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Brad Guth

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Apr 14, 2012, 10:26:41 PM4/14/12
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Brad Guth

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Apr 15, 2012, 12:43:20 AM4/15/12
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On Apr 14, 7:26 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  Huge Sphere in Sun's Corona (? new planet forming ?)
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/gpn-general-politics-and-news/browse_f...
For something that happened over a month ago, you’d think our resident
FUD-masters would have had this one all figured out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ7RaOMHb5I

So, what the hell is it?

Hägar

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Apr 15, 2012, 11:12:53 AM4/15/12
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"Brad Guth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It's an illusion you UFO nuts are afflicted with.
About the same as Obama's re-election fantasy ...
In either case, there's no "there" there ...
just your imagination gone wild ...


Brad Guth

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Apr 15, 2012, 12:21:51 PM4/15/12
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On Apr 15, 8:12 am, "Hägar" <hs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Brad Guth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
It's an illusion captured by two entirely different satellites, and
lasted for quite some time. Good one.

Was that enormous cool triangle area another illusion?

How does a star create such enormous geometric area of such a
significant temperature variance?

Hägar

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Apr 15, 2012, 1:09:33 PM4/15/12
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"Brad Guth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Well, it could be a Venusian spaceship refueling, since gas there has also
become extremely expensive because of the greed of GWB and Dick Cheney.
Seems sucking plasma from the Sun is an option the Anointed One hasn't yet
considered. Of course the temperature at the distance of the perceived
object would be around 4500F, about the same as the hot air the Negroid is
spewing to get his sorry ass re-elected.
You should go there, GuthBall ... we'd all chip in ...


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Hägar

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Apr 15, 2012, 2:24:27 PM4/15/12
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"Fred J. McCall" <fjmc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> It's called 'weather', Brad. You know, the stuff that atmospheres of
> celestial bodies (like the Earth) exhibit? Well, what we see of the
> Sun is its ATMOSPHERE, so we see all sorts of vortices, plumes,
> temperature variations, auroras, etc.
>
> --
> "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
> territory."
> --G. Behn

GuthBall once had an open mind ... then his brain fell out ....


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Brad Guth

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Apr 15, 2012, 3:30:28 PM4/15/12
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You could be right, at least this time. Venus is not a planet for the
dumbfounded or those mentally dysfunctionals like yourself.

Dean

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Apr 15, 2012, 5:01:29 PM4/15/12
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It's not a planet for much of anything until you manage to blow off
99% of its atmosphere. I trust you are working on that?

Don Deluise

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Apr 15, 2012, 7:10:04 PM4/15/12
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This video is from March13 2012:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82l46fpd-ic

Brad Guth

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Apr 15, 2012, 8:31:01 PM4/15/12
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On Apr 15, 4:10 pm, Don Deluise <n...@armstrong.com> wrote:
> On 4/14/2012 10:26 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
> >   Huge Sphere in Sun's Corona (? new planet forming ?)
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/gpn-general-politics-and-news/browse_f...
> >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ7RaOMHb5I
> >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTH67ufxI_Q&feature=related
>
> >   How much cooler, the sun inside the triangle?
> >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25CmSCVLZG8&feature=related
>
> >  http://groups.google.com/groups/search
> >  http://translate.google.com/#
> >   Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”
>
> This video is from March13 2012:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82l46fpd-ic

Thanks, that's a very good one.

So, the sun creates these extremely large spherical volumes of cool
gas as combined with a CME representing how many teratonnes?

How about that enormous cool triangle area? (what's the total area and
its average thermal differential?)
Are we talking 100 K, 1000 K or 5000 K

Brad Guth

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Apr 15, 2012, 8:38:50 PM4/15/12
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Actually the planet notion came from others mentioning it, although
any massive CME of multiple teratonnes could possibly start a planet
if it's own molecular collective gravity could pull itself into a
sphere (ideally surrounding an existing asteroid of similar or greater
mass) once getting away from the sun.

Hägar

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Apr 16, 2012, 9:55:19 AM4/16/12
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"Brad Guth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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*** Absolutely correct ... the Venusions prefer visitors with
pre-fried brains ... like yours ... makes acclimatization so much
easier ...


Dean

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Apr 16, 2012, 2:16:28 PM4/16/12
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No, I don't believe that. Planets are much more massive than a CME.
Plus a CME is largely hydrogen. Not the best starting point for a
small planet.

Brad Guth

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Apr 16, 2012, 3:19:43 PM4/16/12
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All planets started from a magic gravity seed or the random
happenstance of a given mass, that subsequently collected other
matter, all of which came from the stars.

Brad Guth

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Apr 16, 2012, 4:51:02 PM4/16/12
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Are you suggesting that we're not all made of star stuff?

Last time I'd checked, all planets started from either a magic gravity
seed or the random happenstance of a given rogue mass, that
subsequently collected other matter, all of which came from the stars.

Hägar

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Apr 16, 2012, 5:14:16 PM4/16/12
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"Brad Guth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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*** I do believe I was referring to surface temperatures of almost 900F, you
imbecile ... get your head out of your colon ...


Brad Guth

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Apr 16, 2012, 6:00:42 PM4/16/12
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Just because rednecks would melt and otherwise turn into carbon by
going to Venus in the nude, doesn't mean that the rest of us regular
humans would have to be so totally dumb and dumber.

Dean

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Apr 16, 2012, 8:15:46 PM4/16/12
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A "magic gravity seed"?

Brad Guth

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Apr 16, 2012, 10:10:45 PM4/16/12
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I was just fooling around with that one. Typically a captured
asteroid of significant mass, such as little Cruithne at 1.3e14 kg
might even be a sufficient gravity seed if it was frequently
surrounded by a few clouds of CME from time to time, could eventually
grow into a hot planet like Venus if that growth phase lasted for a
couple million years.

When our solar system moved through the vast Sirius molecular cloud,
it should have picked up many billion teratonnes.

Hägar

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Apr 17, 2012, 9:33:20 AM4/17/12
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"Brad Guth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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And what materials would your imaginary space suit be made of again ???
900F just about eliminates everything we use today. Don't forget ... it
also has to withstand the -300F+ temps of possible EVAs between Earth and
your Venusian paradise, you DingBat.


Brad Guth

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Apr 17, 2012, 9:43:42 AM4/17/12
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Metals and composites that wouldn't melt. There's even
electromechanical stuff that's rated for 811 K as is.

Obviously some considerable R&D needs to get accomplished, and just
getting an composite rigid airship-shuttle to/from Venus is not going
to be easy.

The first efforts would be all via telerobotics, so that life support
isn't going to be an issue. A manned outpost or gateway/oasis at the
cool Venus L2 would likely be as close as the first teams ever need to
get.

Thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/bradguth/BradGuth#5630418595926178146
https://picasaweb.google.com/bradguth/BradGuth#5629579402364691314
Brad Guth / Blog and my Google document pages:
http://groups.google.com/group/guth-usenet?hl=en
http://bradguth.blogspot.com/
http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddsdxhv_0hrm5bdfj

Dean

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Apr 17, 2012, 2:29:11 PM4/17/12
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And don't forget the pressure. And the incredible corrosivity.

Brad Guth

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Apr 17, 2012, 5:12:55 PM4/17/12
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All within spec of what smart humans and our technology can be adapted
to.

Btw; crystal dry sulfur is inert, no matters how hot it is. The O2
level is so slight that oxidization is not an issue either, much less
representing any open fire hazards.

Perhaps yourself and others of any deductive image interpreting
expertise can add a little something from their very own
observationology talent to this growing list, of contributing to what
an actively thriving community of an intelligent mining operation
should look like, as imaged from the perspective of an advanced spy
satellite, keeping in mind that the scale of such items on any given
dimension has to be worth at least 75 meters/pixel or preferably
larger 225 m/pixel in order to count, so for the most part we’re not
trying to interpret anything that’s smaller than 225 meters per
geometric dimension.

Dean

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Apr 17, 2012, 7:40:26 PM4/17/12
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On Apr 17, 5:12 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
snipped as irrelevant....
> to.
>
> Btw;  crystal dry sulfur is inert, no matters how hot it is.  The O2
> level is so slight that oxidization is not an issue either, much less
> representing any open fire hazards.
>

>  Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

Brad, I am a chemist. I am a damned good chemist. Do not try to
bullshit or cut and paste about chemistry as in your above statement.
Suffice it to say that what you wrote is patently false.

Stick to your normal bullshit.

Brad Guth

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Apr 17, 2012, 7:53:27 PM4/17/12
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Crystal dry sulfur as well as most other dry elements are inert, no
matters how cold or hot they get.

Are you suggesting there's sufficient surface water vapor on Venus?

How about carbonated water? (because I could buy that)

Even raw 100% sulfur on Earth can be relatively inert (harmless to
handle), unless you'd care to pee on it or try to eat it.

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HVAC

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Apr 18, 2012, 6:03:22 AM4/18/12
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On 4/17/2012 7:53 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> On Apr 17, 4:40 pm, Dean<damark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Brad, I am a chemist. I am a damned good chemist. Do not try to
>> bullshit or cut and paste about chemistry as in your above statement.
>> Suffice it to say that what you wrote is patently false.
>>
>> Stick to your normal bullshit.
>
>
> Even raw 100% sulfur on Earth can be relatively inert (harmless to
> handle), unless you'd care to pee on it or try to eat it.


Peeing on a pile of sulfur and eating it is definitely not Guth's
'normal bullshit'. It's *abnormal* bullshit.










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Dean

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Apr 18, 2012, 8:17:02 AM4/18/12
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He can do whatever he wants. He's clearly wrong. The topic was Venus
and now he's saying Earth. Typical Brad methods of moving goalposts
to deflect his errors.

Brad Guth

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Apr 18, 2012, 9:10:52 AM4/18/12
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Unlike yourself and others you continually brown-nose, I'm always
saving Earth, especially from idiots and oligarch Semites like
yourself.

HVAC

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Apr 18, 2012, 9:11:55 AM4/18/12
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On 4/18/2012 8:17 AM, Dean wrote:
>
>>
>>>> Stick to your normal bullshit.
>>
>>> Even raw 100% sulfur on Earth can be relatively inert (harmless to
>>> handle), unless you'd care to pee on it or try to eat it.
>>
>> Peeing on a pile of sulfur and eating it is definitely not Guth's
>> 'normal bullshit'. It's *abnormal* bullshit.
>>
>
>
> He can do whatever he wants. He's clearly wrong. The topic was Venus
> and now he's saying Earth. Typical Brad methods of moving goalposts
> to deflect his errors.


But Brad can see UV light!

Brad Guth

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Apr 18, 2012, 9:22:37 AM4/18/12
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On Apr 15, 11:24 am, "Hägar" <hs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Fred J. McCall" <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:290mo7t7ah8mc7tb5...@4ax.com...
Redneck conditional physics suits your kind.

Noticed how you still can't interpret any image unless its from a
colorful pop-up book that always makes you laugh.

Why don't you tell us how much cooler it is within that dark triangle
area?

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HVAC

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Apr 18, 2012, 11:16:24 AM4/18/12
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On 4/18/2012 9:10 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
>>
>>> Peeing on a pile of sulfur and eating it is definitely not Guth's
>>> 'normal bullshit'. It's *abnormal* bullshit.
>>
>>
>> He can do whatever he wants. He's clearly wrong. The topic was Venus
>> and now he's saying Earth. Typical Brad methods of moving goalposts
>> to deflect his errors.
>
> Unlike yourself and others you continually brown-nose, I'm always
> saving Earth, especially from idiots and oligarch Semites like
> yourself.


LOL! Now Guth is *saving* Earth!


I also love how Guth hates me so much that he will
never respond to me directly. That means *I* win!

Dean

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Apr 18, 2012, 12:34:40 PM4/18/12
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And now the insults as well. Typical.

Brad Guth

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Apr 19, 2012, 12:51:30 AM4/19/12
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You started it.

Dean

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Apr 19, 2012, 3:29:18 PM4/19/12
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Get out of third grade mode.
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Brad Guth

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Apr 20, 2012, 2:51:59 PM4/20/12
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So you don't actually know how much cooler those dark plasma spheres
or those enormous surface areas really are, and yet you claim to be
all-knowing.

Are you saying that our planet or any other planet isn't made of star
stuff?

How about explaining the cool 10+ tonnes per second of helium that
Earth is losing?

You're the one claiming our government agencies never make mistakes
nor obfuscate/exclude anything in order to cover their false flags and
sucking up to Big Energy butts.

HVAC

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Apr 20, 2012, 7:58:15 PM4/20/12
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On 4/20/2012 2:42 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>
>>>>>
>>>>> Even raw 100% sulfur on Earth can be relatively inert (harmless to
>>>>> handle), unless you'd care to pee on it or try to eat it.
>>>>
>>>> Peeing on a pile of sulfur and eating it is definitely not Guth's
>>>> 'normal bullshit'. It's *abnormal* bullshit.
>>>>
>>>
>>> He can do whatever he wants. He's clearly wrong. The topic was Venus
>>> and now he's saying Earth. Typical Brad methods of moving goalposts
>>> to deflect his errors.
>>>
>>
>> But Brad can see UV light!
>>
>
> Is that before or after he pees on sulphur?


That depends....Is it lunchtime?

Dean

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Apr 21, 2012, 8:49:17 AM4/21/12
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On Apr 20, 2:42 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On 4/18/2012 8:17 AM, Dean wrote:
>
> >>>>> Stick to your normal bullshit.
>
> >>>> Even raw 100% sulfur on Earth can be relatively inert (harmless to
> >>>> handle), unless you'd care to pee on it or try to eat it.
>
> >>> Peeing on a pile of sulfur and eating it is definitely not Guth's
> >>> 'normal bullshit'.  It's *abnormal* bullshit.
>
> >> He can do whatever he wants.  He's clearly wrong.  The topic was Venus
> >> and now he's saying Earth.  Typical Brad methods of moving goalposts
> >> to deflect his errors.
>
> >But Brad can see UV light!
>
> Is that before or after he pees on sulphur?
>
> --
> "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
>  territory."
>                                       --G. Behn

I'd rather he pee on an electric fence.

Dean

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Apr 21, 2012, 8:48:33 AM4/21/12
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On Apr 20, 2:39 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Apr 17, 4:40 pm, Dean <damark...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Apr 17, 5:12 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> snipped as irrelevant....
>
> >> > to.
>
> >> > Btw;  crystal dry sulfur is inert, no matters how hot it is.  The O2
> >> > level is so slight that oxidization is not an issue either, much less
> >> > representing any open fire hazards.
>
> >> >  Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”
>
> >> Brad, I am a chemist.  I am a damned good chemist.  Do not try to
> >> bullshit or cut and paste about chemistry as in your above statement.
> >> Suffice it to say that what you wrote is patently false.
>
> >> Stick to your normal bullshit.
>
> >Crystal dry sulfur as well as most other dry elements are inert, no
> >matters how cold or hot they get.
>
> "Crystal dry sulfur" melts at 112.8 degC and boils to vapour at
> 444.667 degC.
>
>
>
> >Are you suggesting there's sufficient surface water vapor on Venus?
>
> It doesn't require WATER, you dipshit.  It requires hydrogen (all over
> the place) and oxygen (ditto) and a little heat (which Venus has in
> plenty) and you have acid.
>
> It doesn't even require that.  Put hot sulphur together with hot iron
> or hot zinc and you get a very energetic reaction.
>
> "When heated with a red-hot metal rod, mixtures of iron and sulfur and
> of zinc and sulfur react vigorously. The reaction with zinc produces
> flame and a near explosion."
>
> http://www.jce.divched.org/JCESoft/CCA/CCA3/MAIN/FEZNSUL/PAGE1.HTM
>
> In other words, you're an ignorant twat, Guthball.
>
> --
> "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
>  truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
>                                -- Thomas Jefferson

I was going to point out to him that oxygen is not needed to have
oxidation reactions. But then I realized he is not going to
comprehend the subject anyway.

Dean

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Apr 21, 2012, 8:50:17 AM4/21/12
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LOL, more deflection.

Brad Guth

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Apr 21, 2012, 12:59:16 PM4/21/12
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At 96 bar, there is O2 and obviously loads of carbonated acidic vapors
on Venus.

However, the mainstream status-quo that you worship have been the ones
claiming that the purely greenhouse heated surface of Venus is too
freaking hot, and that it never rains anything acidic on the surface
of Venus, and therefore the surface of Venus is crystal dry. I
actually never bought into that silly interpretation, but I'll gladly
use it to my advantage.

In spite of the usual mainstream gauntlet that’ll automatically by
default and applied obfuscation, always oppose anything that’s new or
improved, can be further nullified or if need be circumvented, as
perhaps from yourself and others of any deductive image interpreting
expertise can at least try to add a little something from their very
own observationology talent to this growing list, of contributing
their own interpretation to what an actively thriving community of an
intelligent mining operation should look like, as if imaged from the
perspective of an advanced spy satellite, keeping in mind that the
scale of such items on any given dimension has to be worth at least 75
meters/pixel or preferably larger 225 m/pixel in order to count, so
for the most part we’re not trying to interpret anything that’s
smaller than 225 meters per geometric dimension, although some
deductive interpretations could be reveling as to whatever else is
there.

Brad Guth

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Apr 21, 2012, 1:01:08 PM4/21/12
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How is the whole truth and nothing but the truth as based upon the
best available evidence and science, a deflection?
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HVAC

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On 4/21/2012 3:33 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>
>>
>
> Guthball, you wouldn't recognize 'evidence' or 'science' if someone
> was to jam them up your arse sideways.


Don't get Guth started...He's already got some bizarre fecal fetish.

Dean

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Apr 22, 2012, 1:36:06 PM4/22/12
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Your talent for using a lot of words to say nothing is noted.

Dean

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Apr 22, 2012, 1:45:43 PM4/22/12
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Explain what a "carbonated acidic vapor" is and how you measure
acidity in the absence of water. C'mon, I'm giving you a chance
here. Also, tell us how much free O2 there is on Venus and how it
behaves at 96 bar and 600C?

Brad Guth

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Apr 22, 2012, 2:20:02 PM4/22/12
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At least I fully concur that planets and everything else imaginable is
made from stars, or at least formulated from the exact same stuff as
whatever created stars.

As stars fail they tend to become unstable, a whole lot worse yet is
when stars combine, or even passing one another within 1000r is seldom
going to be uneventful.

What's your better suggestion as to where planets of any significant
metallicity come from?

According to others and myself, there's even a whole lot more rogue/
wandering nomad planets than there are stars. I've suggested a
thousand fold more of such nomad planets than stars. All planets
combined could even exceed the mass of stars within our 5e55 kg
universe (-90% as dark matter), leaves 5e54 kg as stars and planets,
and 3e54 kg of that is worth 5e29 Earth mass planets).

Off-world exploitations for obtaining rare-earths and otherwise
valuable elements, is about to get going un spite of what the
Oligarchs and Rothschilds have to say. As I said before, it’ll become
the future gold rush, except worth a thousand fold better as
terrestrial resources get depleted, dry-up or get too bloody and/or
too spendy to go after.

Now the mainstream media hyped cover-story for our not only
paramagnetic but sporadic or uneven magnetic surfaced moon, is that it
was mostly deposited via asteroids. No doubt asteroids are capable of
packing a good amount of rare-earth like heavy elements that are
highly magnetic, as well as paramagnetic or even hosting some
diamagnetic elements such a gold, but so could those local indigenous
bedrocks offer metallicity of what that physically dark moon itself
represents as a great deal of paramagnetic basalt and carbonado
that’ll rate 3.5+ g/cm3.

Magnetic Moon:
Magnetic Anomalies On Moon Are Result of Asteroid Collision
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120308143213.htm
This is actually good research of interpreting the best available
science, that helps us to better understand our extremely unusual moon
(by far the most massive and largest known moon in respect to its
planet)

On our moon there’s roughly 300,000 craters of 1 km or larger (of
mostly craters within craters, within craters). Of the largest .1%
(300) craters, any one of those would have briefly terminated most all
life on earth, and the top 0.01% (30) craters would have each easily
terminated all forms of life on Earth for thousands of years if not
indefinitely. The surface area of Earth is roughly 13.5 times as
great of target as that of the moon, which means those 30 potentially
lethal craters becomes 405 life extinction encounters because we’re
such a bigger target cruising within the exact same area as the moon,
plus Earth being a whole lot more gravity attractive means that
whatever’s a near miss the first few times around isn’t going to
prevent some future encounter of the lithobraking kind. In other
words, multiply those moon craters by at least 13.5, and that’s what
Earth would have had to deal with, plus those unavoidable tidal
captures become worth 5+ million for that same period of time, or
perhaps even 6+ million craters of larger than a km since supposedly
Earth existed for a quarter billion years before that physically dark
and paramagnetic moon ever materialized.

Of course most of whatever impactors got deflected off our moon by a
glancing blow, as well as the vast majority of crater displacement or
impactor blown out bedrock that exceeded the lunar escape velocity of
2.5 km/sec would have also ended up on Earth, because according to our
Apollo era of supposedly walking and driving upon the lunar surface,
there’s hardly any depth of loose soil or debris of meteorites and
secondary shards.

If given the average impactor mass of only 1e12 kg, times 6e6 = 6e18
kg of solid mass added to Earth over the past 4.25e9 years, plus there
had to be those several thousand teratonnes of secondary impactor and
bedrock shards derived from the moon itself that ended up here on
Earth. Combined we’re lucky if Earth wasn’t impacted by 6e19 kg worth
of mostly metallicity basalt rock, because there’s also whatever comet
ice deposited before, during and after, and those comets usually had a
rocky core. In other words, up until roughly a few million years ago,
our planet had gained .001% mass, but as of lately and mostly of that
past few hundred years our planet has been losing the kind of valuable
mass that modern physics and science can’t so easily do without.

Dean

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Apr 22, 2012, 6:18:13 PM4/22/12
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On Apr 22, 2:20 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Snipped as a lot of nothing.
>
> > Your talent for using a lot of words to say nothing is noted.
>
Snipped as another deflection.
>  http://translate.google.com/#
>  Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

Stop deflecting. Answer the questions I asked:

Brad Guth

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Apr 22, 2012, 7:04:38 PM4/22/12
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Carbonated water if you like, except a whole lot hotter than you'd
ever care to drink, would be a carbonated transition vapor while near
that geothermally toasty planet surface compressed at 96 bar of local
confinement.

That CO2 under such 96 bar pressure is nearly a superfluid, and CO2
should have no molecular problems binding with many other elements.

There's not much free O2, but what there is of it can be highly usable
to anyone that knows how a molecular sieve works.

http://groups.google.com/groups/search
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Brad Guth

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Apr 22, 2012, 8:27:14 PM4/22/12
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On Apr 22, 3:18 pm, Dean <damark...@gmail.com> wrote:
Carbonated water if you like, except a whole lot hotter than you'd
ever care to drink, would be a carbonated transition vapor while near
that geothermally toasty planet surface compressed at 96 bar of local
confinement. Much higher off the surface should be carbonated
sulfuric acid to play with.

That CO2 under such 96 bar pressure is nearly a super-critical fluid,
and that CO2 should have no molecular problems binding with many other
elements.

Open cycle (single-pass) refrigeration is certainly never going to be
a problem.

There's not much free O2, but what little there is of it can be highly
usable to anyone that knows how a molecular sieve works.

http://groups.google.com/groups/search

Dean

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Apr 22, 2012, 9:59:05 PM4/22/12
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On Apr 22, 7:58 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jesus H. Christ, Guthball, how do you retain such ignorance over so
> many years?
>
>
>
> >That CO2 under such 96 bar pressure is nearly a superfluid, ...
>
> Utter bunk!  Go learn about what superfluidity is.
>
>
>
> >... and CO2
> >should have no molecular problems binding with many other elements.
>
> Horse manure!  CO2 isn't an element and it is pretty much inert, being
> a low energy state.
>
>
>
> >There's not much free O2, but what there is of it can be highly usable
> >to anyone that knows how a molecular sieve works.
>
> Bullshit!  What there is of it is molecular oxygen (reactive and
> corrosive) in the upper atmosphere and you wouldn't know a molecular
> sieve is someone passed you through one looking for a molecule of
> intellect.
>
> --
> "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
>  truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
>                                -- Thomas Jefferson

Exactly Fred. There is no superfluid CO2 on Venus. There is no water
or free O2 either except for the tiniest traces in the upper
atmosphere. This is Brad bullshitting, stringing together words he
does not comprehend.

Brad Guth

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Apr 23, 2012, 12:07:02 AM4/23/12
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Your denial of physics of denial is noted, as is your FUD of word
games.

Is there one example in your pathetic life of having ever supported
another human on Earth? (if so, please specify)
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HVAC

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Apr 23, 2012, 8:03:24 AM4/23/12
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On 4/22/2012 7:58 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>
> Horse manure! CO2 isn't an element and it is pretty much inert, being
> a low energy state.
>
>>
>> There's not much free O2, but what there is of it can be highly usable
>> to anyone that knows how a molecular sieve works.
>>
>
> Bullshit! What there is of it is molecular oxygen (reactive and
> corrosive) in the upper atmosphere and you wouldn't know a molecular
> sieve is someone passed you through one looking for a molecule of
> intellect.


That just means that YOU are a LLPOF, ZNR fudmaster oligarch.
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Dean

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Apr 23, 2012, 1:52:18 PM4/23/12
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On Apr 23, 12:07 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Snipped as a waste of electrons.

Stop deflecting. Answer the questions I asked:
Explain what a "carbonated acidic vapor" is and how you measure
acidity in the absence of water. C'mon, I'm giving you a chance
here. Also, tell us how much free O2 there is on Venus and how it
behaves at 96 bar and 600C?

That is the third time I've asked. I'm trying to give you a chance
here to show what you've learned.

Brad Guth

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Apr 23, 2012, 2:40:25 PM4/23/12
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You have no intentions of ever helping in the past, present or
future. At least not with myself or anyone else we can think of.

Would you you care to prove or demonstrate otherwise?
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HVAC

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Apr 23, 2012, 3:01:04 PM4/23/12
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Guth just keeps changing the subject till everyone becomes bored.

Dean

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Apr 23, 2012, 7:18:58 PM4/23/12
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I am asking YOU to demonstrate. You made the statements above. Now
answer the questions I asked.

Brad Guth

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Apr 24, 2012, 7:35:41 PM4/24/12
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On Apr 14, 7:26 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  Huge Sphere in Sun's Corona (? new planet forming ?)
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/gpn-general-politics-and-news/browse_f...
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ7RaOMHb5I
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTH67ufxI_Q&feature=related
>
>  How much cooler, the sun inside the triangle?
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25CmSCVLZG8&feature=related
>
>  http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>  http://translate.google.com/#
>  Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”

Such extreme solar weather is just getting started, with future 1e14
kg CMEs and perhaps even a 1e15 kg CME due anytime.

That much of a cooler triangular surface area can't be a good sign.

Perhaps a look-see at the photosphere of Sirius(A) could help us
understand what to expect from our sun.

Commander Jameson

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Apr 25, 2012, 8:27:22 PM4/25/12
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Sorry, that must have been me harvesting fuel.
Won't happen again.
Sincerely,

--
Commander "Elite" Jameson

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