Fermat Pronunciation

Magnusfarce

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May 13, 2001, 10:18:37 PM5/13/01

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Hi Folks -

A little embarrassed to ask, but how is Fermat's name pronounced?

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Magnusfarce

Sephiroth416214

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May 13, 2001, 11:07:24 PM5/13/01

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>Hi Folks -
>
>A little embarrassed to ask, but how is Fermat's name pronounced?

"fur-MAH"

Sephiroth

Kristin Hein

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May 13, 2001, 11:15:42 PM5/13/01

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I think Feer-matt

Virgil

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May 13, 2001, 11:51:26 PM5/13/01

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In article <1gHL6.1174$Az.9...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
"Magnusfarce" <magnu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Fair Ma, accent on the Ma.

Chris Boyd

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May 14, 2001, 3:15:13 AM5/14/01

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Magnusfarce <magnu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
: Hi Folks -

:
: A little embarrassed to ask, but how is Fermat's name pronounced?

Fermat was pronounced "dead" in 1665.

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... but his theorem lived on

Nico Benschop

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May 14, 2001, 4:09:26 AM5/14/01

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You mean his conjecture (until A.Wiles showed it is a theorem, 1995)

-- NB -- http://arXiv.org/abs/math.GM/0103014 Triplet structure mod p^k
http://arXiv.org/abs/math.GM/0103051 On Fermat's marginal note

PS: and Fair Ma it is (at least: fairly close - but with short 'air'
so Fer Ma should be OK;-)

ANW, Jr.

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May 14, 2001, 5:04:23 AM5/14/01

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Pierre de Fermat was French, of course, and "t"s are silent in French
(as far as I know). Pretty much like "fair-mah" (with accent on "mah").

ANW, Jr.

denis-feldmann

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May 14, 2001, 5:17:41 AM5/14/01

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ANW, Jr. <A...@netscape.net> a écrit dans le message :
3AFF9F3F...@netscape.net...

> Pierre de Fermat was French, of course, and "t"s are silent in French
> (as far as I know).

You mean final "t"s :-) Not always, actually (words like 'mat' and 'pat'
(from chess: respectively (chess)mate and stalemate)) have a pronounced t).
But those are really exceptions, and Fermat is not one

Richard Tobin

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May 14, 2001, 6:47:08 AM5/14/01

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In article <1gHL6.1174$Az.9...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
Magnusfarce <magnu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>A little embarrassed to ask, but how is Fermat's name pronounced?

In English, usually "fur mat".

In French, something different...

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barbara9

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May 14, 2001, 8:02:39 AM5/14/01

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> Pretty much like "fair-mah" (with accent on "mah").

yeah, except without the accent. s'French, ya know.

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Kesh

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May 14, 2001, 1:12:37 PM5/14/01

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"Magnusfarce" <magnu...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Folks -
>
> A little embarrassed to ask, but how is Fermat's name pronounced?
>

I've always wondered how is Galois pronounced?

denis-feldmann

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May 14, 2001, 1:54:54 PM5/14/01

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Kesh <ke...@rmharrison.fsnet.co.uk> a écrit dans le message :
9dp3m6$3ii$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...

Gal-wa should give you a good approximation (no stress on any syllable: this
is French)

Rolf Kleinknecht

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May 14, 2001, 2:45:01 AM5/14/01

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This is the right one.

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ANW, Jr.

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May 14, 2001, 4:03:44 PM5/14/01

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Oui, oui, :)

ANW, Jr.

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May 14, 2001, 4:06:53 PM5/14/01

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LOL, :)

Bob Cain

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May 14, 2001, 4:44:12 PM5/14/01

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Anyone?

Bob
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Sean Montgomery

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May 14, 2001, 6:24:28 PM5/14/01

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Easy, cheesy way:

GRR-dull (girdle)

For the correct, Austrian pronunciation I'll let someone else be definitive.
But a good guess would be: accent on the first syllable; try to hold your
mouth as to say "ooooh" but vocalize a long "e", like in keep, then add a
little "rrr" to it. That's the first syllable :-) Then the second syllable
would be like "dil" where the "i" is a schwa (shwa?), and the d has a bit of
"t" in it...

Ok, how about Minkowski?

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G. A. Edgar

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May 15, 2001, 9:01:26 AM5/15/01

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> Ok, how about Minkowski?

min cough ski

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Rupert Levene

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May 15, 2001, 7:02:15 PM5/15/01

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?

Rupert

Zdislav V. Kovarik

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May 15, 2001, 7:49:37 PM5/15/01

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In article <3B01B577...@cam.ac.uk>,
Rupert Levene <rh...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>?

Mart - sink - ye - vitch (accent on "ye")

Without reversing, it's the one where 4 / ((3 + 5) * (7 - 1))

looks like

/ 4 * + 3 5 - 7 1

and HP-calculator users see it as (E for enter);

4 E 3 E 5 + 7 E 1 - * /

(correct me if I'm wrong).

Cheers, ZVK(Slavek)

Wade Ramey

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May 15, 2001, 8:28:01 PM5/15/01

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In article <9dsfah$n...@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca>,

kov...@mcmail.cis.McMaster.CA (Zdislav V. Kovarik) wrote:

> Mart - sink - ye - vitch (accent on "ye")

The usual American mangling of this is

Mar sin KAY vitch.

Wade

David W. Cantrell

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May 15, 2001, 10:34:23 PM5/15/01

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I sure that Slavek knows the pronunciation, but
wonder if he's conveyed it well to us English speakers.
I've thought the third syllable was je in IPA. But if
you tell an English speaker that it's pronounced ye,
they're likely to say it like that English word, which
would be ji in IPA.

David Cantrell

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Zdislav V. Kovarik

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May 15, 2001, 10:52:48 PM5/15/01

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In article <20010515223423.193$r...@newsreader.com>,
David W. Cantrell <DWCan...@sigmaxi.org> wrote:

:Wade Ramey <wrame...@home.remove13.com> wrote:
:> In article <9dsfah$n...@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca>,
:> kov...@mcmail.cis.McMaster.CA (Zdislav V. Kovarik) wrote:
:>
:> > Mart - sink - ye - vitch (accent on "ye")
:>
:> The usual American mangling of this is
:>
:> Mar sin KAY vitch.
:
:I sure that Slavek knows the pronunciation, but
:wonder if he's conveyed it well to us English speakers.
:I've thought the third syllable was je in IPA. But if
:you tell an English speaker that it's pronounced ye,
:they're likely to say it like that English word, which
:would be ji in IPA.
:
: David Cantrell

Agreed, and one more modification, with apologies to
Polish speakers: the sound recorded in Polish as "ci"
in "Marcinkiewicz" is between "tsi" and "tshi". (Not to
mention the end "cz" which is a touch lower than English
"ch" as in "which".)

Slavek(ZVK)

Eric Behr

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May 15, 2001, 11:48:10 PM5/15/01

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Mahr-cheen-kievitch should do.

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Karen Gross

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May 16, 2001, 8:40:07 AM5/16/01

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>Mart - sink - ye - vitch (accent on "ye")

Ok now that we know how to say his name let me ask who is
Marcinkiewicz ???

Thanks,
Karen

David C. Ullrich

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May 16, 2001, 10:09:57 AM5/16/01

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On 15 May 2001 19:49:37 -0400, kov...@mcmail.cis.McMaster.CA (Zdislav
V. Kovarik) wrote:

>In article <3B01B577...@cam.ac.uk>,
>Rupert Levene <rh...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>?
>
>Mart - sink - ye - vitch (accent on "ye")
>
>Next:
>
>Lukasiewicz = Polish
>No kidding: Lukasiewicz's parenthesis-free notation
>was dubbed "Polish notation".

Haha. Of course this raises the question of the
pronunciation of the word "Polish". I thought I
knew but suddenly I'm not so sure...

David C. Ullrich
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Michał Wasiak

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May 16, 2001, 4:34:48 PM5/16/01

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If you want I can send you an mp3 file. I am a Pole, so you can depend
on my pronunciation :)

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Michal Wasiak

Michal Wasiak

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May 16, 2001, 4:35:18 PM5/16/01

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On 16 May 2001 03:48:10 GMT, be...@himalaya.math.niu.edu (Eric Behr)
wrote:

>Mahr-cheen-kievitch should do.

I thing it's quite good. I only don't know how would you pronounce
'Mahr' and 'kie'. The letter 'i' in 'vitch' should be pronounced like
the letter 'e'.

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David Petry

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May 16, 2001, 8:32:17 PM5/16/01

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Zdislav V. Kovarik wrote

While we're on this topic, how does one pronounce
"Zdislav"?

Zdislav V. Kovarik

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May 16, 2001, 10:53:44 PM5/16/01

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In article <p1FM6.633$y84.2...@news.uswest.net>,
David Petry <dpe...@qwest.net> wrote:
:
:Zdislav V. Kovarik wrote

:
:While we're on this topic, how does one pronounce
:"Zdislav"?

A good question.

Start with Sti - slaf, and then make the first syllable
"voiced": engage the vocal chords a tiny moment before
setting the mouth for a "z" sound, to have enough air for
turning "t" into "d". And this "t/d" is palatalized,
as in French "tien".

Cheers, Slavek (that's what my fellow Czechs call me, to
avoid having to pronouce Zdislav :-)= (ZVK)