FAQ: What to do about spam.
William Elliot
Google Groups is the major source of spam on Usenet. Google Groups is
also a large source of off topic and/or idiotic posts. For that reason,
a growing number of people and even some news servers, are now blocking
all posts from Google Groups.
http://www.improve-usenet.org/index.html
It is easy to avoid the deluge of spam from Google.
First, use a news server other then Google.
Second, download a news reader that allows filtering.
Filtering can be used to block most spam or alternatively, to simply block
all Google posts (most efficiently done filtering on Message-ID).
NNTP news servers
Most ISP include a news server with the account
http://www.teranews.com (one time $3.95 set up cost, worth it)
http://news.aioe.org text only, no cost
News servers that block spam
http://www.glorb.com/usenet.php
http://news.motzarella.org no cost
http://news.datemas.de no cost
http://www.albasani.net no cost
http://individual.net 10 Euro/year
News servers that block spam and all posts from Google Groups
http://www.usenet4all.se no cost
http://www.databasix.com/groups $50/year
News readers
Dialog http://www.40tude.com/dialog/download.htm
Xnews http://xnews.newsguy.com for file naming
cf. http://blinkynet.net/comp/xnewsrels.html
SeaMonkey (won't filter on Message-ID)
http://www.seamonkey-project.org
Thunderbird (won't filter on Message-ID)
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird
Forte Agent ($29, won't filter on Message-ID)
Unix Pan http://pan.rebelbase.com
KDE http://kontact.kde.org/knode
XPN http://sourceforge.net/projects/xpn
Mac: MT-Newswatcher, hogwash, MacSOUP, thoth
Cross Platform http://www.claws-mail.org
Proxy news servers
NewsProxy http://bearware.info/NewsProxy/newsproxy.html
Hamster Playground http://www.elbiah.de/hamster/pg
Unix Leafnode http://leafnode.sourceforge.net/
Noffle http://noffle.sourceforge.net
News sources, web and otherwise and references to news sites
http://www.readfreenews.net
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_news_clients
http://dmoz.org/Computers/Usenet/Public_News_Servers
http://www.alt.free.newsservers.net
http://freenews.maxbaud.net
http://news.motzarella.org
http://www.newsreaders.com
http://news.datemas.de
commercial news servers
Giganews http://www.giganews.com
Supernews http://www.supernews.com (bought Giganews, yuck)
Newsfeeds http://www.newsfeeds.com
Usenetserve http://www.usenetserver.com
Easynews http://www.easynews.com
Altopia https://www.altopia.com
Newsguy https://www.newsguy.com
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Newsgroups for Google spam, news servers, news readers and filters:
news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
news.software.readers
Newsgroup for discussing Google: alt.google-sucks
If your news server isn't carrying it, ask your
system administrator to add it to the active file.
Google should be given a Usenet Death Penalty (UDP)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_Death_Penalty
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/U/Usenet-Death-Penalty.html
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/I/Internet-Death-Penalty.html
Use another web search such as
http://yahoo.com
http://www.webcrawler.com
http://www.ask.com
and some other email service than Google's gmail. Then eventually
Google may come to understand that it's doing something wrong.
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Essential features for a quality news reader.
Correct quoting.
Ascii-only posting.
Correct referencing of prior messages in the thread.
Filter capability to allow pruning of incoming messages.
Spell checking option for outgoing messages.
Offline news reading
No ads, cookies, etc.
Elimination of Google's "hide quoted", "show quoted" nonsense.
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Dirk Van de moortel
Pine.BSI.4.58.08...@vista.hevanet.com
> What to do about spam.
Whatever you do about spam, DO NOT ADVERTISE it.
Dirk Vdm
agapi...@aol.com
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Many thanks for your post. It's truly dismaying to see the amount of
garbage on sci.math/google these days. I am not really up on servers,
NNTP, etc. and would like to access sci.math without having the
garbage. Is there a way to do this, and if so can you suggest some
specific simple steps I might take to do so? Thanks again for your
help with this awful nuisance.
Dann Corbit
news:d1634c4c-598f-40cc...@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
On May 11, 10:59 pm, William Elliot <ma...@hevanet.remove.com> wrote:
I use this message rule:
Apply this rule after the message arrives
Where the From line contains '@126.com' or '@163.com' or '@21cn.com' or
'@21replicawatch.com' or '@aaa-replica-watch.com' or '@cnreplicas.com' or
'@eyou.com' or '@gmail.com' or '@googlemail.com' or '@hotmail.com' or
'@hsshopping.com' or '@hugo.com' or '@myshoesdepot.com' or '@qq.com' or
'@sina.com' or '@sohu.com' or '@vansoftc' or '@yahoo.co.in' or '@yahoo.com'
or '@yahoo.com.cn' or 'NoNux' or 'hiro...@holocaust.japan' or
'privacy.atAnonymousRemailer' or 'CHURCH MOLESTED CHILDS' or
'msk...@windowslive.com' or 'dale....@comcast.net' or
'@watches-replicas.com' or '@localizador.gps.com' or 'a...@srry.fr' or
'@jewelry-wholesaler.net' or '@watchesprice.net' or '@msn.com' or
'@yahoo.cn' or '@mail.ru' or 'black@barry ?? .liddy' or '@hanmail.net' or
'@hotmail.co.uk' or '@watchesblog.cn' or '@sbcglobal.net' or
'@global-replica-watch.com' or '@watchec.com' or '@agency7.com' or
'@scream.net.ua' or '@SATELLITE.COM' or '@weekly.net.cn'
Delete it
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
William Elliot
>
> Many thanks for your post. It's truly dismaying to see the amount of
> garbage on sci.math/google these days. I am not really up on servers,
> NNTP, etc. and would like to access sci.math without having the
> garbage. Is there a way to do this, and if so can you suggest some
> specific simple steps I might take to do so? Thanks again for your
> help with this awful nuisance.
>
First get a different news server that Google Groups.
Often your ISP, internet service provider, includes a news server
with your service. If so, then use it.
Second download a newsreader other than Google groups.
I've give you many reference for both a server and a reader
and some additional sites for more information.
I don't know about your computer system, it's up to you to learn about it
and how to get to work proficiently for you and/or to inquire of the news
group I listed or other newsgroups what to do.
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agapi...@aol.com
Dave L. Renfro
> Many thanks for your post. It's truly dismaying to
> see the amount of garbage on sci.math/google these
> days. I am not really up on servers, NNTP, etc. and
> would like to access sci.math without having the
> garbage. Is there a way to do this, and if so can
> you suggest some specific simple steps I might take
> to do so? Thanks again for your help with this awful
> nuisance.
In the past few months I've been reading sci.math
at The Math Forum instead of google. When the spam
surge began a few months ago, Math Forum's web site
was also posting the spam, but in recent weeks they've
managed to clean things up quite well.
I don't know your situation, but in my case servers,
NNTP, and the like aren't really an option, since
for the past year my internet access has been limited
to when I'm at work and when I'm at a nearby university
library.
The easiest way to find Math Forum's sci.math site
is to google sci.math and choose the top hit. Or
use this URL:
http://mathforum.org/kb/forum.jspa?forumID=13
Dave L. Renfro
agapi...@aol.com
Good simple solution. Many thanks!
Michael Press
<10181842.1210691965...@nitrogen.mathforum.org>,
With the understanding that Math Forum throws
away header information. They do not copy the
contents of the References: header line into
the reply that they compose. This puts a hardship
on those who use the References: header line.
For instance many news readers have a command
`Open All References.' When run against a
Math Forum message, it opens only the message
that they replied to, not a path up the tree
of threaded messages.
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Michael Press
Mensanator
>
> Google Groups is the major source of spam on Usenet. �Google Groups is
> also a large source of off topic and/or idiotic posts. �For that reason,
> a growing number of people and even some news servers, are now blocking
> all posts from Google Groups.
>
> � � � �http://www.improve-usenet.org/index.html
>
> It is easy to avoid the deluge of spam from Google.
> � � � � First, use a news server other then Google.
Saw this today. What plans do you have for when
there IS no server other than Google? Are you going
to sit on your ass and do nothing until after the
government destroys Usenet?
<quote>
Time Warner Cable said it will cease "to offer customers access to any
Usenet newsgroups, a decision that will affect customers nationwide.
Sprint said it would no longer offer any of the tens of thousands of
alt.* Usenet newsgroups. Verizon's plan is to eliminate some "fairly
broad newsgroup areas."
It's not quite the death of Usenet (which has been predicted,
incorrectly, countless times). But if a politician can pressure three
of the largest Internet providers into censorial acquiescence, it may
only be a matter of time before smaller ones like Supernews, Giganews,
and Usenet.com feel the squeeze.
</quote>