Franz Gnaedinger
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goodbye
One more Magdalenian thread comes to a premature end.
But I am happy with my thread rich in content, beginning
with my fable of the first Indo-European homeland on the
banks of the Amu Darja, the core of which having been
the triangle of Termez and Kunduz and Kurgan T'upe.
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> Italian si (one more postscript)
>
> Italian si meaning yes derives from Latin sic
> 'so, it is so' which in turn derives from *sei-ce
> wherein I recognize Magdalenian SAI for life,
> existence.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > yes (postscript)
>
> > In Magdalenian I reconstructed SAI SAI for yes,
> > be it, be it, an emphatic doubling. Rumantg has
> > hai for yes - either from SAI or from AY ?
>
> > SAI hAI AY hAY hAi ??
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > yes and no
>
> > > Old English had gese for yes, gea se, gea perhaps
> > > from YA, inverse of AY for the left eye
>
> > > YA gYA geA
>
> > > while se derives from beon 'to be' and keeps
> > > a memory of SAI for life, existence, German Sein,
> > > as verb sein 'to be', Italian sei 'you are'.
>
> > > Greek has nai for yes, perhaps from AY for the left
> > > eye with a nasal prefix
>
> > > AY nAY nAi
>
> > > Swiss nei means no. In this case, the initial n
> > > may be short for NEG that names the three days
> > > of the old and dying moon (inverse of GEN for
> > > the three days of the young moon or moon bull)
>
> > > NEG AY N AY N eY Nei
>
> > > The same compound explains Old English na for no,
> > > from ne a or even ne AY (Webster's Unabridged)
>
> > > NEG AY NE AY N AY NA
>
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > > French quoi and English why
> > > > interrogative pronouns in PIE, IE, and Altaic
>
> > > > Magdalenian OC names the right eye, Latin oculus
> > > > Old English ege eage Middle English eie New
> > > > English eye German Auge Italian occhio Spanish
> > > > ojo French oeil. AY for the left eye may have eased
> > > > the transition from ege to eie and eye. A firm look
> > > > into ones eyes was an early way of saying yes
> > > > (and still is among lovers). Occitanian has oc 'yes'
> > > > from OC for the right eye. Parisian oeuil 'eye' and
> > > > oui 'yes' are close. German Ja and American Yeah
> > > > may derive from YA, inverse of AY for the left eye.
> > > > OC AY is present in Scottish Och, aye, which arrived
> > > > in America with Scottish immigrants and deportees
> > > > and became the famous okay abbreviated ok. The
> > > > humming Mm marked presence and is preserved
> > > > in French moi English me (and in the initial m-
> > > > of the possessive pronouns of many languages,
> > > > for example French mon ma mes mien English
> > > > my mine) while French je is close to jeux 'eyes'
> > > > and English I to eye. The inverse of OC for the
> > > > right eye is CO for a focused mind. OC CO is
> > > > present in Latin ego German Ich, perhaps also
> > > > in French je and English I. CO OC is preserved
> > > > in German gucken 'to look, peep, stare', dialectal
> > > > imperative kuck! (CO OC LOP named the ruler
> > > > of the attentive mind CO surrounded by the
> > > > watchful guards of the open eyes OC along the
> > > > enveloping wall LOP of a fortified settlement POL,
> > > > accounting for Cyclops and cyclopic wall, the most
> > > > famous cyclops having been Polyphem, Homeric
> > > > symbol of Troy; CO OC LOP also accounts for
> > > > *kwekwlos 'wheel' by analogy of a round early town
> > > > and a wheel.) CO AY may be present in French quoi
> > > > 'what' and English why, Old English hwi hwy
>
> > > > CO AY kw AY hw AY hw Y whY
>
> > > > CO AY as early universal question may have been
> > > > accompanied by a fingertip placed next to the left eye,
> > > > a look to the left side in upward direction, or a raising
> > > > of the left eyebrow. CO AY explains the initial *kw plus
> > > > vowel of the eleven interrogative pronouns in Proto-
> > > > Indo-European mentioned by Mallory and Adams 2006,
> > > > and the words for which in a host of Altaic languages,
> > > > Old Turkic qaju Karakhanid qaju Tatar qaj Uzbek qaj
> > > > Uighur qaj Turkmen Oyrat qaj Yakut xaja Dolgan kaja
> > > > Tuva qajɨ Tofalar qai Kirghiz qaj Kazakh qaj Bashkir
> > > > qaj (dialectal).
>
> > > > CO AY q AY q Aj
>
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>
> > > > > rippling the fabric of space-time (SETI.2)
>
> > > > > How can we hope to one day not only receive but
> > > > > also understand messages from an extra-terrestrian
> > > > > civilization if we don't even understand the messages
> > > > > left to us by our ancient forebears?
>
> > > > > Enrico Fermi asked why we don't receive any signals
> > > > > if we are surrounded by intelligent life and advanced
> > > > > civilizations? The reason might be that electromagnetic
> > > > > waves traveling by the speed of light are not the right
> > > > > medium of an interstellar communication. Only the
> > > > > expansion of space itself is faster than light, even
> > > > > much faster, as during the initial phase of inflation.
> > > > > Perhaps we can reach another civilization in our region
> > > > > of the Milky Way by rippling space-time? and achieve
> > > > > this by making vibrate one of the tiny enrolled extra-
> > > > > dimensions proposed by string theory and M-theory?
> > > > > If this were the case, we had a long way to go, fifty
> > > > > years, five hundred years, or even more.
>
> > > > > Let us use this unknown time span by making
> > > > > our planet a better place, with a reasonable global
> > > > > government on a democratic basis and a religion
> > > > > that allows all forms, from the belief in El or Elohim
> > > > > or the Lord or Allah or logos or the goddess from
> > > > > the Göbekli Tepe who had the say ) or )OG ...
> > > > > And I also hope for a better Usenet, for a free
> > > > > global online university, where you can publish
> > > > > and develop ideas without being molested.
>
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