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Guass163

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Aug 14, 2009, 3:54:20 PM8/14/09
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I have spoken to Musatov's ISPs. They will ban him.
All we need to do is collect examples of his abuse here.
But I don't have much further time to spend on this
Could others please help by postng links to posts
that are excellent examples of his abuse.

MeAmI.org

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I would love for you to attempt to do this. I am civil. I am
respectful. I do not swear. I search for truth. I explore mathematics
as a free citizen.

There is not a single bit of evidence of abuse because evidence does
not exist for that which does not exist.

You speak of banning me, but not the one who follows me around
slurring racial epitaphs in my name and talking of vulgar unnatural
sexual acts involving my mother?

I welcome you to do as you will.

Musatov

hdbanannah

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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/dde0867c9f071a34?hl=en#
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/c3ec0f630143a42f?hl=en#
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/a7092d3595ee65ab?hl=en#

These are the main links on the first page to completely irrelevant
and sometimes vulgar things said by Mustaov. If you want his
pseudomathematical theories, you're going to have to find someone else
to collect them for you.

hdbanannah

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Guass163

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No, I have never before replied to you. I am simply a sci.math reader
who does not appreciate seeing you abuse this group to the point that
its life is threatened. I've been on sci.math for a long time and I've
never seen any one person abuse the group to such extremes. If you
stop
this abuse now I will stop any further action against you. If you
don't
I can guarantee you that your internet access will be terminated for
TOS violations (including your Blackberry access).


KMF

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KMF

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bert

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Your abuse is of course not of any individual, but
of the group users as a whole. Your postings are
voluminous and inconsequential.
--

KMF

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KMF

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MeAmI.org

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Bacle

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MeAmI.org

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And in this case I can guarantee a personal civil proceedung against
you for defamation and libel in the State of California.

What is your name, Sir?

My name is Martin Musatov.

I would also love the opprtunity to correct RIM if there exists one
negligable enough in their legal staff to bow to your request and
violate my First Amendment Rights.

MeAmI.org

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Aug 14, 2009, 7:23:19 PM8/14/09
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Abuse of a group is not possible if a group consists of individuals
and no individual is abused.

Quid Pro Quo

Bacle

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>
>
> bert wrote:
> > On 14 Aug, 20:59, "MeAmI.org"
> <Me...@vzw.blackberry.net> wrote:
> > > On Aug 14, 12:54 pm, Guass163
> <gauss...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have spoken to Musatov's ISPs. They will ban
> him.
> > > > All we need to do is collect examples of his
> abuse here.
> > > > But I don't have much further time to spend on
> this
> > > > Could others please help by postng links to
> posts
> > > > that are excellent examples of his abuse.
> > >
> > > I would love for you to attempt to do this. I am
> civil. I am
> > > respectful.

The crux of the issue as I see it is this:
You want to have the benefits of posting here,
but you want no obligations. You want to take
without giving back, and you do not want to
deal with the consequences of what you do.
All you want is your benefit, at any expense.
You are being a parasite and a thug. And I
believe you would not do that in any other
group. This shows contempt on your part.


So, no, your not respectful. Repeatedly posting half-baked ideas is disrespectful. It distracts time and resources from others. If each one of us were to do it, the site would crash. So we don't do it for that reason.
Because, among other reasons, it strains the resources of the site.
And time and resources in this group are finite and limited. You are consuming a disproportionally large percentage of resources.
Do you truly believe that you have around 40-50
good ideas per day?. Why do you post that often
then?. On top of that, most of your posts have
nothing to see with mathematics. And this is
a mathematics site. It is not your personal
playground. It is disrespectful to use this as
your personal playground. And it ruins it for
others.

Tell me honestly: would you like it if I posted
to _your_ blog 100 times every day, with whatever
came to my head?. I may just end up doing it. So
get ready for a barrage of garbage. You will then
be at the receiving end. For once.

You post anything that comes to your head, and
do not bother to post it in clear ways. You
believe we all have to adapt to your language.
Or otherwise , your posts have nothing to see
with the thread in which you post. You use this
site as your personal drawing board, without
considering others' needs and feelings. THAT IS
INSULTING. Do you get it?. You can insult someone
with actions, and not just with words. Is that
really so difficult to understand?

On top of that, your repeated biblical quotes
are in bad taste and off-topic. Religion is
personal. Keep it to yourself and don't bother
us with your personal beliefs. Save them for
soc. religion or somewhere else.

On top of that, there are many posts of yours
using terms like faggot, and many insulting references
to, e.g., jews.


> I do not swear. I search for truth.

Spare the sanctimony. You thing that insults are
restricted to swearing. Musatov, the self-styled
outsider and rebel, cringing when he reads a cuss
word. And, as has been explained to you REPEATEDLY
it is not what you do, it is how you do it. You use
this site as your personal drawing board, to explore
your ideas. This site is not designed for that, and
cannot effectively withstand this use by anyone.
So you are ruining it for everyone else. But you
care about no one but yourself.

I bet you have not stopped to think for a second
why you are treated the way you are. You don't
realize that you are insulting a lot of people, and
you openly show contempt for others' opinions.
So you expect to have the benefits from this site,
without having any obligations.
That makes you a parasite and a predator.

I
> explore mathematics
> > > as a free citizen.

You want all the benefits from the site, without
having any obligation towards it. That makes you
a thug and a parasite.

Would it be O.K if I were to explore mathematics
on _your_ weblog, and post 100 times a day every day?
What if all of us did that?. It would flood your site,
right?. Because it is not designed for that usage.
Same happens here. This site is not designed for your
method of exploring, and your method of exploring
hurts all of the other users. But you are intent in
just getting your way , even if it is at all others'
expense. This site may shut down because of you,
but all you care is about your rights.

Interesting how thing about your freedoms, but
not of your obligations. You are all take and take,
with no consideration of your impact.

This place cannot withstand your exploration as
you do it. It drains resources from the site and
makes it harder for others to conduct their own
explorations. Does that matter to you?. Or is it
just your own needs and ways of doing things that
matter?


> > >
> > > There is not a single bit of evidence of abuse
> because evidence does
> > > not exist for that which does not exist.
> > >

Garbage. Defacing a site is abusive. Repeated
off-topic posts are abusive. Using your own
vocabulary and notation without bothering to
explain is abusive and insulting. We don't have
to adapt to your methodology; people who reply
to you --given that you never try to help anyone
but yourself -- are DOING YOU (and me) a FAVOR,
and so they do not have to adapt to you (nor me)

I doubt you would be willing to walk into
a conversation in the streets and change the
topic , and use your own terminology. Or
if I post in your facebook blog with my own
terminology.

> > > You speak of banning me, but not the one who
> follows me around
> > > slurring racial epitaphs in my name and talking
> of vulgar unnatural
> > > sexual acts involving my mother?

You get back what you put in. Why do you think
you are the only one who gets treated that way?
Stop playing the victim if you are as interested
in the truth as you say you are, and make an honest
effort to understand why you are treated this way.
I doubt you will, because I doubt your interest on the truth. You are way too easy on yourself.

> > >
> > > I welcome you to do as you will.
> > >

Watch your blog being flooded with my garbage.
I have a hankering for exploring, and I don't
feel like doing it at my own account , and with
my own resources, so I will do it at your expense.
If that entails defacing and bringing down your
site, that is too bad. I am free to explore, because,
like you, I have rights, but no obligations.

> > > Musatov
> >
> > Your abuse is of course not of any individual, but
> > of the group users as a whole. Your postings are
> > voluminous and inconsequential.
> > --
>
> Abuse of a group is not possible if a group consists
> of individuals and no individual is abused.
>

You mean if _you_ claim/believe no one has been
abused. So we all have to agree with your views,
as you are unable to see anyone else's perspective.

> Quid Pro Quo

This is why you get insulted: Quid Pro Quo

Eleaticus

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On Aug 14, 8:10 pm, Eleaticus <scribe...@aol.com> wrote:
On Aug 14, 3:07 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:

NoEinstein wrote:

Recently, in a reply on sci.math, Eleaticus recognized that
Einstein's
SR equation wasn't "symmetrical" as regards the requirement of the
Law
of the Conservation of Energy that energy IN must = energy out.

Musatov Diagram Proof:

SR ignores symmetry
[
E E
= =
E = MCCM = E
= =
E E
]

URL Reference:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_thread/t...

Here is the trimmed exchange:

On Aug 14, 3:07 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:

NoEinstein wrote:

Recently, in a reply on sci.math, Eleaticus recognized that
Einstein's
SR equation wasn't "symmetrical" as regards the requirement of the
Law
of the Conservation of Energy that energy IN must = energy out.

Musatov's proof:

SR ignores symmetry:
E E
= =
E = MCCM = E
= =
E E

sci.physics.relativity

t' = t,
x' = x - vt,
y' = y,
z' = z.

His refusal to accept that t' must be introduced as a separate
variable springs from a massive empirical stupidity re space and time
are described as a four-dimensional manifold, with four coordinates
instead of a time evolution of a three-dimensional manifold, and
that
the change of coordinate system should be a change of four
coordinates, and not a time-dependent change of three coordinates.
This is particularly vital when it comes to fields over space and
time
(electric and magnetic fields for example).

The transformation law for the differential operators under the
Galilean transformation is given by:

d/dt' = d/dt + v d/dx,
d/dx' = d/dx,
d/dy' = d/dy,
d/dz' = d/dz.

This shows the necessity of introducing a new variable t', since
partial differentiation with respect to t' (constant x', y', z') is a
different operation to partial differentiation with respect to t
(constant x, y, z). The above transformation law is determined by
the
Chain Rule:

d/dt' = dt/dt' d/dt + dx/dt' d/dx + dy/dt' d/dy + dz/dt' d/dz,
d/dx' = dt/dx' d/dt + dx/dx' d/dx + dy/dx' d/dy + dz/dx' d/dz,
d/dy' = dt/dy' d/dt + dx/dy' d/dx + dy/dy' d/dy + dz/dy' d/dz,
d/dz' = dt/dz' d/dt + dx/dz' d/dx + dy/dz' d/dy + dz/dz' d/dz.


The homogeneous Maxwell equations are invariant under the Galilean
Transformation, with transformation laws:

E_x' = E_x,
E_y' = E_y - v B_z,
E_z' = E_z + v B_y,
B_x' = B_x,
B_y' = B_y,
B_z' = B_z.

The derivation of these transformation laws was determined using the
transformation laws for the differential operators given above.
These
transformation laws have the additional advantage that they determine
the correct transformation for the force law, thus providing further
evidence in favour of the transformation law for the differential
operators, as above.

The inhomogeneous Maxwell equations are also invariant under the
Galilean transformation, with transformation laws:

E_x' = E_x,
E_y' = E_y,
E_z' = E_z,
B_x' = B_x,
B_y' = B_y + v/c^2 E_z,
B_z' = B_z - v/c^2 E_y,
\rho' = \rho,
J_x' = J_x - v \rho,
J_y' = J_y,
J_z' = J_z.

Note the the transformation laws for the charge density and current
density are as they should be under the Galilean transformation.

Homogeneous equations are invariant under the Galilean
Transformation,
and inhomogeneous equations are invariant under the Galilean
Transformation, but Maxwell's Equations as a whole are NOT invariant
under the Galilean Transformation, since the transformation laws
required for the EM field for the two cases are inconsistent with
each
other. The transformation law for the EM field which makes the
homogeneous equations invariant will not also make the inhomogeneous
equations invariant. The transformation law for the EM field which
makes the inhomogeneous equations invariant will not also make the
homogeneous equations invariant.

On the other hand, all of Maxwell's equations are invariant under the
Lorentz Transformation, with transformation laws:

E_x' = E_x,
E_y' = \gamma (E_y - v B_z),
E_z' = \gamma (E_z + v B_y),
B_x' = B_x,
B_y' = \gamma (B_y + v/c^2 E_z),
B_z' = \gamma (B_z - v/c^2 E_y),
\rho' = \gamma (\rho - v/c^2 J_x),
J_x' = \gamma (J_x - v \rho),
J_y' = J_y,
J_z' = J_z,

where \gamma = 1/sqrt(1 - v^2/c^2).

SR ignores symmetry:
E E
= =
E = MCCM = E
= =
E E

sci.physics.relativity
> SR ignores symmetry:
> E E
> = =
> E = MCCM = E
> = =
> E E
Eleaticus wrote:

[snip]

SR ignores symmetry:
E E
= =
E = MCCM = E
= =
E E

NoEinstein
> More options Jul 30, 12:35 pm
> Newsgroups: sci.math, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
> From: NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net>
> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:35:49 -0700 (PDT)
> Local: Thurs, Jul 30 2009 12:35 pm
> Subject: Re: SR Ignored the Significance of the = Sign
> On Jul 29, 8:19 pm, Eleaticus <scribe...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> - Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
>
> > On Jul 29, 2:02 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"
> > <dirkvandemoor...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > 61848e7a-b393-4681-bca6-43f3c22bd...@e27g2000yqm.googlegroups.com
> > > > On Jul 29, 5:58 am, "Dirk Van de moortel"
> > > > <dirkvandemoor...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Dear Dirk: I detect a certain fatalism regarding whether or not you
> > > > believe Einstein will ever be dethroned as a... genius (ha, ha, HA!).
SR ignores symmetry:
E E
= =
E = MCCM = E
= =
E E- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Dear Eleaticus: You sir are a RARE thinker! The Law of the
Conservation of energy demands that: E sub OUT = E sub IN. All
mathematicians worth their salt should realize that E = (mc^2) / (1 -
v^2/c^2)^1/2 has the energy OUT being a variable exponent greater
than
unity, while the energy IN, 'v' is increasing LINEARLY. The latter——
as you say——"isn't symmetrical", and thus violates the LCE, as well
as
disproves SR as a "correct" (Ha, ha, HA!) theory. Congratulations
for
finally allowing the TRUTHFUL 'tail' to wag the ERRANT 'dog' that is
Einstein's notions about anything! — NoEinstein —

Eleaticus wrote:
[snip]
SR ignores symmetry:
E E
= =
E = MCCM = E
= =
E E

Dear Uncle Al: You, Sir, are one of the dunces who have defended
Einstein's errant theories. In one fell swoop, Eleaticus has
confirmed that SR violates the Law of the Conservation of Energy.
It's not fun being found out to be dumb, like you. Your taking pot
shots at Eleaticus only shows your futile defensiveness in the face
of
simple truths. Folks, be it known: Uncle Al is a non thinking arm-
chair scientist whose ideas don’t now hold, nor never have held, any
water. Pity him and his ilk. — NoEinstein —

PD
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Newsgroups: sci.math, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
From: PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:09:02 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 30 2009 1:09 pm
Subject: Re: SR Ignored the Significance of the = Sign
On Jul 30, 2:35 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

On Jul 29, 8:19 pm, Eleaticus <scribe...@aol.com> wrote:
On Jul 29, 2:02 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel"
<dirkvandemoor...@nospAm.hotmail.com> wrote:
NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > SR ignores symmetry:
> > > E E
> > > = =
> > > E = MCCM = E
> > > = =
> > > E E- Hide quoted text -
> > > - Show quoted text -
> > Dear Eleaticus: You sir are a RARE thinker! The Law of the
> > Conservation of energy demands that: E sub OUT = E sub IN. All
> > mathematicians worth their salt should realize that E = (mc^2) / (1 -
> > v^2/c^2)^1/2 has the energy OUT being a variable exponent greater than
> > unity, while the energy IN, 'v' is increasing LINEARLY. The latter——
> > as you say——"isn't symmetrical", and thus violates the LCE, as well as
> > disproves SR as a "correct" (Ha, ha, HA!) theory. Congratulations for
> > finally allowing the TRUTHFUL 'tail' to wag the ERRANT 'dog' that is
> > Einstein's notions about anything! — NoEinstein —
>
> Oh, dear.
>
> doug
> Newsgroups: sci.math, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
> From: doug <x...@xx.com>
> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:40:32 -0800
> Local: Thurs, Jul 30 2009 3:40 pm
> Subject: Re: SR Ignored the Significance of the = Sign

The Law of the

Conservation of energy demands that: E sub OUT = E sub IN. All
mathematicians worth their salt should realize that E = (mc^2) / (1 -
v^2/c^2)^1/2 has the energy OUT being a variable exponent greater
than
unity, while the energy IN, 'v' is increasing LINEARLY. The latter——
as you say——"isn't symmetrical", and thus violates the LCE, as well
as
disproves SR as a "correct" (Ha, ha, HA!) theory. Congratulations
for
finally allowing the TRUTHFUL 'tail' to wag the ERRANT 'dog' that is
Einstein's notions about anything! — NoEinstein —

Thank you,

Martin Musatov

'aka' 'Eleaticus"

'aka' scri...@aol.com
'aka' me...@vzw.blackberry.net
'aka' scri...@yahoo.com
'aka' marty....@gmail.com
'aka' jimmy....@instructor.net
'aka' scribi...@mail.org

Eleaticus

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Eleaticus <scribe...@aol.com>
Date: Aug 14, 8:31 pm
Subject: Musatov Disproved SR with third-party witness
To: sci.logic, sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.math


On Aug 14, 8:10 pm, Eleaticus <scribe...@aol.com> wrote:
On Aug 14, 3:07 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:

NoEinstein wrote:

Recently, in a reply on sci.math, Eleaticus recognized that
Einstein's
SR equation wasn't "symmetrical" as regards the requirement of the
Law
of the Conservation of Energy that energy IN must = energy out.

MusatovDiagram Proof:

URL Reference:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_thread/t...

NoEinstein wrote:

Musatov'sproof:

sci.physics.relativity

sci.physics.relativity

[snip]

NoEinstein

Eleaticus wrote:

> Oh, dear.

The Law of the

Thank you,

MartinMusatov

'aka' 'Eleaticus"

'aka' scribe...@aol.com
'aka' me...@vzw.blackberry.net
'aka' scribe...@yahoo.com
'aka' marty.musa...@gmail.com
'aka' jimmy.nizn...@instructor.net
'aka' scribio_vi...@mail.org

Bacle

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Do you realize that when someone sees a post with a
certain title, they expect to read posts related to
the title?. We don't want to randomly search for
posts, so we organize them this way. It saves time
and energy to not have to look around randomly.
Why don't you do a separate post if you
want to talk about something else?.

Eleaticus

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> ...
>
> read more »

Musatov's proof: SR ignores symmetry: ee = = E = MCCM = E = = ee
sci.physics. relativity t' = t, x' = x - vt, y' = y, z' = z. His
refusal to accept that t' ...

...was all that was needed.

MeAmI.org

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Ditto

I apologize for the insulting things I have said to you.

I do not insult anyone by my actions and if you claim I do

I claim I do not

Who are you to judge? Are you perfect?

Bacle

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>> > > Abuse of a group is not possible if a group
> consists
> > > of individuals and no individual is abused.
> >
> >   You mean if _you_ claim/believe no one has been
> >   abused. So we all have to agree with your views,
> >   as you are unable to see anyone else's
> perspective.
> >
> > > Quid Pro Quo
> >
> >   This is why you get insulted: Quid Pro Quo
>
> Ditto
>
> I apologize for the insulting things I have said to
> you.
>
> I do not insult anyone by my actions.

Yes you do. You do not decide for others what
they(we) consider to be offensive. And we DO
consider your actions offensive.

Why do you think so many here are dealing with
you the way they are, if not because they feel
insulted?.
You would not get away with doing this in any
moderated site, so you cowardly do it in an
unmoderated one.


and if you claim
> I do
>
> I claim I do not
>

Why don't you do this in your own site. Create a
weblog and go do it. You are using others as unwilling
memebers in your experiment.


> Who are you to judge? Are you perfect?

What a stupid , thoughtless reply. I write a long
post, explaining myself in great level of detail,
and you make this stupid reply. So you ask for why
we are upset, and I spend HALF A FUCKING HOUR writing
this shit and THIS is your fucking reply??????????

Do you not understand that this is insulting, you
little shit?. I spend time and effort to explain to
you in detail why I feel insulted, and, instead of
reading it, you give me this fucking pap?

Coward. I dare you to try doing this in a moderated
site. We can see thru your facade of decency into
what you really are.

Go develop testicle cancer and then die alone.

Bacle

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Dodge

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What is this! . Unless the man has posted criminal/illegal things or personally harrased in this country not even the slightest chance you can do that, this is because of our constitution, move to Russia along with this fellow if that is your solution.. It is a different matter if he personally send harassing E mails which I have recieved and we will take appropriate action.

Respectfully many of you have posted ugly dirty reponses to my posts very abusive, in fact some of you are calling the kettle black . You deserve this fellow Musa-- who is a Pest no doubt, but the forum should take care of him and who the hell are you to pretend to be better than this rat it reminds me of segreagation when the Nobel Laurette Chandersekhar the Astrophysics was banned afte dark in cities of Wisconsin by hypocrites like you and jews needed to wear an arm band , shame on you for even suggesting this, BUT you all have done a good job of punishing him, some hard core nuts take a lot of punishment as I know from the Military before they desist, you have to literally snook them out of the foxholes---- I have had a mixed reaction to Mathematicians most are good , and some like Musatov and co are from the 3rd row. So Musatove has company, a gang - BUT MOST OF YOU ARE GOOD!

adamk

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I don't think your analogy is valid. Specific,
cogent points have been made against musatov, who
has repeatedly refused to even adress seriously.

M.M.M.

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"Come!" He who hears, let him say, ...
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Bride say, Come. And let him that hears say,
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I sure could use the exposure.

M.M.M.

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The Sortov Institute

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Imbecile Musatov wrote:

> And in this case I can guarantee a personal civil proceedung against
> you for defamation and libel in the State of California.

> What is your name, Sir?

> My name is Martin Musatov.

And my name is Lawrence D. Hammick and I spit in your face, vandal.


M.M.M.

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Postershow film
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Give it up
One of the things
That makesd Tatum O'Neil win an Oscar at age 9. Maybe not Bond:007
this is I am seeing. I have no idea!!!!

Tatum O'Neil is here cool! Bye.

Musarovwe wroterrme:

Three times the same to Jesus have you and He Greater than I comes
before me and you, The comes before we::I heard them. Their prayer to
thee contained
Hello Lawrence D. Hammick,
Law be with you rence Destruction the swine of your name contained I
see division in thee = %.

M.M.M.

Spitting is not math unless you count it.

1 virtual spit. Lawrence D. Hammick = name given (by a spitter of
virtue he may) be I greater to you than he the world see the awesome
power contained in The Word. Without End...

..Three times... The song of songs.. The equation of equations, the
nature of natureds, the analysis of life and death to the
livinGodmayprevailelementarytoyouconbtainb,polinuyggfryfjsjefje, the
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M of other Mary M Art in Him. M be Thy Name. Mem be Thy and all be
Thine including Time.

M.M.M.

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The Sortov Institute

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(Musatov's cross-posting omitted)

Vandals like yourself, Musatov, claim to have an unalienable human right to
shit on the sidewalk. You do not.


adamk

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I think she just brings up rights, but neglects
obligations, as she is a taker. She is also a coward,
since she does this when she knows we cannot do
anything about it.
I suspect she , musatov, believes we are a bunch of
math nerds she can step over. This is a leftover
attitude from the not-too-bright kids in highschool
towards the smart ones.

adamk

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musatov barely finished highschool, then barely took
a few classes in community college, which she obviously
did not master. she clearly lacks the most basic skills.
Now she is envious of those who have an education, but
she cannot admit to it. she hides behind religion.

M.M.M.

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I finished High School fine. I got straight A's one semester.

I attended Anoka Ramsey Community College in Coon Rapids Minnesota
for less than a year. Following this I transferred to Metropolitan
State University in St. Paul, Minnesota as a Business Finance Major,
during this time I obtained my NASD Series 6 licensing and got a
part-time job as a Mutual Funds 'Transfer Agent' at American Express
Financial Advisors, but I just didn't like how much of my future in
Finance as it were to me at the time, seem to consist so much of
reassuring old people of their worries concerning money. Around this
time 'Metropolitan State University' launched a Screenwriting major,
the first of its kind in the State of Minnesota. I had always loved
movies, but never considered the possibility of it as a career, and
I had always been pretty imaginative and a fairly strong writer so
I pondered it, and after when particularly harsh Accounting class
Professor wanted to give me a NP grade based solely on my attendance
and not my understanding of the material, I walked out, went down
to the computer lab, and found the screenplay for 'Pulp Fiction'
online. I loved it. In the next hour I applied for internships at
several major Hollywood production companies and Talent Agencies,
set in my heart I would change my major and spend the next two summers
in Los Angeles, and I did, having secured and completetd internships
with MTV Films, Jerry Bruckheimer Films, International Creative
Management, and Village Roadshow Entertainment (Australia), I went
on to move to Los Angeles, New Years Day 2002. By 2005 I had two
years as an assistant to two literary agents and completed a
fellowship for television writers at 20th Century Fox, secured an
agent at one of the top talent agencies in Hollywood, and had a
film I wrote (adapted) set up with $5 Million dollars financing,
and the director of 'The Blair Witch Project' set.

Here is the variety article confirming this and my involvement:
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117940370.html?categoryid=&cs=1&query=blair+brain+envisions

Here is my IMDb credit:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1785783/

Here is the film:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solstice_(film)

I have since gone on to work in the New Media/Business Development
group at Creative Artists Agency (*the top talent agency in the world*
represents Oprah to Tom Cruise to Coca Cola) and worked on a Social
Action driven digital campaignn for eBay co-founder and former
President and CEO, Jeff Skoll, at Participant Media.

M.M.M.

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On Aug 15, 10:41 pm, adamk <ad...@adamk.net> wrote:
> > (Musatov's cross-posting omitted)
>
> > Vandals like yourself, Musatov, claim to have an
> > unalienable human right to
> > shit on the sidewalk. You do not.
>
> > (Musatov's cross-posting omitted)
>
> > Vandals like yourself, Musatov, claim to have an
> > unalienable human right to
> > shit on the sidewalk. You do not.
>
>    I think she

Does one who pays attention to names note that

Martin is a patronymic surname taken from the ancient Latin given name
Martinus, derived from Mars, the Roman god of fertility and war.

And not at all a female name?

just brings up rights, but neglects
>  obligations, as she is a taker. She

Against you I charge you have neglected to notice my name and shown it
evident by your words have you not done this more than three times?

is also a coward,
>  since she

And continue to do it

does this when she

knows we cannot do
>  anything about it.

I suspect it does.

>    I suspect she ,

Who?

musatov,

Yes?

believes we are a bunch of

>  math nerds

If you are what is it to me?

she can step over.

You refer to someone else here by your word.


This is a leftover
>  attitude from the not-too-bright kids in highschool

I do not know you so I may not speculate in fairness
>  towards the smart ones.

--Musatov

M.M.M.

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about your high school experience

>
> >  towards the smart ones.
>
> --Musatov

Sa0-tan may have you

1am moving on


read it - the truth

stop with your lies

I warned you once and I need not do it 3 or 5 times

but once

in faith

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117940370.html?categoryid=&cs=1&que...

M.M.M.

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> President and CEO, Jeff Skoll, at Participant Media.- Hide quoted text -

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And I have a Bacherlor of The Arts degree in Screenwriting from
Metropolitan
State University as part of the University of Minnesota State Colleges
and Universities
I have also been accredited a professor and community faculty member
supervising
on occasion indpendent studies of screenwriting majors in Minnesota,
mentoring them
and speaking to groups on occasion.

I see my analytical skills and imagination as far more important than
your
perception of my intelligence.

I see it this way because regardless of what you perceive, the truth
exists.

Truth does not depend on perception, nor even observation to exist.

It is not debatable.

Our beliefs and their acceptance are what you debate based on your
perception
and your perceptions exist independent of truth.

Truth does not require your perception.

Truth simply is.

It exists.
M.M.M.

adamk

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There is no fairness in you, sorry whore. You destroy
and deface this site, you want to have it your way
at everyone's expense. You are a repulsive piece of
shit. Drop dead.

>
> --Musatov

Bacle

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This link:

http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=6816730&tstart=0

Refers to what seems like death threats by musatov.
I think this should help.

eric gisse

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Another spamming moron for the killfile.

Scribe

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> This link:
>
> http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=6816730

> &tstart=0
>
> Refers to what seems like death threats by musatov.
> I think this should help.
Help@

Page 1 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Trigonometric
Series and Set theory Alexander S. Kechris January 8, 2009 Page 2
Trigonometric Series and Set theory Trigonometric and Fourier series
Definition A trigonometric series is an expression of the form s ∼
∞ ∑ n=−∞ c n e inx ,x ∈ T The unit circle T can be
viewed as the interval [0,2π] with 0,2π identified. This can be also
written as s ∼ a 0 2 + ∞ ∑ n=1 a n cos(nx) + b n sin
(nx). Page 3 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Trigonometric and
Fourier series Definition A trigonometric series is an expression
of the form s ∼ ∞ ∑ n=−∞ c n e inx ,x ∈ T The unit
circle T can be viewed as the interval [0,2π] with 0,2π identified.
This can be also written as s ∼ a 0 2 + ∞ ∑ n=1 a n cos
(nx) + b n sin(nx). Page 4 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Trigonometric and Fourier series Definition A Fourier series is an
expression of the form s ∼ ∞ ∑ n=−∞ f(n) e inx ,f ∈ L 1
( T ) The Fourier coefficients of f are given by f (n) = 1 2π ∫
2π 0 f (x)e −inx dx. Page 5 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Trigonometric and Fourier series Definition A Fourier series is an
expression of the form s ∼ ∞ ∑ n=−∞ f(n)e inx ,f ∈ L 1
( T ) The Fourier coefficients of f are given by f (n) = 1 2π ∫ 2π 0
f (x)e −inx dx. Page 6 Trigonometric Series and Set theory I:
Riemann, Heine and Cantor Page 7 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Riemann, Heine and Cantor Riemann Habilitationsschrift (1854) Study
of the structure of functions that can be represented by trigonometric
series f (x) = ∞ ∑ n=−∞ c n e inx Page 8 Trigonometric
Series and Set theory Riemann, Heine and Cantor Suggests three
general problems: (The Uniqueness Problem) Is such an expansion
unique? (The Characterization Problem) Can one characterize the
functions that have a trigonometric expansion? (The Coefficient
Problem) How does one “compute” the coefficients of the expansion from
the function? Page 9 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Riemann,
Heine and Cantor Suggests three general problems: (The Uniqueness
Problem) Is such an expansion unique? (The Characterization Problem)
Can one characterize the functions that have a trigonometric
expansion? (The Coefficient Problem) How does one “compute” the
coefficients of the expansion from the function? Page 10
Trigonometric Series and Set theory Riemann, Heine and Cantor
Suggests three general problems: (The Uniqueness Problem) Is such an
expansion unique? (The Characterization Problem) Can one characterize
the functions that have a trigonometric expansion? (The Coefficient
Problem) How does one “compute” the coefficients of the expansion from
the function? Page 11 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Riemann,
Heine and Cantor Suggests three general problems: (The Uniqueness
Problem) Is such an expansion unique? (The Characterization Problem)
Can one characterize the functions that have a trigonometric
expansion? (The Coefficient Problem) How does one “compute” the
coefficients of the expansion from the function? Page 12
Trigonometric Series and Set theory Riemann, Heine and Cantor Will
concentrate on the Uniqueness Problem but here are some comments on
the other two problems. (The Characterization Problem) Even for
continuous functions, although there are many well- known sufficient
criteria for the expansion in a trigonometric series, one can argue
(on the basis of a result that I will mention later) than no
reasonable exact criteria can be found. Page 13 Trigonometric Series
and Set theory Riemann, Heine and Cantor Will concentrate on the
Uniqueness Problem but here are some comments on the other two
problems. (The Characterization Problem) Even for continuous
functions, although there are many well-known sufficient criteria for
the expansion in a trigonometric series, one can argue (on the basis
of a result that I will mention later) than no reasonable exact
criteria can be found. Page 14 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Riemann, Heine and Cantor (The Coefficient Problem) If an integrable
function can be represented by a trigonometric series, then the
coefficients are its Fourier coefficients (de la Vallee-Poussin).
However there are everywhere convergent series, like ∞ ∑ n=2 sin
(nx) log n , whose sum is not integrable. Denjoy from 1941 to 1949
wrote a 700 (!) page book describing a general procedure for computing
the coefficients. Page 15 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Riemann, Heine and Cantor Heine suggested to Cantor to study the
Uniqueness Problem. Theorem (Cantor, 1870) If ∑ ∞ n=−∞ c n e
inx = 0,∀x ∈ T , then c n = 0,∀n. Theorem (Cantor, 1872) If
∑ ∞ n=−∞ c n e inx = 0,∀x ∈ T , except on a closed set of
finite Cantor-Bendixson rank, then c n = 0,∀n. Page 16
Trigonometric Series and Set theory Riemann, Heine and Cantor Heine
suggested to Cantor to study the Uniqueness Problem. Theorem
(Cantor, 1870) If ∑ ∞ n=−∞ c n e inx = 0,∀x ∈ T , then c
n = 0,∀n. Theorem (Cantor, 1872) If ∑ ∞ n=−∞ c n e inx
= 0,∀x ∈ T , except on a closed set of finite Cantor-Bendixson rank,
then c n = 0,∀n. Page 17 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Riemann, Heine and Cantor Heine suggested to Cantor to study the
Uniqueness Problem. Theorem (Cantor, 1870) If ∑ ∞ n= −∞ c n
e inx = 0,∀x ∈ T , then c n = 0,∀n. Theorem (Cantor, 1872)
If ∑ ∞ n=−∞ c n e inx = 0,∀x ∈ T , except on a closed
set of finite Cantor-Bendixson rank, then c n = 0,∀n. Page 18
Trigonometric Series and Set theory Riemann, Heine and Cantor
Theorem (Lebesgue, 1903) If ∑ ∞ n=−∞ c n e inx = 0,∀x ∈
T , except on a closed countable set, then c n = 0,∀n. Theorem
(W.H.Young, 1909) If ∑ ∞ n=−∞ c n e inx = 0,∀x ∈ T ,
except on a countable set, then c n = 0,∀n. Page 19 Trigonometric
Series and Set theory Sets of uniqueness Definition A (Borel) set
A ⊆ T is called a set of uniqueness if ∑ ∞ n=−∞ c n e inx =
0,∀x ∈ A, implies c n = 0,∀n. Otherwise it is called a set of
multiplicity. We denote by U the class of sets of uniqueness and by
M the class of sets of multiplicity. Thus countable ⊆ U ⊆ (Lebesgue)
null. Is U = countable? Is U = (Lebesgue) null? Page 20 Trigonometric
Series and Set theory Sets of uniqueness Definition A (Borel) set
A ⊆ T is called a set of uniqueness if ∑ ∞ n=−∞ c n e inx
= 0,∀x ∈ A, implies c n = 0,∀n. Otherwise it is called a set of
multiplicity. We denote by U the class of sets of uniqueness and by M
the class of sets of multiplicity. Thus countable ⊆ U ⊆ (Lebesgue)
null. Is U = countable? Is U = (Lebesgue) null? Page 21
Trigonometric Series and Set theory Sets of uniqueness Definition
A (Borel) set A ⊆ T is called a set of uniqueness if ∑ ∞ n=−∞ c
n e inx = 0,∀x ∈ A, implies c n = 0,∀n. Otherwise it is
called a set of multiplicity. We denote by U the class of sets of
uniqueness and by M the class of sets of multiplicity. Thus countable
⊆ U ⊆ (Lebesgue) null. Is U = countable? Is U = (Lebesgue) null?
Page 22 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Sets of uniqueness
Definition A (Borel) set A ⊆ T is called a set of uniqueness if ∑ ∞
n=−∞ c n e inx = 0,∀x ∈ A, implies c n = 0,∀n. Otherwise
it is called a set of multiplicity. We denote by U the class of sets
of uniqueness and by M the class of sets of multiplicity. Thus
countable ⊆ U ⊆ (Lebesgue) null. Is U = countable? Is U = (Lebesgue)
null? Page 23 Trigonometric Series and Set theory II. The Russian
and Polish Schools (mid 1910’s - mid 1930’s) Page 24 Trigonometric
Series and Set theory The Russian and Polish Schools The structure
of sets of uniqueness was investigated intensely during that period by
the Russian school of Luzin, Menshov and Bari, and the Polish school
of Rajchman, Zygmund and Marcinkiewicz. Page 25 Trigonometric Series
and Set theory The Russian and Polish Schools Theorem (Bari,
Zygmund 1923) The union of countably many closed sets of uniqueness
is also a set of uniqueness. Page 26 Trigonometric Series and Set
theory The Russian and Polish Schools Definition Given real
numbers ξ 1 ,ξ 2 ,..., with 0 < ξ n < 1/2, denote by E ξ
1 ,ξ 2 ,... the Cantor-type set (in T ) constructed with
successive ratios of dissection ξ 1 ,ξ 2 ,.... We also let E ξ
= E ξ,ξ,... . In particular, E 1/3 is the usual Cantor set.
Page 27 Trigonometric Series and Set theory The Russian and Polish
Schools Theorem (Menshov, 1916) There is a closed null set of
multiplicity. In fact, E ξ 1 ,ξ 2 ,... , with ξ n = (n
+1) 2(n+2) , is such a set. Theorem (Bari,Rajchman, 1921-1923)
There are perfect sets of uniqueness. In fact, E 1/3 is such a set.
It follows that countable ⫋ U ⫋ null. Thus by the 1920’s it had become
clear that the class of (even closed) sets of uniqueness is hard to
delineate in terms of classical notions of smallness in analysis.
Page 28 Trigonometric Series and Set theory The Russian and Polish
Schools Theorem (Menshov, 1916) There is a closed null set of
multiplicity. In fact, E ξ 1 ,ξ 2 ,... , with ξ n = (n
+1) 2(n+2) , is such a set. Theorem (Bari,Rajchman, 1921-1923)
There are perfect sets of uniqueness. In fact, E 1/3 is such a
set. It follows that countable ⫋ U ⫋ null. Thus by the 1920’s it had
become clear that the class of (even closed) sets of uniqueness is
hard to delineate in terms of classical notions of smallness in
analysis. Page 29 Trigonometric Series and Set theory The Russian
and Polish Schools Theorem (Menshov, 1916) There is a closed null
set of multiplicity. In fact, E ξ 1 ,ξ 2 ,... , with ξ n
= (n+1) 2(n +2) , is such a set. Theorem (Bari,Rajchman,
1921-1923) There are perfect sets of uniqueness. In fact, E 1/3
is such a set. It follows that countable ⫋ U ⫋ null. Thus by the
1920’s it had become clear that the class of (even closed) sets of
uniqueness is hard to delineate in terms of classical notions of
smallness in analysis. Page 30 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
The Russian and Polish Schools Bari’s memoir in 1927 stated some
classical problems on sets of uniqueness. (The Characterization
Problem) Find necessary and sufficient conditions for a perfect set to
be a set of uniqueness. It appears that the intended meaning was to
ask for geometric, analytic (or, as we will see later, even number
theoretic) structural properties of a given perfect set, expressed
“explicitly” in terms of some standard description of it, that will
determine whether it is a set of uniqueness or multiplicity. Page 31
Trigonometric Series and Set theory The Russian and Polish Schools
Bari’s memoir in 1927 stated some classical problems on sets of
uniqueness. (The Characterization Problem) Find necessary and
sufficient conditions for a perfect set to be a set of uniqueness. It
appears that the intended meaning was to ask for geometric, analytic
(or, as we will see later, even number theoretic) structural
properties of a given perfect set, expressed “explicitly” in terms of
some standard description of it, that will determine whether it is a
set of uniqueness or multiplicity. Page 32 Trigonometric Series and
Set theory The Russian and Polish Schools (The Union Problem) Is
the union of two (Borel) sets of uniqueness also a set of uniqueness?
The first open case is that of two G δ sets. (The Category
Problem) Is every (Borel) set of uniqueness of the first category
(meager)? Page 33 Trigonometric Series and Set theory The Russian
and Polish Schools (The Union Problem) Is the union of two (Borel)
sets of uniqueness also a set of uniqueness? The first open case is
that of two G δ sets. (The Category Problem) Is every (Borel) set of
uniqueness of the first category (meager)? Page 34 Trigonometric
Series and Set theory III. Thin sets in harmonic analysis (early
1950’s - mid 1970’s) Page 35 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Thin sets in harmonic analysis During that period there was an
explosion of research into the structure of thin sets in harmonic
analysis, including the study of closed sets of uniqueness. Piateski-
Shapiro in 1952-54 introduced functional analysis methods into the
subject of uniqueness. This has become the standard language of the
subject since then. Page 36 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Thin sets in harmonic analysis During that period there was an
explosion of research into the structure of thin sets in harmonic
analysis, including the study of closed sets of uniqueness. Piateski-
Shapiro in 1952-54 introduced functional analysis methods into the
subject of uniqueness. This has become the standard language of the
subject since then. Page 37 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Thin sets in harmonic analysis Definition We denote by A( T ) the
Banach algebra of functions with absolutely convergent Fourier series.
This is of course the same as l 1 ( Z ). Its dual is the space l
∞ ( Z ), which in this context is called the space of pseudomeasures
and denoted by PM. Its predual is the space c 0 ( Z ), which in
this context is called the space of pseudofunctions and denoted by
PF. Page 38 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Thin sets in
harmonic analysis Example A (probability Borel) measure µ can be
identified with its Fourier-Stieltjes coefficients µ(n) = ∫ e −inx
dµ. These are bounded, so every measure is a pseudomeasure. Example
A function f ∈ L 1 ( T ) can be identified with its Fourier
coefficients f (n) and these are in c 0 ( Z ), by the Riemann-
Lebesgue Lemma, so every function is a pseudofunction. Page 39
Trigonometric Series and Set theory Thin sets in harmonic analysis
Example A (probability Borel) measure µ can be identified with its
Fourier-Stieltjes coefficients µ(n) = ∫ e −inx dµ. These are
bounded, so every measure is a pseudomeasure. Example A function f
∈ L 1 ( T ) can be identified with its Fourier coefficients f (n)
and these are in c 0 ( Z ), by the Riemann-Lebesgue Lemma, so
every function is a pseudofunction. Page 40 Trigonometric Series and
Set theory Thin sets in harmonic analysis Definition The support
of a pseudomeasure S is the complement of the largest open set on
which S vanishes, i.e., annihilates all functions in A( T ) supported
by it. This gives the usual definition of support when applied to a
measure or a function. Piatetski-Shapiro’s reformulation of the
concept of closed set of uniqueness. Theorem (Piatetski-Shapiro,
1952) A closed set E is a set of uniqueness iff it does not support
a non-0 pseudofunction. Page 41 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Thin sets in harmonic analysis Definition The support of a
pseudomeasure S is the complement of the largest open set on which S
vanishes, i.e., annihilates all functions in A( T ) supported by it.
This gives the usual definition of support when applied to a measure
or a function. Piatetski-Shapiro’s reformulation of the concept of
closed set of uniqueness. Theorem (Piatetski-Shapiro, 1952) A
closed set E is a set of uniqueness iff it does not support a non-0
pseudofunction. Page 42 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Thin
sets in harmonic analysis Definition The support of a
pseudomeasure S is the complement of the largest open set on which S
vanishes, i.e., annihilates all functions in A( T ) supported by it.
This gives the usual definition of support when applied to a measure
or a function. Piatetski-Shapiro’s reformulation of the concept of
closed set of uniqueness. Theorem (Piatetski-Shapiro, 1952) A
closed set E is a set of uniqueness iff it does not support a non-0
pseudofunction. Page 43 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Thin
sets in harmonic analysis Definition The support of a
pseudomeasure S is the complement of the largest open set on which S
vanishes, i.e., annihilates all functions in A( T ) supported by it.
This gives the usual definition of support when applied to a measure
or a function. Piatetski-Shapiro’s reformulation of the concept of
closed set of uniqueness. Theorem (Piatetski-Shapiro, 1952) A
closed set E is a set of uniqueness iff it does not support a non-0
pseudofunction. Page 44 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Thin
sets in harmonic analysis At this point it is time to introduce an
important variation of the concept of set of uniqueness, which really
goes back to Menshov’s work. His example of a null closed set of
multiplicity was witnessed by the Fourier-Stieltjes series of a
(probability Borel) measure. Such a set is called a set of strict
multiplicity. Definition A (Borel) set is called a set of extended
uniqueness if it satisfies uniqueness for Fourier-Stieltjes series of
measures. Otherwise it is called a set of strict multiplicity. The
class of sets of extended uniqueness is denoted by U 0 and the
class of sets of strict multiplicity is denoted by M 0 . Page 45
Trigonometric Series and Set theory Thin sets in harmonic analysis
At this point it is time to introduce an important variation of the
concept of set of uniqueness, which really goes back to Menshov’s
work. His example of a null closed set of multiplicity was witnessed
by the Fourier-Stieltjes series of a (probability Borel) measure. Such
a set is called a set of strict multiplicity. Definition A (Borel)
set is called a set of extended uniqueness if it satisfies uniqueness
for Fourier-Stieltjes series of measures. Otherwise it is called a set
of strict multiplicity. The class of sets of extended uniqueness is
denoted by U 0 and the class of sets of strict multiplicity is
denoted by M 0 . Page 46 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Thin
sets in harmonic analysis Definition A Rajchman measure is a
measure whose Fourier-Stieltjes coefficients converge to 0, i.e., form
a pseudofunction. Lebesgue measure is of this form and a Rajchman
measure is thought of as a measure with “large support”. However,
Menshov showed that there are singular Rajchman measures. In terms of
Rajchman measures, the sets of extended uniqueness are exactly those
that are null for all such measures. Theorem (Piatetski-Shapiro,
1954) There is a closed set of extended uniqueness but not of
uniqueness. Page 47 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Thin sets
in harmonic analysis Definition A Rajchman measure is a measure
whose Fourier-Stieltjes coefficients converge to 0, i.e., form a
pseudofunction. Lebesgue measure is of this form and a Rajchman
measure is thought of as a measure with “large support”. However,
Menshov showed that there are singular Rajchman measures. In terms of
Rajchman measures, the sets of extended uniqueness are exactly those
that are null for all such measures. Theorem (Piatetski-Shapiro,
1954) There is a closed set of extended uniqueness but not of
uniqueness. Page 48 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Thin sets
in harmonic analysis Definition A Rajchman measure is a measure
whose Fourier-Stieltjes coefficients converge to 0, i.e., form a
pseudofunction. Lebesgue measure is of this form and a Rajchman
measure is thought of as a measure with “large support”. However,
Menshov showed that there are singular Rajchman measures. In terms of
Rajchman measures, the sets of extended uniqueness are exactly those
that are null for all such measures. Theorem (Piatetski-Shapiro,
1954) There is a closed set of extended uniqueness but not of
uniqueness. Page 49 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Thin sets
in harmonic analysis This result of Piatetski-Shapiro was amplified
in the work of Korner in the early 1970’s, who solved a major problem
at that time by constructing a particular kind of closed thin set,
called a Helson set, which is of multiplicity. As Helson, 1954 had
already shown that these sets are of extended uniqueness, this also
implied the Piatetski-Shapiro theorem. This result of Korner was one
of the last major results of that period. Its original proof was
extremely complicated and despite a major simplification by Kaufman it
remains a subtle and difficult result. Page 50 Trigonometric Series
and Set theory Thin sets in harmonic analysis During that period
there was also a major advance in the characterization problem.
Definition A real number is called a Pisot (or Pisot-Vijayaraghavan)
number if it is an algebraic integer > 1 all of whose conjugates have
absolute value < 1. Examples: The integers > 1 and the golden mean.
Intuitively, these are numbers whose powers approach integers. Page
51 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Thin sets in harmonic
analysis During that period there was also a major advance in the
characterization problem. Definition A real number is called a
Pisot (or Pisot-Vijayaraghavan) number if it is an algebraic integer >
1 all of whose conjugates have absolute value < 1. Examples: The
integers > 1 and the golden mean. Intuitively, these are numbers whose
powers approach integers. Page 52 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Thin sets in harmonic analysis During that period there was also a
major advance in the characterization problem. Definition A real
number is called a Pisot (or Pisot-Vijayaraghavan) number if it is an
algebraic integer > 1 all of whose conjugates have absolute value < 1.
Examples: The integers > 1 and the golden mean. Intuitively, these are
numbers whose powers approach integers. Page 53 Trigonometric Series
and Set theory Thin sets in harmonic analysis Theorem (Salem,
1944) The Pisot numbers form a closed set of algebraic integers.
Theorem (Salem-Zygmund, 1955) The set E ξ is a set of uniqueness
iff 1/ξ is a Pisot number. Page 54 Trigonometric Series and Set
theory Thin sets in harmonic analysis Theorem (Salem, 1944) The
Pisot numbers form a closed set of algebraic integers. Theorem
(Salem-Zygmund, 1955) The set E ξ is a set of uniqueness iff 1/ξ
is a Pisot number. Page 55 Trigonometric Series and Set theory IV.
Applications of descriptive set theory (mid 1980’s - mid 1990’s) Page
56 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Applications of descriptive
set theory We have seen that the problems of uniqueness have
involved ideas from many subjects, such as classical real analysis,
modern harmonic analysis, functional analysis, number theory, etc.
Although set theory owes its origin to Cantor’s work on the uniqueness
problem, relatively little contact existed between set theory and the
study of sets of uniqueness until the 1980’s, when ideas from a basic
area of set theory, called descriptive set theory, were brought to
bear in the study of this subject. This is interesting since
descriptive set theory was originally developed in the same Russian
and Polish schools during the same period 1915-1935. Page 57
Trigonometric Series and Set theory Applications of descriptive set
theory Luzin’s school was concerned with was then called the theory
of real functions and there was at that time a distinction between the
so-called metric theory (differentiation, integration, trigonometric
series, etc.) and the descriptive theory (called today descriptive set
theory). Strangely enough, according to Kolmogorov, who was a member
of that school, Luzin divided his students to those that would study
the metric theory and those that would study the descriptive one.
(Kolmogorov actually violated this rule and worked on both.) In the
following years the subjects drifted apart, the first one practiced by
analysts and the second one by logicians. They were brought back
together in the 1980’s in the study of sets of uniqueness. Page 58
Trigonometric Series and Set theory Applications of descriptive set
theory Descriptive set theory is the study of definable sets and
functions in Polish (complete, separable metric) spaces, like the
Euclidean spaces, Hilbert space and more generally separable Banach
spaces, second countable locally compact groups, etc. In this theory
sets are classified in hierarchies according to the complexity of
their definitions and the structure of sets at each level of these
hierarchies is systematically studied. Page 59 Trigonometric Series
and Set theory Applications of descriptive set theory Descriptive
set theory is the study of definable sets and functions in Polish
(complete, separable metric) spaces, like the Euclidean spaces,
Hilbert space and more generally separable Banach spaces, second
countable locally compact groups, etc. In this theory sets are
classified in hierarchies according to the complexity of their
definitions and the structure of sets at each level of these
hierarchies is systematically studied. Page 60 Trigonometric Series
and Set theory Applications of descriptive set theory Of
particular importance are the Borel and projective sets. The Borel
sets are obtained from the open sets by applying repeatedly countable
Boolean operations and the projective sets are obtained form the Borel
sets by the operations of complementation and projection. These
classes of sets are ramified in natural hierarchies as follows: open F
σ F σδ ··· A PCA ··· closed G δ G δσ ··· ︸ ︷︷ ︸ Borel
CA CPCA ··· ︸ ︷︷ ︸ Projective A = analytic sets, CA = co-
analytic sets Page 61 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Applications of descriptive set theory Of particular importance are
the Borel and projective sets. The Borel sets are obtained from the
open sets by applying repeatedly countable Boolean operations and the
projective sets are obtained form the Borel sets by the operations of
complementation and projection. These classes of sets are ramified in
natural hierarchies as follows: open F σ F σδ ··· A PCA ···
closed G δ G δσ ··· ︸ ︷︷ ︸ Borel CA CPCA ··· ︸ ︷︷ ︸
Projective A = analytic sets, CA = co-analytic sets Page 62
Trigonometric Series and Set theory Applications of descriptive set
theory Of particular importance are the Borel and projective sets.
The Borel sets are obtained from the open sets by applying repeatedly
countable Boolean operations and the projective sets are obtained form
the Borel sets by the operations of complementation and projection.
These classes of sets are ramified in natural hierarchies as follows:
open F σ F σδ ··· A PCA ··· closed G δ G δσ ··· ︸ ︷︷ ︸
Borel CA CPCA ··· ︸ ︷︷ ︸ Projective A = analytic sets, CA = co-
analytic sets Page 63 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Applications of descriptive set theory Intuitively, sets whose
membership is characterized in “effective” terms, even allowing
countable operations, are Borel. Here are a couple of examples of
co- analytic non-Borel sets in analysis: In the space C( T ), the set
of differentiable functions is co-analytic but not Borel
(Mazurkiewicz, 1936) In the space C( T ), the set of functions that
can be expanded in a trigonometric series is co-analytic but not Borel
(Ajtai-K, 1987) Page 64 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Applications of descriptive set theory Intuitively, sets whose
membership is characterized in “effective” terms, even allowing
countable operations, are Borel. Here are a couple of examples of co-
analytic non-Borel sets in analysis: In the space C( T ), the set of
differentiable functions is co-analytic but not Borel (Mazurkiewicz,
1936) In the space C( T ), the set of functions that can be expanded
in a trigonometric series is co-analytic but not Borel (Ajtai-K, 1987)
Page 65 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Applications of
descriptive set theory Intuitively, sets whose membership is
characterized in “effective” terms, even allowing countable
operations, are Borel. Here are a couple of examples of co-analytic
non-Borel sets in analysis: In the space C( T ), the set of
differentiable functions is co-analytic but not Borel (Mazurkiewicz,
1936) In the space C( T ), the set of functions that can be expanded
in a trigonometric series is co-analytic but not Borel (Ajtai-K, 1987)
Page 66 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Applications of
descriptive set theory Intuitively, sets whose membership is
characterized in “effective” terms, even allowing countable
operations, are Borel. Here are a couple of examples of co-analytic
non-Borel sets in analysis: In the space C( T ), the set of
differentiable functions is co-analytic but not Borel (Mazurkiewicz,
1936) In the space C( T ), the set of functions that can be expanded
in a trigonometric series is co-analytic but not Borel (Ajtai-K, 1987)
Page 67 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Applications of
descriptive set theory In the 1980’s and 1990’s methods of
descriptive set theory were combined with previous work in analysis to
the study of sets of uniqueness. This was primarily developed in
series of papers (and unpublished work) of the following
mathematicians: Debs-Saint Raymond, Kaufman, K-Louveau, K-Louveau-
Woodin, Solovay. The main point is that descriptive set theory
allows one to develop a “global” theory of closed sets of uniqueness,
with many applications to the classical theory. Page 68 Trigonometric
Series and Set theory Applications of descriptive set theory In
the 1980’s and 1990’s methods of descriptive set theory were combined
with previous work in analysis to the study of sets of uniqueness.
This was primarily developed in series of papers (and unpublished
work) of the following mathematicians: Debs-Saint Raymond, Kaufman, K-
Louveau, K-Louveau-Woodin, Solovay. The main point is that descriptive
set theory allows one to develop a “global” theory of closed sets of
uniqueness, with many applications to the classical theory. Page 69
Trigonometric Series and Set theory Applications of descriptive set
theory The appropriate space here is the compact metric space K( T )
of closed subsets of the circle, with the usual Hausdorff metric. One
studies the structure of the following two subsets of this space: U
= {E ∈ K( T ) : E is a set of uniqueness} U 0 = {E ∈ K( T ) :
E is a set of extended uniqueness} The global theory can be
encapsulated in the following main theorem, whose proof is contained
in a series of papers of the above authors. It states three basic
principles that describe the structure of the classes U, U 0 .
Page 70 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Applications of
descriptive set theory The appropriate space here is the compact
metric space K( T ) of closed subsets of the circle, with the usual
Hausdorff metric. One studies the structure of the following two
subsets of this space: U = {E ∈ K( T ) : E is a set of uniqueness}
U 0 = {E ∈ K( T ) : E is a set of extended uniqueness} The
global theory can be encapsulated in the following main theorem, whose
proof is contained in a series of papers of the above authors. It
states three basic principles that describe the structure of the
classes U, U 0 . Page 71 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Applications of descriptive set theory Theorem a) (Stability
property) The sets U,U 0 are calibrated σ-ideals. b) (Descriptive
complexity, I) Both U,U 0 are co-analytic and locally non-Borel,
i.e., for every closed set E not in U (resp., not in U 0 ) the set U
∩ K(E) (resp., U 0 ∩ K(E)) is not Borel. c) (Descriptive
complexity, II) The σ-ideal U 0 admits a Borel basis but the σ-
ideal U does not. Page 72 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Applications of descriptive set theory U has no Borel basis U 0
has a Borel basis Co-analytic Locally non-Borel Calibrated σ-
ideals Page 73 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Applications of
descriptive set theory This theory has numerous applications both in
the solution of classical problems and also in understanding and
proving in a new way previously established results. Page 74
Trigonometric Series and Set theory Applications of descriptive set
theory (Characterization Problem) One can argue that this has a
negative solution in a strong sense, since not only there is no
“explicit” characterization of perfect sets of uniqueness of the
sought after type but also there is no way to characterize such sets
in terms of decomposing them into a countable number of explicitly
characterizable components. Page 75 Trigonometric Series and Set
theory Applications of descriptive set theory Every known until
the early 1980’s closed set of uniqueness could be written as a union
of a countable sequence of simpler uniqueness sets, belonging to a
class denoted by U . This is a Borel class, so the non-basis theorem
shows that there are many new kinds of U-sets. This result can
therefore be viewed as a powerful new existence theorem. For example,
it answers a question of Piatetski-Shapiro, on the existence of U-sets
not expressible as countable unions of so-called H (n) -sets (with
varying n). Page 76 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Applications
of descriptive set theory (Category Problem) This is completely
solved affirmatively in a strong sense, as it follows that every Borel
set of extended uniqueness is of the first category. Equivalently this
means that every Borel set of the second category supports a Rajchman
measure. This in turn has several applications, including in
particular a unified, new and much simpler way of proving some well-
known results in the theory, originally established by various
techniques and constructions. Page 77 Trigonometric Series and Set
theory Applications of descriptive set theory Menshov’s Theorem
says that there are (Lebesgue) null sets that support Rajchman
measures. This is now clear as it well-known that there are comeager
null sets. Thus Menshov’s result is seen as a consequence of the
orthogonality between measure and category. Ivashev-Musatov and
Kaufman have extended Menshov’s Theorem to show that for any function
h there are h-Hausdorff measure 0 closed sets that support Rajchman
measures. The same argument as above applies. The Kahane-Salem (1964)
problem asks whether the set of non-normal numbers supports a Rajchman
measure. This was solved affirmatively by Lyons (1986). Again this
follows form the fact that the set of non-normal numbers is comeager.
Page 78 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Applications of
descriptive set theory Menshov’s Theorem says that there are
(Lebesgue) null sets that support Rajchman measures. This is now clear
as it well-known that there are comeager null sets. Thus Menshov’s
result is seen as a consequence of the orthogonality between measure
and category. Ivashev-Musatov and Kaufman have extended Menshov’s
Theorem to show that for any function h there are h-Hausdorff measure
0 closed sets that support Rajchman measures. The same argument as
above applies. The Kahane-Salem (1964) problem asks whether the set
of non-normal numbers supports a Rajchman measure. This was solved
affirmatively by Lyons (1986). Again this follows form the fact that
the set of non-normal numbers is comeager. Page 79 Trigonometric
Series and Set theory Applications of descriptive set theory
Menshov’s Theorem says that there are (Lebesgue) null sets that
support Rajchman measures. This is now clear as it well-known that
there are comeager null sets. Thus Menshov’s result is seen as a
consequence of the orthogonality between measure and category.
Ivashev- Musatov and Kaufman have extended Menshov’s Theorem to show
that for any function h there are h-Hausdorff measure 0 closed sets
that support Rajchman measures. The same argument as above applies.
The Kahane-Salem (1964) problem asks whether the set of non-normal
numbers supports a Rajchman measure. This was solved affirmatively by
Lyons (1986). Again this follows form the fact that the set of non-
normal numbers is comeager. Page 80 Trigonometric Series and Set
theory Applications of descriptive set theory (The Union Problem)
This is still open, even for the union of two G δ sets. It is
mostly believed that there is a counterexample. The preceding theory
however implies that from a counterexample one obtains a closed set
with properties similar to those obtained by Korner (Helson sets of
multiplicity). Thus conceivably Korner’s Theorem could be useful in
the construction of such a counterexample. Page 81 Trigonometric
Series and Set theory Applications of descriptive set theory There
are several further applications of descriptive set theoretic methods
also to other aspects of the subject, e.g., Lyons’ characterization of
Rajchman measures by their null sets is seen as following from a
general descriptive set theoretic result of Mokobodzki about analytic
classes of measures. Also such ideas have been applied by S. Kahane (a
cousin of J.-P. Kahane) to the solution of some old problems about
other types of thin sets in harmonic analysis. Page 82 Trigonometric
Series and Set theory Conclusion This is where we stand now.
Despite the progress made over the last 150 years many mysteries
remain. Here are for example some intriguing problems that are still
open: Where is the dividing line in the Characterization Problem? E
ξ : characterizable E ξ 1 ,ξ 2 ,... : ??? E in
general: uncharacterizable The Union Problem for G δ sets and for
arbitrary Borel sets. (The Interior Problem, Bari 1927) Is the concept
of set of uniqueness determined by the closed sets, i.e., does a Borel
set of multiplicity contain a closed set of multiplicity? Page 83
Trigonometric Series and Set theory Conclusion This is where we
stand now. Despite the progress made over the last 150 years many
mysteries remain. Here are for example some intriguing problems that
are still open: Where is the dividing line in the Characterization
Problem? E ξ : characterizable E ξ 1 ,ξ 2 ,... : ???
E in general: uncharacterizable The Union Problem for G δ sets and
for arbitrary Borel sets. (The Interior Problem, Bari 1927) Is the
concept of set of uniqueness determined by the closed sets, i.e., does
a Borel set of multiplicity contain a closed set of multiplicity? Page
84 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Conclusion This is where we
stand now. Despite the progress made over the last 150 years many
mysteries remain. Here are for example some intriguing problems that
are still open: Where is the dividing line in the Characterization
Problem? E ξ : characterizable E ξ 1 ,ξ 2 ,... : ??? E
in general: uncharacterizable The Union Problem for G δ sets and
for arbitrary Borel sets. (The Interior Problem, Bari 1927) Is the
concept of set of uniqueness determined by the closed sets, i.e., does
a Borel set of multiplicity contain a closed set of multiplicity?
Page 85 Trigonometric Series and Set theory Conclusion This is
where we stand now. Despite the progress made over the last 150 years
many mysteries remain. Here are for example some intriguing problems
that are still open: Where is the dividing line in the
Characterization Problem? E ξ : characterizable E ξ 1 ,ξ 2
,... : ??? E in general: uncharacterizable The Union Problem for G
δ sets and for arbitrary Borel sets. (The Interior Problem, Bari
1927) Is the concept of set of uniqueness determined by the closed
sets, i.e., does a Borel set of multiplicity contain a closed set of
multiplicity? Page 86 Trigonometric Series and Set theory
Conclusion This is where we stand now. Despite the progress made
over the last 150 years many mysteries remain. Here are for example
some intriguing problems that are still open: Where is the dividing
line in the Characterization Problem? E ξ : characterizable E ξ
1 ,ξ 2 ,... : ??? E in general: uncharacterizable The Union
Problem for G δ sets and for arbitrary Borel sets. (The Interior
Problem, Bari 1927) Is the concept of set of uniqueness determined by
the closed sets, i.e., does a Borel set of multiplicity contain a
closed set of multiplicity?

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Someone wrote:

SR ignores symmetry:
E E
= =
E = MCCM = E
= =
E E


Would someone else please write that out in intelligible notation?

Archie


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[Click the star to watch this topic] E = MCCa
E E = = E = MCCM = E = = E E d

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Re: E = MCCa

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"a 3" <scrib...@salesperson.net> wrote in message
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Thanks!

I guess you are using some kind of magical reader!

I see no star, and as of yet no sense in what shows up here:

E = MCCa

EE = = E = MCCM = E = = EE d.

Archie


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adamk

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> "a 3" <scrib...@salesperson.net> wrote in message
> news:ecf7503b-d484-44ec-a593-89e0c4664187@r36g2000vbn.

> googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 19, 8:22 am, "archie" <arc...@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> > Someone wrote:
> >
> > SR ignores symmetry:
> > E E
> > = =
> > E = MCCM = E
> > = =
> > E E
> >
> > Would someone else please write that out in
> intelligible notation?
> >
> > Archie
>
> [Click the star to watch this topic] E = MCCa
> E E = = E = MCCM = E = = E E d
>
> Thanks!
>
> I guess you are using some kind of magical reader!
>
> I see no star, and as of yet no sense in what shows
> up here:
>
> E = MCCa
>
> EE = = E = MCCM = E = = EE d.
>
> Archie
>
>
Do you really want to spend your time talking with
low-IQ psychotic musatov?. Run before you get sucked
in to a pointless , time-draining experience that
leads nowhere useful. I did not, and here I am
talking with the equivalent of a rock--the dumbest
, most mentally-disturbed rock one could find.
this Psycho - drama

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On Aug 19, 4:46 pm, hdbanannah <hdbanan...@aol.com> wrote:
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That is the complete quote.

Is this a problem of readers?


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On Aug 19, 4:46 pm, hdbanannah <hdbanan...@aol.com> wrote:
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oh. your first was in error. and this one not responding to me but to the
thread subject line.

ok


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hdbanannah

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Aug 20, 2009, 4:34:45 AM8/20/09
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Nope, sorry.

Musatov

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Aug 31, 2009, 3:49:22 AM8/31/09
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Suppose what if it were the case that mathematicians worth their salt
would have long ago realized that E = (mc^2) / (1 - Time of
observation / current Local Time: Mon, Sep 1 2009 12:39 am = The
Answer to many questions?

To put it concisely:
What if mathematicians worth their salt should realize that E =
(mc^2) / (1 - ..... Local: Mon, Aug 17 2009 12:32 am. ?

Musatov

Musatov

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Aug 31, 2009, 3:49:24 AM8/31/09
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It was asked :

Musatov

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Aug 31, 2009, 3:51:12 AM8/31/09
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tadchem

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Aug 31, 2009, 5:20:14 AM8/31/09
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Standard or daylight savings time?

Which Time Zone?

Which Calendar?

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA

Ahmed Ouahi, Architect

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Aug 31, 2009, 8:29:28 AM8/31/09
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The point in a fact, is that, would an answer be only and only to one a
single question, that none would be having any ability to do anything along
that matter, out of an eventual manipulation to any calculation along that
matter as along a specifical goal...

However, simply, as for instance, when beta, as usually would be aroud
1/1836 and an alpha along its structuration would be almost 1/137...

Whatsoever, as the beta, would a definitely be along an energy process, that
would make the stars, which along the alpha the center of the stars would
not be enough to allow at all any nuclear reaction...

Therefore, as when the beta would passes around a 0.005 alpha�, then along
that matter would not be anything as would not be any stars neither...

However, when the alpha would be among around 1/180 and 1/85 as the protons
would a definitely end themeselves even before any star could be existing...

Therefore, when it would be, for instance, that the alpha, would be running
against the beta, something which a definitely would manipulate to more
force any strength along any nuclear strong force...

Therefore, as alpha, as a both along especially the alpha, would a
definitely be somehow less of some alpha > 0.3 alpha coef.�, as along that
moment no element, for instance, as a carbon would exist as no organic
chemestry neither, means no life all along, and this is what is all about
along that matter, a definitely as a matter a fact...

--
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Best Regards!


"Musatov" <scri...@yahoo.com> kirjoitti
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jmfbahciv

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Aug 31, 2009, 9:04:58 AM8/31/09
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Which galaxy?

/BAH

adamk

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Aug 31, 2009, 1:21:18 PM8/31/09
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There is already a list of three threats, there is a
copy of slurs against jews, and more than enough to get rid of this asshole. If anyone wants
to get serious abount getting this asshole out of here,
let me know. Otherwise, cut the pretense.

adamk

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Aug 31, 2009, 7:38:35 PM8/31/09
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> On Aug 16, 1:41 am, "M.M.M."
> <marty.musa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 15, 10:41 pm, adamk <ad...@adamk.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > (Musatov's cross-posting omitted)
> >
> > > > Vandals like yourself, Musatov, claim to have
> an
> > > > > >
> > If you are what is it to me?
> >
> > she can step over.
> >
> > You refer to someone else here by your word.
> >
> > This is a leftover
> >
> > >  attitude from the not-too-bright kids in
> highschool
> >
> > I do not know you so I may not speculate in
> fairness
> about your high school experience
> >
> > >  towards the smart ones.
> >
> > --Musatov
>
> Sa0-tan may have you

he's had your mom already.


>
> 1am moving on
>
>
> read it - the truth
>

> stop with your lies.

Make me.


>
> I warned you once and I need not do it 3 or 5 times

Or else?


>
> but once
>
> in faith
> I finished High School fine. I got straight A's one
> semester.

And flunked every other one.
>
> I attended Afucka Ramsey Retard College in Coon-Ass
> Minnesota
> for less than a year. (I could not handle it; as you see, I am not very bright)Following this I transferred to


> Metropolitan
> State University in St. Paul, Minnesota as a Business
> Finance Major,
> during this time I obtained my NASD Series 6
> licensing

That you can train an ape to get , in less than half
the time you got yours.

and got a
> part-time job as a Mutual Funds 'Transfer Agent' at
> American Express
> Financial Advisors,

lying and ripping people off.


butred the possibility of it as


> a career, and
> I had always been pretty imaginative and a fairly
> strong writer

(biting tongue, burst out laughing)


so
> I pondered it, and after when particularly harsh
> Accounting class

Every class is harsh when you are an imbecile.

> Professor wanted to give me a NP grade based solely
> on my attendance
> and not my understanding of the material,

you did not understand it anyway. Because you
are an imbecile. On a good day.

I walked
> out, went down

> to the computer lab, pulled down my pants bend down so
thsat my accounting prof. could "weave his magic wand"
and after the week was over, my grades had 'magically'
>improved. Then I found the screenplay for
> ' online'. I loved it. In the next hour I applied for


> internships at
> several major Hollywood production companies and
> Talent Agencies,
> set in my heart I would change my major and spend the
> next two
> summers
> in Los Angeles, and I did, having secured and
> completetd internships
> with MTV Films, Jerry Bruckheimer Films,
> International Creative
> Management, and Village Roadshow Entertainment
> (Australia),

All of whome will be soon receive letters informing
them of your death threats , and your opinions on jews.
This should go well there. So enjoy your rampage while
it lasts.

I went
> on to move to Los Angeles, New Years Day 2002. By
> 2005 I had two
> years as an assistant to two literary agents

Wow, how desperate were they?. I guess no one else was
applying but you, huh?.


and
> completed a
> fellowship for television writers at Century
> Village, secured an
> agent up the ass at one of the top talent agencies in Hollywood,
> and he gave me a


> film I wrote (adapted) set up with $5 Million dollars
> financing,
> and the director of 'The Blair Witch Project' set.
>
>
> Here is the variety article confirming this and my
> involvement:
> http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117940370.html?categ
> oryid=&cs=1&que...
>
>
> Here is my IMDb credit:
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1785783/
>
>
> Here is the film:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solstice_(film)
>
>
> I have since gone on to work in the New
> Media/Business Development
> group at Creative Artists Agency (*the top talent
> agency in the
> world*
> represents Oprah to Tom Cruise to Coca Cola) and
> worked on a Social
> Action driven digital campaignn for eBay co-founder
> and former
> President and CEO, Jeff Skoll, at Participant Media.
>

It does not change the fact that you are an uneducable
imbecile, and lack any ethics.

adamk

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Aug 31, 2009, 7:43:32 PM8/31/09
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> > Sa0-tan may have me anytime. I , AMMM easy.
> >
>
> And I have a Bacherlor of The Arts degree in
> Screenwriting from
> Metropolitan
> State University as part of the University of
> Minnesota State Colleges
> and Universities
> I have also been accredited a professor and community
> faculty member
> supervising
> on occasion indpendent studies of screenwriting
> majors in Minnesota,
> mentoring them
> and speaking to groups on occasion.

They will soon find out about your death threats.
Thanks for letting me know. Enjoy it while you can.

>
> I see my analytical skills

??. I guess this is your imagination going wild.

and imagination as far
> more important than
> your
> perception of my intelligence.
>
> I see it this way because regardless of what you
> perceive, the truth
> exists.
>

Wow, how deep. No wonder your scripts are the shit
they are, you superficial twat.

> Truth does not depend on perception, nor even
> observation to exist.

Superficial twat. A fortune cookie has better lines
than that.


>
> It is not debatable.
>
> Our beliefs and their acceptance are what you debate
> based on your
> perception
> and your perceptions exist independent of truth.

(laughter at painful--and failed -- attempt to appear
deep, or even intelligent )


>
> Truth does not require your perception.

A liar like you should know.
>
> Truth simply is.

You lack any ethics.
>
> It exists.

But you don't.
> M.M.M.
>

-7/9 n n + 1.76666666 + 2/

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Sep 6, 2009, 11:45:44 AM9/6/09
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listen Adam "we got him" , he fell for trap . We will put the "rule of law on him" after a day or so, when our main mathematic business is over, unless he levels up. As a gratitude to Sci math and some of you , we will take care of this fellow through Sci math as a rule of Law. I cannot tell of the serious issues right now, bit I have made sci math formally aware of the violation of law.

This is America, no one can get away with, see what happened to Maddoff and others like him

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