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genericaudioperson

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Jan 7, 2009, 1:43:00 AM1/7/09
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Hello,

Mathematics and statistics are closely related. Yet they are
different enough to have different majors, different classes and
different careers.

What would make someone to decide to become a statistician instead of
a mathemetician (or the reverse)?

For example, it seems that mathematics at the upper levels gets
submersed in proofs and theory. The apparent goal being to create a
mathemetician who can expand the universe of valid mathematical
ideas. Whether these pursuits are useful to the real world (i.e. a
business will pay you to work for them to produce answers) is
secondary to the quest to expand the universe of theory and proofs.
Solving unknowns and developing new fields of math always provide the
next task to be completed.

It looks like upper level statistics gets immersed in computer
software. The apparent goal being to create a statistician who can
compile real experiment data and process this information to arrive at
real world answers to problems in industry. Whether the statistician
expands the field of known statistical methods or not is secondary to
their quest to make themselves useful by solving real problems in
industry. Data collection and processing always provides the next
task to be completed.

Those are my initial impressions, which are obviously able to be
improved since I don't know all that much about it.

So if anyone could post some ideas, that would be great. For
example, something like "If you hate doing.... then forget math
because you never get away from it". "If you like... then ... is
probably a good option".

Mensanator

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Jan 7, 2009, 3:13:59 AM1/7/09
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On Jan 7, 12:43�am, genericaudioperson

<genericaudioper...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Mathematics and statistics are closely related. �Yet they are
> different enough to have different majors, different classes and
> different careers.

Do you have to declare your major at the get go or
can you take some classes from each and figure out what
you're good at?

Ken Pledger

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Jan 7, 2009, 2:21:18 PM1/7/09
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<6107df03-5663-451a...@e18g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
genericaudioperson <genericau...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> ....
> What would make someone decide to become a statistician instead of
> a mathematician ....?


The present job market might be worth bearing in mind. There's a
severe world-wide shortage of good mathematical statisticians.

Ken Pledger.

Tim Norfolk

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Jan 7, 2009, 7:19:27 PM1/7/09
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On Jan 7, 1:43�am, genericaudioperson <genericaudioper...@hotmail.com>
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In addition to the other suggestions, bear in mind that there are many
jobs for mathematicians that involve industrial and financial
modelling.

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spudnik

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Jan 8, 2009, 6:13:02 PM1/8/09
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the dood from S.T.A.T.I.S.T.I.C.S. laid it down
at the Math Club meeting;
don't get a PhD in *any* thing but this;
lies, polls, methodology.

> methodology, important part of the jobhttp://www.census.gov/popest/topics/methodology/

thus:
I think it is fairly safe to say,
Man could always count *with* coconuts;
just don't hang-out underneath even one!
> man could not even count coconuts, and there are many open questions

thus:
truly, they were the most-obvious-ever-Druids-award kind
of Druids, but that doesn't mean, they were totally fake, and
lots of kids have used better-quality 2-by-9s;
farmer's are good business men, two. D&D,
not the world's greatest carpenters!
> I will guess that Wookiepoopya has no rational explanation
> for cropcircles, other than "Doug and Dave
> with *a very large pile* of 2by9s."

thus:
groovier than a pile of rocks,
just by comparison with the Face and Genitals ... a-hem;
Stranger in "a" Strange Land territory.

thus:
dood was totally quanta; I mean, if
you're going to say "it's a singleton -- yeah;
that's what it is!" well, OK;
what spin does it partake of -- is it a fermion?

I know, there are those of you who'd jump
on the answer, "weellll, if there's only one?" -- and
so would I, myself & what's-his-name; me, not just so as
to not fall into the Many Universes default; except,
when I'm "@Nancago.edU of." -- death to the triangle!

any way, Stanton F. is higher than a pile of rocks, iff
you listen to Art Bell et sequentia Al Nouri;
is his first name really Albert?... does Bell parlay
of distance at a spooky action, huge media conglome,
semiotic highway signage?... oh, my;
they are actually better than cropcircles, if
you can just get the slant on the "correct side;"
even a mobius strip has at least one!

thus:
did Copernicus expose Ptolemy's hoax?... and, if not,
how'd you know that it was wrong --
did you know that the sky is round?

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