100% of Europe is radioactive, from WW II

[John H. Gohde]

100% of Europe is radioactive, from the atomic bombs that were dropped
on Japan during World War II.

I have pointed out this little detail to Taka a long time ago.
Unfortunately, Taka is a slow learner. :(

In fact, 100% of the planet Earth is radioactive, from the atomic
bombs that were dropped on Japan during World War II.

Maybe Taka needs a brain transplant?

[vittyguy]

In fact the entire earth was radioactive before atom bombs. Radioactive
decay is a normal process,, which is the so called "background" radioactive
level.

[Bob Officer]

On 16 May 2013 21:09:48 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, vitty guy
wrote:

>
>In fact the entire earth was radioactive before atom bombs. Radioactive
>decay is a normal process,, which is the so called "background" radioactive
>level.

The human body naturally accumulates radioactive potassium.

http://muller.lbl.gov/teaching/physics10/old%20physics%2010/physics%2010%20notes/HumanRadioactivity.html
<cite>
A typical human body contains approximately 40 grams of potassium.
About 1/1000 of this is potassium-40, a radioactive isotope. This
means that you contain 0.04 grams = 40 milligrams of a radioactive
cancer-producing isotope in your body. This is not an artificial
radioactivity, but it is left over from the formation of potassium in
the supernova that gave birth to our solar system. The half life of
potassium-40 is 1.26 billion years. The solar system was created
about 5 billion years ago. That is not enough time for all of the
radioactive potassium to decay, and that is why there is so much in
our bodies.

Atoms of radiopotassium in your body explode approximately 12,000
times every second. Your body is radioactive. Only 11% of the
radioactive decays yield a gamma ray, so there are 1,300
self-inflicted gammas per second from your own body. (This is not
easy to see in a geiger counter, because gammas are hard to detect.)
This results in an exposure of approximely 0.00018 Sieverts over a 50
year period. If the linear hypothesis is correct, this is responsible
on average for 7 millionths of a cancers per individual. Since 0.2 of
us die from cancer, this self-inflicted radiation is responsible for
1/28000 of our cancers.
</cite>

http://www.marts100.com/Natural.htm
<cite>
A number of radioactive materials occur naturally in the earth
itself. These radioactive materials all have very long half lives,
and have been present in the earth since its creation. At the
creation of the earth during the Big Bang, perhaps about 15 billion
years ago, virtually all possible atoms were created. Most of the
radioactive atoms will have decayed away, but there are three
important radionuclides that have such long half lives that even
after 15 billion years, they are still present in the earth. These
radionuclides are:

Uranium-238 half life = 4.46 billion years;

Thorium-232 half life = 14 billion years

Potassium-40 half life = 1.3 billion years

</cite>

and

<Cite>

An important radionuclide that can be found in the human body is
potassium-40 (it is also found in soils and rocks, and contributes to
the doses considered in the previous section). The human body of a
70 kg man contains about 140 g of potassium, most of which is located
in muscle. Of this potassium, about 0.018% is radioactive
potassium-40. This corresponds to a mass of potassium-40 of about
0.03 g. It can be shown by calculation that the decay of this
potassium-40 produces about 6000 radioactive decays every second, and
therefore body tissues will acquire a radiation dose. The dose
arising from potassium-40 in the body (and a contribution due to
naturally occurring potassium-40 in rocks and soils) is about 0.1
mSv/yr.

</cite>

I wonder how many bananas and other potassium rich foods 'odd john'
eats daily.


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His mama would have to mash 'em with a fork because he's toothless.

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[John H. Gohde]

On May 16, 6:50 pm, Woody <wo...@woodworks-nospam.com> wrote:
> On 5/16/2013 6:32 PM, Bob Officer wrote:
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> > On 16 May 2013 21:09:48 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, vitty guy
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> >> In fact the entire earth was radioactive before atom bombs.  Radioactive
> >> decay is a normal process,, which is the so called "background" radioactive
> >> level.
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> >http://muller.lbl.gov/teaching/physics10/old%20physics%2010/physics%2...

Perhaps, if YOU were to focus?

The ONLY one with a problem is Taka.

Just thought that you might want to check YOUR I.Q. before YOU make a
fool of YOURself, one more time.

[John H. Gohde]

On May 16, 6:32 pm, Bob Officer <*.*@*.*> wrote:
> On 16 May 2013 21:09:48 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, vitty guy
> wrote:
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> >In fact the entire earth was radioactive before atom bombs.  Radioactive
> >decay is a normal process,, which is the so called "background" radioactive
> >level.
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> The human body naturally accumulates radioactive potassium.
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> http://muller.lbl.gov/teaching/physics10/old%20physics%2010/physics%2...

Did YOUR I.Q. just drop 50 points?

In the soft sciences, that phenomena is called the Baseline Radiation
Level.

No Shit Sherlock, ... there is a Radiation Baseline.

Sorry Bob, but YOU are WRONG while MOI is Correct. Radiation released
during the World War II era made 100% of Europe radioactive. In other
words, the atomic bomb associated radiation contamination rose
Europe's Radiation Level above the previous Baseline level.

In other words, Dumb Dumb, scientists zero out the baseline level,
whatever it might be, in order to measure increases in whatever you
are measuring.

Here endeth Bob Officer's Science Lesson for today.

Boy Bob, YOU are quite the Dumb-Ass. :)

[Taka]

"Sure" all the normally undetectable exotic alpha-emitters like
PLUTONIUM have been part of the "natural" radioactivity ...

[Taka]

Fake Science Alert: Fukushima Radiation Can’t Be Compared to Bananas
or X-Rays

Nuclear Energy Apologists Are Going Bananas

Nuclear apologists pretend that people are exposed to more radiation
from bananas than from Fukushima.

But the EPA explains:

The human body is born with potassium-40 [the type of radiation found
in bananas] in its tissues and it is the most common radionuclide in
human tissues and in food. We evolved in the presence of potassium-40
and our bodies have well-developed repair mechanisms to respond to its
effects. The concentration of potassium-40 in the human body is
constant and not affected by concentrations in the environment.

Wikipedia notes:

The amount of potassium (and therefore of 40K) in the human body is
fairly constant because of homeostatsis, so that any excess absorbed
from food is quickly compensated by the elimination of an equal
amount.

It follows that the additional radiation exposure due to eating a
banana lasts only for a few hours after ingestion, namely the time it
takes for the normal potassium contents of the body to be restored by
the kidneys.

BoingBoing reports:

A lot of things you might not suspect of being radioactive are,
including Brazil nuts, and your own body. And this fact is sometimes
used to downplay the impact of exposure to radiation via medical
treatments or accidental intake.

***

I contacted Geoff Meggitt—a retired health physicist, and former
editor of the Journal of Radiological Protection—to find out more.

Meggitt worked for the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority and its
later commercial offshoots for 25 years. He says there’s an enormous
variation in the risks associated with swallowing the same amount of
different radioactive materials—and even some difference between the
same dose, of the same material, but in different chemical forms.

It all depends on two factors:

1) The physical characteristics of the radioactivity—i.e, What’s its
half-life? Is the radiation emitted alpha, beta or gamma?

2) The way the the radioactivity travels around and is taken up by the
body—i.e., How much is absorbed by the blood stream? What tissues does
this specific isotope tend to accumulate in?

The Potassium-40 in bananas is a particularly poor model isotope to
use, Meggitt says, because the potassium content of our bodies seems
to be under homeostatic control. When you eat a banana, your body’s
level of Potassium-40 doesn’t increase. You just get rid of some
excess Potassium-40. The net dose of a banana is zero.

And that’s the difference between a useful educational tool and
propaganda. (And I say this as somebody who is emphatically not
against nuclear energy.) Bananas aren’t really going to give anyone “a
more realistic assessment of actual risk”, they’re just going to
further distort the picture.
Most “Background Radiation” Didn’t Exist Before Nuclear Weapons
Testing and Nuclear Reactors

Nuclear apologists also pretend that we get a higher exposure from
background radiation (when we fly, for example) or x-rays then we get
from nuclear accidents.

In fact, there was exactly zero background radioactive cesium or
iodine before above-ground nuclear testing and nuclear accidents
started.

Wikipedia provides some details on the distribution of cesium-137 due
to human activities:

Small amounts of caesium-134 and caesium-137 were released into the
environment during nearly all nuclear weapon tests and some nuclear
accidents, most notably the Chernobyl disaster.

***

Caesium-137 is unique in that it is totally anthropogenic. Unlike most
other radioisotopes, caesium-137 is not produced from its non-
radioactive isotope, but from uranium. It did not occur in nature
before nuclear weapons testing began. By observing the characteristic
gamma rays emitted by this isotope, it is possible to determine
whether the contents of a given sealed container were made before or
after the advent of atomic bomb explosions. This procedure has been
used by researchers to check the authenticity of certain rare wines,
most notably the purported “Jefferson bottles”.

As the EPA notes:

Cesium-133 is the only naturally occurring isotope and is non-
radioactive; all other isotopes, including cesium-137, are produced by
human activity.

Similarly, iodine-131 is not a naturally occurring isotope. As the
Encyclopedia Britannica notes:

The only naturally occurring isotope of iodine is stable iodine-127.
An exceptionally useful radioactive isotope is iodine-131…

(Fukushima has spewed much more radioactive cesium and iodine than
Chernobyl. The amount of radioactive cesium released by Fukushima was
some 20-30 times higher than initially admitted. Japanese experts say
that Fukushima is currently releasing up to 93 billion becquerels of
radioactive cesium into the ocean each day. And the cesium levels
hitting the west coast of North America will keep increasing for
several years. Fukushima is still spewing radiation into the
environment, and the amount of radioactive fuel at Fukushima dwarfs
Chernobyl.)

As such, the concept of “background radiation” is largely a misnomer.
Most of the radiation we encounter today – especially the most
dangerous types – did not even exist in nature before we started
tinkering with nuclear weapons and reactors. In a sense, we are all
guinea pigs.
Mixing Apples (External) and Oranges (Internal)

Moreover, radioactive particles which end up inside of our lungs or
gastrointestinal track, as opposed to radiation which comes to us from
outside of our skin are much more dangerous than general exposures to
radiation.

The National Research Council’s Committee to Assess the Scientific
Information for the Radiation Exposure Screening and Education Program
explains:

Radioactivity generates radiation by emitting particles. Radioactive
materials outside the the body are called external emitters, and
radioactive materials located within the body are called internal
emitters.

Internal emitters are much more dangerous than external emitters.
Specifically, one is only exposed to radiation as long as he or she is
near the external emitter.

For example, when you get an x-ray, an external emitter is turned on
for an instant, and then switched back off.

But internal emitters steadily and continuously emit radiation for as
long as the particle remains radioactive, or until the person dies –
whichever occurs first. As such, they are much more dangerous.

As the head of a Tokyo-area medical clinic – Dr. Junro Fuse, Internist
and head of Kosugi Medical Clinic – said:

Risk from internal exposure is 200-600 times greater than risk from
external exposure.

See this, this, this and this.

By way of analogy, external emitters are like dodgeballs being thrown
at you. If you get hit, it might hurt. But it’s unlikely you’ll get
hit again in the same spot.

Internal emitters – on the other hand – are like a black belt martial
artist moving in really close and hammering you again and again and
again in the exact same spot. That can do real damage.

There are few natural high-dose internal emitters. Bananas, brazil
nuts and some other foods contain radioactive potassium-40, but in
extremely low doses. And – as explained above – our bodies have
adapted to handle this type of radiation.

True, some parts of the country are at higher risk of exposure to
naturally-occurring radium than others.

But the cesium which was scattered all over the place by above-ground
nuclear tests and the Chernobyl and Fukushima accidents has a much
longer half life, and can easily contaminate food and water supplies.
As the New York Times notes:

Over the long term, the big threat to human health is cesium-137,
which has a half-life of 30 years.

At that rate of disintegration, John Emsley wrote in “Nature’s
Building Blocks” (Oxford, 2001), “it takes over 200 years to reduce it
to 1 percent of its former level.”

It is cesium-137 that still contaminates much of the land in Ukraine
around the Chernobyl reactor.

***

Cesium-137 mixes easily with water and is chemically similar to
potassium. It thus mimics how potassium gets metabolized in the body
and can enter through many foods, including milk.

As the EPA notes in a discussion entitled ” What can I do to protect
myself and my family from cesium-137?”:

Cesium-137 that is dispersed in the environment, like that from
atmospheric testing, is impossible to avoid.

Radioactive iodine can also become a potent internal emitter. As the
Times notes:

Iodine-131 has a half-life of eight days and is quite dangerous to
human health. If absorbed through contaminated food, especially milk
and milk products, it will accumulate in the thyroid and cause cancer.

(In addition to spewing massive amounts of radioactive iodine 131,
Fukushima also pumped out huge amounts of radioactive iodine 129 –
which has a half-life of 15.7 million years. Fukushima has also dumped
up to 900 trillion becquerels of radioactive strontium-90 – which is a
powerful internal emitter which mimics calcium and collects in our
bones – into the ocean.).

The bottom line is that there is some naturally-occurring background
radiation, which can – at times – pose a health hazard (especially in
parts of the country with high levels of radioactive radon or radium).

But cesium-137 and radioactive iodine – the two main radioactive
substances being spewed by the leaking Japanese nuclear plants – are
not naturally-occurring substances, and can become powerful internal
emitters which can cause tremendous damage to the health of people who
are unfortunate enough to breathe in even a particle of the
substances, or ingest them in food or water.

Unlike low-levels of radioactive potassium found in bananas – which
our bodies have adapted to over many years – cesium-137 and iodine 131
are brand new, extremely dangerous substances.

And unlike naturally-occurring internal emitters like radon and radium
– whose distribution is largely concentrated in certain areas of the
country – radioactive cesium and iodine, as well as strontium and
other dangerous radionuclides, are being distributed globally through
weapons testing and nuclear accidents.
Cumulative and Synergistic Damage

A military briefing written by the U.S. Army for commanders in Iraq
states:

Hazards from low level radiation are long-term, not acute effects…
Every exposure increases risk of cancer.

(Military briefings for commanders often contain less propaganda than
literature aimed at civilians, as the commanders have to know the
basic facts to be able to assess risk to their soldiers.)

The briefing states that doses are cumulative: the more times someone
is exposed, the greater the potential damage.

In addition, exposure to different radioactive particles may increase
the damage. Specifically, the International Commissionon Radiological
Protection notes:

It has been shown that in some cases a synergistic effect results when
several organs of the body are irradiated simultaneously.

(“Synergistic” means that the whole is greater than the sum of the
parts.)

Because different radionuclides accumulate in different parts of the
body – e.g. cesium in the muscles, kidneys, heart and liver, iodine
in the thyroid, and strontium in the bones – the exposure to many
types of radiation may be more dangerous than exposure just to one or
two types.

As such, adding new radioactive compounds like cesium and iodine into
the environment may cause synergistic damage to our health.
The Bottom Line

Even though the nuclear industry and government have been covering up
the dangers of radiation ever since nuclear weapons were invented,
there is overwhelming scientific evidence that even low levels of
radiation can damage our health.

Postscript: Any environmentalist who thinks that nuclear power is
necessary to reduce greenhouse gasses has fallen prey to false
propaganda from the nuclear industry.

SOURCE: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/04/fake-science-alert-fukushima-radiation-cant-be-compared-to-bananas-or-x-rays.html

[Taka]

Even Low-Level Radioactivity Is Damaging, Scientists Conclude

Even the very lowest levels of radiation are harmful to life,
scientists have concluded in the Cambridge Philosophical Society's
journal Biological Reviews. Reporting the results of a wide-ranging
analysis of 46 peer-reviewed studies published over the past 40 years,
researchers from the University of South Carolina and the University
of Paris-Sud found that variation in low-level, natural background
radiation was found to have small, but highly statistically
significant, negative effects on DNA as well as several measures of
health.

The review is a meta-analysis of studies of locations around the globe
that have very high natural background radiation as a result of the
minerals in the ground there, including Ramsar, Iran, Mombasa, Kenya,
Lodeve, France, and Yangjiang, China. These, and a few other
geographic locations with natural background radiation that greatly
exceeds normal amounts, have long drawn scientists intent on
understanding the effects of radiation on life. Individual studies by
themselves, however, have often only shown small effects on small
populations from which conclusive statistical conclusions were
difficult to draw.

"When you're looking at such small effect sizes, the size of the
population you need to study is huge," said co-author Timothy
Mousseau, a biologist in the College of Arts and Sciences at the
University of South Carolina. "Pooling across multiple studies, in
multiple areas, and in a rigorous statistical manner provides a tool
to really get at these questions about low-level radiation."

Mousseau and co-author Anders Møller of the University of Paris-Sud
combed the scientific literature, examining more than 5,000 papers
involving natural background radiation that were narrowed to 46 for
quantitative comparison. The selected studies all examined both a
control group and a more highly irradiated population and quantified
the size of the radiation levels for each. Each paper also reported
test statistics that allowed direct comparison between the studies.

The organisms studied included plants and animals, but had a large
preponderance of human subjects. Each study examined one or more
possible effects of radiation, such as DNA damage measured in the lab,
prevalence of a disease such as Down's Syndrome, or the sex ratio
produced in offspring. For each effect, a statistical algorithm was
used to generate a single value, the effect size, which could be
compared across all the studies.

The scientists reported significant negative effects in a range of
categories, including immunology, physiology, mutation and disease
occurrence. The frequency of negative effects was beyond that of
random chance.

"There's been a sentiment in the community that because we don't see
obvious effects in some of these places, or that what we see tends to
be small and localized, that maybe there aren't any negative effects
from low levels of radiation," said Mousseau. "But when you do the
meta-analysis, you do see significant negative effects."

"It also provides evidence that there is no threshold below which
there are no effects of radiation," he added. "A theory that has been
batted around a lot over the last couple of decades is the idea that
is there a threshold of exposure below which there are no negative
consequences. These data provide fairly strong evidence that there is
no threshold -- radiation effects are measurable as far down as you
can go, given the statistical power you have at hand."

Mousseau hopes their results, which are consistent with the "linear-no-
threshold" model for radiation effects, will better inform the debate
about exposure risks. "With the levels of contamination that we have
seen as a result of nuclear power plants, especially in the past, and
even as a result of Chernobyl and Fukushima and related accidents,
there's an attempt in the industry to downplay the doses that the
populations are getting, because maybe it's only one or two times
beyond what is thought to be the natural background level," he said.
"But they're assuming the natural background levels are fine."

"And the truth is, if we see effects at these low levels, then we have
to be thinking differently about how we develop regulations for
exposures, and especially intentional exposures to populations, like
the emissions from nuclear power plants, medical procedures, and even
some x-ray machines at airports."

SOURCE: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/11/121113134224.htm

[Taka]

On May 17, 10:14 am, Taka <taka0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Fake Science Alert: Fukushima Radiation Can’t Be Compared to Bananas
> or X-Rays
>
> Nuclear Energy Apologists Are Going Bananas
>
> Nuclear apologists pretend that people are exposed to more radiation
> from bananas than from Fukushima.
>
> But the EPA explains:
>
> The human body is born with potassium-40 [the type of radiation found
> in bananas] in its tissues and it is the most common radionuclide in
> human tissues and in food. We evolved in the presence of potassium-40
> and our bodies have well-developed repair mechanisms to respond to its
> effects. The concentration of potassium-40 in the human body is
> constant and not affected by concentrations in the environment.

Moreover, bananas contain, among other healthy substances, melatonin
and TNF (check it out!) which may neutralize any negative effects of
the natural radioactivity. And non-radioactive potassium outcompetes
the K-40 isotope in the body quickly. I also drink the Jap. Itoen
brand green tea laden with Cs-134 "without fear".

Taka

http://kenwu.hubpages.com/hub/ripe-bananas-and-anti-cancer-substance

http://fukushima-diary.com/2013/03/23-bqkg-of-cs-134137-from-tea-powder-in-shizuoka/

> Unlike low-levels of radioactive potassium ...
>
> read more »

[John H. Gohde]

[Taka]

Never trust the Japanese with a gigantic facility like a proton
accelerator. Or a nuclear reactor. They are not only incapable of
operating them properly, but when an accident happens they don't tell
you.

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#Radioactive Materials Leak at Japan Proton Accelerator Research
Complex (J-PARC) in Ibaraki, Researchers Accidentally Inhaled
Radioactive Gold

Japan Atomic Energy Agency (JAEA), who operates J-PARC, didn't bother
to notify the Nuclear Regulatory Agency (secretariat of the Nuclear
Regulatory Authority, mostly made of people from NISA) for 2 days,
because they did not think there was any leak of radioactive
materials.

According to Asahi, the researchers suffer internal radiation of
exposure of 1.7 millisievert, and the contamination of the facility is
40 becquerels per square centimeter.

Apparently, the Ibaraki prefectural government was not too happy about
the incident and the fact that JAEA didn't bother to notify the
authority and the prefectural government, and held an angry press
conference at 2AM on May 25.

The official story of the accident, from Asahi Shinbun (5/25/2013,
1:37AM):

Radioactive materials leak at JAEA facility, 4 researchers suffer
internal radiation exposure

Japan Atomic Energy Agency disclosed on May 25 that there was a leak
of radioactive materials outside the nuclear and particle research
facility at J-PARC in Tokai-mura in Ibaraki Prefecture. At least 4
researchers inside the facility suffered internal radiation exposure.
The leak has stopped, and there is no danger of the leak spreading
further. The maximum radiation exposure was 1.7 millisievert,
according to JAEA. JAEA is currently investigating how much
radioactive materials have leaked outside the facility.

According to JAEA and the Nuclear Regulatory Authority, the leak took
place at 11:55AM on May 23. They were conducting an experiment of
generating elementary particles by hitting gold with proton beam. The
equipment malfunctioned, and the output of the proton beam increased
to 400 times the normal strength, and gold was vaporized. Radioactive
materials [radioactive gold vapor] leaked [from the equipment], and
were inhaled by the researchers. There were about 30 researchers when
the accident happened.

Contamination of the facility is about 40 becquerels per square
centimeter maximum. Currently the facility is off-limit. At the time
of the accident, JAEA didn't think there was a leak of radioactive
materials, and did not report to the government. J-PARC is a facility
to study elementary particles with large accelerators.

Equipment malfunctioned. That's the official story.

Let us now turn to "baseless rumors" among knowledgeable researchers
(like this one, from Professor Hayano of Tokyo University) for what
may really have happened. According to the unverified rumors, it was
not the equipment that malfunctioned. Researchers made a mistake, and
instead of hitting the target (gold) with low, continuous proton beam
over a long period of time they accidentally hit it with high-
intensity proton pulses.

According to NHK quoting the Ibaraki prefectural government, the
monitoring post outside the facility showed a slight increase in
radiation level between 3PM and 6PM on May 23. The radiation level is
normally between 70 to 130 nanogray/hour, but it rose by 10 nanogray/
hour on May 23.

(How do you get rid of radioactive gold in the body? Does anyone
know?)

SOURCE: http://ex-skf.blogspot.jp/2013/05/radioactive-materials-leak-at-japan.html

[John H. Gohde]

Total Bull Shit as usual

[Taka]

http://projectearth.com/fukushima-clearinghouse

[John H. Gohde]

On May 31, 1:43 am, Taka <taka0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://projectearth.com/fukushima-clearinghouse


Only a Mentally Unbalanced Obsessive Compulsive Quack
like Taka would spend several hours EVERY DAY endlessly
repeating his same worthless, mindless, pointless, useless
BULLSHIT that everyone ignores.

[Taka]

except you

[Taka]

Countdown to Nuclear Ruin at Paducah, Kentucky USA

Disaster is about to strike in western Kentucky, a full-blown nuclear
catastrophe involving hundreds of tons of enriched uranium tainted
with plutonium, technetium, arsenic, beryllium and a toxic chemical
brew. But this nuke calamity will be no fluke. It’s been foreseen,
planned, even programmed, the result of an atomic extortion game
played out between the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) and the most
failed American experiment in privatization, the company that has run
the Paducah plant into the poisoned ground, USEC Inc.

As now scheduled, main power to the gargantuan gaseous diffusion
uranium plant at Paducah, Kentucky, will be cut at midnight on May 31,
just nine days from now—cut because USEC has terminated its power
contract with TVA as of that time [“USEC Ceases Buying Power,” Paducah
Sun, April 19, page 1] and because DOE can’t pick up the bill.

DOE is five months away from the start of 2014 spending authority,
needed to fund clean power-down at Paducah. Meanwhile, USEC’s total
market capitalization has declined to about $45 million, not enough to
meet minimum listing requirements for the New York Stock Exchange, pay
off the company’s staggering debts or retain its operating licenses
under financial capacity requirements of the Nuclear Regulatory
Commission.

The Paducah plant cannot legally stay open, and it can’t safely be
shut down—a lovely metaphor for the end of the Atomic Age and a
perfect nightmare for the people of Kentucky.

MORE: http://ecowatch.com/2013/countdown-to-nuclear-ruin-at-paducah/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=l1BLMosusRI

[John H. Gohde]

Steal your own THREAD, Taka.

[Taka]

California Real Estate To Plummet Once Fukushima Radiation In USA Is
Broadcast

If you are living in the Western USA, or if you raising a family in
the Western USA, PAY ATTENTION ...

Here is a prediction with high likelihood ...

Once a famous person (Hollywood actor/actress, rockstar, etc. that
many people follow) speaks-out on how much Fukushima radiation is
really hitting America, then California, as well as other sections of
the West Coast, will see a major fall in real estate prices (and even
home abandonment because many won't be able to sell once the news is
out).

Almost third more US West Coast newborns may face thyroid problems
after Fukushima nuclear disaster:
http://rt.com/usa/fukushima-us-children-thyroid-291/

It sickens me that we have to receive more accurate news from Russia
compared to much of the Lamestream Media in America.

Study says fallout from nuclear disaster in Fukushima, Japan may be
harming local infants:
http://www.10news.com/news/study-says-fallout-from-nuclear-disaster-in-fukushima-japan-may-be-harming-local-infants-04042013

That was ABC News, but the story was never repeated.

See also: www.enenews.com

The government is putting a tight lid on what is REALLY going on with
respect to the Fukushima radiation. They do not want you knowing what
is truly going on.

And with INCREASING TECTONIC MOVEMENTS IN THE WESTERN PACIFIC, there
is a moderately high risk for the Fukushima situation, which has NOT
stopped pumping-up radiation every day since 3/11/11 in both sea and
air, to become even more unstable.

In addition, too much of the organic food produce in CA is getting
radiation on it. Check ingredients / labeling / place of origin on
your produce!!

Would help explain people in Hollywood bailing out of their mansions.

THE STORY IS WORST IF YOU ARE IN HAWAII! THE RADIOACTIVE WATERS ARE
ALMOST THERE!
When you know the truth of the News, when you are able to read between
the lines, you can see the future. Get out of Hawaii, Guam, and all
western coastal states if you value your health. You might have a two
year window if you are on the West Coast. You only have a year if you
are in Hawaii.

The Japan Times just admitted that 10 major points all over the North
Pacific have been contaminated severely with radioactive isotopes.

It's in fact CRIMINAL that the governments are literally just doing so
little, if any, to cap and fix this diabolically huge problem.

IF governments wanted to stop this catastrophe, and IF they can print
money that there's no tomorrow, SURELY this Fukushima disaster ought
to be one of the top problems to have solved ASAP, by putting together
resources, the best minds in the world, and ending the disastrous
contamination.

The Fukushima peril is one of the largest threats to humanity, and I
would not be surprised that medical doctors spouting the truth will
soon come out to say that in certain areas of the world, INCLUDING
JAPAN, the longevity of its people is DECLINING.

MORE AT: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2244600/pg1

[Taka]

Almost third more US West Coast newborns may face thyroid problems
after Fukushima nuclear disaster

Researchers have discovered that the Fukushima nuclear disaster has
had far-reaching health effects more drastic than previously thought:
young children born on the US West Coast are 28 percent more likely to
develop congenital hyperthyroidism.

In examining post-Fukushima conditions along the West Coast,
researchers found American-born children to be developing similar
conditions that some Europeans acquired after the 1986 meltdown of the
Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant.

“Fukushima fallout appeared to affect all areas of the US, and was
especially large in some, mostly in the western part of the nation,”
researchers from the New York-based Radiation and Health Project wrote
in a study published by the Open Journal of Pediatrics.

Children born after the 2011 meltdown of Japan’s Fukushima Nuclear
Power Plant are at high risk of acquiring congenital hyperthyroidism
if they were in the line of fire for radioactive isotopes. Researchers
studied concentration levels of radioiodine isotopes (I-131) and
congenital hypothyroid cases to make the association.

Just a few days after the meltdown, I-131 concentration levels in
California, Hawaii, Alaska, Oregon and Washington were up to 211 times
above the normal level, according to the study. At the same time, the
number of congenital hypothyroid cases skyrocketed, increasing by an
average of 16 percent from March 17 to Dec. 31, 2011. And between
March 17 and June 30, shortly after the meltdown, newly born children
experienced a 28 percent greater risk of acquiring hyperthyroidism.

In 36 other US states outside of the exposure zone, the risk of
congenital hyperthyroidism decreased by 3 percent – a finding that
researchers believe may serve as further proof that Fukushima had
something to do with the unusually high results found on the West
Coast.

The disease is usually rare, but can manifest into a serious condition
if left untreated. Affected fetuses and children may suffer serious
developmental delay – and a recent report found that 44.2 percent of
94,975 sampled Fukushima children have had thyroid ultrasound
abnormalities as a likely result of their exposure to the radiation.

Americans often doubted that radiation from the meltdown would affect
the US West Coast, but the latest research sheds light on alarming
scientific data that indicates otherwise. Radioactive iodine that
enters the human body typically gathers in the thyroid, which release
growth hormones. Radiation exposure can therefore stunt the growth of
a child’s body and brain. Exposure can have long-lasting effects,
which scientists have studied in those who were near the Chernobyl
nuclear power plant during its 1986 meltdown. Decades after the
accident, a 2011 study by the National Institutes of Health found that
higher absorption of I-131 radiation led to an increased risk for
thyroid cancer among victims of Chernobyl radiation – a risk that has
not diminished over time.

The children who were unfortunate enough to be exposed to Fukushima
radiation on the US West Coast, Alaska or Hawaii could face similar
risks of congenital hypothyroidism or thyroid cancer throughout their
lives, although the Radiation and Health Project Researchers said they
are still investigating further to see what other factors might be
involved in their findings before drawing any solid conclusions about
the effects of Fukushima.

SOURCE: http://rt.com/usa/fukushima-us-children-thyroid-291/


OJPed Vol.3 No.1, March 2013

Elevated airborne beta levels in Pacific/West Coast US States and
trends in hypothyroidism among newborns after the Fukushima nuclear
meltdown

Joseph J. Mangano, Janette D. Sherman

Various reports indicate that the incidence of congenital
hypothyroidism is increasing in developed nations, and that improved
detection and more inclusive criteria for the disease do not explain
this trend entirely. One risk factor documented in numerous studies is
exposure to radioactive iodine found in nuclear weapons test fallout
and nuclear reactor emissions. Large amounts of fallout disseminated
worldwide from the meltdowns in four reactors at the Fukushima-Dai-
ichi plant in Japan beginning March 11, 2011 included radioiodine
isotopes. Just days after the meltdowns, I-131 concentrations in US
precipitation was measured up to 211 times above normal. Highest
levels of I-131 and airborne gross beta were documented in the five US
States on the Pacific Ocean. The number of congenital hypothyroid
cases in these five states from March 17-December 31, 2011 was 16%
greater than for the same period in 2010, compared to a 3% decline in
36 other US States (p < 0.03). The greatest divergence in these two
groups (+28%) occurred in the period March 17-June 30 (p < 0.04).
Further analysis, in the US and in other nations, is needed to better
understand any association between iodine exposure from Fukushima-Dai-
ichi and congenital hypothyroidism risk.
DOI: 10.4236/ojped.2013.31001

http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInformation.aspx?PaperID=28599
(PDF)

[Taka]

Two years later, the nuclear disaster in Fukushima, Japan may be
affecting the health of young children in San Diego.

"We should take this very seriously," said Joseph Mangano, the
executive director of the New York-based Radiation and Public Health
Project, which researches the impact of nuclear power.

The group obtained results of eight air samples conducted by the EPA
in San Diego in the month and a half after the nuclear disaster began.

It found that beta radiation levels in San Diego were more than six
times the normal amount. While those are still low levels, the group
says its numbers show the radiation may have harmed children.

The research group looked at those most vulnerable – infants – along
with a gland susceptible to radiation, the thyroid.

In a study of states in the West Coast and in the Pacific, infants
born soon after the nuclear disaster were 28 percent more likely to
develop congenital hypothyroidism, which can lead to stunted growth.

In California, that number jumped to 39 percent.

Critics say there is still no direct evidence those radiation levels
can harm humans.

"It's not like every newborn developed a terrible disease," said
Mangano. "The effects are more subtle than that."

But Mangano says there should be concern because if the radiation is
impacting the young, the true impact may not be known for years, even
decades.

Mangano said he plans more studies in the next year looking at the
fallout and any links to infants' deaths and birth defects.

SOURCE: http://www.10news.com/news/study-says-fallout-from-nuclear-disaster-in-fukushima-japan-may-be-harming-local-infants-04042013

[John H. Gohde]

[Taka]

California Fish Contaminated with Fukushima Radiation
May 31, 2013

We noted more than a year ago:

The ocean currents head from Japan to the West Coast of the U.S.

***

Of course, fish don’t necessarily stay still, either. For example, the
Telegraph notes that scientists tagged a bluefin tuna and found that
it crossed between Japan and the West Coast three times in 600 days:

That might be extreme, but the point is that fish exposed to radiation
somewhere out in the ocean might end up in U.S. waters.

And see this.

CNN reports today:

Low levels of radioactive cesium from Japan’s Fukushima Daiichi
nuclear accident turned up in fish caught off California in 2011,
researchers reported Monday.

The bluefin spawn off Japan, and many migrate across the Pacific
Ocean. Tissue samples taken from 15 bluefin caught in August, five
months after the meltdowns at Fukushima Daiichi, all contained reactor
byproducts cesium-134 and cesium-137 at levels that produced radiation
about 3% higher than natural background sources

The Wall Street Journal quotes the studies’ authors:

“The tuna packaged it up and brought it across the world’s largest
ocean,” said marine ecologist Daniel Madigan at Stanford University,
who led the study team. “We were definitely surprised to see it at all
and even more surprised to see it in every one we measured.”

***

“We found that absolutely every one of them had comparable
concentrations of cesium-134 and cesium-137,” said marine biologist
Nicholas Fisher at Stony Brook University in New York state, who was
part of the study group.

The bad news is that it is only going to get worse.

As Reuters points out:

Unlike some other compounds, radioactive cesium does not quickly sink
to the sea bottom but remains dispersed in the water column, from the
surface to the ocean floor.

Fish can swim right through it, ingesting it through their gills, by
taking in seawater or by eating organisms that have already taken it
in ….

As CNN notes:

Neither [of the scientists who tested the fish] thought they were
likely to find cesium at all, they said. And since the fish tested
were born about a year before the disaster, “This year’s fish are
going to be really interesting,” Madigan said.

“There were fish born around the time of the accident, and those are
the ones showing up in California right now,” he said. “Those have
been, for the most part, swimming around in those contaminated waters
their whole lives.”

In other words, the 15 fish tested were only exposed to radiation for
a short time. But bluefin arriving in California now will have been
exposed to the Fukushima radiation for much longer.

As KGTV San Diego explains:

The real test of how radioactivity affects tuna populations comes this
summer when researchers planned to repeat the study with a larger
number of samples. Bluefin tuna that journeyed last year were exposed
to radiation for about a month. The upcoming travelers have been
swimming in radioactive waters for a longer period. How this will
affect concentrations of contamination remains to be seen.

One of the studies’ authors told the BBC:

The fish that will be arriving around now, and in the coming months,
to California waters may be carrying considerably more radioactivity
and if so they may possibly be a public health hazard.

Japanese and U.S. officials – of course – are pretending that the
amount of radiation found in the bluefin is safe. But the overwhelming
scientific consensus is that there is no safe level of radiation … and
radiation consumed and taken into the body is much more dangerous than
background radiation.

SOURCE: http://www.blacklistednews.com/California_Fish_Contaminated_with_Fukushima_Radiation/26350/0/0/0/Y/M.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsTAZpk6-AA

[John H. Gohde]

[Taka]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WYElqKQBnU

[John H. Gohde]

[Taka]

This undetectable alpha-emitter was used to kill Litvinenko ... Now
coming to you in tuna as a "present" from Fukushima:

"Japan's Kyodo News says exposure from radioactive polonium in fish is
much greater than radioactive cesium of Fukushima origin."

MORE: http://ex-skf.blogspot.jp/2013/06/radiation-exposure-from-eating-pacific.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko

[Taka]

0.22 Bq/liter of cesium-134, and 0.39 Bq/liter of cesium-137 to be
released into the ocean (not measuring the alpha emitters such as
Polonium though ...):

http://ex-skf.blogspot.jp/2013/06/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-tepco-admits.html

[Taka]

Fukushima survey lists 12 confirmed, 15 suspected thyroid cancer cases

An ongoing study on the impact of radiation on Fukushima residents
from the crippled atomic power plant has found 12 minors with
confirmed thyroid cancer diagnoses, up from three in a report in
February, with 15 others suspected to have cancer, up from seven,
sources familiar with the matter said Tuesday.

The figures were taken from about 174,000 people aged 18 or younger
whose initial thyroid screening results have been confirmed so far.

Researchers at Fukushima Medical University, which has been taking the
leading role in the study, have so far said they do not believe that
the most recent cases are related to the nuclear crisis. They point
out that thyroid cancer cases were not found among children hit by the
1986 Chernobyl nuclear accident until four to five years later.

SOURCE: http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2013/06/228639.html

------------------------

Note in contrast to fish eating Japs the Chernobyl kids were low in
Omega-3 PUFAs which promote cancer faster than Omega-6 in Russian
foods:

"Some data also suggests that fish oils may promote cancer metastases
more potently than safflower oil:

Rats were kept on either a low-fat diet or on a fish oil (omega-3
PUFAs) or safflower oil (omega-6 PUFAs) diet for 3 weeks before the
administration of colon cancer cells to the portal vein, until they
were sacrificed at 1 or 3 weeks after tumor transplantation. At 1 week
after transplantation, the fish oil diet had induced 7-fold more
metastases (in terms of number and size) than had the low-fat diet,
whereas the safflower oil diet had not affected the number and total
volume of metastases. At 3 weeks after tumor transplantation, the fish
oil diet and the safflower oil diet had induced, respectively, 10- and
4-fold more metastases (number) and over 1000- and 500-fold more
metastases (size) than were found in the livers of rats on the low-fat
diet.

PUFAs are incorporated into the membranes of both cancer cells and
normal cells, altering their physical and functional properties (30,
39), which may interfere seriously with immunological surveillance
against cancer cells. Furthermore, n-3 PUFA supplementation decreases
cytokine production (40) and MHC class II expression on the cell
surface of antigen-presenting macrophages (41, 42), thus interfering
with the immune response"

SOURCE: http://donmatesz.blogspot.jp/2012/03/arachidonic-acid-and-breast-prostate.html

[John H. Gohde]

[Taka]

http://www.radiation.org/

RPHP releases first journal article on deaths after the Fukushima
meltdowns

Click here to read the article in the December 2011 International
Journal of Health Services by Joseph Mangano and Janette Sherman (the
28th published by RPHP), on the increase in reported U.S. deaths after
arrival of fallout from the nuclear meltdowns in Fukushima, Japan

Click here to view the updated analysis by RPHP, suggesting that
excess U.S. deaths after Fukushima may have been 22,000, not 14,000

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/medical-journal-article--14000-us-deaths-tied-to-fukushima-reactor-disaster-fallout-135859288.html

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2013/06/08/holy-fukushima-radiation-from-japan-is-already-killing-north-americans

[John H. Gohde]

Steal your own THREAD, Taka!

[Herman Rubin]

The radioactive isotope providing the most radioactivity is
Potassium 40. Other natural radioactives are Carbon 14,
natural Uranium, Thorium, Radon, and others. Potassium is
needed by all life of any complexity, and separating isotopes
is VERY difficult and expensive.

Except for a few localities, natural radioactivity is greater
than that due to man's nuclear activities.

--
This address is for information only. I do not claim that these views
are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.
Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
hru...@stat.purdue.edu Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558

[Bob Officer]

On Sat, 8 Jun 2013 09:59:38 -0700 (PDT), in misc.health.alternative,
Taka <taka...@gmail.com> wrote:

>http://www.radiation.org/
>
>RPHP

you do understand the RPHP was founded, controlled and operated by
the United Church of Christ, a group of Luddites?


--
Bob Officer
"Whoops .... now where did I put that other braincell?
It make it very hard to work things out.

Oh, I'll check up my arse ...get back to ya."
carole hubbard in Message-ID: <f3b680d9-da69-4c7e...@y5g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>

[Taka]

On Jun 9, 4:28 am, Herman Rubin <hru...@skew.stat.purdue.edu> wrote:

> On 2013-06-05, John H. Gohde <john.h.go...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> 100% of Europe is radioactive, from the atomic bombs that were dropped
> >> on Japan during World War II.
> >> I have pointed out this little detail to Taka a long time ago.
> >> Unfortunately, Taka is a slow learner.  :(
> >> In fact, 100% of the planet Earth is radioactive, from the atomic
> >> bombs that were dropped on Japan during World War II.
> >> Maybe Taka needs a brain transplant?
> >  Steal your own THREAD, Taka.

Toothless, retired, bored man with Narcissistic personality disorder
who cannot get laid trying to hijack moi thread. He fails as
usual ...

The radioactivity left by WWII is negligible even in Japan compared to
the natural background AND K40 bananas. Earth was far more
contaminated by the atmospheric nuclear test era which is responsible
for many lung cancers. But that is still less than the contamination
of 40% of Europe from the Chernobyl blast in 1986 which lasts to the
present days. For details see my original post in this thread going
way back in sci.life-extension NG ... The contamination of Europe has
been documented recently with the radioactive Porcini mushrooms from
Italy or the hot boars and gamekeepers from Germany. Sweden is even
worst. The consequences of the ongoing Fukushima meltdowns including
the #3 MOX core ejection are going to be even worst given the huge
amount of radioactive elements released into the ocean and people
living in contaminated areas and eating contaminated food in Japan.
This is a serious issue affecting our longevity and perhaps even whole
mankind existence therefore I'm posting ....

> The radioactive isotope providing the most radioactivity is
> Potassium 40.  Other natural radioactives are Carbon 14,
> natural Uranium, Thorium, Radon, and others.  Potassium is
> needed by all life of any complexity, and separating isotopes
> is VERY difficult and expensive.
>
> Except for a few localities, natural radioactivity is greater
> than that due to man's nuclear activities.
>
> --
> This address is for information only.  I do not claim that these views
> are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.
> Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
> hru...@stat.purdue.edu         Phone: (765)494-6054   FAX: (765)494-0558

Nuclear Energy Apologists Are Going Bananas - see my recent post from
May ...

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/04/fake-science-alert-fukushima-radiation-cant-be-compared-to-bananas-or-x-rays.html

Long haul flights are also "natural" exposure resulting in increased
ovarian cancer among female flight attendants and cataracts in male
pilots ...

Taka

[Taka]

Fast Breeder Reactor Monju's Coolant Heating System Accidentally
Switched Off for 30 Minutes, No Effect on the Environment, Says JAEA

JAEA again, this time on the fast breeder reactor Monju that this
agency "operates" (if it can be called "operating").

Coolant for Monju, sodium, is supposed to be kept at 200 degrees
Celsius.

So what's the excuse this time?

Their manual was not well written!

Do you trust these people to run a nuclear reactor, not to mention
fast breeder reactor that uses liquid metal that explodes on contact
with water and ignites on contact with air?

Do you trust these people to export nuclear reactors all over the
world, claiming the superior technology and know-hows, including know-
hows from "lessons learned from the Fukushima I Nuke Plant accident"?

Good luck, Czech Republic. Good luck, India, Vietnam, and Turkey.

From Kyodo News (6/8/2013):

Monju's heater stopped, sodium wasn't kept warm enough temporarily

Japan Atomic Energy Agency (JAEA) announced on June 7 that at Fast
Breeder Reactor Monju (Tsuruga City, Fukui Prefecture) the heater to
keep the secondary coolant, sodium, warm was switched off accidentally
for about 30 minutes during the inspection of electric systems on June
2. The cause is attributed to human error due to poor instructions in
the manual.

In certain part of the pipe, the temperature dropped 40 degrees
Celsius from the normal 200 degrees Celsius, but there was no effect
on the environment or the reactor, according to JAEA. Melting point of
sodium is about 98 degrees Celsius.

JAEA reported to the Nuclear Regulatory Agency, Fukui Prefecture and
Tsuruga City on June 3. The reason for the delay in reporting was,
according to JAEA, because "it was the very minor incident that didn't
require reporting, according to our internal [i.e. unofficial] rules".

So they blame the manual for the incident, but abide by the other,
unofficial manual and decide they don't need to report it.

If they didn't notice the heater was off for another hour, they would
have been in a big trouble (assuming the temperature drop is linear).

The footage of 1995 sodium leak accident is still there on the net,
despite TV Asahi's copyright claim.

The Nuclear Regulatory Authority has already ordered JAEA to stop all
the work for preparation for the restart, as 10,000 parts and
equipments weren't maintained according to the schedule.

Again, good luck Czech Republic, India, Vietnam, Turkey. And many
others, no doubt, now that Japan's Prime Minister Abe and President
Francois Hollande of France have formed a formidable team to sell
nuclear plants all over the world...

SOURCE: http://ex-skf.blogspot.jp/2013/06/fast-breeder-reactor-monjus-coolant.html

-------------------

The worst of worst technologies on this planet - the breeder's coolant
must be heated up to be able to cool. Anyone saw what sodium does
when exposed to water or air? Now these cretins keep hot plutonium
rods in it by the tons! Let the Japs handle this and you got perfect
prescription for disaster of unimaginable dimensions ...

Taka

[Taka]

Nuclear Japan: Toshiba/Westinghouse to Sell AP1000 Nuclear Reactors to
Czech Republic

Thanks to the top sell by Shinzo Abe, who must be visiting his loo
every 10 minutes during the market hours in Tokyo.

From Nikkei Shinbun (6/8/2013; part):

Toshiba subsidiary Westinghouse to supply nuclear reactors to Czech
Republic, first after the Fukushima accident

Westinghouse in the US, one of the largest companies in nuclear
business and subsidiary of Toshiba, is set to receive orders for the
nuclear power plant project in Czech Republic. Prime Minister Shinzo
Abe and Czech President Miloš Zeman will exchange a memorandum of
understanding of mutual assistance in nuclear technology during the
summit meeting on June 16. The total project cost is projected to be
10 billion dollars (about 1 trillion yen). Japan's nuclear export,
which was interrupted by the March 11, 2011 disaster, is set to
accelerate.

Toshiba/Westinghouse is to supply two additional reactors to the
existing two at Temelin Nuclear Power Station in South Bohemia in
Czech Republic. Their AP1000, received the highest ranking among
competing bidders in March this year.

SOURCE: http://ex-skf.blogspot.jp/2013/06/nuclear-japan-toshibawestinghouse-to.html

In April 2010, Arnold Gundersen, a nuclear engineer commissioned by
several anti-nuclear groups, released a report which explored a hazard
associated with the possible rusting through of the containment
structure steel liner. In the AP1000 design, the liner and the
concrete are separated, and if the steel rusts through, "there is no
backup containment behind it" according to Gundersen.[18] If the dome
rusted through the design would expel radioactive contaminants and the
plant "could deliver a dose of radiation to the public that is 10
times higher than the N.R.C. limit" according to Gundersen. Vaughn
Gilbert, a spokesman for Westinghouse, has disputed Gundersen’s
assessment, stating that the AP1000's steel containment vessel is
three-and-a-half to five times thicker than the liners used in current
designs, and that corrosion would be readily apparent during routine
inspection.

MORE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AP1000

--------------------------

They are building these in the hearth of Europe still contaminated
from the Chernobyl blast. No Tsunami or Earthquakes there for now but
flooding and human errors could be issues there, certainly over an
extended period of time ...

Taka

[John H. Gohde]

[On or Close to Topic]

So you are repeating yourself there Johnny? What fails? At least rotate in another nasty remark.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/phallus
Does definition three fit you?

here to help...............Trig

[John H. Gohde]

On Jun 9, 12:46 am, On or Close to Topic <trigonometry1...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I am NOT going to let Taka change the subject of this THREAD.