Ookii vs. Ookina?
Frank...@rug.ac.be
I' m studying Japanese but this seems a problem.
Does anybody know when you should use ookii and when ookina?
Is there a diference( there must be ) and what is it?
Arigatou!
Frank
muchan
Frank wrote:
> Does anybody know when you should use ookii and when ookina?
>
> Is there a diference( there must be ) and what is it?
>
Uuuum, I don't see any differnce in meaning.
Usage is slightly differnt:
'ookii' is used both as modifier and as predicative.
ookii ie big house
kono ie-wa ookii This house is big
'ookina' is used as modifier but not as predicative.
ookina ie big house
kono ie-wa ookina wrong!
As modifier to abstract/functional noun, like mono, no, etc,
'ookii' looks preferable.
'ookii no' (a big one) sounds more natural than 'ookina no'
So as for 'chiisai' <--> 'chiisana',
'chitchai'<--> 'chictchana'.
'ookina' looks like 'keiyoudoushi' or '-na adjective' but it's not.
You don't say 'ooki-ni'.
(Kyoto dialect's "ooki-ni" -- arigatou -- is just differnt word.)
So 'ookina', 'chiisana', 'chitchana' are exceptional adjectives.
(and any other? welllll, Bart! Help me!)
'dekkai' is used as 'ookii' but 'dekkana' doesn't exist.
muchan
Gerald B Mathias
muchan (muc...@promikra.si) wrote:
: 'ookina' looks like 'keiyoudoushi' or '-na adjective' but it's not.
: You don't say 'ooki-ni'.
: (Kyoto dialect's "ooki-ni" -- arigatou -- is just differnt word.)
Surely not "just" a different word. It must have the same "ooki-" root,
no?
: So 'ookina', 'chiisana', 'chitchana' are exceptional adjectives.
: (and any other? welllll, Bart! Help me!)
I can only add "okasina" at the moment.
"Okasini" as in "okasi-ni siyoo" "I think I'll have some cookies" is
just a different word. :-)
Bart
l...@mars.dtinet.or.jp
Bonjour Frank,
Frank...@rug.ac.be wrote:
> Does anybody know when you should use ookii and when ookina?
Both are adjective as you know, but generally, former is at the end of
sentence. i.e. Kono ishi wa ookii.
The latter is always before noun. i.e. Are wa ookina ie datta.
But in this case, you can also use ookii. Are wa ookii ie datta.
These two nuance are the same in this case.
D'accord?
Bon courage,
Lou
--
Gerald B Mathias
Dahoule (dah...@aol.com) wrote:
: I thought ookii was an -i adjective. Is there a -na version?
Not if you mean a -na adjective version. There is a word ookina which
can obviously be analyzed into (oo-ki)-na, but it doesn't conjugate as
a -na adjective (keiyoodooshi). Similarly there are tiisana and okasina,
unaccompanied by *tiisani, *okaside, etc.
Bart
Dahoule
I thought ookii was an -i adjective. Is there a -na version?
Bujinkan Middlesex Dojo
New Jersey, USA
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t...@shutdownmusic.net
> I' m studying Japanese but this seems a problem.
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> Frank
nah bruh
Jim Breen
then.
I'm glad Frank didn't really have to wait 23 years for a reply;
there were several good ones back then.
Discovering SLJ back in 1989 or so was a life-changing event for
me, although I didn't know it at the time.
Jim
Ben Bullock
> On Wednesday, 5 June 2019 03:50:14 UTC+10, t...@shutdownmusic.net wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 23, 1996 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Frank...@rug.ac.be wrote:
> > > I' m studying Japanese but this seems a problem.
> > >
> > > Does anybody know when you should use ookii and when ookina?
> > >
> > > Is there a diference( there must be ) and what is it?
> > >
> > > Arigatou!
> > >
> > >
> > > Frank
> >
> > nah bruh
>
> 1996! I remember 1996. Why I'd only be reading SLJ a few years
> then.
>
> I'm glad Frank didn't really have to wait 23 years for a reply;
> there were several good ones back then.
> Discovering SLJ back in 1989 or so was a life-changing event for
> me, although I didn't know it at the time.