CJT: cat picture
John R Ramsden
<cl...@pisquaredoversix.force9.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I was doodling a bit today and figured I'd see if I couldn't go ahead
> and draw a picture of a cat with my own methods.
>
> It only took a couple of hours for me to come up with something. So,
> rather than immediately put it on the webpage, I'll put it out here
> first as I usually do with drafts.
>
>--
>
> Clive Tooth
I haven't looked at the picture, but if the animal is male I assume
"cat" is short for Clive Aided TOMography :-)
Cheers
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David C. Ullrich
pictures that were obtained using such simple methods. Thanks
for sharing that with us, years from now when you're a rich and
famous cat person we can say we were there at the start.
Clive Tooth wrote:
> I was doodling a bit today and figured I'd see if I couldn't go ahead
> and draw a picture of a cat with my own methods.
>
> It only took a couple of hours for me to come up with something. So,
> rather than immediately put it on the webpage, I'll put it out here
> first as I usually do with drafts.
>
> --
>
> Clive Tooth
> http://www.pisquaredoversix.force9.co.uk/
> End of document
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [Image]
Clive Tooth
> Golly. I think this could be important - I'm not aware of any cat
> pictures that were obtained using such simple methods. Thanks
> for sharing that with us, years from now when you're a rich and
> famous cat person we can say we were there at the start.
Thank you.
I least one of you so-called cat lovers out there has bothered to take a
serious look at my work.
I am convinced that my picture covers the case legs=2. I am working on
the legs=3 case and I am sure I will have it done by 5 o'clock Monday
morning (by my clock). As far as I know, this picture is unique, which
is an accomplishment in and of itself given the age and history of this
360 year old cat.
Clive Tooth
> I hope we're not going to get a picture of a cat every two hours.
So, the newsgroup cop again raises his ugly head of attempted
censorship.
> This cat
> has only 2 legs. The case n=2 is contrary to the cat theorem, I think,
> but I could very well be wrong.
I know that n=2 *may* be contrary to the cat theorem, but this is work
in progress. Right? Lighten up. Like, do you know that Babe Ruth drew
more lousy cat pictures than anybody else?
> See if you can draw cats with 4 legs
> (easiest case to handle) then try to do 3 legs and finally try to do p
> legs where p is a prime >= 5. The cat also needs a couple of eyes and a
> bit more of a back. It may find a mouth useful and a nose and the tail
> looks a bit odd to me as well.
Your opinion is noted.
> I hope that you can fix these things. I was
> also disapointed with the lack of a copyright. Someone may start trying to
> draw a cat with what you've got so far and you wouldn't be able to claim
> you got there first- someone like me. : )
>
> This is a picture of a fat cat. It is the case n=4. The easiest case.
That picture explains several things I had been wondering about you,
Richard.
If you don't get it, don't ask, I won't explain.
richard...@pop.net.ntl.com
> I was doodling a bit today and figured I'd see if I couldn't go ahead
> and draw a picture of a cat with my own methods.
>
> It only took a couple of hours for me to come up with something. So,
> rather than immediately put it on the webpage, I'll put it out here
> first as I usually do with drafts.
You do realize one can't copyright a picture of a cat? The law is quite clear.
Didn't we go through this a while back? (I'm thinking of pinching the picture
and selling it as my own work.)
Cheers
John R Ramsden (j...@redmink.demon.co.uk)
John C. Polasek
partners, split 50/50, and, without wishing to give away the whole
idea till we have an agreement, do you know where we could get hold of
some elephant dung?
John C. Polasek
Richard Carr
:Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 12:01:21 +0100
:From: Clive Tooth <cl...@pisquaredoversix.force9.co.uk>
:Newsgroups: sci.math
:Subject: Re: CJT: cat picture
:
:Richard Carr wrote:
:
:> I hope we're not going to get a picture of a cat every two hours.
:
:So, the newsgroup cop again raises his ugly head of attempted
:censorship.
:
:
:> This cat
:> has only 2 legs. The case n=2 is contrary to the cat theorem, I think,
:> but I could very well be wrong.
:
:I know that n=2 *may* be contrary to the cat theorem, but this is work
:in progress. Right? Lighten up. Like, do you know that Babe Ruth drew
:more lousy cat pictures than anybody else?
:
Yet again, you are behind the times. Hank Aaron drew his 715th lousy cat
picture to beat Babe's record.
:
:> See if you can draw cats with 4 legs
:> (easiest case to handle) then try to do 3 legs and finally try to do p
:> legs where p is a prime >= 5. The cat also needs a couple of eyes and a
:> bit more of a back. It may find a mouth useful and a nose and the tail
:> looks a bit odd to me as well.
:
:Your opinion is noted.
:
:
:> I hope that you can fix these things. I was
:> also disapointed with the lack of a copyright. Someone may start trying to
Apologies for the misspelling of disappointed.
:> draw a cat with what you've got so far and you wouldn't be able to claim
:
:
George Baloglou
writes:
>Clive Tooth wrote:
>
>> I was doodling a bit today and figured I'd see if I couldn't go ahead
>> and draw a picture of a cat with my own methods.
>>
>> It only took a couple of hours for me to come up with something. So,
>> rather than immediately put it on the webpage, I'll put it out here
>> first as I usually do with drafts.
>
>You do realize one can't copyright a picture of a cat? The law is quite clear.
Boosted by this information you have so kindly provided, I ventured to put one
of Clive Tooth's cats on the web: http://www.oswego.edu/~baloglou/tooth.html
>Didn't we go through this a while back? (I'm thinking of pinching the picture
>and selling it as my own work.)
"He buys cats and sells dogs" [Greek proverb on poor business skills]
:-)
David C. Ullrich
> "David C. Ullrich" wrote:
>
> > Golly. I think this could be important - I'm not aware of any cat
> > pictures that were obtained using such simple methods. Thanks
> > for sharing that with us, years from now when you're a rich and
> > famous cat person we can say we were there at the start.
>
> Thank you.
>
> I least one of you so-called cat lovers out there has bothered to take a
> serious look at my work.
Oh, I'm not a cat lover by any means. But ingenious new and simple
methods of generating pictures of cats, that's fascinating.
> I am convinced that my picture covers the case legs=2. I am working on
> the legs=3 case and I am sure I will have it done by 5 o'clock Monday
> morning (by my clock). As far as I know, this picture is unique, which
> is an accomplishment in and of itself given the age and history of this
> 360 year old cat.
Wow.
Clive Tooth
>I haven't looked at the picture, but if the animal is male I assume
>"cat" is short for Clive Aided TOMography :-)
Quite so. :)
Some toms will produce a spray which has an unpleasant odour. Virtually
unlimited amounts of this odour can be eliminated by using Furcat's method
of infinite de-scent.
Clive Tooth
>Clive, do you want to know where the real money is? We could be
>partners, split 50/50, and, without wishing to give away the whole
>idea till we have an agreement, do you know where we could get hold of
>some elephant dung?
I doubt I could have gone through all of this just for fame, money or
attention. After all, there are other ways to get all of those things.
Clive Tooth
<37F74544...@pop.net.ntl.com>...
>You do realize one can't copyright a picture of a cat? The law is quite
clear.
>
>Didn't we go through this a while back? (I'm thinking of pinching the
picture
>and selling it as my own work.)
Sure I understand it. But maybe you understand about lawyers and an ability
to sue over just about anything. Now, I might wonder if there's some
brilliant legal mind out there who could figure out a way to cover the
actual methods of my particular drawing.
But then again, I have no need to try that.
I think assuming can be a very dangerous thing. But it is amazing how many
people are so certain of so much. But I know that's not true because it's
easy to *say* you're certain of something, which is why it's said, "talk is
cheap."
Steve Lord
>John C. Polasek wrote...
>
>>Clive, do you want to know where the real money is? We could be
>>partners, split 50/50, and, without wishing to give away the whole
>>idea till we have an agreement, do you know where we could get hold
of
>>some elephant dung?
>
>I doubt I could have gone through all of this just for fame, money or
>attention. After all, there are other ways to get all of those
things.
Well, attention can be obtained (at least for a little while) by
repeated postings of a "proof" of FLT, right? :)
Steve L
Jim Ferry
>
> I was doodling a bit today and figured I'd see if I couldn't go ahead
> and draw a picture of a cat with my own methods.
>
> It only took a couple of hours for me to come up with something. So,
> rather than immediately put it on the webpage, I'll put it out here
> first as I usually do with drafts.
I am appalled at the abuse that sci.math has heaped upon you!
Your cat has many of the elements of a real cat. Naturally
one can get bogged down in the details, so I've taken the
Libert-y of pointing out a few of the salient features:
| |
#
\
_
)
| |
So all you nay-sayers can put *that* in your pipes and smoke it!
| Jim Ferry | Center for Simulation |
+------------------------------------+ of Advanced Rawcats |
| http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/jferry/ +------------------------+
| jferry@[delete_this]uiuc.edu | University of Illinois |
Bill Taylor
|> Some toms will produce a spray which has an unpleasant odour. Virtually
|> unlimited amounts of this odour can be eliminated by using Furcat's method
|> of infinite de-scent.
GROAN !!!
=====
Still, I award it joke of the week, but only by a whisker...
Clive Tooth
<7tba6s$fab$1...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>...
>Clive Tooth wrote:
>>
>> I was doodling a bit today and figured I'd see if I couldn't go ahead
>> and draw a picture of a cat with my own methods.
>>
>> It only took a couple of hours for me to come up with something. So,
>> rather than immediately put it on the webpage, I'll put it out here
>> first as I usually do with drafts.
>
>I am appalled at the abuse that sci.math has heaped upon you!
>Your cat has many of the elements of a real cat. Naturally
>one can get bogged down in the details, so I've taken the
>Libert-y of pointing out a few of the salient features:
>
>| |
> #
> \
> _
> )
> | |
>
>
>So all you nay-sayers can put *that* in your pipes and smoke it!
Hmmm.
Several people have pointed out that there are things missing from my
picture. My picture was _not_ meant to be a fully detailed picture of a cat.
It would be inefficient for me to try to produce such a thing. I was hoping
that with all you experts reading this group that you would be able to fill
in these minor details for me. However, I wish to thank you all for your
help, by your postings to this group and in the several thousand emails
which I have received. I especially thank Richard Carr for his valuable
input and apologise to him for calling him a newsgroup cop with an ugly
head.
I am now looking for some suitably qualified person to judge whether my
original posting was a valid picture of a cat. Hopefully we can bring this
all to an end soon.
Paul Hunt
> I hope we're not going to get a picture of
> a cat every two hours.
Why not? ... If you don't like cats you can go
to the dogs forum.
> This cat has only 2 legs. The case n=2 is
> contrary to the cat theorem, I think, but I
> could very well be wrong.
All you guys ever do is criticize little minor
details, not one of you is capable of seeing
the Big Picture. All of you are nit-picker's
saying 3 is not equal to 5, and 5 is not equal
to 7, and 7 is not equal to any integer n. A
cat is a cat and if you can't see that there's
something wrong with you.
> See if you can draw cats with 4 legs (easiest
> case to handle) then try to do 3 legs and
> finally try to do p legs where p is a prime
> ....
Why should Clive do that? You've already
admitted that your interpretation of the Cat
Theorem "may" be wrong. Why bother?
> The cat also needs a couple of eyes and a
> bit more of a back.
The "back" is in the "tail" ... Dummy! You
must be blind.
> It may find a mouth useful and a nose and
> the tail looks a bit odd to me as well. I
> hope that you can fix these things.
Clive can't "fix" the cat. The nature of
discovery is that you build, reach too far,
tear down and build again. Eventually, if
you're lucky, you finish the project.
> I was also disapointed with the lack of a
> copyright. Someone may start trying to
> draw a cat with what you've got so far and
> you wouldn't be able to claim you got there
> first- someone like me. : )
Why do you suppose it was drawn first in a
public NG ... because of people like you?
With best regards, and high hopes for your
immediate and full recovery,
/ph
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