On Dec 30, 3:07 am, "Arnaud F." <
fournet.arn...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> Le samedi 29 décembre 2012 16:46:18 UTC+1, Peter T. Daniels a écrit :
> > On Dec 29, 1:50 am, "Arnaud F." <
fournet.arn...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> > > Le samedi 29 décembre 2012 05:17:13 UTC+1, Peter T. Daniels a écrit :
> > > > On Dec 28, 4:23 pm, "Arnaud F." <
fournet.arn...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> > > > > Le vendredi 28 décembre 2012 21:43:40 UTC+1, Peter T. Daniels a écrit :
>
> > > > > > The earliest surviving Arabic treatise on grammar (Sibawayhi'sKitab,
> > > > > > 8th c. CE) contains detailed feature specifications of each sound.
> > > > > > Unfortunately we can't tell what he meant in several cases.
>
> > > > > Like which ones, fraud?
>
> > I don't have the time to get up and go get any of half a dozen books
> > on the topic that are in the other room.
>
> Chickenry.
What does that mean?
> > > > So the Arab grammarians are another topic you know nothing about.
>
> > > There's hardly any ambiguity about whatSibawayhidescribed.
>
> > Once again, you make asinine pronouncements about something you know
> > nothing of.
>
> You're bluffing as usual, fraud.
>
> Anytime you make a verifiable statement everybody can see you're a fraud.
Ok, smartaleck. Tell us what each of these feature rows means.
[each row folded to fit in the space available]
' h ` H G x q k D j sh y l r n
T d t S Z s DH dh th f b m w aa ii uu
______________________________________________________________________
SaHiiH + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + - - -
______________________________________________________________________
madd & liin - - - - - - - - - - - + - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - - + + + +
______________________________________________________________________
majhuur + - + - + - + - + + - - + - -
+ + - - + - + + - - + + + + + +
______________________________________________________________________
mahmuus - + - + - + - + - - + - - - -
- - + - - + - - - + - - - - - -
______________________________________________________________________
' h ` H G x q k D j sh y l r n
T d t S Z s DH dh th f b m w
______________________________________________________________________
shadiid + - + - - - + + - + - + + +
+ + + - - - - - - - + +
______________________________________________________________________
rixw - + + + + + - - + - + - - -
- - - + + + + + + + - -
______________________________________________________________________
muTbaq - - - - - - - - + - - - - - -
+ - - + - - + - - - - - -
______________________________________________________________________
munfatiH + + + + + + + + - + + + + + +
- + + - + + - + + + + + +
______________________________________________________________________
musta`li - - - - + + + - + - - - - - -
+ - - + - - + - - - - - +
______________________________________________________________________
munxafiD + + + + - - - + - + + + + + +
- + + - + + - + + + + + -
______________________________________________________________________
(Table from A. A. Al-Nassir, Sibawayh the Phonologist (1993), p.55)
The last two pairs, obviously, are redundant.