I'm calling you out Eram Semper Recta

[Quantum Bubbles]

Eram Semper Recta has repeatedly claimed to be a genius with an IQ above 160. His "official" IQ. I doubt his claims and have challenged him to prove them with an official supervised Mensa test result.

In order to be fair, I am not challenging someone to do something that I would not be willing to do myself, so I have uploaded my Mensa test results onto YouTube (link below). It isn't a bragging video; I did much better on one of the tests than the other, and my personal details are mostly hidden, but I did qualify for both Mensa and Intertel.

If Mr Eram is a genius as he claims, then he should have no trouble beating my results and also qualifying for Mensa and Intertel. I am not a genius.

British Mensa issues two tests taken in succession; one language based and one visual. Using a standard deviation of 15, which is what Mr Eram seems to be using, my scores (decimal points occur in the conversion between SDs, so I have rounded) would equate to roughly:

Language Test: IQ 129 (Top 2.6%)
Visual Test: IQ 137 (Top 0.7%)

British Mensa seems to think the better percentile score is more accurate because it takes into account your individual thinking style, so it offers membership if you score at least 2 standard deviations above average (roughly top 2% or more) on one of the tests: so IQ 130+, when the SD=15. But whatever, I was recovering from minor surgery and sleep deprivation when I took the tests, so if you can't beat me when I have those disadvantages Mr Eram...

Mr Eram is claiming an IQ above 160, presumably with SD=15, so that would be well within the top 0.001% . I have my doubts, but am happy to be proven wrong.

Here is the link to proof of my results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB_8KBmajME

Will Mr Eram provide proof of his "official" IQ results. We shall wait and see...breathless with anticipation....

Regards

QB

Remain Calm and Keep Loving Real Analysis
[Recommended Book of the Day: An Introduction to Combinatorics, by Alan Slomson]

[Serg io]

Excellent Book of the Day! I got the second edition

[WM]

ross.pro...@gmx.com schrieb am Sonntag, 5. September 2021 um 19:37:56 UTC+2:
> my scores (decimal points occur in the conversion between SDs, so I have rounded) would equate to roughly:
>
> Language Test: IQ 129 (Top 2.6%)
> Visual Test: IQ 137 (Top 0.7%)

This can easily be checked by a simple question:
Do you think that *before* having enumerated all positive fractions at least one fraction must be enumerated in every unit interval (n-1, n], n ∈ ℕ?

Regards, WM

[Dan Christensen]

On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 4:10:11 PM UTC-4, WM wrote:

> Do you think that *before* having enumerated all positive fractions at least one fraction must be enumerated in every unit interval (n-1, n], n ∈ ℕ?
>

When will you learn, Mucke? As we have seen here yet again, all positive rational numbers including those in EVERY interval of Q+ can be enumerated. Deal with it.

Dan

[Archimedes Plutonium]

Bend over, err..James Leech, Rose M Patten says 7 year long nonstop insane stalker Dan Christensen

On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 5:36:06 PM UTC-5, Dan Christensen wrote:
> STUDENTS BEWARE: Don't be a victim of Canada's NSF-- Francois-Philippe Champagne, Justin Trudeau, Ted Hewitt, Sophie Gregoire, Martha Crago, Frederic Bouchard, Cinthia Duclos, Normand Labrie, Linda Hasenfratz, James Leech, Rose M Patten

Bend over, err...Martha Crago, Frederic Bouchard says 7 year long nonstop insane stalker Dan Christensen

On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 10:24:19 PM UTC-5, Dan Christensen wrote:
> STUDENTS BEWARE: Don't be a victim of

On Monday, October 21, 2019 at 1:29:49 PM UTC-5, Dan Christensen wrote:
>
> Are you ready, kids??? Bend over, er...
>
> Dan

>
> Download my DC Proof 2.0 underware at http://www.dcproof.com
> Visit my Math Blog at http://www.dcproof. brown-streak press.com



Permanently banning Dan Christensen from sci.math & sci.physics// And the sacking of Canada's NSF Francois-Philippe Champagne, Ted Hewitt if found paying Dan to stalk Usenet.


On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 7:13:24 PM UTC-5, Dan Christensen wrote:
> STUDENTS BEWARE: Don't be a victim of

Permanently banning Dan Christensen from sci.math & sci.physics// And the sacking of Francois-Philippe Champagne, Ted Hewitt if found paying Dan to stalk Usenet.

Examples of latest odious stalks by Kibo Parry M. who formed a gang of stalkers with Dan Christensen and many others.
On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 6:47:20 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
> ☠️ Dr. Panchanathan of NSF of Math and 🕱 of Physics USA dept of Educ "anti math"


AP writes: AP puts every one of Kibo Parry M. stalker posts through the paper shredder and this is what comes out--

On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 6:47:20 PM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote:
> ☠️ Dr. Panchanathan of NSF of Math and 🕱 of Physics USA dept of Educ "anti math"
>National Science Foundation> fails at math and science:
>
> Fuckdog block spammer of "Dr. Panchanathan" is likely mentally ill
> I recommend banning him and his diseased cats from ever
> posting to sci.math & sci.physics //SCI.MATH FAQ
>
> Unfortunately, NSF and USA dept of Educ doesn't give a f about their Google Groups
> interface, so that will never happen.
>
> Everything you post is a mess.

Is NSF and USA dept of Educ ruining sci.math and sci.physics with their paying a $100 per post to a insane nonstop 28 year stalker of Kibo Parry M. Evidence suggests this is true.

Evidence in favor of Dan Christensen paid $100 per stalker attack posts by Canadian govt.


---quoting Wikipedia ---
Controversy
Many government and university installations blocked, threatened to block, or attempted to shut-down The World's Internet connection until Software Tool & Die was eventually granted permission by the National Science Foundation to provide public Internet access on "an experimental basis."
--- end quote ---


NSF fraud waste abuse of taxpayer money $100 per stalker post-- Champagne,Hewitt,Crago
On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 2:17:31 PM UTC-5, Dan Christensen wrote:
> STUDENTS BEWARE: Don't be a victim

NSF fraud waste abuse of taxpayer money $100 per stalker post--

Canada's NSF-- Francois-Philippe Champagne, Ted Hewitt, Martha Crago, Frederic Bouchard, Cinthia Duclos, Normand Labrie
USA--NSF Dr. Panchanathan, F. Fleming Crim, Dorothy E Aronson, Brian Stone, James S Ulvestad, Rebecca Lynn Keiser, Vernon D. Ross, Lloyd Whitman, John J. Veysey, Scott Stanley

Evidence that Dan Christensen never belonged in sci.math or sci.physics because he is total worthless failure of science.

Here is an example of Dan Christensen fumbling with the most simple of logic reasoning, and yet Canada keeps allowing this misfit to dig deeper into logic.

The stupid Dan Christensen always chokes up when it comes to logic or even just plain commonsense with his 2 OR 1 = 3 and his AND as subtraction.

On Wednesday, January 25, 2017 at 10:08:09 AM UTC-6, Peter Percival wrote:
> Dan Christensen wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 25, 2017 at 9:47:32 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, January 25, 2017 at 8:27:19 AM UTC-6, Dan Christensen wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2017 at 9:16:52 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> >>>> PAGE58, 8-3, True Geometry / correcting axioms, 1by1 tool, angles of logarithmic spiral, conic sections unified regular polyhedra, Leaf-Triangle, Unit Basis Vector
> >>>>
> >>>> The axioms that are in need of fixing is the axiom that between any two points lies a third new point.
> >>>
> >>> The should be "between and any two DISTINCT points."
> >>>
> >>
> >> What a monsterous fool you are
> >>
> >
> > OMG. You are serious. Stupid and proud of it.
>
> And yet Mr Plutonium is right. Two points are distinct (else they would
> be one) and it is not necessary to say so.
>


Apparently Dan Christensen never took calculus or flunked it with this statement.
On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 8:57:54 AM UTC-5, Dan Christensen wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 2:32:51 AM UTC-4, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> > The nonexistence of a curved angle because there is no way to measure the angle if either one of the rays is not a straightline segment at the vertex,
>
> From the derivative of each curve at the point of contact you have the slopes of their respective tangents there. (Assuming derivatives are defined there.) From these slopes, you should be able to calculate angle formed.
>
>
> Dan

NSF fraud waste abuse of taxpayer money $100 per stalker post-- Champagne,Hewitt,Crago
On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 2:17:31 PM UTC-5, Dan Christensen wrote:
> STUDENTS BEWARE: Don't be a victim

NSF fraud waste abuse of taxpayer money $100 per stalker post--

Canada's NSF-- Francois-Philippe Champagne, Ted Hewitt, Martha Crago, Frederic Bouchard, Cinthia Duclos, Normand Labrie
USA--NSF Dr. Panchanathan, F. Fleming Crim, Dorothy E Aronson, Brian Stone, James S Ulvestad, Rebecca Lynn Keiser, Vernon D. Ross, Lloyd Whitman, John J. Veysey, Scott Stanley


---quoting Wikipedia ---
Controversy
Many government and university installations blocked, threatened to block, or attempted to shut-down The World's Internet connection until Software Tool & Die was eventually granted permission by the National Science Foundation to provide public Internet access on "an experimental basis."
--- end quote ---


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[Serg io]

why ask a question?
*You say you are a math professor so just provide a showing or a proof one way or the other*.


Hints;

"Do you think that *before* having enumerated all positive fractions at least one fraction must be enumerated in every unit interval (n-1, n], n ∈ ℕ?"

1. "Do you think that *before* having enumerated all positive fractions" => means you stopped at k in the enumeration process.

2. "at least one fraction must be enumerated in every unit interval (n-1, n], n ∈ ℕ?" => prove this false by assuming one unit interval does not have a
rational that was enumerated before k, or prove it true that all unit fraction intervals have enumerated rationals in them. SO we find your problem
statement is highly dependent upon k. However all rationals are enumerated, with or without intervals.

Your "intervals" are diversion, as was your Achilles Frames and that poor turtle(who did win).

Also you are using the wrong Alpeh_0, probably that chinese knockoff Alpeh_0 you got off of eBay for $3.95 free shipping. You are using the potentially
infinite defective Chinese Alpeh_0 if you are running out of your numbers for your unspecified intervals.

[Dan Christensen]

STUDENTS BEWARE: Don't be a victim of AP's fake math and science

On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 9:27:30 PM UTC-4, Archimedes Plutonium (AP) wrote:

AP is a malicious internet troll who wants only to mislead and confuse you. He may not be all there, but his fake math and science can only be meant to promote failure in schools. One can only guess at his motives.

Note that AP will often delete his bizarre and hateful postings when his lies are called out, only to repost identical ones moments later in a NEW thread.

Readers should, of course, judge for themselves. In AP's OWN WORDS here:

“Primes do not exist, because the set they were borne from has no division.”
--June 29, 2020

“The last and largest finite number is 10^604.”
--June 3, 2015

“0 appears to be the last and largest finite number”
--June 9, 2015

“0/0 must be equal to 1.”
-- June 9, 2015

“0 is an infinite irrational number.”
--June 28, 2015

“No negative numbers exist.”
--December 22, 2018

“Rationals are not numbers.”
--May 18, 2019

According to AP's “chess board math,” an equilateral triangle is a right-triangle.
--December 11, 2019

Which could explain...

“The value of sin(45 degrees) = 1.”
--May 31, 2019

AP deliberately and repeatedly presented the truth table for OR as the truth table for AND:

“New Logic
AND
T & T = T
T & F = T
F & T = T
F & F = F”
--November 9, 2019

AP seeks aid of Russian agents to promote failure in schools:

"Please--Asking for help from Russia-- russian robots-- to create a new, true mathematics [sic]"
--November 9, 2017


And if that wasn't weird enough...

“The totality, everything that there is [the universe], is only 1 atom of plutonium [Pu]. There is nothing outside or beyond this one atom of plutonium.”
--April 4, 1994

“The Universe itself is one gigantic big atom.”
--November 14, 2019

AP's sinister Atom God Cult of Failure???

“Since God-Pu is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Atom Plutonium!
Its truth is marching on.
It has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;
It is sifting out the hearts of people before its judgment seat;
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer it; be jubilant, my feet!
Our God-Pu is marching on.”
--December 15, 2018 (Note: Pu is the atomic symbol for plutonium)


Dan

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[Dan Christensen]

On Sunday, September 5, 2021 at 1:37:56 PM UTC-4, ross.pro...@gmx.com wrote:
> Eram Semper Recta has repeatedly claimed to be a genius with an IQ above 160. His "official" IQ. I doubt his claims and have challenged him to prove them with an official supervised Mensa test result.

Mr. Rectum here has demonstrated no sign of any great intelligence. Quite the contrary. I wouldn't worry about it.

Dan

[zelos...@gmail.com]

how is this relevant?

Q is in bijection with N, get over it already.

[FromTheRafters]

Dan Christensen presented the following explanation :

Forget Mensa, try Densa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Densa

[Jens Stuckelberger]

On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 10:37:50 -0700, Quantum Bubbles wrote:

> Eram Semper Recta has repeatedly claimed to be a genius with an IQ above
> 160.

Anybody give a shit what that buffoon's IQ may, or may not, be?

[Eram semper recta]

On Sunday, 5 September 2021 at 20:37:56 UTC+3, ross.pro...@gmx.com wrote:
> Eram Semper Recta has repeatedly claimed to be a genius with an IQ above 160.

Because I am and you're just a stupid, jealous troll who knows nothing about mathematics - pretty much the same as every idiot on this newsgroup. Do you see who actually cares about my IQ? Indeed! That vile Jew cunt Jens Stueckelberger. LMAO.

> His "official" IQ. I doubt his claims and have challenged him to prove them with an official supervised Mensa test result.

I was tested over 4 decades ago and my IQ was well above 160 including the correction range.

> British Mensa issues two tests taken in succession; one language based and one visual. Using a standard deviation of 15, which is what Mr Eram seems to be using, my scores (decimal points occur in the conversion between SDs, so I have rounded) would equate to roughly:
>
> Language Test: IQ 129 (Top 2.6%)
> Visual Test: IQ 137 (Top 0.7%)

Just as I thought - you're a moron! LMAO.

<drivel>

[Eram semper recta]

Apparently, you do! You stupid Jew fuck!!!!!

[markus...@gmail.com]

And here we have John Gabriel, a 60 year old man claiming to the "the greatest mathematician alive" calling people "stupid Jews".

[Serg io]

"New Calculus" could qualify for Densa for sure, international fame !

[Serg io]

yes!

Mr. Rectum has shown the rare "Variable IQ", an IQ that changes from hour to hour, day to day.


It would be interesting to know what the ranges are and how often he stays there.

...like 1 hour at 80 then another hour at 140 ?

or it could be 2 min at 180, then two days at 60...

or flat lined at 85 ?


or it could be 1 millisecond at 130 and 99 miliseconds at 95 ?

[Quantum Bubbles]

On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 3:29:06 PM UTC+1, Eram semper recta wrote:

"Because I am and you're just a stupid, jealous troll who knows nothing about mathematics - pretty much the same as every idiot on this newsgroup."

What would I be jealous of? I am over 20 years younger than you, I have multiple degrees in subjects I find interesting; nice employment with sufficient free time to pursue a variety of interests or amuse myself on here as I see fit; I just qualified for Mensa (and Intertel) despite recovering from surgery and sleep deprivation at the time I took the tests. Oh yes, and I understand calculus; perhaps my favorite branch of mathematics. So jealous of what exactly?

"I was tested over 4 decades ago and my IQ was well above 160 including the correction range."

Not particularly plausible, but let us entertain ourselves by going along with it for a laugh.

A test score from that long ago would seem to need shrinking by 10-12 points to take account of the Flynn effect, let's say 10 to be kind. Moreover it is not clear what test you could have in mind as many of the most common are ruled out by your lack of high level language skills in English or by the maximum possible IQ rating on the test being too low.

Your standard of English, even leaving aside the near constant use of invective, is not of a particularly high standard. Not terrible, excluding the invective, but not great. Less than mine at my best, and mine is far from fantastic. You would not have been able to take an entirely language based test, like the Cattell III B, or a test including significant language components, like the older Stanford-Binet or Weschler (which also has a general knowledge component), and expect to reach anywhere near the ceiling of that test.

For example, the Stanford-Binet test from 40 years ago would have been version 2 or 3, and was highly verbal in nature. Also, from what I understand (I am happy to be corrected if I have misunderstood), this would have had a standard deviation of 16 and a max score of either 160 or 168 (depending on the form). 168 would equate to 161 when the SD=15. If we now correct the score by incorporating the Flynn effect it shrinks to about IQ 151 by today's standards, but that would be the absolute maximum, but you would not have plausibly obtained that due to the language centered nature of the test.

If you took a test with SD=24, a score of IQ 166 would correspond to about IQ 141 when SD=15. Correct with the Flynn effect and we have an estimate of IQ 131 with SD=15, by today's standards.

The only candidates remaining, to my knowledge, are the culture fair tests, such as Cattell or Ravens Progressive Matrices. The Raven type tests that I have heard of seem to max out below IQ 150 (SD=15), although if anyone knows of a different version that would be interesting to hear about.

The Cattell III A Culture Fair Test, has a ceiling of about 178, when the standard deviation is re-calibrated from 16 to 15, with a maximum of 50 questions that can be answered. An IQ score of above 160 on that test seems to require a near perfect raw score out of 50. The Triple Nine Society for instance seems to need a score of at least 42 or 43, out of 50, and that seems to be evidence for IQ 146 (SD=15) . As the Cattell tests seem to be largely used by various branches of Mensa, if you obtained what would have been a near perfect score on a Mensa supervised test then you should be on Mensa's records and would have no trouble proving the correctness of your claims.

So which test are you claiming to have taken? The 'IQ Self Test' books you find in public libraries don't count I am afraid, even if you get a family member to time you :-) .

"Just as I thought - you're a moron! LMAO."

Not according to Mensa (paying attention :-) ), but in any case, that's "Mr Moron IQ 130+" to the likes of you JG 115, :-) .

Have a nice day.

QB
Remain Calm and Keep Loving Real Analysis

[Recommended Book of the Day: Numbers and Geometry, by John Stillwell]

[FromTheRafters]

Jens Stuckelberger formulated on Monday :

It's probably way up into the double digits.

[Michael Moroney]

On 9/6/2021 2:23 PM, Quantum Bubbles wrote:

> I just qualified for Mensa (and Intertel) despite recovering from surgery and sleep deprivation at the time I took the tests. Oh yes, and I understand calculus; perhaps my favorite branch of mathematics. So jealous of what exactly?

Which test did you take?

I was a member of Mensa about 25 years ago, but I don't remember my
score or which test it was.

[Chris M. Thomasson]

Can you write that response on some paper, and make a video showing it?
Apparently, you have mirroring turned on so the text should be inverted.
Right?

[Chris M. Thomasson]

On 9/6/2021 8:50 AM, Serg io wrote:
> On 9/6/2021 7:45 AM, Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 10:37:50 -0700, Quantum Bubbles wrote:
>>
>>> Eram Semper Recta has repeatedly claimed to be a genius with an IQ above
>>> 160.
>>
>> Anybody give a shit what that buffoon's IQ may, or may not, be?
>>
>
> yes!
>
> Mr. Rectum has shown the rare "Variable IQ", an IQ that changes from hour to hour, day to day.

Is that a new ant?

[Chris M. Thomasson]

On 9/6/2021 11:23 AM, Quantum Bubbles wrote:
> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 3:29:06 PM UTC+1, Eram semper recta wrote:
>
> "Because I am and you're just a stupid, jealous troll who knows nothing about mathematics - pretty much the same as every idiot on this newsgroup."
>
> What would I be jealous of? I am over 20 years younger than you, I have multiple degrees in subjects I find interesting; nice employment with sufficient free time to pursue a variety of interests or amuse myself on here as I see fit; I just qualified for Mensa (and Intertel) despite recovering from surgery and sleep deprivation at the time I took the tests. Oh yes, and I understand calculus; perhaps my favorite branch of mathematics. So jealous of what exactly?

[...]

I remember the good ol' "how many triangles can you see" question in
another test I took way back in the 4'th grade. Wondering if its in the
Mensa test. Basically, asking how many triangles are in a Sierpinski
triangle after n iterations.

[Ross A. Finlayson]

On the idiot scale even Feldmann's an idiot.
(... and he's not an idiot.)

I got a 1520/1600 on the old SAT and 170/180 on the old LSAT.
And I got a 1500/1600 on the computerized GRE.

(And, ..., I was the first one done.)

So I think we can always do better than the troll-bot.

This was about 145 on Stanford-Binet. (Or a qualifier.)

I only share this with you as if it's the basis of your respect,
it's respectable.

I partly attribute my large head to hanging upside-down at
recess in elementary school, while the weather permitted.

(Where otherwise I usually played regularly with my mates.)

My usual habit is to acquire books each few days and read them,
for example "Liao's Levy Processes in Lie Groups", what I have here.


Thanks Ross, I'd appreciate that, thanks, Ross

[Quantum Bubbles]

Hi Michael,

There are two tests that are taken consecutively with British Mensa: Cattell III B and Cattell III A (Culture Fair). I have been informed that some other branches of Mensa in other countries, such as Argentina, use the same battery. Those are the tests that I took. I think Mensa US uses a different battery, but they might have used the Cattell ones in the past.

Fair point about it being difficult to remember a specific test name from that far back, that is perhaps asking too much (if it never happened then it could be even more difficult :-) ). By his account Mr Gabriel would have been under 19 years old when he was tested, and apparently in South Africa. Was there even a SA branch of Mensa in the 1970s?

In any case, you would imagine someone who had been professionally assessed and rated a 'genius' in IQ terms as a teenager would have been offered rather rare tertiary educational opportunities ...

Kind Regards

QB

[Quantum Bubbles]

On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 8:37:16 PM UTC+1, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:

> On the idiot scale even Feldmann's an idiot.
> (... and he's not an idiot.)
>
> I got a 1520/1600 on the old SAT and 170/180 on the old LSAT.
> And I got a 1500/1600 on the computerized GRE.
>
> (And, ..., I was the first one done.)
>
> So I think we can always do better than the troll-bot.
>
> This was about 145 on Stanford-Binet. (Or a qualifier.)
>
> I only share this with you as if it's the basis of your respect,
> it's respectable.
>
> I partly attribute my large head to hanging upside-down at
> recess in elementary school, while the weather permitted.
>
> (Where otherwise I usually played regularly with my mates.)
>
> My usual habit is to acquire books each few days and read them,
> for example "Liao's Levy Processes in Lie Groups", what I have here.
>
>
> Thanks Ross, I'd appreciate that, thanks, Ross

Hi Ross,

I'm just joking around really with the IQ thing, because of the implausible blustering of Mr Gabriel. Your score sounds very respectable, higher than mine, but is certainly not required for my respect. I don't rate myself as being brilliant or even close. There are some things I am proficient at, some things I am competent at, some things I can barely do at a stretch, and many more things I am useless at. Like most people I would imagine.

The main reason I took the Mensa test was because I had suffered from depression and OCD for some years, which can affect mental agility or sharpness whilst suffering from them. I had slowly but surely recovered from them, but still felt mentally sluggish compared to what I remember being before I suffered those conditions, and wanted 'my old self' back. I decided that training myself for the Mensa tests would be a good way of training my mind to speed up again, which would give me some of my confidence back. I think of timed IQ tests as a way of testing short term mental agility (speed), rather than being some defining measure of absolute 'intelligence' (whatever that is). Richard Feynman apparently scored IQ 125 in his school based IQ test, but is plausibly considered a genius by many people. I am not a genius in any sense.

Had I taken the tests even 18 months previously, I would not have performed as well as I did. But my strategy seemed to work, and now I can join special interest groups if I wish, so happy days. Part of the secret: regular aerobic exercise.

I am afraid you have me at a disadvantage concerning Feldmann, as I do not know who that is :-) .

Kind Regards
QB

[Serg io]

On 9/6/2021 2:28 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 9/6/2021 8:50 AM, Serg io wrote:
>> On 9/6/2021 7:45 AM, Jens Stuckelberger wrote:
>>> On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 10:37:50 -0700, Quantum Bubbles wrote:
>>>
>>>> Eram Semper Recta has repeatedly claimed to be a genius with an IQ above
>>>> 160.
>>>
>>>     Anybody give a shit what that buffoon's IQ may, or may not, be?
>>>
>>
>> yes!
>>
>> Mr. Rectum has shown the rare "Variable IQ", an IQ that changes from hour to hour, day to day.
>
> Is that a new ant?

absoluty, and a new discovery and invention by our own JG, Variable IQ Ants

[Serg io]

On 9/6/2021 2:37 PM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 11:23:44 AM UTC-7, ross.pro...@gmx.com wrote:
>> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 3:29:06 PM UTC+1, Eram semper recta wrote:
>>
>> "Because I am and you're just a stupid, jealous troll who knows nothing about mathematics - pretty much the same as every idiot on this newsgroup."
>> What would I be jealous of? I am over 20 years younger than you, I have multiple degrees in subjects I find interesting; nice employment with sufficient free time to pursue a variety of interests or amuse myself on here as I see fit; I just qualified for Mensa (and Intertel) despite recovering from surgery and sleep deprivation at the time I took the tests. Oh yes, and I understand calculus; perhaps my favorite branch of mathematics. So jealous of what exactly?
>> "I was tested over 4 decades ago and my IQ was well above 160 including the correction range."
>> Not particularly plausible, but let us entertain ourselves by going along with it for a laugh.
>>
>> A test score from that long ago would seem to need shrinking by 10-12 points to take account of the Flynn effect, let's say 10 to be kind. Moreover it is not clear what test you could have in mind as many of the most common are ruled out by your lack of high level language skills in English or by the maximum possible IQ rating on the test being too low.
>>
>> Your standard of English, even leaving aside the near constant use of invective, is not of a particularly high standard. Not terrible, excluding the invective, but not great. Less than mine at my best, and mine is far from fantastic. You would not have been able to take an entirely language based test, like the Cattell III B, or a test including significant language components, like the older Stanford-Binet or Weschler (which also has a general knowledge component), and expect to reach anywhere near the ceiling of that test.
>>
>> For example, the Stanford-Binet test from 40 years ago would have been version 2 or 3, and was highly verbal in nature. Also, from what I understand (I am happy to be corrected if I have misunderstood), this would have had a standard deviation of 16 and a max score of either 160 or 168 (depending on the form). 168 would equate to 161 when the SD=15. If we now correct the score by incorporating the Flynn effect it shrinks to about IQ 151 by today's standards, but that would be the absolute maximum, but you would not have plausibly obtained that due to the language centered nature of the test.
>>
>> If you took a test with SD=24, a score of IQ 166 would correspond to about IQ 141 when SD=15. Correct with the Flynn effect and we have an estimate of IQ 131 with SD=15, by today's standards.
>>
>> The only candidates remaining, to my knowledge, are the culture fair tests, such as Cattell or Ravens Progressive Matrices. The Raven type tests that I have heard of seem to max out below IQ 150 (SD=15), although if anyone knows of a different version that would be interesting to hear about.
>>
>> The Cattell III A Culture Fair Test, has a ceiling of about 178, when the standard deviation is re-calibrated from 16 to 15, with a maximum of 50 questions that can be answered. An IQ score of above 160 on that test seems to require a near perfect raw score out of 50. The Triple Nine Society for instance seems to need a score of at least 42 or 43, out of 50, and that seems to be evidence for IQ 146 (SD=15) . As the Cattell tests seem to be largely used by various branches of Mensa, if you obtained what would have been a near perfect score on a Mensa supervised test then you should be on Mensa's records and would have no trouble proving the correctness of your claims.
>>
>> So which test are you claiming to have taken? The 'IQ Self Test' books you find in public libraries don't count I am afraid, even if you get a family member to time you :-) .
>> "Just as I thought - you're a moron! LMAO."
>> Not according to Mensa (paying attention :-) ), but in any case, that's "Mr Moron IQ 130+" to the likes of you JG 115, :-) .
>>
>> Have a nice day.
>> QB
>> Remain Calm and Keep Loving Real Analysis
>> [Recommended Book of the Day: Numbers and Geometry, by John Stillwell]
>
> On the idiot scale even Feldmann's an idiot.
> (... and he's not an idiot.)
>
> I got a 1520/1600 on the old SAT and 170/180 on the old LSAT.
> And I got a 1500/1600 on the computerized GRE.

jesus dude, that is high, nosebleed high, how big is your head ? and on the old sat too,

how much did they dumb down the new sat ?
I forgot what score I made on the GRE, it was very good though

>
> (And, ..., I was the first one done.)
>
> So I think we can always do better than the troll-bot.
>
> This was about 145 on Stanford-Binet. (Or a qualifier.)
>
> I only share this with you as if it's the basis of your respect,
> it's respectable.
>
> I partly attribute my large head to hanging upside-down at
> recess in elementary school, while the weather permitted.

thats it! Ill make them do that even when it rains or snows...

>
> (Where otherwise I usually played regularly with my mates.)
>
> My usual habit is to acquire books each few days and read them,
> for example "Liao's Levy Processes in Lie Groups", what I have here.

my hobbie is picking up non fiction books at garage sales in this university neighborhood, reading instead of tv

[Serg io]

Ive worked with many PHDs in Physics, and in my view 1/2 are nuts, So of the very intellegent My view is that about 1/2 are highly sucessful in the
world and the other 1/2 are LAMO cannot function well in society.

If you ever got the Mensa Mag, and read the input from members, you can see what I mean.

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[Chris M. Thomasson]

Engineering disease?

[Ross A. Finlayson]

Of course "Feldmann is Denny Feldmann, ...."

Thank you if you'll excuse me I plan to regurgitate at some point.


If it's just "making logical closures" then logic can make "1000 IQ, idiot".
(Or rather, "idiot, 1000 IQ".)

Which though is closed, or, physics is always an open system....

I studied the range of intelligence tests as what according to the
meritocracy, my idea was that it was entirely based on those tests.

On the test scale....

So, it would be indistinguishable if I was just good at tests or
having a 1000 IQ, without for example another corpus.

Which I have here as a mathematics and a logic.

And a physics....

Excuse me, kind of snuck up on that one.

Directly though I'd hope you'd agree.

I wrote another longer post here to you first,
this is for us and yous.

[Eram semper recta]

Only the vile Jews on this newsgroup who have opposed me out of jealousy and malice. Heh, what they didn't know is that I am a Jew too! LMAO.

Bunch of stupid cranks - ALL of you!

[Eram semper recta]

On Monday, 6 September 2021 at 21:23:44 UTC+3, ross.pro...@gmx.com wrote:
> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 3:29:06 PM UTC+1, Eram semper recta wrote:
>
> "Because I am and you're just a stupid, jealous troll who knows nothing about mathematics - pretty much the same as every idiot on this newsgroup."

> What would I be jealous of? I am over 20 years younger than you, I have multiple degrees in subjects I find interesting; nice employment with sufficient free time to pursue a variety of interests or amuse myself on here as I see fit; I just qualified for Mensa ...

Oopsie! You just made your first mistake! To qualify for Mensa, you need to score at least 140. You missed the mark, you stupid crank! ROFLMA.


<drivel>

[Eram semper recta]

Faaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrt!

MORONey, your IQ <<surely>> can't be higher than 91? If that high.... LMFAO.....

<PLONK>

[Eram semper recta]

On Monday, 6 September 2021 at 23:31:03 UTC+3, ross.pro...@gmx.com wrote:
> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 8:14:54 PM UTC+1, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > On 9/6/2021 2:23 PM, Quantum Bubbles wrote:
> >
> > > I just qualified for Mensa (and Intertel) despite recovering from surgery and sleep deprivation at the time I took the tests. Oh yes, and I understand calculus; perhaps my favorite branch of mathematics. So jealous of what exactly?
> > Which test did you take?
> >
> > I was a member of Mensa about 25 years ago, but I don't remember my
> > score or which test it was.
> Hi Michael,
>
> There are two tests that are taken consecutively with British Mensa: Cattell III B and Cattell III A (Culture Fair). I have been informed that some other branches of Mensa in other countries, such as Argentina, use the same battery. Those are the tests that I took. I think Mensa US uses a different battery, but they might have used the Cattell ones in the past.
>
> Fair point about it being difficult to remember a specific test name from that far back, that is perhaps asking too much (if it never happened then it could be even more difficult :-) ). By his account Mr Gabriel would have been under 19 years old when he was tested, and apparently in South Africa. Was there even a SA branch of Mensa in the 1970s?

I was 23 and no, it was in the early 1980s.

>
> In any case, you would imagine someone who had been professionally assessed and rated a 'genius' in IQ terms as a teenager would have been offered rather rare tertiary educational opportunities ...

I had several bursaries and study grants offered to me. I dropped out of university after completing two years of a triple major in Mathematics, Applied Mathematics and Computer science. I only got a degree decades later in order to teach as it was required for teaching mathematics.

My lecturers were stupid ass wipes and often I gave the classes. See, I had taught myself the bullshit formulation of mainstream calculus by the time I was 14 years old. You were probably still discovering your willy at that time? LMAO.

What is your real name, you cowardly dog? I'd love to put you on benefits.

You can get away with harassment on sci.math by disguising yourself as the true coward that you are, but not for long.

Trust me, I shall find out who you are. Prof. Gilbert Strang did not believe me. Result: Port563 is no longer here. :)

>
> Kind Regards
>
> QB

[zelos...@gmail.com]

Why would he tell his name when you are clearly going to cause harm cause you are so immature?

[Eram semper recta]

On Tuesday, 7 September 2021 at 09:35:31 UTC+3, Eram semper recta wrote:
> On Monday, 6 September 2021 at 23:31:03 UTC+3, ross.pro...@gmx.com wrote:
> > On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 8:14:54 PM UTC+1, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > On 9/6/2021 2:23 PM, Quantum Bubbles wrote:
> > >
> > > > I just qualified for Mensa (and Intertel) despite recovering from surgery and sleep deprivation at the time I took the tests. Oh yes, and I understand calculus; perhaps my favorite branch of mathematics. So jealous of what exactly?
> > > Which test did you take?
> > >
> > > I was a member of Mensa about 25 years ago, but I don't remember my
> > > score or which test it was.
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > There are two tests that are taken consecutively with British Mensa: Cattell III B and Cattell III A (Culture Fair). I have been informed that some other branches of Mensa in other countries, such as Argentina, use the same battery. Those are the tests that I took. I think Mensa US uses a different battery, but they might have used the Cattell ones in the past.
> >
> > Fair point about it being difficult to remember a specific test name from that far back, that is perhaps asking too much (if it never happened then it could be even more difficult :-) ). By his account Mr Gabriel would have been under 19 years old when he was tested, and apparently in South Africa. Was there even a SA branch of Mensa in the 1970s?
> I was 23 and no, it was in the early 1980s.
> >
> > In any case, you would imagine someone who had been professionally assessed and rated a 'genius' in IQ terms as a teenager would have been offered rather rare tertiary educational opportunities ...
> I had several bursaries and study grants offered to me. I dropped out of university after completing two years of a triple major in Mathematics, Applied Mathematics and Computer science. I only got a degree decades later in order to teach as it was required for teaching mathematics.

I attended the university of the Witwatersrand first. Many decades later I enrolled at UCT to complete a computer science degree (only because I needed it to teach). The fools who ran the department wanted me to test out of 1st year even though I had passed 1st year with first class passes at Wits (My average at Wits for all subjects was 1st class including <<mathematics>>) and had 24 years software development under my belt (*). I was earning more than anyone I knew with a PhD in computer science. I had over $1 million in my bank accounts, 2 paid off houses (one of them was more of a villa, rather than an ordinary house), a black visa card with $100k of my own in it, ZERO debt, excellent credit, brand new special edition car which I also paid for in cash .... I could carry on.

(*) The head of the department was a Scott idiot with whom I clashed fiercely. Surprising because in my past experience I found Scotts to be the most intelligent of all the UK inhabitants. I don't remember his name (piss and shit on him anyway!) but he told me that he would not enter a plane if he designed the software. I told him that I would feel safest if I designed the software. The guy was a fucking moron deluxe.

So I told the idiots of the UCT computer science department that they could fuck themselves and approached the UCT math department. I was accepted but I ended up with a bunch of ignorant morons that were even more intransigent than those of the computer science department. I could tell you some stories here Mr. Low IQ Coward Quantum Bubbles, but I won't bother.

I acquired a BSc degree in the USA in 2005. Tried to teach for two years in America's failed public school system and it did not work. I couldn't go back to software development because of eye issues. In 2007, I had a moment of temporary insanity which led to me giving away all my money and possessions intended to kill myself. To avoid homelessness, I went and taught in China for 3 years (on and off because of different contracts). That's where my lungs almost gave up on me. Was in ICU for 3 weeks when I left Shijiazhuang - a proper sewer if ever there was one. They didn't think I would survive but I did! Chuckle.

Want to know more of my interesting Bio? Tell me who you are first! LMAO.

Man, none of the scum on this newsgroup could walk a mile in my shoes and certainly none are worthy enough to lick my arse and that includes YOU especially!

[Eram semper recta]

Because he is harassing me. I think reaching this conclusion might be too advanced for you! :)

Generally, I cause a lot of harm to those who harm me and I never forget. I shall harm you in a heartbeat if the opportunity arises - you'd better believe it, you vile, lying piece of shit MALUM!

[zelos...@gmail.com]

Arguing with you on one forum does not harassment make.

I have harmed you in no way. I have caused you no damage, no harm, nothing.

It is not my fault the internet views you as a crank.
It is not my fault you're homeless.
It is not my fault you're jobless.
It is not my fault your personality is unemployable.
It is not my fault your name is associated with crankery.

At least 3 of those are your fault and I would suspect all 5, but I have no part in any of those. All I have done is being on the forums you've been, pointing out what a crank you and showing where you are wrong.

That does not constitute harm (if it does, guess what, you are no better off and in fact probably more guilty!).
You're the one that seeks to actively cause harm to people, even if you had a job somewhere doing something. I wouldn't do anything to your employment, your life or anything. The one exception is if you said these things and supposedly taught them and then I have no intent on ruining your life, that will just be a byproduct, I am just making sure the students gets proper education as you clearly do not understand the material enough to teach and I imagine you'd be quite abusive given how temperamental you are at the slightest hint of challenging your ego.

Now if you went to my employer and said that I tell these mathematical things and such, I can show them that mathematics agree with me, show that I know it and can even get in third parties of their choosing that can confirm what I teach is correct. If they did the same with you you'd be outed as the crank you are because any unbiased knowledgeable mathematician will disagree with you if picked at random. So even if this had hypothetical had happened it would still be your fault because the issue isn't that I called there. The issue is you teach wrong stuff and out yourself, so it would go back to being your fault.

[Dan Christensen]

On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 7:26:58 AM UTC-4, I am Super Rectum (aka John Gabriel (JG), Troll Boy) wrote:

> I (JG) attended the university of the Witwatersrand first.

Seems HIGHLY unlikely given your lack of mastery of even basic elementary-school arithmetic. Sorry, Troll Boy, but 1/2 is ALWAYS equal to 2/4. And 1-:-3 is ALWAYS equal to 1/3. And 0.999... is ALWAYS equal to 1.

JG here claims to have a discovered a shortcut to mastering calculus without using limits. Unfortunately for him, this means he has no workable a definition of the derivative of a function. It blows up for functions as simple f(x)=|x|. Or even f(x)=0. As a result, he has had to ban 0, negative numbers and instantaneous rates of change rendering his goofy little system quite useless. What a moron!

Forget calculus. JG has also banned all axioms because he cannot even derive the most elementary results of basic arithmetic, e.g. 2+2=4. Such results require the use of axioms, so he must figure he's now off the hook. Again, what a moron!

Even at his advanced age (60+?), John Gabriel is STILL struggling with basic, elementary-school arithmetic. As he has repeatedly posted here:

"There are no points on a line."
--April 12, 2021

"Pi is NOT a number of ANY kind!"
--July 10, 2020

"1/2 not equal to 2/4"
--October 22, 2017

“1/3 does NOT mean 1 divided by 3 and never has meant that”
-- February 8, 2015

"3 =< 4 is nonsense.”
--October 28, 2017

"Zero is not a number."
-- Dec. 2, 2019

"0 is not required at all in mathematics, just like negative numbers."
-- Jan. 4, 2017

“There is no such thing as an empty set.”
--Oct. 4, 2019

“3 <=> 2 + 1 or 3 <=> 8 - 5, etc, are all propositions” (actually all are meaningless gibberish)
--Oct. 22, 2019

No math genius our JG, though he actually lists his job title as “mathematician” at Linkedin.com. Apparently, they do not verify your credentials.

Though really quite disturbing, interested readers should see: “About the spamming troll John Gabriel in his own words...” (lasted updated March 10, 2020) at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.math/PcpAzX5pDeY/1PDiSlK_BwAJ

Dan

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[Serg io]

considering JG is always wrong on math, he will flunk the math part totally, a zero. That probably extends into the logic sections of the test as well.
And considering that english is not his first language, the verbal and written sections suffer.

I propose that We, in this newsgroup, all Help JG with with his IQ test.

[markus...@gmail.com]

So everyone here opposed to you is a Jew?

[markus...@gmail.com]

How can you "drop out" if you finished your degree?

[Michael Moroney]

On 9/7/2021 2:29 AM, Eram semper recta wrote:
> On Monday, 6 September 2021 at 22:14:54 UTC+3, Michael MORONey wrote:
>> On 9/6/2021 2:23 PM, Quantum Bubbles wrote:
>>
>>> I just qualified for Mensa (and Intertel) despite recovering from surgery and sleep deprivation at the time I took the tests. Oh yes, and I understand calculus; perhaps my favorite branch of mathematics. So jealous of what exactly?
>> Which test did you take?
>>
>> I was a member of Mensa about 25 years ago, but I don't remember my
>> score or which test it was.
>
> Faaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrt!

Whoops! You just lost about half of your IQ points!

>
> MORONey, your IQ <<surely>> can't be higher than 91? If that high.... LMFAO.....

Sorry to tell you that it is at least as high as their minimum (which is
the top 2%). Again, I don't remember the test scores, other than none
of them was a single number called IQ. This was over 25 years ago.

Should I rejoin Mensa just to show you my "Welcome Back" letter or their
ID card or whatever they do when I do? (you don't have to retake the
tests when you rejoin after a lapse. I just didn't renew membership)
>
> <PLONK>
>
If that is true, I expect never to see a reply from you to me again,
especially as a reply to this post. But I know it's an empty response,
just like Julian who plonks everyone but replies to everyone anyway.

[Julio Di Egidio]

You idea of true is just as invaluable as your idea of what's appropriate behaviour in a newsgroup...

Stop spamming the Usenet and go get a real job.

*Plonk*

Julio

[Michael Moroney]

Thanks for your reply. JG responded he was 23 when tested. I am no
shrink but I will mention that schizophrenia often strikes someone in
their 20s. It is entirely possible JG did score high on tests before he
became schizophrenic (if that's what his issue is, again I am not a
shrink) and became the JG we see here. Given his beliefs and attitude,
he couldn't score very high today.

[Michael Moroney]

See what I mean, that's probably the 100th time he's plonked me yet he
still responds. Meaning he never plonked me.
>
> Julio

Sorry I wrote Julian, not Julio.

[Eram semper recta]

Malum, you're a nobody. I am not referring to you. I keep making a fool out of you and everyone knows what an idiot your are.

Heard the expression "small fish"? That's what you are! LMAO

[Eram semper recta]

Perhaps you should learn to read properly?

[Quantum Bubbles]

On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC+1, Eram semper recta wrote:


"Oopsie! You just made your first mistake! To qualify for Mensa, you need to score at least 140. You missed the mark, you stupid crank! ROFLMA."

Wrong.

On their websites Mensa will tell you that you need to score in the top 2%. So that's the percentile measure. In practice however this translates into 2 standard deviations above average or better, whatever the standard deviation (SD) might be.

The actual IQ number required will differ between tests if the standard deviation differs.

Your 140 requirement would imply a standard deviation of 20, which none of the widely used tests actually have. The 3 values in common use are SD = 24, SD = 16 and SD = 15.

To illustrate:

If the Mensa test uses SD = 24, then they need a minimum score of 148
If the Mensa test uses SD = 16, then they need a minimum score if 132
If the Mensa test uses SD = 15, then you need a minimum score of 130 (some might prefer 131).

[This information is stated on the British Mensa website.]

The two tests that I took had different standard deviations: SD = 24 for the language test, and a SD = 16 for the culture fair test. I have recalled the scores for both to SD = 15 for ease of communication as that is what most people that talk about IQ seem to have in mind (for whatever reason).

On the language test I scored IQ 147 , which translates into IQ 129 when you re-scale to SD = 15

On the culture fair test I scored IQ 140, which translates into IQ 137.5 on a SD=15 scale, which I have rounded down to IQ 137.

As I explained in the video, the IQ value itself is meaningless without knowing the standard deviation. The IQ score is also not necessarily the same thing as the raw score on the test used (A test might have 150 questions, so a maximum possible raw score of 150 but have an IQ celing of 135, corresponding to a perfect raw score).

What matters are the percentiles. Mensa seems to accept any percentile better than the top 2.3% (although they might say top 2% for simplicity).

My percentiles were Top 2.6% for the language test, and top 0.63% for the culture fair test, which I have simplified to top 0.7%. So neither moron nor genius in my case. But anyway, as top 0.7% is better than top 2%, I qualified for Mensa, and they told me as such in writing (they have offered me membership, as I show in the video).

Intertel requires a test result of top 1% or better, so I qualified for them as well, although I have no interest in joining them.

Triple Nine Society requires top 0.1%, which I did not obtain (oh diddums).

By the sounds of it, assuming any truth to it at all, you are either misremembering a raw score as an IQ score (which makes your claim meaningless), or are wrongly assuming a standard deviation of 15 rather than 24, in which case your 160 or so IQ would actually be in the low 140 range when re-scaled to SD = 15, and then reduced to the 130 range after being corrected for the Flynn effect.

One way of tryng to figure it out: was it solely a culture fair test that you passed on, or a language based test?

"I was 23 and no, it was in the early 1980s. "

You have indicated your age to be between 58 - 60 several times. If your test was over 4 decades ago, then simple arithmetic puts you in you at 20 or probably younger. If you keep giving inconsistent details about yourself...

"I had several bursaries and study grants offered to me. I dropped out of university after completing two years of a triple major in Mathematics, Applied Mathematics and Computer science. I only got a degree decades later in order to teach as it was required for teaching mathematics."

Bursaries and scholarships aren't uncommon offerings for undergraduates. And by your own account your later degree was comp sci, not mathematics. So as long suspected; you do not have a degree in mathematics. Thanks for clearing that up.

"My lecturers were stupid ass wipes and often I gave the classes."

And yet they were generous enough not to fail you? Or was it headed that way and that is why you dropped out? In any case, its not uncommon for students to be given the opportunity to gain experience at presentation skills by helping to give basic lessons, or coursework assistance sessions. It also helps to prepare them for oral examinations. [I used to work for the university system, so you will have to try harder to impress me]. A real genius would have played to his strengths and asked to focus on the computer science pathway.

"See, I had taught myself the bullshit formulation of mainstream calculus by the time I was 14 years old. You were probably still discovering your willy at that time? LMAO."

Trying to read "Calculus Made Easy" at 14? That's cute. I was interested in being a graphic artist when I was 14, but I was reading "Understanding Quantum Mechanics", by Roland Omnes when I was 15. Got interested in QM over the summer break. So what? That doesn't make me a genius, just intellectually curious.

Regards
QB

[markus...@gmail.com]

Oh, so you *didn't* actually finish any degree. Understandable.

[Eram semper recta]

So "42=4x10 + 2" is a logical statement for you, but "[f(x+h)-f(x)]/h = f'(x) + Q(x,h)" is not?! LMAO.

You're a moron, many times over.

[Eram semper recta]

On Tuesday, 7 September 2021 at 21:04:42 UTC+3, ross.pro...@gmx.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 7:28:16 AM UTC+1, Eram semper recta wrote:
>
>
> "Oopsie! You just made your first mistake! To qualify for Mensa, you need to score at least 140. You missed the mark, you stupid crank! ROFLMA."
> Wrong.

YOU are WRONG, idiot. Any IQ above 140 means genius.

You missed the mark badly - no surprise here.

I don't waste time on drivel. You are infinitely stupid.

[Quantum Bubbles]

On Tuesday, September 7, 2021 at 8:55:22 PM UTC+1, Eram semper recta wrote:
"Oopsie! You just made your first mistake! To qualify for Mensa, you need to score at least 140. You missed the mark, you stupid crank! ROFLMA."
> > Wrong.
"YOU are WRONG, idiot. "

Your disagreement should be with Mensa, not with me, I'm just repeating what they have said. But if you want to tell them that their own scoring system is wrong and that 140 is required for the top 2%, then email them.

"Any IQ above 140 means genius. "

An IQ of 140 on SD = 16, which I did obtain on the culture fair test, would be exactly IQ 160 on SD = 24. My language IQ 129 (SD = 15), would be IQ 147 when SD = 24. As I have explained rather thoroughly, the IQ score itself is not meaningful without the standard deviation and isn't that informative even then; it is the percentile that matters and is the informative statistic.

There no definition of genius in terms of IQ that is widely accepted in the literature nowadays. Leaving aside the word genius being somewhat vague, an IQ 141 on SD = 15, would in fact have a corresponding percentile of not quite the top 0.3%, so typical high schools would each have several such people at any given time, so it wouldn't be that special, especially when you consider that there isn't going to be any meaningful difference in practice between those kids and those scoring 135 on the same scale, due to random fluctuations in test results.

Sigh.

Regards
QB

[Ross A. Finlayson]

On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 4:17:30 PM UTC-7, Serg io wrote:
> On 9/6/2021 2:37 PM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:

> > On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 11:23:44 AM UTC-7, ross.pro...@gmx.com wrote:
> >> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 3:29:06 PM UTC+1, Eram semper recta wrote:
> >>
> >> "Because I am and you're just a stupid, jealous troll who knows nothing about mathematics - pretty much the same as every idiot on this newsgroup."

> >> What would I be jealous of? I am over 20 years younger than you, I have multiple degrees in subjects I find interesting; nice employment with sufficient free time to pursue a variety of interests or amuse myself on here as I see fit; I just qualified for Mensa (and Intertel) despite recovering from surgery and sleep deprivation at the time I took the tests. Oh yes, and I understand calculus; perhaps my favorite branch of mathematics. So jealous of what exactly?
> >> "I was tested over 4 decades ago and my IQ was well above 160 including the correction range."
> >> Not particularly plausible, but let us entertain ourselves by going along with it for a laugh.
> >>
> >> A test score from that long ago would seem to need shrinking by 10-12 points to take account of the Flynn effect, let's say 10 to be kind. Moreover it is not clear what test you could have in mind as many of the most common are ruled out by your lack of high level language skills in English or by the maximum possible IQ rating on the test being too low.
> >>
> >> Your standard of English, even leaving aside the near constant use of invective, is not of a particularly high standard. Not terrible, excluding the invective, but not great. Less than mine at my best, and mine is far from fantastic. You would not have been able to take an entirely language based test, like the Cattell III B, or a test including significant language components, like the older Stanford-Binet or Weschler (which also has a general knowledge component), and expect to reach anywhere near the ceiling of that test.
> >>
> >> For example, the Stanford-Binet test from 40 years ago would have been version 2 or 3, and was highly verbal in nature. Also, from what I understand (I am happy to be corrected if I have misunderstood), this would have had a standard deviation of 16 and a max score of either 160 or 168 (depending on the form). 168 would equate to 161 when the SD=15. If we now correct the score by incorporating the Flynn effect it shrinks to about IQ 151 by today's standards, but that would be the absolute maximum, but you would not have plausibly obtained that due to the language centered nature of the test.
> >>
> >> If you took a test with SD=24, a score of IQ 166 would correspond to about IQ 141 when SD=15. Correct with the Flynn effect and we have an estimate of IQ 131 with SD=15, by today's standards.
> >>
> >> The only candidates remaining, to my knowledge, are the culture fair tests, such as Cattell or Ravens Progressive Matrices. The Raven type tests that I have heard of seem to max out below IQ 150 (SD=15), although if anyone knows of a different version that would be interesting to hear about.
> >>
> >> The Cattell III A Culture Fair Test, has a ceiling of about 178, when the standard deviation is re-calibrated from 16 to 15, with a maximum of 50 questions that can be answered. An IQ score of above 160 on that test seems to require a near perfect raw score out of 50. The Triple Nine Society for instance seems to need a score of at least 42 or 43, out of 50, and that seems to be evidence for IQ 146 (SD=15) . As the Cattell tests seem to be largely used by various branches of Mensa, if you obtained what would have been a near perfect score on a Mensa supervised test then you should be on Mensa's records and would have no trouble proving the correctness of your claims.
> >>
> >> So which test are you claiming to have taken? The 'IQ Self Test' books you find in public libraries don't count I am afraid, even if you get a family member to time you :-) .
> >> "Just as I thought - you're a moron! LMAO."
> >> Not according to Mensa (paying attention :-) ), but in any case, that's "Mr Moron IQ 130+" to the likes of you JG 115, :-) .
> >>
> >> Have a nice day.
> >> QB
> >> Remain Calm and Keep Loving Real Analysis
> >> [Recommended Book of the Day: Numbers and Geometry, by John Stillwell]

> >
> > On the idiot scale even Feldmann's an idiot.
> > (... and he's not an idiot.)
> >
> > I got a 1520/1600 on the old SAT and 170/180 on the old LSAT.
> > And I got a 1500/1600 on the computerized GRE.

> jesus dude, that is high, nosebleed high, how big is your head ? and on the old sat too,
>
> how much did they dumb down the new sat ?
> I forgot what score I made on the GRE, it was very good though

> >
> > (And, ..., I was the first one done.)
> >
> > So I think we can always do better than the troll-bot.
> >
> > This was about 145 on Stanford-Binet. (Or a qualifier.)
> >
> > I only share this with you as if it's the basis of your respect,
> > it's respectable.
> >
> > I partly attribute my large head to hanging upside-down at
> > recess in elementary school, while the weather permitted.

> thats it! Ill make them do that even when it rains or snows...

> >
> > (Where otherwise I usually played regularly with my mates.)
> >
> > My usual habit is to acquire books each few days and read them,
> > for example "Liao's Levy Processes in Lie Groups", what I have here.

> my hobbie is picking up non fiction books at garage sales in this university neighborhood, reading instead of tv

> >
> >
> > Thanks Ross, I'd appreciate that, thanks, Ross
> >
> >

I'm not sure why I made a habit of hanging upside-down each recess,
for some months or so or it was a passing habit, I'd perhaps heard
there was health benefits of it, and I suppose that I enjoyed the feeling,
and it was possible being light enough to simply hang from the knees
over the bar without damage, and that there was a convenient bar
just about the right height to hang a few inches from the ground.

It was probably strange and mostly didn't catch on with the other
students, though a few tried it, and found it too difficult.

Besides reading then the other elementary habit was the bicycle,
I'd regularly ride around for hours, riding no hands, no hands around
the block, ..., riding the dirt hills, riding around town. I later learned
to operate a motorcycle which is also fun.

Reading some articles these days there is that daily inversion is a
suggested exercise and even helps autistic kids from whatever problems
all the junk waste drugs and hormones in the water and food containers
have caused them, or as how high-power radio frequency is bad for a
usual growing environment.

(The environment and water and food quality is in most ways much
better these days though in some ways worse. I.e., lead bad,
xenohormones bad, brain receptor targetters bad.)

I kept to hanging upside-down and my peers let me at it for I was top
of the class and sometimes it's balancing to get out.
(Or probably hundreds of times, maybe less.) I was lucky they generally
respected and enjoyed me.

I had a math enrichment curriculum in the early grades, basically just
some tutoring but really just some extra worksheets, not sure but what
Yates' computer club or math club or what it was was pretty cool.

Usually completing all the year's workbooks the first few weeks of class,
my teachers usually let me carry on with the next few grades' and I was
usually enough free to day-dream sitting through class.

In appropriate clothing and weather, hanging upside-down refreshes the head.

If the pressure of this exertion were to cause overpressure and what
breaks things, then, it might be a good idea to find that out before just
trucking along and having it fail.

Or, dreaming in zen while upside-down isn't for everybody.


Anyways, cursory search suggests that hanging upside-down is good
for health, and, in the developmental years, may increase brain size and
height, while it's not to be overdone.


Catatonia: not for anybody.

[Chris M. Thomasson]

Hummm... This is odd. Should he call the FBI?

[Chris M. Thomasson]

On 9/6/2021 4:42 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 9/6/2021 4:20 PM, Serg io wrote:
>> On 9/6/2021 3:53 PM, Quantum Bubbles wrote:
>>> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 8:37:16 PM UTC+1, Ross A. Finlayson
[...]
>> If you ever got the Mensa Mag, and read the input from members, you
>> can see what I mean.
>>
>
> Engineering disease?

https://www.ingenia.org.uk/Ingenia/Issue-25/Autism-and-Engineers-is-there-a-connection

[Ross A. Finlayson]

Not sure what can be done about a troll-bot whose only purpose
appears to be to corrupt the medium, and I'm not sure how easy
it would be that if _nobody_ ever replied to the troll-bot, _and_,
everyone any time they felt compelled to kick the troll, that instead
they posted some new post for example on some giant "anything but
the troll" thread, that basically the troll-bot would be distant.


Of course if we could find the troll-person then there's something to be
said for so few words.

It mostly reminds me of one of those urban street bums whose cursing
defines them as more than less though that even street bums will
rein in their spitting most of the time when somebody with an air of
self-reliance about them crosses their walk.

You know, the poor guy with Tourette's who's always uttering "f&^%"
but when crossing paths adopts "change", that's a poor suffering
Tourette's sufferer who's pitiable, this troll-bot is pretty much only despicable.

Yes, I think we might endeavor for an "anything but the troll" approach.

[NaCl]

Michael Moroney wrote:

>> MORONey, your IQ <<surely>> can't be higher than 91? If that high....
>> LMFAO.....
>
> Sorry to tell you that it is at least as high as their minimum (which is
> the top 2%). Again, I don't remember the test scores, other than none
> of them was a single number called IQ. This was over 25 years ago.

ohh boy, another pearl from the uneducated morony. Was a member of Mensa,
but can't remember!!

[Python]

Crank John Gabriel, aka Eram semper recta wrote:
...

> So "42=4x10 + 2" is a logical statement for you, but "[f(x+h)-f(x)]/h = f'(x) + Q(x,h)" is not?! LMAO.

It is also while neither 42, 4x10+2, [f(x+h)-f(x)]/h nor f'(x) + Q(x,h)
are.

A logical statement ( 2 + 2 = 5, 2 + 2 >= 5, etc ) can contain
sub-expressions (2 + 2, 5) that are not logical statements.

This is below high school level, John. Come on!

Not only your eyes are degrading, poor John, but your brain too, faster
and faster every single day.

[markus...@gmail.com]

Both "42=4x10 + 2" and "[f(x+h)-f(x)]/h = f'(x) + Q(x,h)" are logical statements, but "42" is not. Neither is "[f(x+h)-f(x)]/h <--> f'(x) + Q(x,h)".

[markus...@gmail.com]

Yeah yeah, we know you can make up stories Gabriel. How about learning mathematics? Can you do that without calling someone correcting you a "vile Jew"?

[zelos...@gmail.com]

Why couldn't you have succeeded in taking your own life? Everything would be better then!

[zelos...@gmail.com]

You said youw ould harm me so you spoke about me to me.

You're a nobody as well, learn to live with it.

[Eram semper recta]

If [f(x+h)-f(x)]/h <--> f'(x) + Q(x,h) is not logical then neither is 42=4x10+2.

You're an idiot. Period.

[Eram semper recta]

If I am a nobody, then why would you care? :)

By the way, you do know that what you've just written is a serious crime?

[zelos...@gmail.com]

You are a nobody :) Why I engage is to prevent you from misreprsenting mathematics and they get things wrong. Same as I do with flatearthers.

What is a crime?

Stating I am sad you failed taking your life? That is not a crime in any jurisdiction, I am free to wish death upon anyone as long as I do nothing to cause it.
That the world would be better? That is not a crime either. I am free to state my opinion :)

None of those are any crimes and is protected under free speech.

[Eram semper recta]

On Wednesday, 8 September 2021 at 12:28:53 UTC+3, Swede Baboon boy and troll ZELOS MALUM an UPPSALA graduate aka zelos...@gmail.com wrote:


> What is a crime?
>
> Stating I am sad you failed taking your life? That is not a crime in any jurisdiction, I am free to wish death upon anyone as long as I do nothing to cause it.

It is a criminal offense in many countries around the world. But how could an ass like you know this...

Homework: Search for "is it a felony to encourage one to commit suicide"

[zelos...@gmail.com]

I didn't tell you to kill yourself, I said it is sad you failed.

I didn't encourage you to kill yourself, I don't encourage you to do it either, but if you do I will not shed any tears and do a dance :)

You need to learn what things mean and what it requires.

[markus...@gmail.com]

What?
The former is not an equality, but the latter is. The former is ILL-FORMED (yeah, you love that word), the latter is not.

[Dan Christensen]

STUDENTS BEWARE: Don't be a victim of JG's fake math

It turns out to be useless gibberish. With this supposed "definition" of the derivative of a function, you cannot even determine the derivative of f(x)=|x| or even f(x)=x. Back to the drawing board, Troll Boy!

JG here claims to have a discovered a shortcut to mastering calculus without using limits. Unfortunately for him, this means he has no workable a definition of the derivative of a function. It blows up for functions as simple f(x)=|x|. Or even f(x)=0. As a result, he has had to ban 0, negative numbers and instantaneous rates of change rendering his goofy little system quite useless. What a moron!

Forget calculus. JG has also banned all axioms because he cannot even derive the most elementary results of basic arithmetic, e.g. 2+2=4. Such results require the use of axioms, so he must figure he's now off the hook. Again, what a moron!

Even at his advanced age (60+?), John Gabriel is STILL struggling with basic, elementary-school arithmetic. As he has repeatedly posted here:

"There are no points on a line."
--April 12, 2021

"Pi is NOT a number of ANY kind!"
--July 10, 2020

"1/2 not equal to 2/4"
--October 22, 2017

“1/3 does NOT mean 1 divided by 3 and never has meant that”
-- February 8, 2015

"3 =< 4 is nonsense.”
--October 28, 2017

"Zero is not a number."
-- Dec. 2, 2019

"0 is not required at all in mathematics, just like negative numbers."
-- Jan. 4, 2017

“There is no such thing as an empty set.”
--Oct. 4, 2019

“3 <=> 2 + 1 or 3 <=> 8 - 5, etc, are all propositions” (actually all are meaningless gibberish)
--Oct. 22, 2019

No math genius our JG, though he actually lists his job title as “mathematician” at Linkedin.com. Apparently, they do not verify your credentials.

Though really quite disturbing, interested readers should see: “About the spamming troll John Gabriel in his own words...” (lasted updated March 10, 2020) at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/sci.math/PcpAzX5pDeY/1PDiSlK_BwAJ

Dan

Download my DC Proof 2.0 freeware at http://www.dcproof.com
Visit my Math Blog a http://www.dcproof.wordpress.com

[Eram semper recta]

Only an absolute moron like you would say f[f(x+h)-f(x)]/h <--> f'(x) + Q(x,h) is not logical and then say that 42=4x10+2 is logical because according to your blonde criterion, BOTH those are equalities. As for "42", it too is SHORT for an equality - it means 4x10+2, in other words
4x10+2 = 42.

See? This is what happens when fucking morons like you listen to vile psychopath shit likeJean Pierre Messager and the know-nothing Malum Zelos.

[markus...@gmail.com]

Where is the equality sign in "f[f(x+h)-f(x)]/h <--> f'(x) + Q(x,h)"?

[Chris M. Thomasson]

On 9/7/2021 10:15 PM, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> tisdag 7 september 2021 kl. 13:26:58 UTC+2 skrev Eram semper recta:
>> On Tuesday, 7 September 2021 at 09:35:31 UTC+3, Eram semper recta wrote:
>>> On Monday, 6 September 2021 at 23:31:03 UTC+3, ross.pro...@gmx.com wrote:
>>>> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 8:14:54 PM UTC+1, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>> On 9/6/2021 2:23 PM, Quantum Bubbles wrote:

[...]

> Why couldn't you have succeeded in taking your own life? Everything would be better then!
>

That's pretty harsh?

[Chris M. Thomasson]

There are an infinite number of ways to get 42.

2 x 3 x 7 = 42

[dean rector]

Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

> There are an infinite number of ways to get 42.
>
> 2 x 3 x 7 = 42

lol

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alternative language can help mitigate perceived partisanship in COVID-19
messaging.

Instead of … Say …

Lockdown Stay-at-home order
COVID mandates, directives, controls, orders COVID protocols
National duty Personal responsibility
Coronavirus/COVID-19 Pandemic
Hospitalization rates Deaths
Defeat, crush Eliminate, eradicate
Operation warp speed Standard process
Government Public health agencies
Science-, medicine-, data-based Fact-based
The consequences of not taking the vaccine The benefits of taking it
Getting the vaccine is the right thing to do Getting the vaccine will
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Predictability/certainty A return to normal
Discover/create/invent Research
The dollars spent; number of participants A transparent, rigorous
process
Security Safety
Misled/confused about the vaccine Skeptical/concerned about
the vaccine
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The world’s leading experts America’s leading experts

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/2021-02/covid-19-vaccine-guide-
english.pdf

[Eram semper recta]

There is no need for one.

IF p => q and q => p THEN p = q

Gosh boy, this is one of the very first things you learn in logic. Are you also a graduate of Oops-Allah (Uppsala) university?

[markus...@gmail.com]

That's wrong.

((p implies q) & (q implies p) implies (p \iff q), and not p=q.

"I eat when I'm hungry" and "I'm hungry when I eat" implies "I'm hungry when and only when I eat". It doesn't imply "I eat when I'm hungry"="I'm hungry when I eat", which is a nonsensical thing to say.

[Serg io]

wow, interesting,
I know a 9 year old kid that seems to have Aspergers, but he is the only one I could discuss Physics with in depth compaired to most adults.

[Serg io]

2^1 + 2^3 + 2^5 = 42

(2*n)!/(n!(n+1)!) =42 , where n = 5

and the well known;

42 = (–80,538,738,812,075,974)^3 + (80,435,758,145,817,515)^3 + (12,602,123,297,335,631)^3

[michael Rodriguez]

> I'm not sure why I made a habit of hanging upside-down each recess,

In the monkey bars ends up hurting behind knees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlXM0PSAnN4

although using the table feels different. Some use boots to hang...

[michael Rodriguez]

Duels in the wild, sci.math the Wild West of Maths

[Ross A. Finlayson]

Not necessarily..., does hanging on monkey bars hurt knees.
(Young light people now old fat people.)

I.e., it didn't hurt and I credit it at least in some sense as
why the only test subject I know's hanging-upside-down
and later correlation with reading comprehension was positive.

No, these days I am old and have a little folding inversion table.

It's really quite remarkable the many increases in quality of life
over so few years. It's really quite amazing what in olden times
would have been gross excess.

Among the reasons why there is trolls here is because it's free,
and the reasons why trolls are kicked here is because they're wrong,
and among reason why I, though having controversial opinions,
am not so much kicked anymore, is because I have a very strong
slate of reasons that add line and signal continuity's to usual
modern mathematics' field continuity, which, in a usual realm of
descriptive set theory and topology, makes for the best.

I.e., in some sense, the troll-bot, is just an affliction of this
public means, an abuse of it, while, as on top of it,
I am in a sense thusly some mathematical cure.

Or, what I left behind.

Really though, revisiting foundations and having time in front,
line continuity, then field continuity and we all know it often from
instruction and of course exercise, and, signal continuity, makes
for three more-and-better-than-one, definitions of continuity.

Now, of course, many people don't care about this, at all, where,
people often only care of the opinions of others or what keeps
them in or out of diapers, and usually of course material things
and Maslow's I suppose you might imagine, but, I think that people
who really care about mathematics totally appreciate the infinity and
infinitesimals about zero and all our other numbers, and particularly
the idea that after the revolution of modern mathematics and the
trans-finite on cardinals thus ordinals, or "Russell's not Frege's
grundgezetse-with-axiomatized-ordinary-omega", which stole away
most useful formalisms of infinitesimals, there is that the mental
outlay of the formalism having first infinitesimals of one, then the
complete ordered field, then an analytical region in the signal domain,
is basically a "better" mathematics.


If there's a disclaimer, I have a mathematics degree and a large library
and pretty regular exposure, to mathematics writ large as researched
and practiced today.

And at least two slates on sci.math and sci.logic.

[Eram semper recta]

No. It's correct.

>
> ((p implies q) & (q implies p) implies (p \iff q), and not p=q.

Nonsense. (p implies q) & (q implies p) implies p = q.

>
> "I eat when I'm hungry" and "I'm hungry when I eat" implies "I'm hungry when and only when I eat". It doesn't imply "I eat when I'm hungry"="I'm hungry when I eat", which is a nonsensical thing to say.

Of course it's nonsense and it has no analogy whatsoever with the above discussion.

[Ross A. Finlayson]

No, there's modality, under interpretation of p and q.

"I was hungry when I ate".

Eg, "Left and Right are together" and "Right and Left are together",
each implies the other but under modality left comes from the left
and right comes from the right.

What you get there is a decision and what you're missing is a dialectic.

Many people eat for digestion's sedation.

Also there's been left out any "p but not x when q" type things.

[zelos...@gmail.com]

Demonstrating you do not get boolean algebra either.

[Eram semper recta]

Demonstrating what a bunch of twats you and Klyver are.

TRUTH TABLES are not part of mathematics, because as I have repeatedly told you:

Mathematics is the science of measure and number.

[Quantum Bubbles]

On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 8:36:04 PM UTC+1, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 9/6/2021 11:23 AM, Quantum Bubbles wrote:
> > On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 3:29:06 PM UTC+1, Eram semper recta wrote:
> >
> > "Because I am and you're just a stupid, jealous troll who knows nothing about mathematics - pretty much the same as every idiot on this newsgroup."
> >
> > What would I be jealous of? I am over 20 years younger than you, I have multiple degrees in subjects I find interesting; nice employment with sufficient free time to pursue a variety of interests or amuse myself on here as I see fit; I just qualified for Mensa (and Intertel) despite recovering from surgery and sleep deprivation at the time I took the tests. Oh yes, and I understand calculus; perhaps my favorite branch of mathematics. So jealous of what exactly?
> [...]
>
> I remember the good ol' "how many triangles can you see" question in
> another test I took way back in the 4'th grade. Wondering if its in the
> Mensa test. Basically, asking how many triangles are in a Sierpinski
> triangle after n iterations.

Hi Chris,

Sorry, I didn't clock your question earlier. I wasn't asked the triangles question you are referring to, when I took the Cattell test battery.

The language test (Cattell III B) looks at: synonyms/antonyms, similarity/odd one out, analogical inference, structured textual comprehension, and finally logic & numeracy textual problems. There are a very small number of picture problems at the end of some sections but they weren't of the type you are asking about.

The visual/culture fair test (Cattell III A) looks at: sequence completion, similarity/odd one out, matrix problems, and finally topological condition problems.

Kind Regards

QB

[Serg io]

On 9/7/2021 3:50 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 9/7/2021 4:28 AM, Eram semper recta wrote:

>> On Tuesday, 7 September 2021 at 14:24:12 UTC+3, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> tisdag 7 september 2021 kl. 08:35:31 UTC+2 skrev Eram semper recta:
>>>> On Monday, 6 September 2021 at 23:31:03 UTC+3, ross.pro...@gmx.com wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, September 6, 2021 at 8:14:54 PM UTC+1, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/6/2021 2:23 PM, Quantum Bubbles wrote:
>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I just qualified for Mensa (and Intertel) despite recovering from surgery and sleep deprivation at the time I took the tests. Oh yes, and I
>>>>>>> understand calculus; perhaps my favorite branch of mathematics. So jealous of what exactly?

>>>>>> Which test did you take?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was a member of Mensa about 25 years ago, but I don't remember my
>>>>>> score or which test it was.
>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>
>>>>> There are two tests that are taken consecutively with British Mensa: Cattell III B and Cattell III A (Culture Fair). I have been informed that some
>>>>> other branches of Mensa in other countries, such as Argentina, use the same battery. Those are the tests that I took. I think Mensa US uses a
>>>>> different battery, but they might have used the Cattell ones in the past.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fair point about it being difficult to remember a specific test name from that far back, that is perhaps asking too much (if it never happened then
>>>>> it could be even more difficult :-) ). By his account Mr Gabriel would have been under 19 years old when he was tested, and apparently in South
>>>>> Africa. Was there even a SA branch of Mensa in the 1970s?
>>>> I was 23 and no, it was in the early 1980s.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any case, you would imagine someone who had been professionally assessed and rated a 'genius' in IQ terms as a teenager would have been offered
>>>>> rather rare tertiary educational opportunities ...
>>>> I had several bursaries and study grants offered to me. I dropped out of university after completing two years of a triple major in Mathematics,
>>>> Applied Mathematics and Computer science. I only got a degree decades later in order to teach as it was required for teaching mathematics.
>>>>
>>>> My lecturers were stupid ass wipes and often I gave the classes. See, I had taught myself the bullshit formulation of mainstream calculus by the
>>>> time I was 14 years old. You were probably still discovering your willy at that time? LMAO.
>>>>
>>>> What is your real name, you cowardly dog? I'd love to put you on benefits.
>>>>
>>>> You can get away with harassment on sci.math by disguising yourself as the true coward that you are, but not for long.
>>>>
>>>> Trust me, I shall find out who you are. Prof. Gilbert Strang did not believe me. Result: Port563 is no longer here. :)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> QB

>>> Why would he tell his name when you are clearly going to cause harm cause you are so immature?
>>
>> Because he is harassing me. I think reaching this conclusion might be too advanced for you! :)
>>
>> Generally, I cause a lot of harm to those who harm me and I never forget. I shall harm you in a heartbeat if the opportunity arises - you'd better
>> believe it, you vile, lying piece of shit MALUM!
>>
>

> Hummm... This is odd. Should he call the FBI?


the intense guilt JG suffers from is the result of
1. math inferiority complex
2. adding of his even worser Quack Function, Q(x,h)
3. selling of his known "fake math" to children
4. inflating his IQ by a factor of 86%
5. sci.math folks got JG kicked of 3 sites for fake math
6. "bad math syndrome" always makes mistakes in math
7. Agreed that 0.999... actually is equal to 1.0

[Loy Gue]

Serg io wrote:

> the intense guilt JG suffers from is the result of 1. math inferiority
> complex 2. adding of his even worser Quack Function, Q(x,h)
> 3. selling of his known "fake math" to children 4. inflating his IQ by
> a factor of 86%

Чип под кожу и цифрофизация: что ждёт владельца подкожного микрочипа?
Ответ разработчика

[markus...@gmail.com]

JOHN GABRIEL ANNOUNCES: LOGIC IS NOT A PART OF MATHEMATICS ANYMORE

Good play there, bud

[markus...@gmail.com]

No, it doesn't. It implies p \iff q.

[Serg io]

Джей Джи нужен новый мозг, он перестал думать, и разум - это все каша, он репа, лук или картофель

[Eram semper recta]

Old news: Logic was never part of mathematics.

[markus...@gmail.com]

Also: you don't understand logic. ((p implies q) & (q implies p)) implies (p \iff q), and not p=q

[Eram semper recta]

((p implies q) & (q implies p)) implies p = q, you utter moron!

This is true even in Logic which is not part of mathematics. LMAO.

[zelos...@gmail.com]

that is and forever will be only your personal opinion.

[Eram semper recta]

Logic is a branch of philosophy that unfortunately found its way into mainstream "mathematics". You see, in sound mathematics (geometry from which we get all our useful mathematics and science) we deal with hard, cold facts and rational thinking.

Logic arose from the idle chatter of Ancient Greek philosophers. It's not a science and therefore cannot be part of mathematics.

Pretty simple eh? :)

[Eram semper recta]

Mainstream math idiots get a lot more room for bullshit once logic is included.

In mathematics, we talk about rational thinking and reason, NOT logic.

Now it's true that people think of logic as being part of both mathematics and philosophy. This is a misconception.

Being logical and being rational are two separate things.

Time for your dictionary lesson, Malum:

logic: reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity.

---> Note that in mathematics, there are no laws or principles. No decrees by orangutan math priests. No authoritative orders. No belief in Odin.

rational: based on or in accordance with reason

reason: a cause, **explanation**, or justification for an action or event.

---> An explanation is a statement or account that makes something clear.

Observe the lack of circularity!

End of lesson.