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sunweiss

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Oct 24, 2009, 1:10:48 AM10/24/09
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Hi!

Im building a light application and need a rubber/silicone pad type
material that is highly reflective. Ive been searching and searching
on google but i cant seem to come across the right material.

The pad doesnt have to be of rubber or silicone, just something that
is flexible and foldable, something like this product (but reflective
of course)

http://www.meijer.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=135010&CAWELAID=372694208

any suggestions much appreciated.

sunweiss

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Oct 24, 2009, 1:38:42 AM10/24/09
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oh, forgot to mention that this application will be exposed to 400 deg
F and thus the link to an oven silicone pad above.

Phil Hobbs

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Oct 24, 2009, 11:04:16 AM10/24/09
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3M makes glass sphere loaded tape.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Phil Hobbs

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Oct 24, 2009, 11:05:34 AM10/24/09
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Missed the bit about 400F. Forget tape. You can get the glass spheres
separately, e.g. the kind they mix with traffic paint, and they might
survive OK.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Mark Thorson

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Oct 24, 2009, 1:48:29 PM10/24/09
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Phil Hobbs wrote:
>
> Missed the bit about 400F. Forget tape. You can get the glass spheres
> separately, e.g. the kind they mix with traffic paint, and they might
> survive OK.

For example, here:

http://www.pqj.co.jp/en/product/02.html

http://www.adbruf.com/ballotini_glass_beads_retrolux.htm

sunweiss

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Oct 24, 2009, 3:49:54 PM10/24/09
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Thanks Phil & Mark,

I'd seen the beads before. The problem with them that my application
requires the angle of inclination be the same as angle of reflection.
Is there some kind of metal spray I can simple spray on that have good
penetration (i.e. stickiness), on say a silicone pad, and doesnt
scrape of all that easily?

Phil Hobbs

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Oct 24, 2009, 4:04:29 PM10/24/09
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What are you actually trying to do here? There's high temperature
aluminum paint if all you want is a shiny surface.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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pamela

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Oct 25, 2009, 9:07:38 AM10/25/09
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Phil Hobbs wrote:
> sunweiss wrote:
>> Thanks Phil & Mark,
>>
>> I'd seen the beads before. The problem with them that my application
>> requires the angle of inclination be the same as angle of reflection.
>> Is there some kind of metal spray I can simple spray on that have good
>> penetration (i.e. stickiness), on say a silicone pad, and doesnt
>> scrape of all that easily?
>>
>
> What are you actually trying to do here? There's high temperature
> aluminum paint if all you want is a shiny surface.
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Hobbs
>

Begins to sound of the quest for unobtanium. Maybe it is time to devise
a different design rather than look for an "amazing" materials solution.

ddeu

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Oct 25, 2009, 6:53:29 PM10/25/09
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If metal foil or thin sheet wont do, you are in trouble.
"sunweiss" <sunw...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:9666d04e-00bc-4aaf...@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com...

sunweiss

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Oct 26, 2009, 2:38:29 AM10/26/09
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I will try the high temperature AL spray. Would it stick on one of
those silicone pads?

I actually came across one material that would be ideal but, im
guessing, will be ridiculously expensive.

http://www.google.com/search?q=metal+rubber

On Oct 25, 3:53 pm, "ddeu" <daviddeuch...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> If metal foil or thin sheet wont do, you are in trouble."sunweiss" <sunwe...@mailinator.com> wrote in message


>
> news:9666d04e-00bc-4aaf...@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Hi!
>
> > Im building a light application and need a rubber/silicone pad type
> > material that is highly reflective. Ive been searching and searching
> > on google but i cant seem to come across the right material.
>
> > The pad doesnt have to be of rubber or silicone, just something that
> > is flexible and foldable, something like this product (but reflective
> > of course)
>

> >http://www.meijer.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=135010&CAWELAID=3...
>
> > any suggestions much appreciated.

ddeu

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Oct 26, 2009, 3:42:06 AM10/26/09
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It probably will not be as reflective as you want
It probably will not stick to the silicone
It probably will not flex as much as the silicone.

It is possible to metallise plastics with the appropriate surface treatment
but the coating cracks and falls off if flexed.

Shiny=metal. It is quite possible to make metal parts flex, but it is by
design of the shape not in bulk form.

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iman way

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Nov 5, 2009, 4:57:24 PM11/5/09
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On 26 أكتوبر, 14:42, "ddeu" <daviddeuch...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> It probably will not be as reflective as you want
> It probably will not stick to the silicone
> It probably will not flex as much as the silicone.
>
> It is possible to metallise plastics with the appropriate surface treatment
> but the coating cracks and falls off if flexed.
>
> Shiny=metal. It is quite possible to make metal parts flex, but it is by
> design of the shape not in bulk form.
>
> "sunweiss" <sunwe...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
>
> news:77fdee8d-8563-4969...@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> I will try the high temperature AL spray. Would it stick on one of
> those silicone pads?
>
> I actually came across one material that would be ideal but, im
> guessing, will be ridiculously expensive.
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=metal+rubber
>
> On Oct 25, 3:53 pm, "ddeu" <daviddeuch...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > If metal foil or thin sheet wont do, you are in trouble."sunweiss"
> > <sunwe...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:9666d04e-00bc-4aaf...@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > Hi!
>
> > > Im building a light application and need a rubber/silicone pad type
> > > material that is highly reflective. Ive been searching and searching
> > > on google but i cant seem to come across the right material.
>
> > > The pad doesnt have to be of rubber or silicone, just something that
> > > is flexible and foldable, something like this product (but reflective
> > > of course)
>
> > >http://www.meijer.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=135010&CAWELAID=3...
>
> > > any suggestions much appreciated.- إخفاء النص المقتبس -
>
> - عرض النص المقتبس -

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