Wish List for post-SA firmware upgrades
Coordinor
off to the manufacturers.
1. Ability to record 3D tracks, lon, lat, altitude. Useful for hang gliders,
balloonists, stunt fliers.
2. Ability to record 4D tracks, lon, lat, alt, speed. Useful for same as
above but also runners, cyclists, and other competitors.
3. Increased zoom levels on maps, down to 100 feet per screen width.
4. More units of measurement, feet, yards, meters.
5. Ability to project waypoints in feet, yards, meters.
6. Ability to record 6D waypoints, lat, lon, alt, speed, time, date.
7. Higher position sampling rate for higher resolution at speed.
Please add your wishes to the list:
Thanks,
Coordi
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Dale DePriest
>
> Lets all work on a wish list for post-SA firmware upgrades and send the list
> off to the manufacturers.
>
> 1. Ability to record 3D tracks, lon, lat, altitude. Useful for hang gliders,
> balloonists, stunt fliers.
>
> 2. Ability to record 4D tracks, lon, lat, alt, speed. Useful for same as
> above but also runners, cyclists, and other competitors.
Garmin records time, this can compute speed and I believe is a better
solution that instantaneous speed at one point.
> 3. Increased zoom levels on maps, down to 100 feet per screen width.
This would probably cause folks to see more resolution than they have
accuracy which would cause them to complain more. You are asking for
1/2 foot per pixel or even less which I think is excessive.
> 4. More units of measurement, feet, yards, meters.
I like the III+ method of dropping to feet when close in. I wish all
Garmins would do this.
> 5. Ability to project waypoints in feet, yards, meters.
>
> 6. Ability to record 6D waypoints, lat, lon, alt, speed, time, date.
What does speed have to do with a waypoint? How would you use this
data?
Units are available that do all of the others.
> 7. Higher position sampling rate for higher resolution at speed.
Are you asking for updates at faster than 1 second? You can get this
already if you are willing to pay for it.
> Please add your wishes to the list:
>
> Thanks,
>
> Coordi
>
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Dave
"Dale DePriest" <Dal...@cwnet.com> wrote in message
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>
> Garmin records time, this can compute speed and I believe is a
better
> solution that instantaneous speed at one point.
Does it record time at each trackpoint? To what resolution?
>
> > 3. Increased zoom levels on maps, down to 100 feet per
screen width.
>
> This would probably cause folks to see more resolution than
they have
> accuracy which would cause them to complain more. You are
asking for
> 1/2 foot per pixel or even less which I think is excessive.
>
It would be good for analyzing the accuracy of a stored waypoint.
>
> What does speed have to do with a waypoint? How would you use
this data?
On a boat one could record the location of the strongest current.
> Units are available that do all of the others.
>
> > 7. Higher position sampling rate for higher resolution at
speed.
>
> Are you asking for updates at faster than 1 second? You can
get this
> already if you are willing to pay for it.
>
I want a free firmware update that will make my cheap unit do
all that and more, ok!
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really comes down to a proximity alarm with reversed sense - alarm
when outside the circle. The point is that an anchored boat wants to
stay inside the circle whose center is at the anchor, not a circle
centered at the current boat position.
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Paul Fox
:
: 6. Ability to record 6D waypoints, lat, lon, alt, speed, time, date.
i wonder -- how does one _return_ to a recorded waypoint whose
coordinates include the time?
:-)
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paul fox, pgf-...@foxharp.boston.ma.us
Dale DePriest
been asked for for a long time. It not smarter since no anchor alarm
exists in Garmin units except the 48. This gets specific to Garmin
however has other manufactures have anchor alarms already.
Dale
--
Dale DePriest
Dave wrote:
>
> "Dale DePriest" <Dal...@cwnet.com> wrote in message
> news:391C1F46...@cwnet.com...
>
> >
> > Garmin records time, this can compute speed and I believe is a
> better
> > solution that instantaneous speed at one point.
>
> Does it record time at each trackpoint? To what resolution?
I am not sure but gpss can play back a Garmin tracklog directly and it
certainly shows the exact speed to 1 mph during playback. If you upload
a tracklog into the Garmin this data is zeroed out. Some glider
competitions depend on the behavior to prove the log is not altered.
>
> > > 3. Increased zoom levels on maps, down to 100 feet per
> screen width.
> >
> > This would probably cause folks to see more resolution than
> they have
> > accuracy which would cause them to complain more. You are
> asking for
> > 1/2 foot per pixel or even less which I think is excessive.
> >
>
> It would be good for analyzing the accuracy of a stored waypoint.
You can enter a waypoint down to 1 meter accuracy today using utm
coordinates. Anything else is less accurate. You want to measure
a pixle resolution of 1/2 foot for data that can only be entered to
a resolution of 1 meter and can't be set by the gps to an accuracy of
more than 2 or 3 meters even with dgps. See what I mean by misleading
resolution of the display. You would only be disappointed.
> >
> > What does speed have to do with a waypoint? How would you use
> this data?
>
> On a boat one could record the location of the strongest current.
How would it do this unless it totally stopped and drifted for awhile.
Doesn't sound too useful to me YMMV.
> > Units are available that do all of the others.
> >
> > > 7. Higher position sampling rate for higher resolution at
> speed.
> >
> > Are you asking for updates at faster than 1 second? You can
> get this
> > already if you are willing to pay for it.
> >
>
> I want a free firmware update that will make my cheap unit do
> all that and more, ok!
Sure, that's ok as long as you realize you won't get it since the
horsepower of the unit is already taxed. Of course you could cut the
battery life to 1/3 of what it is now and get better performance like
Lowrance units do.
Dale
John Galvin
If it was in Lowrance's marketing plan, they could easily produce a GM100
using the 3.3 volt version of the Zodiac chipset, rather than the 5 volt
version. This would cut the power consumption to, at or below Garmin III+
levels. Garmin have, unfortunately not seen fit to take marketing advantage
of longer battery life. Newer Garmin models (eMap, eTrex), have nearly as
short a battery life as the GM100. Of course, this is mostly due to only
having 2 cells instead of 4. I believe that the newer Magellan's run sub 15
hrs on a pair of alkalines also. I think that the future is for GPS units
to have a battery life of 12-15 hrs. One day, Garmin owners will will
lament the passing of models with 20+ hr battery life.
BTW, the last set of alkalines I ran in my GM100 went 10hrs and 23 minutes.
I don't think any Garmin can do triple that, without using power saving
mode. I do have to hand it to Garmin, for having a more sophisticated power
saving mode, though.
John Galvin
Dale DePriest wrote in message <391C6E7E...@cwnet.com>...
Coordinor
something and whether its a valid wish or not. Why don't you use your brains
to think of what you would wish for and leave my wishes alone!! Obviously if
my wishes can't be implemented in the current range of available units, maybe
those wishes could be saved and added to the next generation units.
What wishes would you have for the next generation of 64Mb, 300Mhz, 30ma
GPS's?
Coordi
"Coordinor" <news...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Lets all work on a wish list for post-SA firmware upgrades and send the
list
> off to the manufacturers.
>
> 1. Ability to record 3D tracks, lon, lat, altitude. Useful for hang
gliders,
> balloonists, stunt fliers.
>
> 2. Ability to record 4D tracks, lon, lat, alt, speed. Useful for same as
> above but also runners, cyclists, and other competitors.
>
> 3. Increased zoom levels on maps, down to 100 feet per screen width.
>
> 4. More units of measurement, feet, yards, meters.
>
> 5. Ability to project waypoints in feet, yards, meters.
>
> 6. Ability to record 6D waypoints, lat, lon, alt, speed, time, date.
>
> 7. Higher position sampling rate for higher resolution at speed.
>
Dseibold
Hans-Georg Michna
>DUDE's ! This is a Wish List, it is none of your business why I'm wishing for
>something and whether its a valid wish or not. Why don't you use your brains
>to think of what you would wish for and leave my wishes alone!! Obviously if
>my wishes can't be implemented in the current range of available units, maybe
>those wishes could be saved and added to the next generation units.
>
>What wishes would you have for the next generation of 64Mb, 300Mhz, 30ma
>GPS's?
Coordi,
it may be wiser though to check in a discussion here whether any
of your wishes has a chance of being implemented.
Hans-Georg
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Coordinor
implemented...
Make a Wish!!
"Hans-Georg Michna" <Hans_Georg_Mich...@csi.com> wrote in message
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Mike Russell
From: "Paul Fox" <pgf-...@foxharp.boston.ma.us>
> Coordinor <news...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> :
> : 6. Ability to record 6D waypoints, lat, lon, alt, speed, time, date.
>
> i wonder -- how does one _return_ to a recorded waypoint whose
> coordinates include the time?
You mean returning to a point in the past?
For that we would need a Republican instead of a Democratic president.
John Miller
> "Hans-Georg Michna" <Hans_Georg_Mich...@csi.com> wrote in
message
> news:j7pphsskmetvqmbqf...@4ax.com...
> > of your wishes has a chance of being implemented.
> I suppose You are the one to determine if a wish can or cannot be
> implemented...
> Make a Wish!!
O.K. -- I wish you would listen more and talk less. This is a discussion
group, and if you put forth ideas, you shouldn't be taken aback if people
want to talk about them.
Tom Raynor
It's really as simple as voting. If GPS manufactures are reading, knowing what
we all want most may help them decide which features to include next.
To me, the biggest change post-SA is that altitude now means something.
Certainly including it in waypoints is going to become a competitive necessity.
After that, my next favorite is the suggestion to allow other cursors. The
cross-hair idea is a great one.
- Tom
Phan...@aol.com
>> I earlier observed that a smarter anchor alarm would be nice. This
>> really comes down to a proximity alarm with reversed sense - alarm
>> when outside the circle.
On Fri, 12 May 2000 13:42:08 -0700, Dale DePriest <Dal...@cwnet.com>
wrote:
>Agreed, the 48 has this and I wish it were in the 12XL as well. It has
>been asked for for a long time. It not smarter since no anchor alarm
>exists in Garmin units except the 48.
I thought I was the only one seriously wishing for this upgrade (for a
G12CX though). Is it physically possible for Garmin to do this with a
firmware upgrade?
Also, is it possible for Garmin to offer a swap of the built in
database? I have no use for my "cities" database. I'd like to swap it
for the "nav-aids" like the one in the G48.
I know I can have my wish granted by simply buying an additional GPS
(the G48), but I'd rather have all the features I want (if possible)
in one unit instead of having to lug two of 'em around and linking 'em
together somehow.
In case you're wondering, I chose the 12CX over the 48 because of the
additional waypoint capacity and the "folder" type waypoint storage. I
didn't give the anchor alarm as much weight then because of SA.
Different situation now though. It'd be a tougher decision.
Rick
Mike Andreas
Tom Raynor <tomr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> After that, my next favorite is the suggestion to allow other cursors. The
> cross-hair idea is a great one.
Expanding a bit on the cross-haired cursor, perhaps it could look
something like:
|
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|
where the arrow would point in the direction of travel, and also
shrink and grow depending on your velocity. Would be a lot
nicer than that big fat triangle.
Mike Andreas
reply-to enhanced for the spammers, no 'd' in my ISP's name
Dale DePriest
a long time since they have released any new technology allowing others
to overtake and surpass their lead. It is not fair to compare a 2
battery
solution with a 4 battery solution for battery life although the etrex
claims twice the Lowrance battery life using battery save mode with half
the batteries. A pretty phenomenal feat and still get great
performance. The approach used by Lowrance for their battery save
feature is inferior to Garmins making it unusable on most conditions.
Of course, Garmin's solution has its limits also but it is pretty much
state of the art in power management. Of course a good working battery
save mode is need to achieve the longest battery life.
It is easy to keep 22+ battery life (my own measured results on my G-12)
as long as folks want to put up with the weight of 4 batteries.
Personally I would prefer it since changing batteries is a hassle
particularly since they always go out at inopportune times.
Dale
Dale DePriest
Phan...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Marc Auslander wrote:
> >> I earlier observed that a smarter anchor alarm would be nice. This
> >> really comes down to a proximity alarm with reversed sense - alarm
> >> when outside the circle.
>
> On Fri, 12 May 2000 13:42:08 -0700, Dale DePriest <Dal...@cwnet.com>
> wrote:
> >Agreed, the 48 has this and I wish it were in the 12XL as well. It has
> >been asked for for a long time. It not smarter since no anchor alarm
> >exists in Garmin units except the 48.
>
> I thought I was the only one seriously wishing for this upgrade (for a
> G12CX though). Is it physically possible for Garmin to do this with a
> firmware upgrade?
Yes, as a matter of fact the 12XL and the 48 have exactly the same code
in them. It checks to see what its called and disables the anchor
alarm.
The Magellan units have this so perhaps a little competitive complaining
will get it inot your 12CX.
> Also, is it possible for Garmin to offer a swap of the built in
> database? I have no use for my "cities" database. I'd like to swap it
> for the "nav-aids" like the one in the G48.
Hmm, I understand, at one time, Garmin was going to make this database
updateable but then decided not to. It is very possible it is in a
rewritable rom but I don't know for sure. It was beginning to look like
the 48 would never get an update either but Garmin finally came through
on the US Waterways and Lights cdrom with a 48 update for navaids so
there is always hope. That is a great mid-life kicker for the 48.
> I know I can have my wish granted by simply buying an additional GPS
> (the G48), but I'd rather have all the features I want (if possible)
> in one unit instead of having to lug two of 'em around and linking 'em
> together somehow.
>
> In case you're wondering, I chose the 12CX over the 48 because of the
> additional waypoint capacity and the "folder" type waypoint storage. I
> didn't give the anchor alarm as much weight then because of SA.
> Different situation now though. It'd be a tougher decision.
I really like the folder waypoint management feature also. I wish they
would back that into the other units. It makes sense even if you only
have 500 waypoints IMHO.
> Rick
If you could get the best features of all the Garmin units in one unit
it would kick butt!
Dale DePriest
smaller icons as well. Some of them are really too big and overpower
the screen. The velocity readout should be a simple change and just for
cases of momentary SV changes it should probably still exist but should
be around 1 kmph instead of 1 mph.
Dale
Brian Morrison wrote:
>
> On Fri, 12 May 2000 08:12:06 -0700, Dale DePriest wrote:
>
> >> 3. Increased zoom levels on maps, down to 100 feet per screen width.
> >
> >This would probably cause folks to see more resolution than they have
> >accuracy which would cause them to complain more. You are asking for
> >1/2 foot per pixel or even less which I think is excessive.
>
> Agreed, all I ask is for a cursor that isn't 60 feet long when at the
> 200ft scale or below on a III+, that and a velocity readout that works
> below 1mph.
>
> Actually, I'd like to see the cursor be made hollow at small scales,
> with the white dot in the centre becoming black, that would work.
>
> --
> Brian Morrison ne...@fenrir.org.uk
> to reply, change address from 'news' to 'bdm'
> ...Grim faced, cold as fishwife's fingers, he snatched from the wall
> the sickle-sharp boar tusks he used for defacing Readers' Digest....
Allen Oliver
<snip>
>
> It is easy to keep 22+ battery life (my own measured results on my G-12)
> as long as folks want to put up with the weight of 4 batteries.
> Personally I would prefer it since changing batteries is a hassle
> particularly since they always go out at inopportune times.
It also means that you don't need to be particular about which type of
alkaline batteries you use. With a life of 22+ hours, the current drain does
not merit the more expensive batteries designed for high current drain. You
know, the type that claim to be for "hi-tech" devices. It's difficult to
imagine any consumer device more hi-tech than GPS, but the devices I use
that most benefit from high current drain alkalines are my 2xAA and AAA
Maglites!
--
Allen Oliver
no.spam=dial.pipex.co.uk
Allen Oliver
> > >been asked for for a long time. It not smarter since no anchor alarm
> > >exists in Garmin units except the 48.
> >
> > I thought I was the only one seriously wishing for this upgrade (for a
> > G12CX though). Is it physically possible for Garmin to do this with a
> > firmware upgrade?
>
> Yes, as a matter of fact the 12XL and the 48 have exactly the same code
> in them. It checks to see what its called and disables the anchor
> alarm.
> The Magellan units have this so perhaps a little competitive complaining
> will get it inot your 12CX.
>
What good would this be on a receiver without an audible alarm?
--
Allen Oliver
no.spam=dial.pipex.co.uk
Ofer LaOr
I guess the best thing is to have the option if using either the triangle or
your cursor, depending on scale (e.g., below 2Km scale, for example).
"Mike Andreas" <mand...@dearthlink.net> wrote in message
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Dale DePriest
the 12CX both have audible alarms?
Dale
--
Allen Oliver
> Well the light would come on :-). Why is this a problem, the 12XL and
> the 12CX both have audible alarms?
Sorry. I thought the 12XL was the only one in the 12 familly with an audible
alarm. This hasn't been a very good day for thainking stright.
--
Allen Oliver
no.spam=dial.pipex.co.uk
Phan...@aol.com
>>>>>I earlier observed that a smarter anchor alarm would be nice. This
>>>>>really comes down to a proximity alarm with reversed sense - alarm
>>>>>when outside the circle.
Dale DePriest wrote:
>>>>Agreed, the 48 has this and I wish it were in the 12XL as well.
Then I wrote:
>>>Is it physically possible for Garmin to do this with a firmware upgrade?
Dale DePriest wrote:
>>Yes, as a matter of fact the 12XL and the 48 have exactly the same code
>>in them. It checks to see what its called and disables the anchor
>>alarm.
>>The Magellan units have this so perhaps a little competitive complaining
>>will get it inot your 12CX.
Who (what name and address) do I competitively complain to? I'd be
pleased as punch to start right away! :-)
Allen Oliver wrote:
>What good would this be on a receiver without an audible alarm?
None I guess.... but a 12CX has several alarms. I think a 12XL does
too. What receiver are you referring to?
Dale DePriest wrote:
>If you could get the best features of all the Garmin units in one unit
>it would kick butt!
ok... well there's one for the *hardware* wish list.
Next time I buy, I'd like a personalized (customizable) GPS.
New in the box, it would have no features at all. But I'd get to pick
and choose which features and databases I want and which ones I don't
want. It could be programmed in the store specifically for me and my
intended purposes (sort of like choosing which programs you want to
put on a PC). That way I'd get everything I want without paying for
features I don't want and don't need.
Rick
Dale DePriest
be designed to download the correct features based on a menu selection.
The software would do a final link and download exactly what you need.
It would require a specialized software developement but certainly
doable.
You could have some streamlined choices such as beginner, mariner,
hiker, etc. that would pick a good subset and then later as you became
more knowledgeable you could reload with a new configuration. Only the
streamlined choices would be documented as user guides but each option
would be documented as a reference section. You could then make up the
manual
as well.
You would buy a hardware configuration that contained the button
configuration, mapping or non mapping, color display, shape, antenna
preference, etc. The unit would come preloaded with one of the
streamlined choices and you could then change it if you wished or if
your needs changed.
Dale
Phan...@aol.com wrote:
> ok... well there's one for the *hardware* wish list.
> Next time I buy, I'd like a personalized (customizable) GPS.
> New in the box, it would have no features at all. But I'd get to pick
> and choose which features and databases I want and which ones I don't
> want. It could be programmed in the store specifically for me and my
> intended purposes (sort of like choosing which programs you want to
> put on a PC). That way I'd get everything I want without paying for
> features I don't want and don't need.
>
> Rick
--
Phan...@aol.com
>Why for the hardware wishlist?
The hardware we have now (my 12CX, your 12XL) isn't capable of being
all things to all people, even with new software. To be totally
programmable and completely customizable... well... that'll take new
hardware. Thus, the hardware wish list.
Rick
Phan...@aol.com
>To be totally
>programmable and completely customizable... well... that'll take new
>hardware. Thus, the hardware wish list.
Meanwhile..., I'd *still* like a firmware upgrade that would put an
anchor alarm and a nav-aids database on my 12CX :-)
Rick
John Galvin
Even the most power hungry GPS around, the Garmin StretPilot ColorMap,
doesn't draw enough current to significantly benefit from these new
alkalines, that are supposed to be for high tech devices. You have to get
up into the 1 amp region, before the lower internal impedance does much
good. They don't necessarily say it, but these new alkalines were
specifically designed to address the digital camera application. Even
there, they are still pathetic, compared to NiMhs and maybe even Nicads.
But then again, alkalines were totally unusable, in many digital cameras,
before these new ones came out. They're now, just usable, as a backup to
NiMhs for digital camera use. Sure beats the cost of the Li/Fe AAs as a
backup battery.
BTW, here in the states, the 2 largest battery manufacturers have taken
different approaches to marketing the new lower internal impedance
alkalines. Duracell continues to make their old formulation and charges a
premium for the new formula batteries. Energizer, on the other hand, simply
switched their entire production over to their new formula and kept the
price the same.
John Galvin
Allen Oliver wrote in message <8fk5rg$928$2...@lure.pipex.net>...
>"Dale DePriest" <Dal...@cwnet.com> wrote in message
V C Soosay
I would like the 'Route' line to blink. This would make it easier to
identify your route on a non-colour screen. This can't be difficult to add
and should not slow down the display significantly.
Regards,
Chris
Paul Fox
here's one, though it's unrelated to post-SA. i could have used it
before, too.
the moving map display on the GPS-3 keeps your current location centered.
given that i'm usually more interested in what's ahead of me than what's
behind me, i'd like it to position the map so that 2/3 or 3/4 of the
screen's area is used for coverage in my general direction of travel, with
some time-lag averaging to shift it around as i change direction.
i'd also like an easier way of scrolling the displayed area than by having
to bump the cursor up against the margin. a true set of scroll controls,
that kept the cursor centered, would be more useful.
paul
=---------------------
paul fox, pgf-...@foxharp.boston.ma.us
Dseibold
Peter Rathmann
> yep this is good
>
> >the moving map display on the GPS-3 keeps your current location centered.
> >given that i'm usually more interested in what's ahead of me than what's
> >behind me, i'd like it to position the map so that 2/3 or 3/4 of the
> >screen's area is used for coverage in my general direction of travel,
The eMap already does this if the map is set to 'Track Up.' I thought the III+
had that feature as well.
GSW
As for being able to select features based on needs and only load
the features you need... that'd be great... However these companys
all play the marketing game, and if they allowed the users to select
the features they wanted at little or no cost, they would have to
put their marketing departments on lay off... and I dont' think you'll
see this anytime soon.
In article <391DC63A...@cwnet.com>,
Mike Teague
it will do pretty much exactly what you are asking..
Paul Fox wrote in message ...
>
>here's one, though it's unrelated to post-SA. i could have used it
>before, too.
>
>the moving map display on the GPS-3 keeps your current location centered.
>given that i'm usually more interested in what's ahead of me than what's
>behind me, i'd like it to position the map so that 2/3 or 3/4 of the
>screen's area is used for coverage in my general direction of travel, with
>some time-lag averaging to shift it around as i change direction.
>
Phan...@aol.com
>As for being able to select features based on needs and only load
>the features you need... that'd be great... However these companys
>all play the marketing game, and if they allowed the users to select
>the features they wanted at little or no cost,
I wasn't wishing for a freebie. I think that if people could get
*exactly* what they want, without the frills and extras they *don't*
want, they'd be willing to pay for it. Especially if they knew they
could change their minds and upgrade/downgrade/change/swap/whatever
later (even for an additional charge).
> they would have to
>put their marketing departments on lay off... and I dont' think you'll
>see this anytime soon.
Sooo... give 'em jobs in the Production and Shipping Departments. With
the increased sales volume, they'll be needing some extra help in
those areas anyway ;-)
Rick
Michael Hart
> Lets all work on a wish list for post-SA firmware upgrades and send the
list
> off to the manufacturers.
>
A Garmin 12/12XL map view of a hundred feet verus the .2mi.
Yes it's for fishing...
Dale DePriest
sold as a top of the line unit providing value added for the user and
profit for the manufacturer. Cheap units would still have a place of
course.
Dale
GSW wrote:
>
> I agree that software update would be much preferable to firmware.
>
> As for being able to select features based on needs and only load
> the features you need... that'd be great... However these companys
> all play the marketing game, and if they allowed the users to select
> the features they wanted at little or no cost, they would have to
> put their marketing departments on lay off... and I dont' think you'll
> see this anytime soon.
>
Wolfgang WEITZEL
1.
A posibility to find the median position, if the GPS is not moved.
2.
A subpage to the Odometer-page, which gives accumulated climb and fall and
the ratio, very much alike the data given for speed and distance.
Bothe could be done by updating software (hopefully).
Sorry for the poor English!
Wolf
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Dale DePriest
Wolfgang WEITZEL wrote:
>
> There are 2 features I am missing (eMap):
> 1.
> A posibility to find the median position, if the GPS is not moved.
I am not exactly sure what you are looking for here. Could you
elaborate?
> 2.
> A subpage to the Odometer-page, which gives accumulated climb and fall and
> the ratio, very much alike the data given for speed and distance.
The new etrex summit is supposed to have a page like this for use with
its built in altimeter. Perhaps this design could find its way into
other
units. I really wonder if this data would be useful based on hiking in
mountain areas with poor coverage. Most folks don't need this in wide
open areas but perhaps bikers would. It would be interesting to hook a
gps
to a palm top unit and analyze a profile like this. It would make a
good program for a palm or winCE machine anyway.
Dale
allen_...@my-deja.com
1.production.compuserve.com>,
Your reply didn't appear on my news server. I
only came across it by accident while browsing
dejanews.
The Duracell/Energiser situation is the same in
the UK, and the Energisers are frequently cheaper
than the old formulation Duracells.
I did do a comparison between discharge times
between Energiser and a Supermarket brand. in a
12XL there was little difference. The Energisers
did last about half an hour longer but this could
easily have been explained by different operating
conditions.
In a 2xAA Maglite, there was a noticable
difference. It was a while ago that I did the
test, but I seem to remember the Supermarket
brand lasting about 3.5 hours whilst the
Energisers lasted about 5 hours. Not enough to
pay for the difference in price, but worth it for
the convenience.
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Before you buy.
Peter Rathmann
> Wolfgang WEITZEL wrote:
> >
> > There are 2 features I am missing (eMap):
> > 1.
> > A posibility to find the median position, if the GPS is not moved.
>
> I am not exactly sure what you are looking for here. Could you
> elaborate?
I wasn't sure what was requested here either. You can already hit ENTer to set a
waypoint at your current location and then hit MENU to select averaging of the
position.
> > 2.
> > A subpage to the Odometer-page, which gives accumulated climb and fall and
> > the ratio, very much alike the data given for speed and distance.
>
> The new etrex summit is supposed to have a page like this for use with
> its built in altimeter. Perhaps this design could find its way into
> other
> units. I really wonder if this data would be useful based on hiking in
> mountain areas with poor coverage. Most folks don't need this in wide
> open areas but perhaps bikers would. It would be interesting to hook a
> gps
> to a palm top unit and analyze a profile like this.
I've been generating elevation profiles of bike rides since SA was turned off. I
download the track data from my eMap and load it into Excel to generate altitude
vs. distance plots. It works pretty well, but there are still some glitches in
the data when the unit loses 3D track for awhile and then suddenly shows a big
altitude jump when it locks on again. Reception is frequently not the best on the
more mountainous roads with obstructions from rock walls and overhanging trees.
Cumulating total altitude gain would also require some filtering of the data,
otherwise the little random errors when on fairly level stretches could add
considerably to the reported total. Avocet filters their barometric altimeter
data by requiring a minimum change of 30 feet before adding to the cumulative
climb data. Something similar would need to be done with GPS data for accurate
totals.
Hans-Georg Michna
>I download the track data from my eMap and load it into Excel to generate altitude
>vs. distance plots.
Peter,
which software do you use for that? Sorry if you said it before
and I missed it.
Hans-Georg
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Peter Rathmann
> Peter Rathmann <prat...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >I download the track data from my eMap and load it into Excel to generate altitude
> >vs. distance plots.
>
> Peter,
>
> which software do you use for that? Sorry if you said it before
> and I missed it.
I use G7toWin to download the track from the eMap and then save it as a text file which
I open from MS Excel to generate the plot.
Hans-Georg Michna
>I use G7toWin to download the track from the eMap and then save it as a text file which
>I open from MS Excel to generate the plot.
Pater,
thanks, I have the DOS version, which is also very good,
especially when you travel and use other peoples' computers and
want to have everything on one diskette.
Wasn't aware that G7TO can do that.
jp
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Dale DePriest
world that loved it before. Try reading some of the Magellan posts.
But if you want it you can have it today with a Magellan 315.
Dale
Brent Geery wrote:
>
> I'd like to see an "auto-averaging" feature added. It would start
> averaging position any time you are standing still.
>
> --
> BRENT - The Usenet typo king. :)
>
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of the problem for Magellan users in a post SA world.
Dale