How to pronounce Godel
Jon Slaughter
Goo-dal but this sounds like a german jelly donut or something.
karl
> I always say Go-Del but I'm sure this is wrong then it popped into my head
> Goo-dal but this sounds like a german jelly donut or something.
>
>
First the name is Gödel (umlaut ö), can be also written as Goedel (if
you have no umlaut on your keyboard)
For the pronunciation hear :
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Godel
Sounds very american, but the pronunciation of ö is correct.
Ciao
Karl
G. A. Edgar
<Jon_Sl...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
> I always say Go-Del but I'm sure this is wrong then it popped into my head
> Goo-dal but this sounds like a german jelly donut or something.
>
>
hear it here http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Godel
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G. A. Edgar http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~edgar/
Don Stockbauer
wrote:
> In article <MZvkk.16939$mh5.7...@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com>, Jon Slaughter
>
> <Jon_Slaugh...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I always say Go-Del but I'm sure this is wrong then it popped into my head
> > Goo-dal but this sounds like a german jelly donut or something.
>
> hear it here http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Godel
>
> --
> G. A. Edgar http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~edgar/
It's pronounced "girdle", as in "Girdle that tree over there in order
to kill it, isomorphic to a mathematician trying to girdle the PM but
failing due to all the useful parts of the PM being the non-girdle
parts and the girdle parts being like a scratch on PM's bumper, maybe
a small flaw but totally inconsequential as far as doing useful,
constructive things with the PM lending to our comfortable survival,
such as basic mathematical operations civilization needs to function,
like addition and such."
Or maybe not.
jmor...@idirect.com
> I always say Go-Del but I'm sure this is wrong then it popped into my head
> Goo-dal but this sounds like a german jelly donut or something.
Along the same lines...
You know you're a mathematician if... You wonder how Euler pronunced
Euclid...
Helmut Richter
> You know you're a mathematician if... You wonder how Euler pronunced
> Euclid...
That one is easy: just as Oiler would have pronounced Oicleed.
--
Helmut Richter
Axel Vogt
Hmm ... he was Swiss, no?
Don Stockbauer
Helmut Richter
> Helmut Richter wrote:
> > That one is easy: just as Oiler would have pronounced Oicleed.
>
> Hmm ... he was Swiss, no?
Even worse, from Basel, so that the standard Swiss pronunciation need not
be correct either.
Standard Swiss would be öi- instead of oi-, where ö is pronounced as in
"Gödel". Recursion -> see recursion.
--
Helmut Richter
Don Stockbauer
"He who studies recursion gains fresh insight into it."
Frederick Williams
Nah... everybody knows that Euclid was Greek, or a Grecian as Bush would
have it.
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On the bald street breaks the blank day.
Dave Seaman
> Axel Vogt wrote:
>>
>> Helmut Richter wrote:
>> > On Fri, 1 Aug 2008, jmor...@idirect.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> You know you're a mathematician if... You wonder how Euler pronunced
>> >> Euclid...
>> >
>> > That one is easy: just as Oiler would have pronounced Oicleed.
>>
>> Hmm ... he was Swiss, no?
> Nah... everybody knows that Euclid was Greek, or a Grecian as Bush would
> have it.
How much does a Grecian earn?
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Axel Vogt
the first vowel here
Anyway ... at this time probably the original Greek name might
be used (and pronouncing it in ancient Greek resp. Latin)
A N Niel
<frederick...@tesco.net> wrote:
> Nah... everybody knows that Euclid was Greek,
... Euclid of Alexandria ...
You mean he wasn't a Black African?
What will the thought police say about your denial?
Don Stockbauer
> In article <4894637C.37526...@tesco.net>, Frederick Williams
>
> <frederick.willia...@tesco.net> wrote:
> > Nah... everybody knows that Euclid was Greek,
>
> ... Euclid of Alexandria ...
> You mean he wasn't a Black African?
> What will the thought police say about your denial?
What's the logic in that?
Ken Pledger
<12369136-5c95-4132...@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
"jmor...@idirect.com" <jmor...@idirect.com> wrote:
> ....
> You know you're a mathematician if... You wonder how Euler pronunced
> Euclid...
Euler had a good classical education, and wrote many of his works
in Latin. My guess is that his own pronunciation of Eukleides would be
something like the original Greek.
Ken Pledger.
Robert Israel
Perhaps, depending on which "original Greek" you mean. I'm not a Greek
scholar, but it seems the pronunciation of the language was evolving around
the time of Euclid (see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koine_Greek#Phonology>).
I don't know which version of Greek pronunciation Euler would have been taught
in school. Also, he certainly would have used a different pronunciation
when saying "Euklid" in German than when saying "Εὐκλείδης" in Greek.
--
Robert Israel isr...@math.MyUniversitysInitials.ca
Department of Mathematics http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel
University of British Columbia Vancouver, BC, Canada
David Bernier
> Ken Pledger<ken.p...@mcs.vuw.ac.nz> writes:
>
>> In article
>> <12369136-5c95-4132...@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>> "jmor...@idirect.com"<jmor...@idirect.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ....
>>> You know you're a mathematician if... You wonder how Euler pronunced
>>> Euclid...
>>
>> Euler had a good classical education, and wrote many of his works
>> in Latin. My guess is that his own pronunciation of Eukleides would be
>> something like the original Greek.
>
> Perhaps, depending on which "original Greek" you mean. I'm not a Greek
> scholar, but it seems the pronunciation of the language was evolving around
> the time of Euclid (see<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koine_Greek#Phonology>).
> I don't know which version of Greek pronunciation Euler would have been taught
> in school. Also, he certainly would have used a different pronunciation
> when saying "Euklid" in German than when saying "Εὐκλείδης" in Greek.
my newsreader doesn't render any Greek characters when displaying the
line with
"Euklid" in it.
However, searching with Google on the string in quotes transforms it to:
"Εὐκλείδης" and the first hit is for the Web page:
<
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%95%E1%BD%90%CE%BA%CE%BB%CE%B5%CE%AF%CE%B4%CE%B7%CF%82
>
David Bernier
Axel Vogt
> Ken Pledger <ken.p...@mcs.vuw.ac.nz> writes:
>
>> In article
>> <12369136-5c95-4132...@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>> "jmor...@idirect.com" <jmor...@idirect.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ....
>>> You know you're a mathematician if... You wonder how Euler pronunced
>>> Euclid...
>>
>> Euler had a good classical education, and wrote many of his works
>> in Latin. My guess is that his own pronunciation of Eukleides would be
>> something like the original Greek.
>
> Perhaps, depending on which "original Greek" you mean. I'm not a Greek
> scholar, but it seems the pronunciation of the language was evolving around
> the time of Euclid (see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koine_Greek#Phonology>).
> I don't know which version of Greek pronunciation Euler would have been taught
> in school. Also, he certainly would have used a different pronunciation
> when saying "Euklid" in German than when saying "Εὐκλείδης" in Greek.
Εὐκλείδης = Eucleides in German would be pronounced using a 'short'
for the last 'e', as it stands for 'eta' (different from 'epsilon').
Did not have Greek at school (fortunately), but learning & teaching
should not have changed much through the last centuries (but is not
what is spoken in Greek today).
Phil Carmody
> Robert Israel wrote:
>> when saying "Euklid" in German than when saying "Εὐκλείδης" in Greek.
>
> my newsreader doesn't render any Greek characters when displaying the
> line with
> "Euklid" in it.
Don't worry - there were no Greek characters in it, there were ASCII
renderings of HTML entities instead. Any newsreader that would have
rendered them as Greek or whatever would have been displaying gross
disregard for RFCs.
Phil
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David Bernier
> David Bernier<davi...@videotron.ca> writes:
>> Robert Israel wrote:
>>> when saying "Euklid" in German than when saying "Εὐκλείδης" in Greek.
>> my newsreader doesn't render any Greek characters when displaying the
>> line with
>> "Euklid" in it.
>
> Don't worry - there were no Greek characters in it, there were ASCII
> renderings of HTML entities instead. Any newsreader that would have
> rendered them as Greek or whatever would have been displaying gross
> disregard for RFCs.
>
> Phil
Yes, I see. I wasn't sure what conformant newsreaders should do.
As an exercise with charset=UTF-16, I composed a web page using a program
that shows what I see as characters, excluding the boxes with
hexadecimal codes
in them.
My demo. page is here:
http://www.geocities.com/ezcos/chardemo.html
David Bernier
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Richard Tobin
Dave Seaman <dse...@no.such.host> wrote:
>How much does a Grecian earn?
My wife's gone to Jamaica.
-- Richard
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Angus Rodgers
(Richard Tobin) wrote:
>In article <g71prv$6s6$2...@mailhub227.itcs.purdue.edu>,
>Dave Seaman <dse...@no.such.host> wrote:
>>How much does a Grecian earn?
>
>My wife's gone to Jamaica.
Terrible!
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I.N. Galidakis
[snip]
> How much does a Grecian earn?
He who owns a Grecian urn can earn money.
He who owns a Grecian can earn urns.
He who owns a Grecian can earn money.
He who does not own a Grecian urn can still earn money.
He who does not own a Grecian can still earn urns.
He who does not own a Grecian can still earn money.
--
I.N. Galidakis
Don Stockbauer
(Laugh-In, circa 1967):
"About a $1.89 an hour."