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Iain

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Dec 18, 2009, 1:30:15 PM12/18/09
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Don't they usually end in either a shwa or the vowel in 'hut'? Here
they end in the vowel in 'cat'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCzU9cR6BgM&feature=fvhl

--Iain

benl...@ihug.co.nz

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Dec 18, 2009, 3:10:18 PM12/18/09
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"This video contains content from Channel 5, who has decided to block
it in your country."

Sorry, you'll have to describe it.
Who's talking, to whom, about what?

Ross Clark

Peter T. Daniels

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Dec 18, 2009, 3:30:15 PM12/18/09
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In the last few days, BBC folk have pronounced the captials of
Bangladesh and Senegal identically.

Yusuf B Gursey

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Dec 18, 2009, 4:20:49 PM12/18/09
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that's Dhaka and Dakar respectively. guess they are non-rhotic.

John Atkinson

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Dec 18, 2009, 11:20:22 PM12/18/09
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Yusuf B Gursey wrote:
> On Dec 18, 3:30 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Dec 18, 3:10 pm, "benli...@ihug.co.nz" <benli...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>>> On Dec 19, 7:30 am, Iain <iain_inks...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don't they usually end in either a shwa or the vowel in 'hut'? Here
>>>> they end in the vowel in 'cat'
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCzU9cR6BgM&feature=fvhl
>>>> --Iain
[...]
>
>> In the last few days, BBC folk have pronounced the capitals of

>> Bangladesh and Senegal identically.
>
> that's Dhaka and Dakar respectively. guess they are non-rhotic.
>
Of course they are. But I would expect them to be phonemically
different in BBC English -- i.e., /d&k@/ and /d&ka(:)/ respectively.

I assume from what you say that both the ones you heard came across as
[d&k@], Peter; is that so?

John.

Peter T. Daniels

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Dec 18, 2009, 11:23:15 PM12/18/09
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Unfortunately, no. [d@'ka:]

Which seems approximately correct for Dakar, but not for Dacca.

Iain

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Dec 19, 2009, 5:06:11 AM12/19/09
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Charlotte Uhlenbroek, to British audiences, about the former habitats
of orangutans.

-Iain

benl...@ihug.co.nz

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Dec 19, 2009, 6:09:25 AM12/19/09
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Hm. Dutch father, English mother: "Uhlenbroek was born in London, but
her parents moved to Ghana when she was only ten days old. Between the
ages of 5-14 she lived in Kathmandu, Nepal." - Wiki.

Might account for strange pronunciation.

Ross Clark

benl...@ihug.co.nz

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Dec 19, 2009, 6:13:38 AM12/19/09
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The latest Jones (17th ed, 2007, now called "Cambridge Pronouncing
Dictionary...") supports you on this. Even with the variants allowed,
no overlap in pronunciation.

Ross Clark

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