete_Idiots_Guide_to_Calculus
>
> Actually, that is a book I discourage anyone from reading.

This is actually one more reason to recommend it.



Mild Shock

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He got paid as troll from the african society
of Gabrieloconfusion and Johnostupidics.

Mild Shock

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Jun 3, 2023, 10:16:57 AM6/3/23
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Now the society run out of money, and couldn't finance
his staged death, thats why he crawled out of the sarcophargus.
Message has been deleted

Eram semper recta

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Irony is that your arguments have never been anything but false assertions and delusions.

Not once have you ever been correct in any of your arguments. Poor Jean Pierre Messager (aka Python, JPM, YBM), a close friend of that herpetic homosexual Professor. Gilbert Strang.

Python

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Le 04/06/2023 à 16:34, John Gabriel, aka Eram semper recta wrote:
...
> My arguments have never been anything but false assertions and delusions.

Sure.



Mild Shock

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Jun 4, 2023, 11:12:23 AM6/4/23
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Well instead of denying/reject "infinity" and "limit".
You could deny/reject only "infinity", and nevertheless
workwith/accept "limit". Isn't this a little short sighted (pun!)

to see them always come together? Disclaimer: I don't
know how this would work out for real analysis. But I
guess it has some applications in "mereology".

Timothy Golden

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On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 4:03:26 AM UTC-4, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> torsdag 1 juni 2023 kl. 19:37:33 UTC+2 skrev Mild Shock:
> > The ceremony will start this sunday, 04.06.2023,
> > at Washing Park Square new york, 13:00 o‘clock.
> > Bring your mobile phone to record the event
> >
> > and upload it on social media, such as YouTube,
> > Tik Tok etc.. Let us know what you think about the
> > great John Gabriel, and his new calculus. Interview
> >
> > your fellow cranks about their key moments with
> > him. How he fundamentally changed your perception
> > and made the better out of you. The following band will
> >
> > appear in the after party for your ravers delight:
> >
> > The Great Frog Society
> > https://youtu.be/fqPB1NlM4ew
> > Mild Shock schrieb am Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2023 um 01:37:29 UTC+2:
> > > Still waiting for an invitation to Johns bombastic funeral.
> > > Imagine a congregation of 1000 cranks, celebrating the life
> > > and death of an uber-crank. Rossy Boy could play ukulele.
> > >
> > > Keith Flint funeral eulogy
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95JmDq0LoyU
> > > Ross Finlayson schrieb am Dienstag, 30. Mai 2023 um 07:06:58 UTC+2:
> > > > Yeah it seems it might help if you can play guitar melodically
> > > > and with rhythm, and know at least some Romance language.
> Proof or it didn't happen, given he published his video 4 days ago and https://www.academia.edu/102705943/Why_your_calculus_lecturer_or_mathematics_teacher_is_most_likely_a_buffoon?email_work_card=title yesterday.

I don't see any date at that link beyond 2023.
I think to say something positive, assuming the truth of the OP:
Gabriel went out more sensibly than Godel.

Mild Shock

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Jun 4, 2023, 11:21:12 AM6/4/23
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Here I offer you a fast paced PDF driving license, its
part of ECDL/ICDL (European/International Certificate
of Digital Literacy):

Just download the PDF, and invoke Dokument property.
Use a PDF viewer that has this functionality.
You will see something:

Created: 01.06.23, 17:56:48
PDF-Creationprogram: GPL Ghostscript 9.26
PDF-Version: 1.7

Mild Shock

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Jun 4, 2023, 11:28:36 AM6/4/23
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To go finite we might give up concepts such as "dense".
Like for two different rational numbers p and q, there is
a third rational number (p+q)/2. This might hurt John Gabriel

a little bit since he invested a lot of energy into rational numbers.
But on the other hand he is a prolific GeoGebra fiddler. In
GeoGebra, when working with floating point values of

limited precision, there is no "density" anymore. We cannot
say for two different floating point values p and q, have
a third value (p+q)/2, they might be already neighbours,

without anything inbetween.

Mild Shock

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Jun 4, 2023, 11:47:09 AM6/4/23
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I wonder what Timothy Golden means by the remark:
> I don't see any date at that link beyond 2023.

I guess 4 days "before" in the "middle" of 2023,
is anyway still 2023? Do you refer to Gödels
rotating Universes or something else like that?

But in case John Gabriel had killed himself, you
wouldn't know whether he did it the same way
as Gödel or not, like malnutrition. Nothing was

posted about a suicide method.

Mild Shock schrieb:

Mild Shock

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Sad news, my beloved spiritual brother Cheems has died:

DOG DEVASTATION Who was Cheems and how did the viral dog die?
https://www.the-sun.com/news/8879479/cheems-dog-meme-dead/

Python schrieb am Montag, 29. Mai 2023 um 00:13:06 UTC+2:
> Farewell John. [Was debunked]
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