Powerpoint character count - help, please
Anna Pinniger
working on a text in ppt for a German agency who pay per line/55
characters, but how on earth do you do a character count in ppt? Any
ideas??
TIA,
Anna
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Ramón Soto
I've encountered the same situation before and, for lack of a better
solution, here's what I came up with:
-View your file in "Notes Master" or "Notes" view, depending on the
PowerPoint version you have.
-Highlight and copy one text field or notes page at a time.
-Open a new MS Word (or other word processor) document and paste that
text into it.
-Repeat for each text field or page, one by one, until you're done.
-Do a word count in your new MS Word doc.
It would be better if you found a way to save your presentation as a
Text Only file and then perform the word count in MS Word, but I don't
know if there is any way to do that in PowerPoint.
Regards,
Ramón
Mary Richards
"Anna Pinniger" <an...@pinniger1.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Hi Anna,
I've pondered this one many a time and never really come up with a
satisfactory answer! And if its a big file with lots of fiddly little texts,
cutting and pasting it all into Word can be a bit of a git. I've managed to
come up with a couple of ways around it but neither is particularly
satisfactory )-:
The only things I can suggest are as follows. 1) Count up the characters in
a fraction of the text and multiply it accordingly. 2) (This is the way I do
it - I told the agency and they didn't seem to have a problem with it!) Find
a similar text in Word or anything else (or a couple if you can) - work out
the rough ratio between the words and the characters, i.e. one Normzeile = 6
words, and use the word count to work out the rough character count! (Hope
that makes sense). 3) I guess another option would be to ask the agency if
you can charge on a per-word basis for PPT docs, but that may mess up their
sysstem.
HTH (a little!)
Mary
Duncan R. Bell
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> Hello - can anybody help with a Powerpoint query? I've just finished
> working on a text in ppt for a German agency who pay per line/55
> characters, but how on earth do you do a character count in ppt? Any
> ideas??
>
> TIA,
> Anna
> --
> Anna Pinniger
Have you tried the Save As Outline/RTF option in PowerPoint? I haven't but
it sounds worth a go.
Last time I had to charge for a PowerPoint job (80 pages), the agency and I
counted the words on 2 (different) sets of ten pages, took the average,
multiplied it by 80, and worked out a fixed price based on that. They passed
the cost on to the client (plus their markup, which I know was 20%), and
everyone was happy. I had done a lot of work for that agency, and we were
all confident that we weren't getting ripped off!
Hope that helps!
Duncan R. Bell
J.A.
<ling...@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
working with Dejavu, I just import (with the options ungroup shapes)
and do a normal Wordcount in Dejavu.
Judy Ann
>
>
Mary Cassidy
>
> Have you tried the Save As Outline/RTF option in PowerPoint? I haven't but
> it sounds worth a go.
No, I've tried it - all it saves is the titles, not the body text.
>
> Last time I had to charge for a PowerPoint job (80 pages), the agency and I
> counted the words on 2 (different) sets of ten pages, took the average,
> multiplied it by 80, and worked out a fixed price based on that.
No need for that; Power Point does an automatic word count (File -
Properties - Statistics), although I don't know how accurate it is.
The problem is that it won't do a character count for those of us who
charge by the line or character. Working into English, I divide the word
count by 220 to get the number of pages of approx. 1500 characters. I've
checked it by counting by hand, and it seems about right.
I've tried copying to Word from the Slide Sorter or Notes Page views,
but it copies the slide as an object which isn't countable. You can copy
the pages separately (Select All, cut and paste), but if there are a lot
of text boxes on each page, how do you convert the text conveniently
into a form countable by Word? There must be a simple search & replace
technique, but I haven't found it yet.
Mary
grieve
"Mary Cassidy" <cas...@gvo.it> wrote in message
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> No need for that; Power Point does an automatic word count (File -
> Properties - Statistics), although I don't know how accurate it is.
> Mary
Thank you Mary; you have just made one translator's life a lot easier!!
Amy Grieve
Anna Pinniger
>
>No need for that; Power Point does an automatic word count (File -
>Properties - Statistics), although I don't know how accurate it is.
pretty accurate.
>
>The problem is that it won't do a character count for those of us who
>charge by the line or character. Working into English, I divide the word
>count by 220 to get the number of pages of approx. 1500 characters. I've
>checked it by counting by hand, and it seems about right.
>
comparing my outline rtf print-out with everything that wasn't in it
(most of the work) and counting every single character. Ridiculous, I
know, but the best I could do at the time. Thanks to all who
contributed to this thread - apart from the practical help, it's always
cheering to know you're not alone with these irritating problems.....
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Anna Pinniger
Powerpoint. Market research: would anyone buy it? (Don't be too
cynical, people, he'd expect me to pay for my copy too :-))
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Peter N. M. Hansteen
I can imagine a character count being important in say, Chinese or
Japanese, unless of course the .cn and .jp versions of Poserpoint
count characters instead of words.
So the question remains, whatever for?
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> A friend has offered to write some software to do character counts in
> Powerpoint. Market research: would anyone buy it? (Don't be too
> cynical, people, he'd expect me to pay for my copy too :-))
Hi, Anna.
In my humble opinion the correct solution to this PowerPoint problem from
the point of view of the translators would be to charge for their work by
time rather than characters or words. Working in PowerPoint usually takes
much longer. You have to delete old text, you may have to resize textboxes,
restore formatting that disappeared while overwriting, and the texts of such
presentations are often quite incomprehensible except to their authors. A
character in PowerPoint is therefore not equivalent to a character in Word.
(This does not mean that I wouldn't recommend your friend's software, of
course. :-)
Greetings,
HP
Aspa
File>Send To>Microsoft Word, you specify "Outline Only" and that's it, you
have a Word document with your whole presentation.
Hope this helps
Aspa
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> A friend has offered to write some software to do character counts in
> Powerpoint. Market research: would anyone buy it? (Don't be too
> cynical, people, he'd expect me to pay for my copy too :-))
>
>
> --
> Anna Pinniger
Stephen Martin
I remember doing a largish (40,000 words) ppt job for Compaq a couple
of years ago.
The word count varied SIGNIFICANTLY depending on whether Service Release
1
was installed or not. (Note: this was with PowerPoint 95, not 97).
So watch out with the WC feature in 97.
Steve
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Melissa
Evertjan.
2017 in sci.lang.translation:
> I use an online converter (www.zamzar.com) to turn PPT into DOC. And
> then I simply use the character counter available on Word :)
This NG is about spoken languages, not programming.
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However, this Zamzar thing, useful as it is, has a file limit and when I had to translate an 890 MB, 100-something page PPT, it asked me to buy a full version or something. So I found a workaround which sounds very silly but for large files is a time- and lifesaver:
1. I saved the PPT as PDF;
2. I copied the whole text of the PDF into an Excel file (Note: if you want to copy the whole file's text, you need to zoom out so you see more pages on the screen, otherwise even Ctrl+A selects only the current page.
3. From Excel I copied it into Word and ta-daaaa - took me 2,5 minutes what could have been an hour of copy-pasting the pages one by one...
I hope this helps someone :)
T.
Evertjan.
> On Wednesday, 15 February 2017 20:22:31 UTC+2, Evertjan. wrote:
>>
>> > I use an online converter (www.zamzar.com) to turn PPT into DOC. And
>> > then I simply use the character counter available on Word :)
>>
>> Wrong NG.
>>
>> This NG is about spoken languages, not programming.
> That's neither here nor there :)
but it certainly is not here anymore.
You are responding, here, on something, there, I wrote here 14 months ago,
seemingly about counting words, not about translating something.
Melissa even seemed to have made some kind of programme [there],
for herself to execute.
;-)
> The converter changes the file type so
> that you can use Word to count the characters you translated, nothing
> about programming here :)
but was outside of the thread or was not quoted?
Well this NG is also not about counting tranlated text, imho.
;-)
> However, this Zamzar thing,
What Zamar thing?
Ah, something there, but not here anymore?
> useful as it is, has a file limit and when I
> had to translate an 890 MB, 100-something page PPT, it asked me to buy a
> full version or something. So I found a workaround which sounds very
> silly but for large files is a time- and lifesaver:
>
> 1. I saved the PPT as PDF;
> 2. I copied the whole text of the PDF into an Excel file (Note: if you
> want to copy the whole file's text, you need to zoom out so you see more
> pages on the screen, otherwise even Ctrl+A selects only the current
> page. 3. From Excel I copied it into Word and ta-daaaa - took me 2,5
> minutes what could have been an hour of copy-pasting the pages one by
> one...
>
> I hope this helps someone :)
It seems you were just using my response to speak about something else?
Maybe you are a character that counts.
;-)
nadia....@gmail.com
1. I saved the pptx file as PDF from the menu "save as"
2. Then right click on the PDF and chose "open with Word" , in my case word 2016
3. Word gives you the characters and word count.
No copy and paste needed.
I hope that this helps.
P.S. In my case the difference is almost double between the pptx count and word count.
However, the client bluntly is refusing to pay accordingly, stating "financial department policy".
But this is a different issue.
ighe...@yahoo.co.uk
THANK YOU!
Aleksandra Gros
I am working with CAT tool (Trados) and my workaround is this:
- make the project with the file(s) that you need to count the number of characters in
- open the file (or files one by one) in the CAT tool editor
- copy all of the text by selecting it using mouse, from beginning to the end (click-and-hold left mouse at the beginning of the text of the first segment, then pull down still holding the left mouse key until you have selected all of the text, and than CTRL+C to copy)
- copy the text into Word and use word/character counter
When importing PowerPoint files into the project be aware that Trados has setting which you would need to adjust prior to importing, about importing (or not) the comments, hidden text etc. from the PowerPoint files.
Hope this might help!
Sasha