Why does "kondo" refer to "next time"?

[Joe Petrow]

By looking at the word one would think that "kondo" would always refer to
"this time", or "this occurrence of this event." Yet most of the time I
hear it being used like "Kondo koso zettai ikimasu kara ne!", which is
referring to the _next_ time something is to be done. Why is this?

Joe Petrow
joe...@server.berkeley.edu

[Reuben Muns]

BrianMoriguchi <b...@infowave1.com> wrote:

>I think it should be kondo no natu [今度の夏] if you want to refer
>this coming summer in march.

Wouldn't "kotoshi no natsu" [今年の夏] be more common?
Reuben

[BrianMoriguchi]

I think it depends on what context is in the sentence.
The subject refers to reccurence EVENT in every summer, kondo no natsu
may be used more often. but it refers to an event in this summer, like
"what are you going to do in this summer?" ,,kotoshi no natsu may be used
more often.

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[Antti Eskola]

Reuben Muns wrote:
>
> BrianMoriguchi <b...@infowave1.com> wrote:
>
> >I think it should be kondo no natu [今度の夏] if you want to refer
> >this coming summer in march.
>
> Wouldn't "kotoshi no natsu" [今年の夏] be more common?
> Reuben

Sounds good. My point was that if last week, this week and next
week are senshu-, konshu- and raishu-, a student of Japanese might
easily be misled to believe that kondo means the same as kon kai.

Antti

[CHRIS THE FOOM-MEISTER VANDEVENTER]

In article <3140B7...@ktm.vn.mailnet.fi>, Antti Eskola <antti....@ktm.vn.mailnet.fi> writes:
>Mark Barton wrote:
>>
>>
>> joepet@server writes:
>> >Subject: Why does "kondo" refer to "next time"?
>> >From: Joe Petrow, joepet@server
>>"This time I _will_ get all the way!" where "this time" means a
>> "next
>> time" that is not too far away? When you've worked out why it works in English, you have your answer in Japanese.
>
>> In any case "kondo" often contrasts with "tsugi", for example on electric signboards for trains. The next train is "kondo" and the one
>after that is "tsugi".
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Mark B.
>
>Is it really that simple: Next train and next departure might
>be different things. If the train is at the station waiting
>for departure it would be this train, but maybe next departure,
>which could be 5 minutes from now? Or could it? Now that it's March,
>would next summer (in the Northern hemisphere) be next summer or
>this summer? In any case I have understood that the kanji
>for kondo correspond to "ima no kai" said [falsely]in a different way.
>Then why doesn't konshu mean next week? Ie. should we accept
>that kondo meaning next time is indeed illogical, but what
>right do we have to question it?...
>
>Questions of relativity...
>
>Antti

>>This is all true, but as far as the use of "tsugi" I've seen it used on the
>>electric signs in Tokyo's subway cars. When they want to announce the
>"next stop," the one you're coming up on, "tsugi" is used. Even the annoucers
>>use it. Is it just me?

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