New Metroguide Europe
Hakan Mansson
Finally, Garmin has released a Metroguide Europe for the price of just a
single country.
http://www.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/MGEuro.html
And an upgrade price for existing owners of a single country for just
£47.00!!
My upgrade coupon and CD is already on it's way, well done Garmin it will
surely be a bestseller and hopefully kill the "unofficial" market.
Have you Jack and/or Joe got an advanced copy to look at ? Any impressions
to share ?
Regards
Hakan Mansson
Jack Yeazel
Hakan Mansson wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Finally, Garmin has released a Metroguide Europe for the price of just a
> single country.
>
> http://www.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/MGEuro.html
>
> Have you Jack and/or Joe got an advanced copy to look at ? Any impressions
> to share ?
Not here, we generally don't get European maps to review... Maybe someone will
supply us with a review...
--
Jack
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Hamish Marson
> Hi,
>
> Finally, Garmin has released a Metroguide Europe for the price of just a
> single country.
>
> http://www.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/MGEuro.html
>
Is garmin down... Again?
$ telnet www.garmin.com 80
Trying 65.208.249.100...
No response... Either the Internet has a hole, or Garmin has crapped out
again for the umteenth time in the past few weeks... Maybe if they ran a
supported web server they'd get better uptimes...
> And an upgrade price for existing owners of a single country for just
> £47.00!!
>
Now this is worth the price, if true... No unlock codes? The whole of europe?
Cool. All we need now is editing, and a decent mapsource and I'll be (Mostly)
satisfied...
>
> My upgrade coupon and CD is already on it's way, well done Garmin it will
> surely be a bestseller and hopefully kill the "unofficial" market.
>
> Have you Jack and/or Joe got an advanced copy to look at ? Any impressions
> to share ?
>
> Regards
>
> Hakan Mansson
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Hans-Georg Michna
>Finally, Garmin has released a Metroguide Europe for the price of just a
>single country.
>
>http://www.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/MGEuro.html
>
>And an upgrade price for existing owners of a single country for just
>£47.00!!
>
>My upgrade coupon and CD is already on it's way, well done Garmin it will
>surely be a bestseller and hopefully kill the "unofficial" market.
Hakan,
incredible! I would have lost a bet ...
Now I have a few questions.
First and foremost: does it have complete road coverage for
Germany and other central European countries? I could ask for a
few specific streets that weren't in the old MetroGuide to find
out.
Second, does it permit auto-routing?
If yes, this incites the obvious third question: What's the
difference between the new MetroGuide and City Navigator Europe
or City Select Europe?
Guess I won't get answers immediately, but I'll be grateful
later as well.
Hans-Georg
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Hakan Mansson
"Hamish Marson" <ham...@travellingkiwi.com> wrote in message
news:3C2E3953...@travellingkiwi.com...
> Is garmin down... Again?
>
> Now this is worth the price, if true... No unlock codes? The whole of
europe?
> Cool. All we need now is editing, and a decent mapsource and I'll be
(Mostly)
> satisfied...
>
This is from Garmin website: (Currently offline....)
.................................................................
All of our European MetroGuides have now been combined and updated into this
single MetroGuide Europe CD which covers all of Western Europe. In addition
to the updated map data, we've added enhanced features such as automatic
routing capabilities on the PC.
MetroGuide Europe is now updated to include:
Updated map data and expanded coverage to include countries never offered in
previous releases. Though there is general coverage for all of Western
Europe, see the map below for a list of cities that are covered in the
fullest detail
Detailed maps of Western Europe, with business and residential street names
and address lookup capability on the PC before downloading to a compatible
unit with address lookup feature
Map detail contains attributes for automatic routing on the PC
Detailed maps containing motorways, national and regional thoroughfares, and
local roads, plus other navigation features
Points of interest, such as food and drink, lodging, border crossings,
petrol stations, hospitals and more
To find out more about this update and receive an update coupon, download
one of the following PDF files*
If you reside in the United States, click here
If you reside outside of the United States, click here
Available January, 2002
MapSourceT MetroGuide Europe (CD ROM only)
GARMIN Part Number: 010-10370-00
List Price: $174.98
MetroGuide Europe coverage detail:
England & Scotland: Full coverage
Ireland: Full coverage
Northern Ireland: Full coverage
Denmark: Full coverage
Finland: Helsinki
Norway: Asker, Bærum, Eidsvoll, Fredrikstad, Halden, Lørenskog, Moss, Nes,
Nittedal, Oppegård, Oslo, Sarpsborg, Skedsmo, Ski, Ullensaker
Sweden: Borås, Eskilstuna, Gävle, Göteborg, Helsingborg, Jönköping,
Linköping, Lund, Malmö, Norrköping, Örebro, Stockholm, Sundsvall, Uppsala,
Västerås
Germany: Full coverage
France: Full coverage
Belgium: Full coverage
Netherlands: Full coverage
Luxembourg: Full coverage
Italy: Full coverage
Austria: Full coverage
Switzerland: Full coverage
Liechtenstein: Full coverage
Spain: Alicante, Badalona, Barcelona, Bilbao, Donostia-San Sebastián ,
Elche, Granada, L'Hospitalet de Llobregat, Madrid, Málaga, Sabadell,
Sevilla, Valencia , Vitoria-Gasteiz, Zaragoza
Portugal: Albufeira, Faro, Lisboa, Porto, Setúbal, Andorra
Garmin Upgrade Coupon:
To receive your MetroGuideTM or Roads & Recreation TM upgrade, at the
preferential
rate, please return this COMPLETED form and your ORIGINAL METROGUIDE TM OR
ROADS & RECREATION TM CD to the address below (forms received without the
original CD s will not be accepted)
PLEASE PRINT YOUR DETAILS CLEARLY.
Upgrade coupon .
Please see www.garmin.com/cartography/mapsource.html
for a full description of the MapSource product line.
As an existing MetroGuide TM or Roads & Recreation TM product owner, for a
European country, you can
purchase the new European MetroGuide TM or Roads & Recreation TM product
(depending on your original
product) at the preferential rate given below
PLEASE SELECT ONE OF THE FOLLOWING OPTIONS:
Price includes shipping, handling and VAT @ 17.5%
(VAT is not applicable for delivery to non-EEC countries).
For delivery outside Europe, Africa and the Middle East, there will be an
additional £20 shipping fee.
Incomplete requests will not be accepted or returned. This includes
incomplete coupons, missing CD s
or incomplete payment method.
Acceptable methods of payment (Please do NOT send cash):
Cheque or money orders, made payable to GARMIN (Europe) Ltd ;
Credit card - VISA, Mastercard or Switch:
Card No. : _____________________________ Expires _______ (Switch issue no.
___)
I authorise GARMIN (Europe) Ltd to debit £47.00 from the above account.
Signed : ___________________________________ Date : ____________________
Name : ______________________________
Address : ______________________________
______________________________
______________________________
______________________________
Phone No. : ______________________________
E-mail address : ______________________________
I have returned a MetroGuide TM CD, please send me the European MetroGuide
TM CD for
£47.00 (including VAT) [£40.00 to non-EEC countries]
I have returned a Roads & Recreation TM CD, please send me the European
Roads &
Recreation TM CD for £47.00 (including VAT) [£40.00 to non-EEC countries]
Please return this completed form,
method of payment plus your original
CD to:
GARMIN (Europe) Ltd
MapSource Upgrade Offer
Unit 5
The Quadrangle
Abbey Park
Romsey
Hampshire
SO51 9AQ
UK
If you have any questions about this offer, please e-mail to:
upgradeof...@garmin.com
This coupon and upgrade price offer is only valid directly from GARMIN
(Europe) Ltd. Please allow 8 to 12 weeks for delivery. Continental
orders shipped via standard DHL, UK orders via Interlink. Cheques, money
orders and credit cards will not be processed until items are
shipped. This offer may not be combined with any others. GARMIN (Europe) Ltd
is not responsible for any incomplete requests, loss in the
mail, or any consequential damages and does recommend keeping a copy of your
upgrade coupon for your records. Offer only valid from
GARMIN (Europe) Ltd. Offer expires 31st August 2002. This offer is limited
to 1 CD ROM per upgrade offer.
GARMIN (Europe) Ltd reserves the right to rescind and/or change this offer
at any time
.........................................................
End qoute Garmin website
Sorry for all this text but since the website is down I hope the group
forgives me...................
Regards
Hakan Mansson
Hakan Mansson
"Hans-Georg Michna" <hans-georgN...@michna.com> wrote in message
news:hods2ucabdorflagd...@4ax.com...
> incredible! I would have lost a bet ...
Well we are in a very large group I think.....
> Now I have a few questions.
>
Read the reply to Hamish, I posted what's on Garmins site, for the more
specific details I think I have to wait until CD is delivered.....
Regards
Hakan Mansson
Gilles Kohl [MVP]
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 23:08:12 +0100, "Hakan Mansson"
<h.ma...@telia.com> wrote:
>This is from Garmin website: (Currently offline....)
Seems online again (11:30 pm GMT)
>All of our European MetroGuides have now been combined and updated into this
>single MetroGuide Europe CD which covers all of Western Europe. In addition
>to the updated map data, we've added enhanced features such as automatic
>routing capabilities on the PC.
Wow, sounds almost too good to be true. I have several Metroguides,
guess I can only use one for the upgrade coupon, eh ? :-)
Hope there's no "unlock code" scheme though, that is, you get the new
CD back, and an unlock code for the region your old CD was for, and
are allowed to buy the rest ? This would put us back to square one, of
course. Doesn't sound like it from the website info though.
Regards,
Gilles.
Hakan Mansson
From: "Gilles Kohl [MVP]"
<gilles@_deletethisincludingunderlines_compuserve.com>
>
> Wow, sounds almost too good to be true. I have several Metroguides,
> guess I can only use one for the upgrade coupon, eh ? :-)
>
>>Offer only valid from GARMIN (Europe) Ltd. Offer expires 31st August
2002.This offer is limited
>>to 1 CD ROM per upgrade offer.
Gilles,
Well, I suppose You have some friends who could buy the rest and upgrade and
then all gets the benefit..............
I don't think there will be any unlock codes for MG/RR, I think Garmin has
understood that Europe is almost as integrated as the US.
They have probably got another supplier or a better deal on the map data and
made a market choise.
It is really nice when the voice of the customer is heard and hopefully I
can get rid of M$ Autoroute..................
Regards
Hakan
Gilles Kohl [MVP]
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 01:08:28 +0100, "Hakan Mansson"
<h.ma...@telia.com> wrote:
>Gilles,
>
>Well, I suppose You have some friends who could buy the rest and upgrade and
>then all gets the benefit..............
Yes - I guess the value of original MapSource CD just went up :-)
>I don't think there will be any unlock codes for MG/RR, I think Garmin has
>understood that Europe is almost as integrated as the US.
>They have probably got another supplier or a better deal on the map data and
>made a market choise.
Hopefully. I'm going to send them an email as ask (I also intend to
ask if they need the entire package back, the CD with jewelcase, or
just the CDROM - might save a few Euro on postage)
>It is really nice when the voice of the customer is heard and hopefully I
>can get rid of M$ Autoroute..................
Definitely - I won't get rid of MapPoint 2002 Europe though - if it
could xfer maps to the eMap, I'm not sure which application I'd get
rid of, ahem. (I rather like the interface, speed, and look and feel
of the MS mapping products - for instance, I wish MapSource had its
address search feature)
Regards,
Gilles.
FrankB
<h.ma...@telia.com> wrote:
--
>I don't think there will be any unlock codes for MG/RR, I think Garmin has
>understood that Europe is almost as integrated as the US.
>They have probably got another supplier or a better deal on the map data and
>made a market choise.
>It is really nice when the voice of the customer is heard and hopefully I
>can get rid of M$ Autoroute..................
>
>Regards
>
>Hakan
>
Before you get too excited - I got the new Metroguide Europe with my
Garmin V the other week.
It came with a voucher for an unlock code (obtained online) for one
region, in my case for UK only.
Is it the same for the US versions (with autorouting) as I'm planning
on a tour around the mid-west next year.
Frank
Hakan Mansson
"FrankB" <n1...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:fjbu2usjbf7qeq75d...@4ax.com...
> Before you get too excited - I got the new Metroguide Europe with my
> Garmin V the other week.
>
> It came with a voucher for an unlock code (obtained online) for one
> region, in my case for UK only.
>
Are You sure it wasn't the City Select Europe ? Normally this is bundled
with Garmin V.
Regards
Hakan
Frank Bradley
<h.ma...@telia.com> wrote:
>
>Are You sure it wasn't the City Select Europe ? Normally this is bundled
>with Garmin V.
>
>Regards
>
>Hakan
>
Yes, you're right, I beg your pardon for confusing the issue.
- it's European City Select V4.00.
I should've checked the box first !! Doh!
However, it does cover addresses and all the streets in the UK, with
autorouting.
What, then, is Metroguide? I've looked on the (now working) Garmin
site and if I had to choose between City select, Metroguide and R&R
I'd be at a loss.
Best regards,
Frank (N1)
Hakan Mansson
"Gilles Kohl [MVP]" <gilles@_deletethisincludingunderlines_compuserve.com>
wrote in message news:kiut2uov6o7f71v1s...@4ax.com...
> Definitely - I won't get rid of MapPoint 2002 Europe though - if it
> could xfer maps to the eMap, I'm not sure which application I'd get
> rid of, ahem. (I rather like the interface, speed, and look and feel
> of the MS mapping products - for instance, I wish MapSource had its
> address search feature)
Gilles,
Could You in a few word summarize (or supply a link) the added value of Map
Point 2002 versus AR2001 in connection with a GPS.
I have checked MS site but don't get the grip of the features apart from all
these statistics and "corporate" stuff.
I have an eMap and I use it together with AR2001/MetroGuide when traveling
around Europe in my RV.
It's a bit bulky to create routes for download so if Map Point is easier I
sure should appreciate the information.
Does it for instance include Camp-sites, parking-places?
Regards
Hakan Mansson
Gilles Kohl [MVP]
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:41:24 +0100, "Hakan Mansson"
<h.ma...@telia.com> wrote:
>Gilles,
>
>Could You in a few word summarize (or supply a link) the added value of Map
>Point 2002 versus AR2001 in connection with a GPS.
Hmm, we may have a misunderstanding here - my point was that I like
the UI and speed of MapPoint (or Autoroute or S&T), their map
presentation, fuzzy search etc. vs. MapSource, and if they did what
MapSource can do in connection with the Garmin GPS (be able to send
maps to the GPS, xfer waypoints, routes, tracks etc), I wouldn't see
much reason to use MapSource any more. Out of the box, both Autoroute
as well as MapPoint have very limited GPS functionality - moving map
is basically all that is supported.
>I have an eMap and I use it together with AR2001/MetroGuide when traveling
>around Europe in my RV.
>It's a bit bulky to create routes for download so if Map Point is easier I
>sure should appreciate the information.
>Does it for instance include Camp-sites, parking-places?
The map and POI data, as well as the basic UI and functionality are
the same for MapPoint 2002 Europe and Autoroute (respectively for
MapPoint 2002 and Streets and Trips 2002).
One difference between MapPoint and Autoroute is - as you mentioned -
the business mapping and data analysis features - beyond the
capabilities (functionality) to do this stuff, MapPoint also includes
demographic data to help with this.
As far as I'm concerned, the biggest difference is that MapPoint is
programmable - it has an object model and can be "remote-controlled"
via automation, it is available as an ActiveX control to integrate
mapping into your own apps, and it supports Add-ins that allow to add
your own commands to its menu. For example, an add-in called AGPS
exists that adds quite a few bells and whistles to the moving map
functionality.
This being said, there is a steep price difference between
S&T/Autoroute and the two MapPoint versions - the latter definitely
target the business user at Office range prices.
Regards,
Gilles.
MattKelch
See:
http://www.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/MGEuro.html
Available in January. USD175.
Hakan Mansson
"Gilles Kohl [MVP]" <gilles@_deletethisincludingunderlines_compuserve.com>
wrote in message news:3pru2u83ffo2mdsg7...@4ax.com...
>
> Hmm, we may have a misunderstanding here - my point was that I like
> the UI and speed of MapPoint (or Autoroute or S&T), their map
> presentation, fuzzy search etc. vs. MapSource, and if they did what
> MapSource can do in connection with the Garmin GPS (be able to send
> maps to the GPS, xfer waypoints, routes, tracks etc), I wouldn't see
> much reason to use MapSource any more. Out of the box, both Autoroute
> as well as MapPoint have very limited GPS functionality - moving map
> is basically all that is supported.
Agree, and thank's for the rest of your info Gilles, I'll wait for the
Garmin CD.........maybe they hired some M$ programmers....:))
Regards
Hakan
Hans-Georg Michna
>Germany: Full coverage
Hakan,
fine! It seems we have now almost reached the next stage where
all streets and roads are in the map.
Next step: all roads in the whole world.