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Victor Porton

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May 27, 2008, 9:56:21 AM5/27/08
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I will pay $100 to the person which will endorse me for arXiv
preprint.

I have written some neat math articles and put them at

http://www.mathematics21.org/algebraic-general-topology.html

and want to put them also to arXiv at math.GN category. Sadly nobody
endorses me. I have already contacted 11 endorses, but without
reply. I have the last choice to offer money.

There is a complexity behind this offer however. I do not know whether
arXiv's server will inform me who endorses me, and so may not know to
whom pay the money if several persons will claim that endorsed me.

For a solution I will consider two cases:
1. arXiv will inform me the name of the endorser - in this case I will
pay $100 to that person.
2. arXiv will not inform me about the name of the endorser - for
possibility of this case I will apply the algorithm below.

** Algorithm **

1. I offer to send me letters saying "I want to consider to endorse
you."

2. If arXiv informs me about the endorser, pay to that person.

3. Otherwise select the first letter "I want to consider to endorse
you." and reply to that person, "Yes, please endorse me."
The contacted person has the opportunity to review my articles and
then make the decision whether to endorse them (based, dependently on
your egoism, on scientific value of the articles or only on the desire
to gain $100). Afterwards the person in question is expected to
endorse
me and to send me the letter "OK, I have endorsed you." In reply to
that last letter I will send $100.

4. If this person does not reply as expected, repeat this with the
second, third, etc. person until success.

** Below is the endorsement letter **

(Victor Porton should forward this e-mail to someone who's registered
as
an endorser for the math.GN (General Topology) subject class of
arXiv.)

Victor Porton requests your endorsement to submit an article to the
math.GN section of arXiv. To tell us that you would (or would not)
like
to endorse this person, please visit the following URL:

http://arxiv.org/auth/endorse.php?x=8KIXKG

If that URL does not work for you, please visit

http://arxiv.org/auth/endorse.php

and enter the following six-digit alphanumeric string:

Endorsement Code: 8KIXKG

Dave L. Renfro

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May 27, 2008, 10:29:12 AM5/27/08
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Victor Porton wrote (in part):

> I will pay $100 to the person which will endorse me
> for arXiv preprint.

I was curious about this, because one day I may try
to deposit some of my manuscripts at arXiv, and I
came across this statement:

"We may give some people automatic endorsements based
on topic, previous submissions, and academic affiliation."

Have you tried for an automatic endorsement? They didn't
mention "publication record" or some other ways that
I think should qualify. Thus, even if you don't fit one
of the three listed categories ("topic" seems quite
curious to me, by the way -- why should the subject
matter of a manuscript be so important in a decision
such as this?), you might still might get an automatic
endorsement based on other issues.

Dave L. Renfro

amy666

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May 27, 2008, 4:17:15 PM5/27/08
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Dave L Renfro wrote :

or he might ask JSH.
he might do it for free if he compliments him.
or put it on his own site ;)

OwlHoot

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May 28, 2008, 9:48:09 AM5/28/08
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I thought one could auto-endorse articles in the arXiV
groups General Maths and General Physics.

A large proportion of papers in those groups look
distinctly dodgy, though not all. For example David
Hestenes (a leading expert in geometric algebra) has
a recent one in gen-ph on electrons

[ http://arxiv.org/abs/0802.3227 ]

I may have asked this before, but does anyone know of
an on-line service a-la arxiv where one could "publish"
a paper or article for the main purpose of indisputably
date-stamping its submission along with a reliable
checksum to verify its contents at that date?

Not having being vetted, or accepted/acceptable elsewhere
presumably, most contributions would naturally be junk.
So there would be few regular readers; but the articles
would have to be freely available online for the service
to be of any use (see below).

I think there would be a market for an online "vanity
publishing" service (for want of a better phrase) like
this although, as I said, vanity wouldn't be the only
criterion - Avoiding imagined priority disputes would
be a big selling point if not the main one.

P.S. Usenet doesn't count, as it is an ASCII-only
medium and not explicitly a repository and it may
even be possible to spoof posting dates (which if
so makes it worthless as a reliable indicator of
priority).

Also, in practice, posting or mailing checksums
alone, like (conjecturally) the Fermi Shoemaker
cryptogram

[ http://cosmicvariance.com/2008/05/20/the-fermilab-shoemaker-cryptogram/
]

doesn't cut it in my view, because it doesn't allow
for references to, or scrutiny or discussion of,
the content.


Cheers

John R Ramsden

gernic

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May 28, 2008, 12:54:33 PM5/28/08
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"amy666" <tomm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2839547.12119194665...@nitrogen.mathforum.org...

Just say you admire JSH's Surragoat Factoring, (don't ask him if it works)


Ray Vickson

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May 28, 2008, 2:06:37 PM5/28/08
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Are you sure it is not a different David Hestenes? Does the David
Hestenes you refer to work in the Physics Department at Arizona State
U?

R.G. Vickson

>
> [http://arxiv.org/abs/0802.3227]

OwlHoot

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May 28, 2008, 4:07:32 PM5/28/08
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> > John R Ramsden- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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Pretty sure. Quoting from page 1 of the paper:

"In developing the model of a point particle with zitter,
geometric algebra has played an essential role, and it
greatly facilitates solving the coupled system of equations
in the model as well as comparison with Dirac theory".

Also Carl Brannen on his blog did an interesting write up
on the paper, at

http://carlbrannen.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/david-hestenes-electron-model/

Not sure where Hestenes is based though.


Cheers

John Ramsden

Ray Vickson

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May 28, 2008, 7:42:58 PM5/28/08
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> http://carlbrannen.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/david-hestenes-electron-m...

>
> Not sure where Hestenes is based though.
>
> Cheers
>
> John Ramsden

Sorry, I was mistakenly thinking of the late Magnus Hestenes of
optimization fame who, some claim, discovered the maximum principle of
optimal control before Pontryagin did.

R.G. Vickson

JohnF

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May 29, 2008, 7:30:10 PM5/29/08
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OwlHoot <raven...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> <<snip>>

> I may have asked this before, but does anyone know of
> an on-line service a-la arxiv where one could "publish"
> a paper or article for the main purpose of indisputably
> date-stamping its submission along with a reliable
> checksum to verify its contents at that date?

Submit a copy to the US Copyright Office...
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html
Very briefly...
download
http://www.copyright.gov/forms/formtxi.pdf
and follow the included instructions.
For computer programs, also see
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ61.html

> Not having being vetted, or accepted/acceptable elsewhere
> presumably, most contributions would naturally be junk.
> So there would be few regular readers; but the articles
> would have to be freely available online for the service
> to be of any use (see below).
>
> I think there would be a market for an online "vanity
> publishing" service (for want of a better phrase) like
> this although, as I said, vanity wouldn't be the only
> criterion - Avoiding imagined priority disputes would
> be a big selling point if not the main one.

> John R Ramsden

For example,
See http://lulu.com for harcopy vanity press.
See http://philica.com/ for online.
I'd imagine there are zillions of similar alternatives.
--
John Forkosh ( mailto: j...@f.com where j=john and f=forkosh )

OwlHoot

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May 30, 2008, 4:16:24 PM5/30/08
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On May 30, 12:30 am, JohnF <j...@please.see.sig.for.email.com> wrote:

>
> OwlHoot <ravensd...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think there would be a market for an online "vanity
> > publishing" service (for want of a better phrase) like
> > this although, as I said, vanity wouldn't be the only
> > criterion - Avoiding imagined priority disputes would
> > be a big selling point if not the main one.
> > John R Ramsden
>
> For example,
>      See  http://lulu.com  for harcopy vanity press.
>      See  http://philica.com/  for online.
> I'd imagine there are zillions of similar alternatives.
> --
> John Forkosh  ( mailto:  j...@f.com  where j=john and f=forkosh )

That philica site looks good, and some of the titles are
classic like "Wave-Particle Duality in the 18th Century"!
(Mind you that could just about make sense as a historical
survey of corpuscular theory v. Thomas Young's wave theory.)

I'd be happier if there was more emphasis on time-spamping
and hash-coding articles though. Perhaps they're missing
a trick there, and could charge for that.


Cheers

John Ramsden

G. A. Edgar

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May 30, 2008, 5:18:21 PM5/30/08
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>      See  http://philica.com/  for online.


Most recent articles in mathematics ... 2006 ...

--
G. A. Edgar http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~edgar/

Mahmood Ahmadi

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Feb 26, 2022, 10:35:48 AM2/26/22
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Dear All
Would you please endorse me with the following link?
https://arxiv.org/auth/endorse?x=J4Y4PG
Best regards,
Mahmood
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